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Wuk Lamat says that Tural's CommonTongue is structurally similar to the language of the Three Great Continents, so what better way to demonstrate that than with ''X'''s iconic CypherLanguage?
Wuk Lamat says that Tural's CommonTongue is structurally similar to the language of the Three Great Continents, so what better way to demonstrate that than with ''X'''s iconic CypherLanguage?
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** I would argue '''Apollon''' would be a better guess, given the various connections with the sun made in-game. It could also tie into how the game encourages the player to play multiple roles, just as how in mythology Apollon had a wide patronage (ex. archery, music, boxing, medicine, crops and herding).
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** Still another possibility is '''Poseidon''', as being the god of earthquakes implies intense strength right away. Furthermore, considering his position as TopGod before the Zeus sect gained ascendance, it's possible that between Nabriales and Pashtarot, one was/is Poseidon and the other Ares. Pashtarot-Poseidon would make sense with the conceit of the Top God being responsible for the most important edicts.
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** As mentioned above, '''Poseidon''' as the pre-Zeus TopGod also fits for responsibility of issuing edicts.
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** As said in Encylopedia Eorzea, Nabriales' office presided over the martial arts, meaning it might have alternatively been '''Ares'''.
*** Alternatively still, he might have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_(mythology) Kratos, personification of strength]].
*** Alternatively still, he might have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_(mythology) Kratos, personification of strength]].
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* Godbrand's recording actually references him having ''two'' children, and Godbert muses for a bit about what became of the seemingly forgotten second Manderville bloodline. It's likely that Julyan is descended from that original cadet branch.
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* '''Nabriales'''. His ability to control the flow of time seems to be unique to him. Thus, it would make sense for him to be '''Aion''', the incarnation of time's inevitability and cycling in Greek thought.
* '''Igeyorhm'''. Her office presided over rhetoric and logic. Thus, epistemology might have been her ultimate sphere, and with it knowledge itself. The closest match seems to be '''Mnemosyne''', goddess of memory and mother of the Mousai.
* '''Emmorololth'''. Her office was medicine. While '''Hygieia''' might come to mind, she was more about cleanliness than medicine proper. One possibility is to match her to a more metaphorical sort of medicine--maintaining the order and function of society, like maintaining the body's blood and lymph flow. This leads to '''Hestia''', goddess of the hearth and civic order.
* '''Halmarut'''. His office was agriculture and plants. The brothers '''Triptolemos''' and '''Demophon''' seem likely candidates, the sons of the rulers who took Demeter in while she was mourning the initial loss of Persephone. Triptolemos essentially became her prophet, while Demophon was the boy she had tried to burn the mortality out of.
* '''Pashtarot'''. His jurisdiction was establishment and enforcement of law, and Halone, the war deity of the Twelve, had once been a candidate for the post. '''Ares''' fits perfectly, both as a warrior like Halone and being associated with protection and Themis in his native Thrakia.
* '''Altima'''. She governed the arts. Mnemosyne seems from here to best match to Igeyorhm, so '''Aphrodite''' in her role as goddess of beauty--seeing art as a way to propagate beauty, and not just visual beauty, through society--is the next fit.
* '''Deudalaphon'''. He's evidently the "Innovator" connected with Arcadion, but finding deities associated specifically with novelty is not an easy thing. It may be better to select a god who's effectively a polymath. This most likely means '''Apollon'''.
* '''Azem'''. While giving them a canon original name is arguably counter to being redefinable by the player, there is an argument to be made for '''Nemesis''', despite popcorn enemies of the same name assisting Thanatos in the Labyrinth of the Ancients. "Nemesis" is in fact a neuter name, and the deity herself presided over the allotment of weal and woe. Azem's travels, then and now, were about ensuring as many as possible knew weal, and certainly the present day also involves dispensing woe to the wicked that the weal might not be threatened.
[[WMG: True names of the remaining Convocation members]]
* '''Nabriales'''. His ability to control the flow of time seems to be unique to him. Thus, it would make sense for him to be '''Aion''', the incarnation of time's inevitability and cycling in Greek thought.
* '''Igeyorhm'''. Her office presided over rhetoric and logic. Thus, epistemology might have been her ultimate sphere, and with it knowledge itself. The closest match seems to be '''Mnemosyne''', goddess of memory and mother of the Mousai.
* '''Emmorololth'''. Her office was medicine. While '''Hygieia''' might come to mind, she was more about cleanliness than medicine proper. One possibility is to match her to a more metaphorical sort of medicine--maintaining the order and function of society, like maintaining the body's blood and lymph flow. This leads to '''Hestia''', goddess of the hearth and civic order.
* '''Halmarut'''. His office was agriculture and plants. The brothers '''Triptolemos''' and '''Demophon''' seem likely candidates, the sons of the rulers who took Demeter in while she was mourning the initial loss of Persephone. Triptolemos essentially became her prophet, while Demophon was the boy she had tried to burn the mortality out of.
* '''Pashtarot'''. His jurisdiction was establishment and enforcement of law, and Halone, the war deity of the Twelve, had once been a candidate for the post. '''Ares''' fits perfectly, both as a warrior like Halone and being associated with protection and Themis in his native Thrakia.
* '''Altima'''. She governed the arts. Mnemosyne seems from here to best match to Igeyorhm, so '''Aphrodite''' in her role as goddess of beauty--seeing art as a way to propagate beauty, and not just visual beauty, through society--is the next fit.
* '''Deudalaphon'''. He's evidently the "Innovator" connected with Arcadion, but finding deities associated specifically with novelty is not an easy thing. It may be better to select a god who's effectively a polymath. This most likely means '''Apollon'''.
* '''Azem'''. While giving them a canon original name is arguably counter to being redefinable by the player, there is an argument to be made for '''Nemesis''', despite popcorn enemies of the same name assisting Thanatos in the Labyrinth of the Ancients. "Nemesis" is in fact a neuter name, and the deity herself presided over the allotment of weal and woe. Azem's travels, then and now, were about ensuring as many as possible knew weal, and certainly the present day also involves dispensing woe to the wicked that the weal might not be threatened.
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*Alternatively, there never was a "literal," El Dorado style City of Gold, and Solution Nine has always been the high-tech city that's it's been. It's just that, over generations, the truth was lost, and eventually the legend of the City of Gold came to be.
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** '''Fully Confirmed''' as of the 2023 Japan Fanfest. Dawntrail's Lifestyle Content will involve travelling to other planets in some way.
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** Apollo, following the sun symbolism.
** Dionysus, because they were a wandering god, and one of the side story associates them with grapes.
*** To add on, Dionysus is known as a genderfluid deity, among his epithets are "twice-born" and "liberator," and in some mythologies is closely related to or even the same deity as Hades. And of course is "mad," walks among men, and most intriguingly is a foreign or traveling god
** Helios, also for the sun symbolism.
** Eos, Goddess of the Dawn, also for the sun symbolism.
** Persephone, because just like the goddess’s fate which dictates her to go to the mortal world to create spring, new lives, and hope for all humans, then return to the underworld, Azem and their reincarnations also travel all worlds, fight back against “winters” to save mankind before returning to the Aether Sea, waiting to be reborn and repeat the cycle again and again.
*** Also, Persephone is the one god that truly has a close relationship with Hades [[spoiler: Emet-Selch]] while being his opposite.
** Alternatively, we'll literally never find out.
** Dionysus, because they were a wandering god, and one of the side story associates them with grapes.
*** To add on, Dionysus is known as a genderfluid deity, among his epithets are "twice-born" and "liberator," and in some mythologies is closely related to or even the same deity as Hades. And of course is "mad," walks among men, and most intriguingly is a foreign or traveling god
** Helios, also for the sun symbolism.
** Eos, Goddess of the Dawn, also for the sun symbolism.
** Persephone, because just like the goddess’s fate which dictates her to go to the mortal world to create spring, new lives, and hope for all humans, then return to the underworld, Azem and their reincarnations also travel all worlds, fight back against “winters” to save mankind before returning to the Aether Sea, waiting to be reborn and repeat the cycle again and again.
*** Also, Persephone is the one god that truly has a close relationship with Hades [[spoiler: Emet-Selch]] while being his opposite.
** Alternatively, we'll literally never find out.
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* Alternatively, we'll literally never find out.
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* Interestingly enough, the poster art for ''Endwalker'' revealed during the 2021 Fanfest is titled 'Scions', which contains artwork of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, along with the mysterious woman from Silvertear Lake (presumed by many to be Venat), and...[[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Zenos]].
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* Interestingly enough, the poster art for ''Endwalker'' revealed during the 2021 Fanfest is titled 'Scions', which contains artwork of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, along with the mysterious woman from Silvertear Lake (presumed by many to be Venat), and...[[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Zenos]]. Zenos.
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Since previous Weapon Battles have had elements of [[Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelion Eva]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Gundam]] it would not be surprising that they keep this trend going and give the ''G-Warrior'' either a combined form a la Anime/GaoGaiGar or a transformable form a la Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross. Also giving the player the chance for either a DropTheHammer attack or a MacrossMissileMassacre would be a lot of fun.
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Since previous Weapon Battles have had elements of [[Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelion Eva]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Gundam]] it would not be surprising that they keep this trend going and give the ''G-Warrior'' either a combined form a la Anime/GaoGaiGar or a transformable form a la Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross. Also giving the player the chance for either a DropTheHammer hammer attack or a MacrossMissileMassacre would be a lot of fun.
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[[WMG: Julyan is the descedant of the Mandervillians.]]
So basically for the Mandervillian bloodline to be over, it would mean each Mandervillian only had one child, and in a world that probably doesn't have contraception or abortion that seems unlikely. So somewhere down the line someone had a child who didn't become heir to the empire or whatever and that bloodline eventually led to Julyan, which also means Hildibrand is still a Mandervillian anyway.
So basically for the Mandervillian bloodline to be over, it would mean each Mandervillian only had one child, and in a world that probably doesn't have contraception or abortion that seems unlikely. So somewhere down the line someone had a child who didn't become heir to the empire or whatever and that bloodline eventually led to Julyan, which also means Hildibrand is still a Mandervillian anyway.
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* '''Jossed''', 'our' Lahabrea is still Hephaistos.
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[[WMG: Solution Nine will involve Ascians again]]
It's been pointed out that the alphabet used in Solution Nine is the Proto-Alphabet seen in the World Unsundered as mentioned in the lorebook. Perhaps this time, there will be no Allagan involvement.
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Since Dawntrail's story seems to be in 2 parts, the first half will deal with Tradition, most likely by dealing with the successor
crisis in Tuliyollal, and the second half will deal with Progress in northern Tural, most likely involving Solution Nine.
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[[WMG: The theme of the expansion will be Tradition VS Progress.]]
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in Tuliyollal, and the second half will deal with Progress in northern Tural, most likely involving Solution Nine.
It will show the good of both but also the danger of focusing solely on one or the other, showing that a balance between the two must be made for people to thrive.
The BigBad of each part will be people who are uncompromising in their beliefs, one believing that [[AppealtoTradition "We've always done it this way, so we don't need to change it!"]] and the other believing that [[AppealtoNovelty "Nothing of the old ways are useful, throw everything away and embrace the new age!"]]
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[[WMG: Solution Nine is[=/=]was the City of Gold.]]
Long ago, someone found the fabled golden city. But rather than reveal the discovery and claim the throne, they exploited the find and built Solution Nine in its place. Gold is a building material in computer circuitry and other electronics, and Solution Nine is as technology advanced as an Allagan city, if not more so. So the city of gold was likely torn down and used in the construction of the new city.
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* Also it's run by an ascian, it's literally in the artwork
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[[WMG: Dawntrail will feature heavy references to FinalFantasyIX in its story.]]
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This all comes down to the name of the hyper futuristic city, Solution 9, which gets its name from one of Zidane's Dyne abilities he can use in Trance. In addition, [[https://twitter.com/lalafell_txt/status/1743827557873500482 one billboard seen in the area trailer]] happens to have Eorzean script that, when translated, reads "Soul Supply". This lines up with how in IX, one of the overarching plots of the game was the assimilation of the planet Gaia by the planet Terra by replacing Gaian souls with Terran ones.
It's possible that Solution 9 the city could have been used for a similar purpose in the past, taking unfortunate Etheirys souls that died in close proximity to it to replace them with other souls, and the final arc of the game will involve going to XIV's version of Terra to stop the main antagonist from restarting the process and killing all life on Etheirys.
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[[WMG: The Arcadion raid series is a GameWithinAGame and it's going to get really meta.]]
The Arcadion is actually just a giant VR MMORPG, and the structure we see in the keyart is the location you go to play the game - the opponents are virtually created raid bosses from said game, and the other players are - quite literally - other players that you group up with to defeat said raid bosses.
The Arcadion is actually just a giant VR MMORPG, and the structure we see in the keyart is the location you go to play the game - the opponents are virtually created raid bosses from said game, and the other players are - quite literally - other players that you group up with to defeat said raid bosses.
