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* We will finally be able to use our old favorite Vault Hunters again, minus Roland, Nisha, Wilhelm, and Jack's Body Double, who have not survived past the activation of the Vault Map; and we get them with much more OOMPH! Not only has Lilith gained more power, Mordecai a new Bloodwing, and Brick now possessing a big-ass hammer, the new Vault Hunters of Borderlands2 have gained experience, Athena now has access to what remains of DAHL, Hyperion and Atlas (from whatever Roland had recovered), and with the demise of Hyperion Claptrap's combat software could still be recovered and restored, coupled with a now-voluntary cloaking ability that doesn't override his other protocols. Or at the very least, we can have all of these people fight by our side again, and it will be BADASS. "We will need all the Vault Hunters we can get" after all.

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* We will finally be able to use our old favorite Vault Hunters again, minus Roland, Nisha, Wilhelm, and Jack's Body Double, who have not survived past the activation of the Vault Map; and we get them with much more OOMPH! Not only has Lilith gained more power, Mordecai a new Bloodwing, and Brick now possessing a big-ass hammer, the new Vault Hunters of Borderlands2 ''Borderlands 2'' have gained experience, Athena now has access to what remains of DAHL, Hyperion and Atlas (from whatever Roland had recovered), and with the demise of Hyperion Claptrap's combat software could still be recovered and restored, coupled with a now-voluntary cloaking ability that doesn't override his other protocols. Or at the very least, we can have all of these people fight by our side again, and it will be BADASS. "We will need all the Vault Hunters we can get" after all.


* This is Borderlands we're talking about here. [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality Logic]] [[RuleOfCool isn't]] [[RuleOfFunny exactly]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall a]] [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible major]] [[CrazyAwesome concern]].

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* This is Borderlands we're talking about here. [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality Logic]] [[RuleOfCool isn't]] [[RuleOfFunny exactly]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall a]] [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible major]] [[CrazyAwesome [[CrazyIsCool concern]].


[[WMG: The Vaults have [[MassEffect Indoctrination]] Powers]]

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[[WMG: The Vaults have [[MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect Indoctrination]] Powers]]

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[[WMG: Every surviving playable Vault Hunter will be playable in Borderlands 3]]
* The [[spoiler:alien]] said that [[spoiler:a war is coming and we're going to need all the Vault Hunters we can get]]. The Borderlands 1 characters are present for the initial framing story, and the Borderlands 2 characters show up later. On top of that, they go out of their way to tell us that [[spoiler:Aurelia]] was tracked down and recruited in the present despite the misgivings about her. This would be a perfect setup for the climactic events implied to be taking place in Borderlands 3, be a huge selling point, and perhaps even give some reason for the characters to have belonged to classes all along (like Lilith and Maya sharing Class Mods). New characters could still be added (likely at least a couple from Tales from the Borderlands), especially since more characters could overlap. This would also offer players an option to keep Jack in the series (through Timothy) without forcing it.




** The surviving [=BL1=] Vault Hunters and all the [=BL2=] Vault Hunters as [=NPCs=]. Athena, Timothy, Aurelia, Claptrap will join them as well, and ''possibly'' Nisha, if the writing team decides to use "writing magic" to revive her in some way.

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** The surviving [=BL1=] Vault Hunters and all the [=BL2=] Vault Hunters as [=NPCs=]. Athena, Timothy, Aurelia, Claptrap will join them as well, and ''possibly'' Nisha, if the writing team decides to use "writing magic" to revive her in some way.way (and she goes through serious character development over the course of the game).


** The surviving BL1 Vault Hunters.
** All the BL2 Vault Hunters.
** The protagonists of Tales from the Borderlands as the newest members.
** Athena, Timothy, Aurelia, Claptrap, and ''possibly'' Nisha, if the writing team decides to use "writing magic" to revive her in some way.

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** The surviving BL1 [=BL1=] Vault Hunters.
** All
Hunters and all the BL2 [=BL2=] Vault Hunters.
** The protagonists of Tales from the Borderlands
Hunters as the newest members.
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[=NPCs=]. Athena, Timothy, Aurelia, Claptrap, Claptrap will join them as well, and ''possibly'' Nisha, if the writing team decides to use "writing magic" to revive her in some way.
** The protagonists of Tales from the Borderlands as the newest members and possibly the best so far, having been trained by every existing Vault Hunter in preparation for the war.

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[[WMG: There are going to be loads and loads of spin-offs.]]
* With the supposed "War" approaching, as well as the map filled with Vaults spread across the universe, there are going to be a lot of games, each focusing on a different group of Vault Hunters battling and/or working with different corporations to open the many vaults across the galaxy.
**Perhaps there would be one more game taking place on Pandora to round out the trilogy, and then each game afterwards would take place on another planet.

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[[WMG: Janey Springs is related to Tiny Tina.]]

* She probably isn't Tina's mother, since Tina's parents were murdered by Hyperion (no thanks to Flesh-Stick) before the events of ''2'', and Springs is gay, but there is no denying Springs and Tina look very similar to one another. Perhaps Springs is Tina's aunt, or a cousin?

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[[WMG: Jack killed Timothy between games]]

* He wasn't about to let anyone walk around wearing his old, pre-scarred face, and he had no need for a guy who looked like that anymore. He ''does'' have a body double in BL2, but that's clearly a different guy, and uses holograms instead of actually having Jack's face. And Timothy was considerably less evil than Nisha or Wilhelm, so it's doubtful he'd stay in Jack's employ anyway. He's the one Vault Hunter we don't know the fate of (even Aurelia got name-dropped as still alive), so good chance he's dead. Two possibilities for how:
** Know how in the intro of Borderlands 2, Jack [[http://i.imgur.com/brnFBpw.png left a decoy on the train]]? That's him, after being heavily tortured and killed by Jack.
** Alternately, maybe Timothy is the source of Jack's mask. Shame to let a pristine copy of his face go to waste, right?


* Confirmed. [[spoiler:Prior to the start of the game, the Watcher had informed her of a terrible war that would break out should the Vault of the Warrior be opened. The Vault on Elpis contained what seems to be the only remaining information on the Vault of the Warrior, so Zarpedon and her crew decided to guard it. After learning about the opening of the original Vault and Jack's hunt for a Vault on Elpis, Zarpedon realized that the only guaranteed way to prevent the war would be to destroy Pandora and Elpis - and their Vaults along with them.]]



[[WMG: Zer0 is Timothy Lawrence]]

Considering the Pre-Sequel! takes place like a year or two after the first one, and the second one happened about 3-4 years after this one, a lot could change in that time. Both Zer0 and "Jack" can generate holograms, not to mention Zer0 never shows his face anyway.

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[[WMG: Zer0 [=Zer0=] is Timothy Lawrence]]

Considering the Pre-Sequel! takes place like a year or two after the first one, and the second one happened about 3-4 years after this one, a lot could change in that time. Both Zer0 [=Zer0=] and "Jack" can generate holograms, not to mention Zer0 [=Zer0=] never shows his face anyway.



* The ECHO logs you collect where Angel is telling Jack about Zer0 imply that Zer0 didn't know anything about any vaults
** Zer0 is most likely not human. He has four fingers per hand and walks in a notably different manner from Human stance.

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* The ECHO logs you collect where Angel is telling Jack about Zer0 [=Zer0=] imply that Zer0 [=Zer0=] didn't know anything about any vaults
** Zer0 [=Zer0=] is most likely not human. He has four fingers per hand and walks in a notably different manner from Human stance.



Think about it. First, Elpsis: it could very have well been either the command center from which the Eridians could control Pandora's features from the very heavens. If not this, then at the very least it possesses the same function as a colossal Library

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Think about it. First, Elpsis: Elpis: it could very have well been either the command center from which the Eridians could control Pandora's features from the very heavens. If not this, then at the very least it possesses the same function as a colossal Library

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[[WMG: Borderlands 3 Intro Music]]

Just because.

* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im8zYhFB0JA Churchill-Change]]: The tone of the song could match perfectly with the idea that the universe is about to change, and the Vault hunters must either change with it or be swept away.

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[[WMG: Timothy Lawrence will wear a mask in Borderlands 3]]
He can't revert the surgery, so a mask would be the best option to not look like Jack, it would be fitting for Handsome Jack.

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[[WMG: Borderlands 3 will not feature Jack as a villain, nor will he appear in any major capacity]]
He's been killed twice now, it's time for new villains to take the spotlight. This doesn't mean he won't appear, but he won't be the main villain anymore. Bonus points if there's a callback to Nakayama's failure cloning the Destroyer and we get a Jack that is the size of a Lil Psycho running about.

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** I second this section of the WMG, if only because it would mean more varieties of enemies and hopefully new enemy AI to go up against.



[[WMG: The Upcoming War]]
* Given what we know about the universe with four total games, I propose that the third game will focus on a new corporate war over Pandora and the fact that four vaults were opened on or above the planet. Lilith will be straining under both the chains of command of the Crimson Raiders, and her Eridium "experiments".

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