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[[WMG: Everything after "Perfect Day" is [[AllJustADream dream]] of Ben's.[[WMG:

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[[WMG: Everything after "Perfect Day" is a [[AllJustADream dream]] of Ben's.[[WMG:]]




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* One problem with this theory is that Mighty Max is set in the 90s with Max as a child, whereas Grandpa Max grew up decades earlier (one episode states that he nearly became the first man on the moon).


As the Ben 10 Wiki points out, the Bodyguards samurai design is similar,and it makes sense that they are likely just a custom variant of the Techadon Robots.

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As the Ben 10 Wiki points out, the Bodyguards samurai design is similar,and it makes sense that they are likely just a custom variant of the Techadon Robots.Robots.
[[WMG: Eventually, there will be another reboot, this time DarkerAndEdgier and aimed at a young adults.]]
[[TooGoodToLast And it will be canceled after one season.]]


** Upchuck: Basically, no change.

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** Upchuck: Basically, no change.change.
[[WMG: Slix Vigma's Bodyguards are a variant of Techadon Robots]]
As the Ben 10 Wiki points out, the Bodyguards samurai design is similar,and it makes sense that they are likely just a custom variant of the Techadon Robots.

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* A further part could be Gwen being an InstantExpert with the Omnitrix, which could be caused by Ben's own insecurities that Gwen would be a superior Omnitrix wielder, as well as inconsistencies such as Gwen!Grey Matter having Gwen's red hair when all Galvan seen in the future series are shown not to ''have'' hair, which would be understandable, aside from Tetrax and Kevin Ben has yet to encounter any other members of species he can transform into, so he has no idea female Galvan wouldn't have hair.


** Likely jossed? In alien force, Gwen's grandma says that most Anodite's try to help other beings in the universe. So it's clear that they do at least feel a sense of emphathy.

[[WMG:If the Hotel Guard "Kevin 11" had Discovered Ben as an Alien]]
While Ben, Gwen, and Grandpa were at New York to spend a night at a hotel then Ben was about to check out the new sumo slamo game but the guard stopped him and I think he was starting to become suspicious about the omitrix. then Ben transformed into ghost freak and and played the new game unfortunately the guard caught him in the act and expels the Tennysons. Later Ben and Kevin were in pursuit by the Swat Team while in stinkfly and carries Kevin. The guard would heaved seen Stinkfly (Ben) in a shock he must halved thrown a rock at Ben which causes him to change back and crashed landed with Kevin. The hotel guard would halved been shocked realising that Stinkfly was Ben whom sneaked into the Sumo Slamo Game. He would become extremely angry of Ben with a bad temper. Kevin would get away leaving Ben with the guard and the rest of the crowed shocked and upset also. The Guard would to terrible thing to Ben by the fallowing.

* He would halved assaulted Ben, accused him for high treason, and halved him taken away Making Max and Gwen in a state of horror.


* He would halved beaten up Ben in the face few times until he dies.




* Ben would manage to get away from the guard, and the crowd. But he would team up with Kevin to get his revenge for not only kicking him Gwen, and Max out of the hotel, but for exposing him as well. Ben and Kevin would halved destroyed the hotel and killed a few people in there, but the Guard would manage to escape and call for help. The Army would halved captured Ben along with Kevin. They would halved also captured Gwen and Man and starts to questioned them. They would halved discovered that the Rust Bucket is equipped alien technology and weapons. The Guard would halved interrogated Max which would make him talk. And then Ben would halved been immediately put to death.

* The Guard would halved Captured Ben and call his Mother.

'''Sandra Tennyson (Answers the phone) Hello?

'''Hotel Guard''': Yes you must be Mrs. Tennyson. This is ??? I'm a security guard at the hotel, and I'm calling for regards of your foster son Ben.

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Acting stunned) Ben? My God is he alright?

'''Hotel Guard''': No Mrs. Tennyson. He has gone crazy!

'''Sandra Tennyson''': Gone crazy? What are you...

'''Hotel Guard''': He was dressed like a communist.

'''Sandra Tennyson''': What? A communist?

'''Hotel Guard''': YOU FOSTER SON CAUSED AN ENTIRE INFANT'S BODY TO BURN INTO A RIOTOUS FRENZY!

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Acting Scared) A Riot? No it couldn't be my.

'''Hotel Guard''': And if I where You Mrs. Tennyson, I'd seriously re-evaluate the way your raising a child, BEFORE HE WOULD BE PUT DOWN IN THE ELECTRIC CHAIR! (Hangs up on Sandra)

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Becomes shocked) THE ELECTRIC CHAIR?! (Starts crying)

** This would halved made the Tennysons to come get Ben and Gwen, start arguing with Max about the so called incident, and starts to become over protective for Ben.

* He would halved made all the Tennysons (Ben's and Gwen's parents) and Grandpa Max pay off the debt to the Hotel, Total Rally, and all of New York $100 Trillon for Ben's actions.

*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Government to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And not only would he make Max Tennyson and his entire family pay for the damages Ben had done, he would halved taken away their luggage (Which he tossed out earlier) assaulted Max, and halved the Govermnet repossessed everything the Tennysons own. And Gwen would halved been taken away from her family and ether put in a foster home, or locked up in prison.

[[WMG: If Ben had Assaulted Brad the Water Park Attendant]]
If Ben Assaulted Brad (for refusing him to slide to to his height) instead of trying to transform into Ripjaw, Brad and his boss of Riptide Rapids would halved sued Max and the rest of the Tennyson's family for Ben's violent behavior and had him sent to an anger management. But it would halved backfired, and Ben would transform into an alien, and go on a rampage freaking everyone out including his family. But Ben would halved been stopped by his grandfather Max, then Brad would halved called the police, and had him put in a mental hospital. Then Brad would halved had the Tennysons bankrupted for good, and given a life prison sentence.

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** Likely jossed? In alien force, Alien Force, Gwen's grandma says that most Anodite's Anodites try to help other beings in the universe. So it's clear that they do at least feel a sense of emphathy.

[[WMG:If the Hotel Guard "Kevin 11" had Discovered Ben as an Alien]]
While Ben, Gwen, and Grandpa were at New York to spend a night at a hotel then Ben was about to check out the new sumo slamo game but the guard stopped him and I think he was starting to become suspicious about the omitrix. then Ben transformed into ghost freak and and played the new game unfortunately the guard caught him in the act and expels the Tennysons. Later Ben and Kevin were in pursuit by the Swat Team while in stinkfly and carries Kevin. The guard would heaved seen Stinkfly (Ben) in a shock he must halved thrown a rock at Ben which causes him to change back and crashed landed with Kevin. The hotel guard would halved been shocked realising that Stinkfly was Ben whom sneaked into the Sumo Slamo Game. He would become extremely angry of Ben with a bad temper. Kevin would get away leaving Ben with the guard and the rest of the crowed shocked and upset also. The Guard would to terrible thing to Ben by the fallowing.

* He would halved assaulted Ben, accused him for high treason, and halved him taken away Making Max and Gwen in a state of horror.


* He would halved beaten up Ben in the face few times until he dies.




* Ben would manage to get away from the guard, and the crowd. But he would team up with Kevin to get his revenge for not only kicking him Gwen, and Max out of the hotel, but for exposing him as well. Ben and Kevin would halved destroyed the hotel and killed a few people in there, but the Guard would manage to escape and call for help. The Army would halved captured Ben along with Kevin. They would halved also captured Gwen and Man and starts to questioned them. They would halved discovered that the Rust Bucket is equipped alien technology and weapons. The Guard would halved interrogated Max which would make him talk. And then Ben would halved been immediately put to death.

* The Guard would halved Captured Ben and call his Mother.

'''Sandra Tennyson (Answers the phone) Hello?

'''Hotel Guard''': Yes you must be Mrs. Tennyson. This is ??? I'm a security guard at the hotel, and I'm calling for regards of your foster son Ben.

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Acting stunned) Ben? My God is he alright?

'''Hotel Guard''': No Mrs. Tennyson. He has gone crazy!

'''Sandra Tennyson''': Gone crazy?
empathy.

[[WMG:
What are you...

'''Hotel Guard''': He was dressed
the other aliens have looked like a communist.

'''Sandra Tennyson''': What? A communist?

'''Hotel Guard''': YOU FOSTER SON CAUSED AN ENTIRE INFANT'S BODY TO BURN INTO A RIOTOUS FRENZY!

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Acting Scared) A Riot? No it couldn't be my.

'''Hotel Guard''': And if I where You Mrs. Tennyson, I'd seriously re-evaluate the way your raising a child, BEFORE HE WOULD BE PUT DOWN IN THE ELECTRIC CHAIR! (Hangs up on Sandra)

'''Sandra Tennyson''': (Becomes shocked) THE ELECTRIC CHAIR?! (Starts crying)

** This would halved made the Tennysons to come get Ben and Gwen, start arguing with Max about the so called incident, and starts to become over protective for Ben.

* He would halved made all the Tennysons (Ben's and Gwen's parents) and Grandpa Max pay off the debt to the Hotel, Total Rally, and all of New York $100 Trillon for Ben's actions.

*** Alternatively
if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands had turned into them in "Don't Drink the Water"]]
** Diamondhead: Smaller chibi version
of people Diamondhead, just to get money, Kevin would halved helped like Heatblast. Would have been get back at unable to properly control diamond constructs, only fire diamonds.
** XLR8: Also chibi version. Would lack
the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, black spheres on his feet, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted be unable to murder him as well. The Guard run along walls or over liquids.
** Grey Matter: Judging by how Galvan infants are tadpoles, it could be assumed that 4-year-old Grey Matter
would halved convenience the Government to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And not only have developed limbs by that point, but they would he make Max Tennyson be too short and his entire family pay stubby for the damages him to use properly.
** Ripjaws: Would be completely unable to breathe air.
** Upgrade: Just a chibi Upgrade with no differences (because they are artificial lifeforms).
** Ghostfreak (true form, since
Ben had done, he reabsorbed Z'Skayr by said point): Just a smaller Ectonurite (judging by what we've seen of them in ''Omniverse'').
** Cannonbolt: Smaller and
would halved taken away their luggage (Which he tossed out earlier) assaulted Max, and halved have the Govermnet repossessed everything the Tennysons own. And Gwen same abilities, but armour plates would halved been taken away from her family and ether put in a foster home, or locked up in prison.

[[WMG: If Ben had Assaulted Brad the Water Park Attendant]]
If Ben Assaulted Brad (for refusing him to slide to
be weaker due to his height) instead of trying to transform into Ripjaw, Brad infancy.
** Wildvine: More sapling-like,
and his boss of Riptide Rapids would halved sued Max constantly require sunlight, similar to Ripjaws and water.
** Blitzwolfer: [[PreciousPuppy PUPPY]]!
** Snare-Oh: Smaller and has a different headdress with a blackened bandage hanging off it, similar to how Egyptian boys wore their hair.
** Frankenstrike: Dimunitive and lacks
the rest of the Tennyson's family for Ben's violent behavior and had him sent to an anger management. But it would halved backfired, and Ben would transform into an alien, and go on a rampage freaking everyone out including electrical towers, meaning he could only channel electricity through his family. But Ben would halved been stopped by his grandfather Max, then Brad would halved called the police, and had him put in a mental hospital. Then Brad would halved had the Tennysons bankrupted for good, and given a life prison sentence.fists.
** Upchuck: Basically, no change.



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** I don't remember if "Ben 10,000" did it but certainly "Goodbye and Good Riddance" and I think "Gwen 10" begin and end with the framing device of the episode being a comic book akin to Marvel's What If comics, which ''could'' be taken as it claiming that, though I'd say, as I said earlier in this paragraph, that it's more just a framing device.



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** Likely jossed? In alien force, Gwen's grandma says that most Anodite's try to help other beings in the universe. So it's clear that they do at least feel a sense of emphathy.



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** Probably jossed. As far as i'm aware it's canon that the watch doesn't give Ben the aliens that he wants from time to time, but to what he ''needs''. I recall an explanation for his random alien transformations being that it's because Ben slaps on the watc too hard. Like slamming your phone too hard and hitting a random app.



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** Wait a minute. How do those episodes "clearly" reveal that it's a comic book series? As far as I'm aware, there's been no such hints.



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** This can still be worked around. It's likely that because she's off somewhere else, Ben grew to be quite a sad person who has forgotten how to have fun without Kai around. Alteranatively alternatively, Ben 10,000 and Kai got divorced, which would give a good explanation as to why he was like... That.

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[[WMG: The hotel guard from "Kevin 11" is Thumbskull's brother.]]
The two share quite a few physical similarities. It'd also explain why he was angry enough to have the whole family thrown out [[DisproportionateRetribution just because one kid took a peek at one game.]] He'd turned a blind eye to his brother's criminal behavior as a kid, felt guilty that he eventually ran off to join an evil circus, and wanted Max to be stricter with his Grandson so as to stop enabling him to go down a path of crime. Furthermore, he might've suspected on some level that Ben had strange powers like his brother did, and realized it was especially important not to let him get away with misusing them.


[[WMG: The Ben 10,000 timeline IS an alternate timeline from ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', but...]]
* It's the same timeline as the original series. How is this possible? Well, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' are AlternateTimelines to the original series/10K; in the OS/10K timeline, Vilgax is an irredeemable monster from the Null Void Frontier who, in all likelihood, almost drove his own people to extinction, which explains why Myaxx fears him. Not only that, but the Plumbers ARE merely an Earth-based MIB. Oh, and Gwen's powers come from magic; she isn't a half-Anodyte hybrid. Finally, Kevin never redeems himself and is inherently a {{Sociopath}}; the reason for all the CharacterDerailment, [[ContinuitySnarl Continuity Snarls]] and such in AF/UA is simply because they're not the same timeline as the original series. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to enjoy both the original series and its "sequels," even though the sequel series DO have writing of a slightly lower quality and the animation doesn't look as nice due to the dimmer palates and less aesthetically-pleasing art designs. Also, some of the aliens from the AF timeline ARE eventually made available to Ben in the OS/10K timeline; to be specific, one of them would be [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rath]].

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[[WMG: The Ben 10,000 timeline IS an alternate timeline from ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', but...]]
* It's the same timeline as the original series. How is this possible? Well, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' are AlternateTimelines to the original series/10K; in the OS/10K timeline, Vilgax is an irredeemable monster from the Null Void Frontier who, in all likelihood, almost drove his own people to extinction, which explains why Myaxx fears him. Not only that, but the Plumbers ARE merely an Earth-based MIB. Oh, and Gwen's powers come from magic; she isn't a half-Anodyte hybrid. Finally, Kevin never redeems himself and is inherently a {{Sociopath}}; the reason for all the CharacterDerailment, [[ContinuitySnarl Continuity Snarls]] and such in AF/UA is simply because they're not the same timeline as the original series. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to enjoy both the original series and its "sequels," even though the sequel series DO have writing of a slightly lower quality and the animation doesn't look as nice due to the dimmer palates and less aesthetically-pleasing art designs. Also, some of the aliens from the AF timeline ARE eventually made available to Ben in the OS/10K timeline; to be specific, one of them would be [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rath]].


*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Government to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And not only would he make Max Tennyson and his entire family pay for the damages Ben had done, he would halved taken away their luggage (Which he tossed out earlier) assaulted Max, and halved the Govermnet repossessed everything the Tennysons own.

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*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Government to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And not only would he make Max Tennyson and his entire family pay for the damages Ben had done, he would halved taken away their luggage (Which he tossed out earlier) assaulted Max, and halved the Govermnet repossessed everything the Tennysons own.
own. And Gwen would halved been taken away from her family and ether put in a foster home, or locked up in prison.


*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Goverment to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And he would halved made Max Tennyson and his enitre family pay for the damages Ben had done.

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*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Goverment Government to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And he not only would halved made he make Max Tennyson and his enitre entire family pay for the damages Ben had done.
done, he would halved taken away their luggage (Which he tossed out earlier) assaulted Max, and halved the Govermnet repossessed everything the Tennysons own.


*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only killing thousands people for money but for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Goverment to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And he would halved made Max Tennyson and his enitre family pay for the damages Ben had done.

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*** Alternatively if Ben helped Kevin 11 thousands of people just to get money, Kevin would halved helped been get back at the guard. Ben would halved changed into one of the aliens but the guard would manage to beat Ben and Kevin, then he would change back to normal. Then the Guard would realized that it was Ben whom he thew him (Along with Gwen and Max) out of the Hotel. The guard would be extremely angry at Ben, and would never forgive him for not only only sneaking into the Sumo Slamo game, but for destroying every arcade games in Total Rally (Kevin's fault actually), killing thousands people for money but money, and for attempted to murder him as well. The Guard would halved convenience the Goverment to halved Ben arrested, exiled, or worse (sentence to death). And he would halved made Max Tennyson and his enitre family pay for the damages Ben had done.

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