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** If Mari's father was the one putting her to sleep (by medicine, magic or otherwise) her mother's death in her sleep becomes a fridge horror: she may have been put through the same type of abuse but one day the rapist overdid it (maybe gave her too much sleeping medicine) and the woman died in her sleep because of it.
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The man she thinks is her uncle is her biological father, and the man she thinks is her father is her biological uncle. This assumes that "Ana," who wrote the journal in the hidden corridor, is Mari's mother, and "Glenn," to whom the journal is dedicated, is Mari's uncle. He's also the one who gave her the penguin doll, which is found with the journal after visiting the hidden room, which Penn can help you find. Mari's mother had an affair with Gwendel that resulted in Mari, which spurred whatever incident resulted in Mari's imprisonment and her mother's death/coma/disappearance. This likely encouraged the abuse, since Mari isn't his real child, and while Gwendel cares for Mari, he's unable to do anything because of what might happen to Mari if he tries. While the actual Ana and Glenn are not part of the game, per WordofGod, it was also confirmed that the characters associated with those names (Mari's mother and her uncle Gwendel, respectively) will figure into the ongoing plot; with that in mind, the haiku read over the radio may also be related, as its emphasizes syllables corresponding to the journal-related names.

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The man she thinks is her uncle is her biological father, and the man she thinks is her father is her biological uncle. This assumes that "Ana," who wrote the journal in the hidden corridor, is Mari's mother, and "Glenn," to whom the journal is dedicated, is Mari's uncle. He's also the one who gave her the penguin doll, which is found with the journal after visiting the hidden room, which Penn can help you find. Mari's mother had an affair with Gwendel that resulted in Mari, which spurred whatever incident resulted in Mari's imprisonment and her mother's death/coma/disappearance. This likely encouraged the abuse, since Mari isn't his real child, and while Gwendel cares for Mari, he's unable to do anything because of what might happen to Mari if he tries. While the actual Ana and Glenn are not part of the game, per WordofGod, WordOfGod, it was also confirmed that the characters associated with those names (Mari's mother and her uncle Gwendel, respectively) will figure into the ongoing plot; with that in mind, the haiku read over the radio may also be related, as its emphasizes syllables corresponding to the journal-related names.

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The characters in the game might be mental recreations of people Mari knows in real life. Bunnilda is a maid and knows quite a bit about Greek history, so she represents the maid that Mari knows. Penn Guindel is obviously a representation of [[spoiler: Mari’s uncle Gwendel]], considering that he’s a scholar/book keeper and [[spoiler: Gwendel allegedly gave her the penguin doll in her room]]. As for Foxanne and Boaris, the theory can really go two ways with Foxanne being Mari’s tutor and Boaris representing an unknown sixth party (possibly [[spoiler: the good side of Mari’s father]]) or [[spoiler: Foxanne being Mari’s mother, whether as a dream version of her mother’s soul or a representation of Mari’s mom, and Boaris being the tutor]]. Boaris is the only character that calls Mary “sweetheart,” which is admittedly odd if [[spoiler: he were the tutor]], but Boaris’ reaction to being told “no” by Mary makes sense if you think about [[spoiler: “Boaris” being told “no” by a student when he’s asking for her to give him her work]] and he’s the only character [[spoiler: to not get a monochrome body after Mary gives him her lily petal]]. [[spoiler: Bunnilda’s body continually falls from the ceiling, Penn Guindel’s body appears to lack a head, and Foxanne is almost slumped over while at the bar, which fits if the maid committed suicide and Mari’s uncle and mother were killed, but Boaris doesn’t get a body and instead whispers things to Mary, which would fit Mari’s tutor not knowing Mari well enough to know what Mari’s father is doing to her or else him being paid off to not go to the police]]. And then [[spoiler: the shadow creature]] is obviously [[spoiler: Mari’s father, at the minimum the bad side of him]].

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The characters in the game might be mental recreations of people Mari knows in real life. Bunnilda is a maid and knows quite a bit about Greek history, so she represents the maid that Mari knows. Penn Guindel is obviously a representation of [[spoiler: Mari’s uncle Gwendel]], considering that he’s a scholar/book keeper and [[spoiler: Gwendel allegedly gave her the penguin doll in her room]]. As for Foxanne and Boaris, the theory can really go two ways with Foxanne being Mari’s tutor and Boaris representing an unknown sixth party (possibly [[spoiler: the good side of Mari’s father]]) or [[spoiler: Foxanne being Mari’s mother, whether as a dream version of her mother’s soul or a representation of Mari’s mom, and Boaris being the tutor]]. Boaris is the only character that calls Mary “sweetheart,” which is admittedly odd if [[spoiler: he were the tutor]], but Boaris’ reaction to being told “no” by Mary makes sense if you think about [[spoiler: “Boaris” being told “no” by a student when he’s asking for her to give him her work]] and he’s the only character [[spoiler: to not get a monochrome body after Mary gives him her lily petal]]. [[spoiler: Bunnilda’s body continually falls from the ceiling, Penn Guindel’s body appears to lack a head, and Foxanne is almost slumped over while at the bar, which fits if the maid committed suicide and Mari’s uncle and mother were killed, but Boaris doesn’t get a body and instead whispers things to Mary, which would fit Mari’s tutor not knowing Mari well enough to know what Mari’s father is doing to her or else him being paid off to not go to the police]]. And then [[spoiler: the shadow creature]] is obviously [[spoiler: Mari’s father, at the minimum the bad side of him]].him]].
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Perhaps they're the 'loss of innocence' of her mother dying and her father's original portrayal, but that brings her father 'betraying' her twice via Boaris into question... Maybe the second loss is when Mary/Mari realizes that she isn't able to defy him or escape him, and the first was realizing in the first place the he was a bad father/person? Then the other three optional petals is whether or not she realizes that her three other trusted adults (Maid, Uncle, Tutor) aren't actually helping her have a good (abuse-less) life either, even if they didn't actively help her father. I definitely think the petals are about realization rather than actual experience, since the animals still glitch whether you lose that innocence or not and if you do the best petal-wise you get the worst ending (because her relative innocence makes the father's abuse more traumatizing since it's unexpected to her, rather than being emotionally broken and used to it by now; just like the player expects a worse result if they see the nightmare faces you get when losing petals, and probably also tried to defy Boaris and got his nightmare face and had to resign themselves to just giving him the petal to get to the end, but if they end without seeing that they're only a little creeped out and so are probably startled like Mary probably is when that ending happens).

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Perhaps they're the 'loss of innocence' of her mother dying and her father's original portrayal, but that brings her father 'betraying' her twice via Boaris into question... Maybe the second loss is when Mary/Mari realizes that she isn't able to defy him or escape him, and the first was realizing in the first place the he was a bad father/person? Then the other three optional petals is whether or not she realizes that her three other trusted adults (Maid, Uncle, Tutor) aren't actually helping her have a good (abuse-less) life either, even if they didn't actively help her father. I definitely think the petals are about realization rather than actual experience, since the animals still glitch whether you lose that innocence or not and if you do the best petal-wise you get the worst ending (because her relative innocence makes the father's abuse more traumatizing since it's unexpected to her, rather than being emotionally broken and used to it by now; just like the player expects a worse result if they see the nightmare faces you get when losing petals, and probably also tried to defy Boaris and got his nightmare face and had to resign themselves to just giving him the petal to get to the end, but if they end without seeing that they're only a little creeped out and so are probably startled like Mary probably is when that ending happens).happens).

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The characters in the game might be mental recreations of people Mari knows in real life. Bunnilda is a maid and knows quite a bit about Greek history, so she represents the maid that Mari knows. Penn Guindel is obviously a representation of [[spoiler: Mari’s uncle Gwendel]], considering that he’s a scholar/book keeper and [[spoiler: Gwendel allegedly gave her the penguin doll in her room]]. As for Foxanne and Boaris, the theory can really go two ways with Foxanne being Mari’s tutor and Boaris representing an unknown sixth party (possibly [[spoiler: the good side of Mari’s father]]) or [[spoiler: Foxanne being Mari’s mother, whether as a dream version of her mother’s soul or a representation of Mari’s mom, and Boaris being the tutor]]. Boaris is the only character that calls Mary “sweetheart,” which is admittedly odd if [[spoiler: he were the tutor]], but Boaris’ reaction to being told “no” by Mary makes sense if you think about [[spoiler: “Boaris” being told “no” by a student when he’s asking for her to give him her work]] and he’s the only character [[spoiler: to not get a monochrome body after Mary gives him her lily petal]]. [[spoiler: Bunnilda’s body continually falls from the ceiling, Penn Guindel’s body appears to lack a head, and Foxanne is almost slumped over while at the bar, which fits if the maid committed suicide and Mari’s uncle and mother were killed, but Boaris doesn’t get a body and instead whispers things to Mary, which would fit Mari’s tutor not knowing Mari well enough to know what Mari’s father is doing to her or else him being paid off to not go to the police]]. And then [[spoiler: the shadow creature]] is obviously [[spoiler: Mari’s father, at the minimum the bad side of him]].
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** It might also represent Mary confronting the truth about her life. She uses her dreams to escape her imprisonment and ends up in a shiny, pretty pink world full of nice friends that is much more welcoming and friendly than her real life, but even Radio Nightnight only mentions that in the real world, she's lonely and everything is drab, not [[spoiler: how her father treats her.]] Exploring the dream will eventually force her to face some really ugly reality, and as expressions of her subconscious, her friends know what she's going to find down there. The girls can't fathom why she'd want to do that at all, but Penn, a supportive-but-ineffective adult figure, tells her to be brave because there's nothing he can do to protect her.
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The ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated/giving birth while still Asleep; Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and she interacts real people, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" whenever possible so she won't resist him. It could be done medically or magically, and it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going ''further'' into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio mentions that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing. It also explains why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds like he was involved with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary disobeys: She's not just rebelling, she's waking up, and could fight back or escape. Her father might have convinced Mary that the dream was a "reward" for obeying him: If she does what he says, she can spend her time in a pleasant dream instead of dealing with what's really happening.

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The ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated/giving birth while still Asleep; Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and she interacts with real people, but I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" whenever possible so she won't resist him. It could be done medically or magically, and it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going ''further'' into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio mentions that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing. It also explains why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds like he was involved with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary disobeys: She's not just rebelling, she's waking up, and could fight back or escape. Her father might have convinced Mary that the dream was a "reward" for obeying him: If she does what he says, she can spend her time in a pleasant dream instead of dealing with what's really happening.

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It's a prett simple one. The character in the dreamworld who represents her uncle is named Penn Guindell. In the Darkworld, you can find a journal dedicated to "Glenn" underneath a stuffed toy penguin. Swapping the "P" and "G" in Penn's name and correcting for the pun gives you Glenn Pindel.

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It's a prett pretty simple one. The character in the dreamworld who represents her uncle is named Penn Guindell. In the Darkworld, you can find a journal dedicated to "Glenn" underneath a stuffed toy penguin. Swapping the "P" and "G" in Penn's name and correcting for the pun gives you Glenn Pindel.Pindel.

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Perhaps they're the 'loss of innocence' of her mother dying and her father's original portrayal, but that brings her father 'betraying' her twice via Boaris into question... Maybe the second loss is when Mary/Mari realizes that she isn't able to defy him or escape him, and the first was realizing in the first place the he was a bad father/person? Then the other three optional petals is whether or not she realizes that her three other trusted adults (Maid, Uncle, Tutor) aren't actually helping her have a good (abuse-less) life either, even if they didn't actively help her father. I definitely think the petals are about realization rather than actual experience, since the animals still glitch whether you lose that innocence or not and if you do the best petal-wise you get the worst ending (because her relative innocence makes the father's abuse more traumatizing since it's unexpected to her, rather than being emotionally broken and used to it by now; just like the player expects a worse result if they see the nightmare faces you get when losing petals, and probably also tried to defy Boaris and got his nightmare face and had to resign themselves to just giving him the petal to get to the end, but if they end without seeing that they're only a little creeped out and so are probably startled like Mary probably is when that ending happens).
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It's a prett simple one. The character in the dreamworld who represents her uncle is named Penn Guindell. In the Darkworld, you can find a journal dedicated to "Glenn" underneath a stuffed toy penguin. Swapping the "P" and "G" in Penn's name and correcting for the pun gives you Glenn Pindel.
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The man she thinks is her uncle is her biological father, and the man she thinks is her father is her biological uncle. This assumes that "Ana," who wrote the journal in the hidden corridor, is Mari's mother, and Gwendel/Glenn, to whom the journal is dedicated, is Mari's uncle. He's also the one who gave her the penguin doll, which is found with the journal after visiting the hidden room, which Penn can help you find. Mari's mother had an affair with Gwendel that resulted in Mari, which spurred whatever incident resulted in Mari's imprisonment and her mother's death/coma/disappearance. This likely encouraged the abuse, since Mari isn't his real child, and while Gwendel cares for Mari, he's unable to do anything because of what might happen to Mari if he tries.

[[WMG:Mary's father is practicing WifeHusbandry.]
In the worst possible way, of course. If Mari really isn't his daughter, he might be trying to mold her into the "faithful" wife her mother wasn't; even if it's not, he might be trying to produce an even more powerful dreamer than Mari, which may well have been his goal in marrying her mother to begin with. Since Mari's mother is out of the picture...

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The man she thinks is her uncle is her biological father, and the man she thinks is her father is her biological uncle. This assumes that "Ana," who wrote the journal in the hidden corridor, is Mari's mother, and Gwendel/Glenn, "Glenn," to whom the journal is dedicated, is Mari's uncle. He's also the one who gave her the penguin doll, which is found with the journal after visiting the hidden room, which Penn can help you find. Mari's mother had an affair with Gwendel that resulted in Mari, which spurred whatever incident resulted in Mari's imprisonment and her mother's death/coma/disappearance. This likely encouraged the abuse, since Mari isn't his real child, and while Gwendel cares for Mari, he's unable to do anything because of what might happen to Mari if he tries.

tries. While the actual Ana and Glenn are not part of the game, per WordofGod, it was also confirmed that the characters associated with those names (Mari's mother and her uncle Gwendel, respectively) will figure into the ongoing plot; with that in mind, the haiku read over the radio may also be related, as its emphasizes syllables corresponding to the journal-related names.

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In the worst possible way, of course.way. If Mari really isn't his daughter, he might be trying to mold her into the "faithful" wife her mother wasn't; even if it's not, he might be trying to produce an even more powerful dreamer than Mari, which may well have been his goal in marrying her mother to begin with. Since Mari's mother is out of the picture...picture...

[[WMG:accha is somehow involved.]
Yes, the creator of ''Dreaming Mary.'' She seems friendly, sweet, and helpful, even cutesy, given the emojis on the official tumblr; yet, much like her characters, she hints at a darker side, creating games with innocuous surfaces and disturbing depths, and admitting that she has an affinity for "dark and twisted things." She's also present in the actual game, the chirpy voice on the radio who dispenses censored versions of Mari's life (truthful, but spun to omit the dark truth) and warnings intended to keep the player/Mary following the path of the dream. The characters in Mary's dream present themselves as fun, friendly, and helpful, yet hide a darker secret; maybe don't challenge the creator to any games, just to be safe?

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The ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated/giving birth while still Asleep; Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" so she wouldn't resist hiM. It could be done medically or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going FURTHER into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It also explains why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds more like he had more to do with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper': She's not just rebelling, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape. Her father might even have convinced Mary that it was some kind of reward for obeying him: If she does what he says (ex. collect the Seeds, give him a petal), she can spend her time in a pleasant dream instead of having to deal with what's really happening.

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The ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated/giving birth while still Asleep; Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, real people, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" whenever possible so she wouldn't won't resist hiM. him. It could be done medically or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but and it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going FURTHER ''further'' into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention mentions that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. undergoing. It also explains why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds more like he had more to do was involved with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper': disobeys: She's not just rebelling, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to and could fight back or escape. Her father might even have convinced Mary that it the dream was some kind of reward a "reward" for obeying him: If she does what he says (ex. collect the Seeds, give him a petal), says, she can spend her time in a pleasant dream instead of having to deal dealing with what's really happening.
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WordOfGod says that everyone in Mari's world has some kind of power, so maybe her father's is being able to alter the worlds of others, or something along those lines. He probably made the world so saccharine, believing that's what little girls like (and explaining Boaris' gushing speech), and hid the fourth door in the hall as well as "programmed" the radio to deny that door's existence, among all the other warnings meant to keep Mary in the dream. He can't make dream-stuff real, though, and it's more static than Mary's power, which is why it starts breaking down when she starts pushing; the Dark World aspects are what Mari knows to be true, altering the world as she "remembers" them.



The Red Fruit from Bunnilda's statue game is probably a pomegranate, judging by the icon and the Greek mythology that links the statues with the pomegranate. In the myth, eating the pomegranate's seeds made it impossible for Persephone to ever truly escape Hades; by collecting the Red Seeds and using them as intended, to open the door and follow Boaris further into the dream, Mary is making it impossible to escape her current circumstances, either through giving up (consciously or otherwise) or simply through ignorance, as Persephone ate the pomegranate seeds without knowing what that would mean. That would explain why Penn is particularly reluctant to give Mary the Seed (and why Foxanne and Bunnilda are so surprised that Mary would want to collect/use the Seeds), as well as why Penn encourages Mary to 'be brave' after she wins his: He's hoping that she won't actually go through with it.

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The Red Fruit from Bunnilda's statue game is probably a pomegranate, judging by the icon and the Greek mythology myth that links the statues with the pomegranate. In the myth, eating Eating the pomegranate's seeds made it impossible for Persephone to ever truly escape Hades; by collecting the Red Seeds and using them as intended, to open the door and follow Boaris further into the dream, Mary is making it impossible to escape her current circumstances, either through giving up (consciously or otherwise) or simply through ignorance, as Persephone ate the pomegranate seeds without knowing what that would mean. it meant. That would explain why Penn is particularly reluctant to give Mary the Seed (and why Foxanne and Bunnilda are so surprised that Mary would want to collect/use the Seeds), as well as why Penn encourages Mary to 'be brave' after she wins his: brave': He's hoping that she won't actually go through with it.



That is, the flower whose petals serve as a "lifebar" is not a lily, despite lilies being referenced, but a narcissus. It resembles such a flower in the portrait found in the starting room, and when you pick up the flower in the vase, it gives you four petals, since the flower's already lost two; a narcissus has six petals altogether, like a lily. The flowers depicted during the Good End credits appear to be narcissus, and the flower is related to the Greek myths of the statues in Bunnilda's room: Aphrodite (who plays a role in the statues' Adonis legend) was said to have worn the flowers, and Hades used a field of narcissus to lure Persephone (also part of the legend) away from her mother so he could kidnap her. Because of this, the narcissus became associated with death and was planted around tombs; this is probably symbolic, since its appearance during the credits coincides with what could be Mari running away from her father's mansion.

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That is, the The flower whose petals serve as a "lifebar" is not a lily, despite lilies being referenced, but a narcissus. It resembles such a flower in the portrait found in the starting room, and when you pick up get the flower in from the vase, it gives you four petals, since the flower's already lost two; a narcissus has six petals altogether, petals, like a lily. The flowers depicted during the Good End credits appear to be narcissus, and the flower which is related to the Greek myths of the statues in Bunnilda's room: Aphrodite (who plays a role in the statues' Adonis legend) was said to have worn the flowers, and Hades used a field of narcissus to lure Persephone (also part of the legend) away from her mother so he could kidnap her. Because of this, the narcissus became associated with death and was planted around tombs; this is probably symbolic, since its appearance during the credits coincides with what could be Mari running away from her father's fleeing the mansion.



It's heavily implied that the "friends" from Mary's dream represent the people she knows in the real world, with Bunnilda, Foxanne, and Penn based on Mari's maid, tutor, and uncle. When first exploring the Dark World, you find what are presumably the real-world representations: A taxidermy rabbit, a penguin doll, and a fox pelt. After receiving their Red Seeds, the characters are replaced with "glitch" art of two women and a man in various states of death: The woman replacing Bunnilda looks like she's falling from the roof, the man replacing Penn is decapitated, and the woman replacing Foxanne appears to have had her eyes gouged. Returning to the corridor, the rabbit, penguin, and fox items are ripped apart. Boaris/the shadowy chaser represents Mari's father, but the only change Boaris undergoes is if Mary defies him, dropping his friendly facade and becoming more like the chaser.

Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.

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It's heavily implied that the "friends" from Mary's dream represent the people she knows in the real world, with Bunnilda, Foxanne, and Penn based on Mari's maid, tutor, and uncle. When first exploring the Dark World, you find what are presumably the their real-world representations: A taxidermy rabbit, a penguin doll, and a fox pelt. After receiving their the Red Seeds, the characters are replaced with "glitch" art of two women and a man in various states of death: man: The woman replacing Bunnilda looks like she's falling from the roof, the man replacing Penn is decapitated, and the woman replacing Foxanne appears to have had her eyes gouged. Returning to In the corridor, the rabbit, penguin, and fox items are ripped apart. Boaris/the shadowy chaser Boaris/The Shadow represents Mari's father, but the only change Boaris undergoes is if Mary defies him, dropping his friendly facade and becoming more like the chaser.

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Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping locking her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting sending her go to school - and it's possible that he would might kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. could interfere. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated led to an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in leading to his death.
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That is, the flower whose petals serve as a "lifebar" is not a lily, despite lilies being referenced, but a narcissus. It resembles such a flower in the portrait found in the starting room, and when you pick up the flower in the vase, it gives you four petals, since the flower's already lost two; a narcissus has six petals altogether, like a lily. The flowers depicted during the Good End credits appear to be narcissus, and the flower is related to the Greek myths of the statues in Bunnilda's room: Aphrodite (who plays a role in the statues' Adonis legend) was said to have worn the flowers, and Hades used a field of narcissus to lure Persephone (also part of the legend) away from her mother so he could kidnap her. Because of this, the narcissus became associated with death and was planted around tombs; this is probably symbolic, since its appearance during the credits coincides with what could be Mari running away from her father's mansion.
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Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.

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Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.death.

[[WMG:Mari is actually Gwendel's daughter.]]
The man she thinks is her uncle is her biological father, and the man she thinks is her father is her biological uncle. This assumes that "Ana," who wrote the journal in the hidden corridor, is Mari's mother, and Gwendel/Glenn, to whom the journal is dedicated, is Mari's uncle. He's also the one who gave her the penguin doll, which is found with the journal after visiting the hidden room, which Penn can help you find. Mari's mother had an affair with Gwendel that resulted in Mari, which spurred whatever incident resulted in Mari's imprisonment and her mother's death/coma/disappearance. This likely encouraged the abuse, since Mari isn't his real child, and while Gwendel cares for Mari, he's unable to do anything because of what might happen to Mari if he tries.
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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't resist his abuse. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It also explaina why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds more like he, not Mary/Mari, had more to do with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper': She's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.

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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving impregnated/giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Asleep; Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't resist his abuse. hiM. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" FURTHER into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It also explaina explains why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds more like he, not Mary/Mari, he had more to do with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper': She's not just rebelling against him/her father, rebelling, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.
escape. Her father might even have convinced Mary that it was some kind of reward for obeying him: If she does what he says (ex. collect the Seeds, give him a petal), she can spend her time in a pleasant dream instead of having to deal with what's really happening.
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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't resist his abuse. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It would also explain why Boaris gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper' with him; she's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.

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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't resist his abuse. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It would also explain explaina why Boaris is so concerned with Mary enjoying the dream, how he says that it was made 'especially for her' (which sounds more like he, not Mary/Mari, had more to do with its creation), and why he gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper' with him; she's deeper': She's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.
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The Red Fruit from Bunnhilda's statue game is probably a pomegranate, judging by the icon and the Greek mythology that links the statues with the pomegranate. In the myth, eating the pomegranate's seeds made it impossible for Persephone to ever truly escape Hades; by collecting the Red Seeds and using them as intended, to open the door and follow Boaris further into the dream, Mary is making it impossible to escape her current circumstances, either through giving up (consciously or otherwise) or simply through ignorance, as Persophone ate the pomegranate seeds without knowing what that would mean. That would explain why Penn is particularly reluctant to give Mary the Seed (and why Foxanne and Bunnhilda are so surprised that Mary would want to collect/use the Seeds), as well as why Penn encourages Mary to 'be brave' after she wins his: He's hoping that she won't actually go through with it.

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The Red Fruit from Bunnhilda's Bunnilda's statue game is probably a pomegranate, judging by the icon and the Greek mythology that links the statues with the pomegranate. In the myth, eating the pomegranate's seeds made it impossible for Persephone to ever truly escape Hades; by collecting the Red Seeds and using them as intended, to open the door and follow Boaris further into the dream, Mary is making it impossible to escape her current circumstances, either through giving up (consciously or otherwise) or simply through ignorance, as Persophone Persephone ate the pomegranate seeds without knowing what that would mean. That would explain why Penn is particularly reluctant to give Mary the Seed (and why Foxanne and Bunnhilda Bunnilda are so surprised that Mary would want to collect/use the Seeds), as well as why Penn encourages Mary to 'be brave' after she wins his: He's hoping that she won't actually go through with it.



It's heavily implied that the "friends" from Mary's dream represent the people she knows in the real world, with Bunnhilda, Foxanne, and Penn based on Mari's maid, tutor, and uncle. When first exploring the Dark World, you find what are presumably the real-world representations: A taxidermy rabbit, a penguin doll, and a fox pelt. After receiving their Red Seeds, the characters are replaced with "glitch" art of two women and a man in various states of death: The woman replacing Bunnhilda looks like she's falling from the roof, the man replacing Penn is decapitated, and the woman replacing Foxanne appears to have had her eyes gouged. Returning to the corridor, the rabbit, penguin, and fox items are ripped apart. Boaris/the shadowy chaser represents Mari's father, but the only change Boaris undergoes is if Mary defies him, dropping his friendly facade and becoming more like the chaser.

Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.

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It's heavily implied that the "friends" from Mary's dream represent the people she knows in the real world, with Bunnhilda, Bunnilda, Foxanne, and Penn based on Mari's maid, tutor, and uncle. When first exploring the Dark World, you find what are presumably the real-world representations: A taxidermy rabbit, a penguin doll, and a fox pelt. After receiving their Red Seeds, the characters are replaced with "glitch" art of two women and a man in various states of death: The woman replacing Bunnhilda Bunnilda looks like she's falling from the roof, the man replacing Penn is decapitated, and the woman replacing Foxanne appears to have had her eyes gouged. Returning to the corridor, the rabbit, penguin, and fox items are ripped apart. Boaris/the shadowy chaser represents Mari's father, but the only change Boaris undergoes is if Mary defies him, dropping his friendly facade and becoming more like the chaser.

Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.

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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't put up a fight. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It would also explain why Boaris gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper' with him; she's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.

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The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't put up a fight.resist his abuse. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It would also explain why Boaris gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper' with him; she's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.


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[[WMG:The Maid, the Tutor, and the Uncle are all dead.]]
It's heavily implied that the "friends" from Mary's dream represent the people she knows in the real world, with Bunnhilda, Foxanne, and Penn based on Mari's maid, tutor, and uncle. When first exploring the Dark World, you find what are presumably the real-world representations: A taxidermy rabbit, a penguin doll, and a fox pelt. After receiving their Red Seeds, the characters are replaced with "glitch" art of two women and a man in various states of death: The woman replacing Bunnhilda looks like she's falling from the roof, the man replacing Penn is decapitated, and the woman replacing Foxanne appears to have had her eyes gouged. Returning to the corridor, the rabbit, penguin, and fox items are ripped apart. Boaris/the shadowy chaser represents Mari's father, but the only change Boaris undergoes is if Mary defies him, dropping his friendly facade and becoming more like the chaser.

Mari's father seems determined to keep his daughter as isolated as possible - living in the middle of nowhere, keeping her in her room, getting her a tutor instead of letting her go to school - and it's possible that he would kill others if he thought they might interfere with him. The tutor might have had suspicions raised by their behaviors, or seen evidence of the abuse, explaining her ruined eyes; the maid probably lived in the house and was curious about the rarely-seen girl, and may have witnessed something that necessitated an "accidental" fall. Mari's uncle may have suspected abuse, or at least that something was going on, and might even have tried to gain custody of his niece, resulting in his death.
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[[WMG:The dream isn't Mari's way of escaping, it's her father's way of keeping her trapped.]]
The version of ''Sleeping Beauty'' in Mary's dream records the princess being impregnated and giving birth while still in her magical sleep; while we know that Mari probably isn't in a coma, since the radio mentions time in the gardens and we know that she interacts with her tutor, the maid, and her uncle, I wouldn't put it past Mari's father to keep her "dreaming" as often as possible, so she wouldn't put up a fight. It could be done medically (ex. drugs) or magically, since it's implied that some form of magic exists in Mari's "real world," but it would explain why Boaris is so insistent on Mari going "deeper" into the dream: The deeper the dream, the more deeply Mari sleeps, the more docile she is. The radio does mention that Mary likes "longer dreams" best, but that's probably because deeper dreams means she's less aware of the abuse she's undergoing in the waking world. It would also explain why Boaris gets angry when Mary refuses to 'dream deeper' with him; she's not just rebelling against him/her father, she's literally waking up, which might allow her to fight back or escape.

[[WMG:The Red Seeds are pomegranate seeds.]]
The Red Fruit from Bunnhilda's statue game is probably a pomegranate, judging by the icon and the Greek mythology that links the statues with the pomegranate. In the myth, eating the pomegranate's seeds made it impossible for Persephone to ever truly escape Hades; by collecting the Red Seeds and using them as intended, to open the door and follow Boaris further into the dream, Mary is making it impossible to escape her current circumstances, either through giving up (consciously or otherwise) or simply through ignorance, as Persophone ate the pomegranate seeds without knowing what that would mean. That would explain why Penn is particularly reluctant to give Mary the Seed (and why Foxanne and Bunnhilda are so surprised that Mary would want to collect/use the Seeds), as well as why Penn encourages Mary to 'be brave' after she wins his: He's hoping that she won't actually go through with it.

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