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* Sandy Mitchell didn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. However, the eleventh novel "Vainglorious" (published in August 2023), [[spoiler:the author accepts the current interpretation of the Necrons, and Cain does team up with a Necron lord, but only to deceive and defeat him.]]
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* Sandy Mitchell didn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. However, the eleventh novel "Vainglorious" (published in August 2023), [[spoiler:the author accepts [[spoiler:accepts the current interpretation of the Necrons, and Cain does team up with a Necron lord, but only to deceive and defeat him.]]
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* Sandy Mitchell didn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. However, the eleventh novel "Vainglorious" (published in August 2023), [[the author accepts the current interpretation of the Necrons, and Cain does team up with a Necron lord, but only to deceive and defeat him.]]
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* Sandy Mitchell didn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. However, the eleventh novel "Vainglorious" (published in August 2023), [[the [[spoiler:the author accepts the current interpretation of the Necrons, and Cain does team up with a Necron lord, but only to deceive and defeat him.]]
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* Highly unlikely as Sandy Mitchell doesn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. Hopefully he ''keeps'' it that way.
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* Highly unlikely as Sandy Mitchell doesn't didn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. Hopefully he ''keeps'' it that way.
However, the eleventh novel "Vainglorious" (published in August 2023), [[the author accepts the current interpretation of the Necrons, and Cain does team up with a Necron lord, but only to deceive and defeat him.]]
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[[WMG:Ciaphas Cain is the reincarnation of [[Franchise/MetalGear Big Boss]].]]
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[[WMG:Ciaphas Cain is the reincarnation of [[Franchise/MetalGear [[VideoGame/MetalGear Big Boss]].]]
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* Possibly undermined as Cain has noted on several occasions where his sense of smell was impaired (either by wearing a gas mask or the cold), Jurgen snuck up on him due to the lack of smell, implying it may be a purely mundane case of body odour.
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[[WMG:Cain's death was faked by Trazyn]]
I mean how could Trazyn pass up such a prize for Solemance. Put him in the display alongside the Shadowlight. Make it a display of Cain's 2nd last stand
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Consider: LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya is arrogant, short-tempered, very controlling, and capable of altering reality to suit her will. Gunner Jurgen is selfless, laid-back, willing to take orders without question, and capable of nullifying Warp powers (i.e. those that would allow one to alter reality).
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Consider: LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya is arrogant, short-tempered, very controlling, and capable of altering reality to suit her will. Gunner Jurgen is selfless, laid-back, willing to take orders without question, and capable of nullifying Warp powers (i.e. those that would allow one to alter reality).
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* He's certainly got a behavioral resemblance to [[Literature/TheBible Gideon]].
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* He's certainly got a behavioral resemblance to [[Literature/TheBible [[Literature/BookOfJudges Gideon]].
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*** About Yarrick... I'm sorry to say your info is wrong as of 2023.
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** Go read ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'', ''Webcomic/HowIBecameYours'', or just about any Literature/{{Twilight}} fic, for that matter. Better yet, '''''DON'T.''''' The creepiest FanDumb writers ''don't'' immediately write lemons about screwing their favorite characters -- or if they do, they don't immediately ''post'' them. The earlier books are just her {{Squee}}ing about him, before she worked up the courage to write herself in.
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** Go read ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'', ''FanFic/EmbersVathara}}'', ''Webcomic/HowIBecameYours'', or just about any Literature/{{Twilight}} fic, for that matter. Better yet, '''''DON'T.''''' The creepiest FanDumb writers ''don't'' immediately write lemons about screwing their favorite characters -- or if they do, they don't immediately ''post'' them. The earlier books are just her {{Squee}}ing about him, before she worked up the courage to write herself in.
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** Nah hes the choosen one of Yzeentch if not his mortal Avatar to spread hope and progress to the imperium that is trying to stay dark and miserable, also to make the God Emperor look bad.
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* Highly unlikely as Sandy Mitchell doesn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. Hopefully he ''keeps'' it that way.
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* Highly unlikely as Sandy Mitchell doesn't seem too willing to buy into the retooling of the Necrons as "[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Tomb Kings]] [[RecycledInSpace [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]", preferring to keep them as incomprehensible, inhuman and absolutely terrifying abominations that Cain fears above all other things. Hopefully he ''keeps'' it that way.
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* Also confirmed from Bequin's POV in ''Literature/RavenorVsEisenhorn''
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* Also confirmed from [[Literature/{{Bequin}} Bequin's POV in ''Literature/RavenorVsEisenhorn''
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[[WMG: In-universe, the ShowWithinAShow ''[[Comics/JudgeDredd Arbitor Foreboding]]'''s titular character is too soft.]]
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[[WMG: In-universe, the ShowWithinAShow ''[[Comics/JudgeDredd ''[[ComicBook/JudgeDredd Arbitor Foreboding]]'''s titular character is too soft.]]
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[[WMG:Cain's (real) memoirs are meant to record the names and actions of everyone he met]]
Cain sometimes thinks about all the people he outlived and that his memories will be the only evidence of their existence, so he preserved their memory by writing about them. Whether it's accessible to the general public doesn't matter as long as it's there. He's apparently annoyed that Jurgen was left out of ''Cain's Heroes'', the in-universe drama about ''Death or Glory'', and Amberley snarks about how Sulla's memoirs claim that the noble sacrifices will not be forgotten despite Sulla not including names. Sulla not remembering after hundreds of years is understandable, and Cain remembering is incredible. \\
Adding on to the theory that his memoirs are a sort of confessional, it's a way to acknowledge the people whose help he couldn't have done without.
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** But their magic isn't Warp-based. However, [[Discworld/UnseenAcademicals with Orks running around these days, it's plausible.]]
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** But their magic isn't Warp-based. However, [[Discworld/UnseenAcademicals [[Literature/UnseenAcademicals with Orks running around these days, it's plausible.]]
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* Technically canon, except that it's not heretical. Amberly mentions a sect that worships Cain as prophet of the Emperor. Note that she specifically calls them a sect, not a group of heretics or a cult. Meaning that they've been endorsed by the Ecclesiarchy as a legitimate, and legal, form of worship.
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* He encounters one in "Choose Your Enemies", though he doesn't hear the name Khaine, only the description of it as an Avatar. They are also allies in a fight against a Slaaneshi daemon rather than enemies.
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[[WMG: Cain is the reincarnation of HoratioHornblower]]
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[[WMG: Cain is the reincarnation of HoratioHornblower]]Literature/HoratioHornblower]]
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** One of Vail's footnotes in ''Choose Your Enemies'' consists of Vail herself wondering if Sulla had a crush on Cain.
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* Too early to say about "trilogy", but ''Choose Your Enemies'' starts off with Cain and the 597th battling Eldar pirates. (And resolves the cliffhanger from "Hidden Depths" as well, if not the way I suggested above.)
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** The timeline actually fits quite well - the Sabbat worlds campaign took place in the 8th century of the 41st, and probably ended somewhere about 780.M41. Cain was known to be over two centuries old when recalled to fight in the Thirteenth Black Crusade, which is 999.M41 and onwards. This means he was born somewhere around the late 700s, so it does fit.
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* This would be ''[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees horrible]]''.
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* This would be ''[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees ''[[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees horrible]]''.
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** Not certain, since Metternich is described to have [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy blue skin and red eyes]], so maybe a combination of {{Literature/Flashman}} and a certain [[StarWars Grand Admiral?]]
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** Not certain, since Metternich is described to have [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy blue skin and red eyes]], so maybe a combination of {{Literature/Flashman}} and a certain [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Grand Admiral?]]
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[[WMG: In-universe, the ShowWithinAShow ''[[Comics/JudgeDredd Arbitor Foreboding]]'''s titular character is too soft.]]
He's exactly like the Judge Dredd in our fiction, although more violent because he's following Imperium Law. But his TragicFlaw is that when Imperium Law does allow mercy, he'll take it. The Inquisition makes sure that Arbitor Foreboding is always a lawful Good Guy by Imperium Standards. But if he doesn't immediately exterminate even the appearance of heresy but incarcerates it, or banishes it, the plot will show how Chaos seeps in and makes the situation worse. Arbitor Foreboding's CharacterDevelopment is learning that the Law is best when it follows the Emperor absolutely and should be bent or broken until it does.
* This is all a careful PropagandaPiece by the Inquisition to discourage being "reasonable."
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* And yes, he would have had to oversee that fight and been helping out on Cadia at the same time. He is an Overlord, though so he would presumably have competent minions he could entrust with what amounted to a minor out-of-the-way skirmish.
