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I'd say [[ScavengerWorld Scavenger Town]].
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I'd say [[ScavengerWorld Scavenger Town]].Town]].
[[WMG: [[spoiler: The reason Wiseman comes back if you kill him in the past is because the Children of the Earth were meant to slay and seal him. ]]]]
[[spoiler: Wiseman does not end up as the final boss of Origins unless you go back in time to kill him, meaning that killing him in the past has to have a correlation with him coming back. Wacho mentions that the accepted knowledge is that he died in the War, and given how we never see him in anything ever again implies that this is correct. After killing Malpercio, the Children of the Earth went back to regain some power (two of their Godcraft had been slain and probably many more soldiers) to take on Wiseman, and given that they are prime wizards they likely knew how to kill him more permanently or seal his chance of ever truly coming back to the real world. If Sagi and co. go back to the past and kill him, he is not properly disposed of, which is why he takes the form of the final boss in the present day. Either way he corrupts Verus, but in the latter scenario he's able to give one last stand before being eradicated for good. ]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: The reason Wiseman comes back if you kill him in the past is because the Children of the Earth were meant to slay and seal him. ]]]]
[[spoiler: Wiseman does not end up as the final boss of Origins unless you go back in time to kill him, meaning that killing him in the past has to have a correlation with him coming back. Wacho mentions that the accepted knowledge is that he died in the War, and given how we never see him in anything ever again implies that this is correct. After killing Malpercio, the Children of the Earth went back to regain some power (two of their Godcraft had been slain and probably many more soldiers) to take on Wiseman, and given that they are prime wizards they likely knew how to kill him more permanently or seal his chance of ever truly coming back to the real world. If Sagi and co. go back to the past and kill him, he is not properly disposed of, which is why he takes the form of the final boss in the present day. Either way he corrupts Verus, but in the latter scenario he's able to give one last stand before being eradicated for good. ]]
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** Or just the fact that a girl's first period is often traditionally viewed as the start of adulthood, so Melodia's first period would mean she is now considered an adult and thus eligible for the title of Grand Duchess.
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* Actually, [[spoiler: Baelheit's Daimon]] might be the same spirit that served Kalas and Xelha, and several fans have expressed they believe it is so since back in 2006 and 2007, BKO's peak time. Sagi is just [[spoiler: experiencing manifestations of Marno's voice, is just a maledeiter]], and therefore, he is [[spoiler: ''not'' a spiriter in any way, and cannot have ''anything'' in common with real spiriters, such as Kalas, Xelha and Baelheit]]. It also makes sense, as [[spoiler: Daimon]] could have forgotten all about the past thanks to [[spoiler: Melodia's spell]], keeping [[spoiler: Daimon from interfering when she obviously would have, like she did when she abandoned Baelheit in order to express her support for Sagi and Milly's cause]]. Additionally, [[spoiler: Daimon is obviously bad judging her spiriters, so choosing Baelheit then Kalas would make an impressive pattern of stupidity that cannot be easily imitated]], considering all other guardian spirits have picked better spiriters, such as the Children of the Earth that sealed Malpercio away. Which of course means, [[spoiler: in BK3, the spiriter she chooses will be a traitor ''at best'']].
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* Actually, [[spoiler: Baelheit's Daimon]] might be the same spirit that served Kalas and Xelha, and several fans have expressed they believe it is so since back in 2006 and 2007, BKO's peak time. Sagi is just [[spoiler: experiencing manifestations of Marno's voice, is just a maledeiter]], and therefore, he is [[spoiler: ''not'' a spiriter in any way, and cannot have ''anything'' in common with real spiriters, such as Kalas, Xelha and Baelheit]]. It also makes sense, as [[spoiler: Daimon]] could have forgotten all about the past thanks to [[spoiler: Melodia's spell]], keeping [[spoiler: Daimon from interfering when she obviously would have, like she did when she abandoned Baelheit in order to express her support for Sagi and Milly's cause]]. Additionally, [[spoiler: Daimon is obviously bad judging her spiriters, so choosing Baelheit then Kalas would make an impressive pattern of stupidity that cannot be easily imitated]], considering all other guardian spirits have picked better spiriters, such as the Children of the Earth that sealed Malpercio away. Which of course means, [[spoiler: in BK3, the spiriter she chooses will be a traitor ''at best'']].best'']].
[[WMG: The ruins of Tarazed will be visited in a third game]]
I'd say [[ScavengerWorld Scavenger Town]].
[[WMG: The ruins of Tarazed will be visited in a third game]]
I'd say [[ScavengerWorld Scavenger Town]].
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* That also applies for the rest of the land, so ''everyone'' should be starving now, except if they eat fish...
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[[spoiler: Given the first WMG and how Melodia is present in the "summoning", which the GS came to Kalas]]. The spirit doesn't remember Origins because [[spoiler: the memory loss spell works on ExactWords, erasing their memory of the world before it was cast]]. How it works when [[spoiler:Sagi's GS is really part of Malpercio]] I haven't figured out yet.
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[[spoiler: Given the first WMG and how Melodia is present in the "summoning", which the GS came to Kalas]]. The spirit doesn't remember Origins because [[spoiler: the memory loss spell works on ExactWords, erasing their memory of the world before it was cast]]. How it works when [[spoiler:Sagi's GS is really part of Malpercio]] I haven't figured out yet.yet.
* Actually, [[spoiler: Baelheit's Daimon]] might be the same spirit that served Kalas and Xelha, and several fans have expressed they believe it is so since back in 2006 and 2007, BKO's peak time. Sagi is just [[spoiler: experiencing manifestations of Marno's voice, is just a maledeiter]], and therefore, he is [[spoiler: ''not'' a spiriter in any way, and cannot have ''anything'' in common with real spiriters, such as Kalas, Xelha and Baelheit]]. It also makes sense, as [[spoiler: Daimon]] could have forgotten all about the past thanks to [[spoiler: Melodia's spell]], keeping [[spoiler: Daimon from interfering when she obviously would have, like she did when she abandoned Baelheit in order to express her support for Sagi and Milly's cause]]. Additionally, [[spoiler: Daimon is obviously bad judging her spiriters, so choosing Baelheit then Kalas would make an impressive pattern of stupidity that cannot be easily imitated]], considering all other guardian spirits have picked better spiriters, such as the Children of the Earth that sealed Malpercio away. Which of course means, [[spoiler: in BK3, the spiriter she chooses will be a traitor ''at best'']].
* Actually, [[spoiler: Baelheit's Daimon]] might be the same spirit that served Kalas and Xelha, and several fans have expressed they believe it is so since back in 2006 and 2007, BKO's peak time. Sagi is just [[spoiler: experiencing manifestations of Marno's voice, is just a maledeiter]], and therefore, he is [[spoiler: ''not'' a spiriter in any way, and cannot have ''anything'' in common with real spiriters, such as Kalas, Xelha and Baelheit]]. It also makes sense, as [[spoiler: Daimon]] could have forgotten all about the past thanks to [[spoiler: Melodia's spell]], keeping [[spoiler: Daimon from interfering when she obviously would have, like she did when she abandoned Baelheit in order to express her support for Sagi and Milly's cause]]. Additionally, [[spoiler: Daimon is obviously bad judging her spiriters, so choosing Baelheit then Kalas would make an impressive pattern of stupidity that cannot be easily imitated]], considering all other guardian spirits have picked better spiriters, such as the Children of the Earth that sealed Malpercio away. Which of course means, [[spoiler: in BK3, the spiriter she chooses will be a traitor ''at best'']].
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[[spoiler:Salt rain on farmland? No way that's going to end well.]]
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[[spoiler:Salt rain on farmland? No way that's going to end well.]]
well]]. This will show up as a plot point in a third game.
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Melodia [[spoiler: was having her first period, hence the blood; she was not raped.]] This comes from the fact that Melodia [[spoiler: is basically a zombie until rescued from her fusion with Malpercio, so her period would signify she was alive and well. [[FridgeHorror At least, superficially...]]]]
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Melodia [[spoiler: was having her first period, hence the blood; she was not raped.]] This comes from the fact that Melodia [[spoiler: is basically a zombie until rescued from her fusion with Malpercio, so her period would signify she was alive and well. [[FridgeHorror At least, superficially...]]]]]]]]
[[WMG: Cebalrai is fucked]]
[[spoiler:Salt rain on farmland? No way that's going to end well.]]
[[WMG: Kalas's spirit is the same as Sagi's]]
[[spoiler: Given the first WMG and how Melodia is present in the "summoning", which the GS came to Kalas]]. The spirit doesn't remember Origins because [[spoiler: the memory loss spell works on ExactWords, erasing their memory of the world before it was cast]]. How it works when [[spoiler:Sagi's GS is really part of Malpercio]] I haven't figured out yet.
[[WMG: Cebalrai is fucked]]
[[spoiler:Salt rain on farmland? No way that's going to end well.]]
[[WMG: Kalas's spirit is the same as Sagi's]]
[[spoiler: Given the first WMG and how Melodia is present in the "summoning", which the GS came to Kalas]]. The spirit doesn't remember Origins because [[spoiler: the memory loss spell works on ExactWords, erasing their memory of the world before it was cast]]. How it works when [[spoiler:Sagi's GS is really part of Malpercio]] I haven't figured out yet.
