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** In-universe example: in the DLC case "Turnabout Reclaimed", in which the Shipshape Aquarium from a year ago had a rough and tumble Type 1 pirate crew, turning into the more romanticized Type 2 Swashbuckler Spectacular where it's Heroic Pirate vs Villainous Pirate. [[spoiler: [[FridgeBrilliance The reason why it got Light and Softer is because a year ago is when Orla supposedly killed Azura, therefore Jack Shipley probably thought it was best to help the Aquarium's image by becoming]] LighterAndSofter]]

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** In-universe example: in the DLC case "Turnabout Reclaimed", in which the Shipshape Aquarium from a year ago had a rough and tumble Type 1 pirate crew, turning into the more romanticized Type 2 Swashbuckler Spectacular where it's Heroic Pirate vs Villainous Pirate. [[spoiler: [[FridgeBrilliance The reason why it got Light and Softer is because [[spoiler:[[FridgeBrilliance This change in tone makes a lot of sense]] when you consider that a year ago is when Orla supposedly killed Azura, therefore Azura; Jack Shipley probably thought it was best to invoking this trope would help the Aquarium's image by becoming]] LighterAndSofter]]image]].



* MakeTheDogTestify: The defendant in the [[http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/24/ace-attorney-dual-destinies-dlc-chapter-takes-place-after-apollo-justice/ the first DLC]] is an orca. [[spoiler:And of course, we'll be cross-examining said orca (albeit through a television on the witness stand)]]. That said, [[spoiler:the testimony is actually a DoubleSubversion, as the option to call Orla as a witness shows up long before Phoenix actually resorts to it (the correct choice at first is to present evidence)]].

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* MakeTheDogTestify: The defendant in the [[http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/24/ace-attorney-dual-destinies-dlc-chapter-takes-place-after-apollo-justice/ the first DLC]] DLC case]] is an orca. [[spoiler:And of course, we'll be cross-examining said orca (albeit through a television on the witness stand)]]. That said, [[spoiler:the testimony is actually a DoubleSubversion, as the option to call Orla as a witness shows up long before Phoenix actually resorts to it (the correct choice at first is to present evidence)]].
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** The entire DLC case is this compared to most cases in the series.

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** The entire DLC case itself is this compared to most cases the rest of the game: while the main game deals with dark plot elements such as bombing incidents, people's distrust in the series.court system due to corruption, and [[spoiler:Athena's childhood trauma due to finding her mother dead and watching an innocent person take the fall for the murder]], "Turnabout Reclaimed" deals with a maybe accident, maybe murder in an aquarium, the "Dark Age of the Law" is not brought up, [[spoiler:the case was an accident after all, albeit not your clients' fault, with the culprit going through rehabilitation before [[HeelFaceTurn rejoining the aquarium's crew]]]], and [[spoiler:the case results in a full happy ending for everyone other than the victim, even the aforementioned culprit]].
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: [[spoiler:pretty much everything Apollo does in case 1! Poor guy gets injured in the explosion saving Juniper Woods' life. Then gets INJURED AGAIN finding evidence that cleared her!]]

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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: [[spoiler:pretty much everything Apollo does in case 1! Poor guy gets injured in the explosion saving Juniper Woods' life. Then gets INJURED AGAIN finding evidence that cleared her!]]her! No wonder she falls for him!]]
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: [[spoiler]] much everything Apollo does in case 1! Poor guy gets injured in the explosion saving Juniper Woods' life. Then gets INJURED AGAIN finding evidence that cleared her! [[/spoiler]]

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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: [[spoiler]] [[spoiler:pretty much everything Apollo does in case 1! Poor guy gets injured in the explosion saving Juniper Woods' life. Then gets INJURED AGAIN finding evidence that cleared her! [[/spoiler]]her!]]
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: [[spoiler]] much everything Apollo does in case 1! Poor guy gets injured in the explosion saving Juniper Woods' life. Then gets INJURED AGAIN finding evidence that cleared her! [[/spoiler]]
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** Played with in the DLC case. As Fulbright admits, the initial case ''isn't'' murder because the suspect was an orca; animals can't commit murder, and the death was ruled as accidental caused by negligent handling of an animal. It's a murder from the player's perspective because the orca would be put down if she ''had'' killed the victim, even if technically no crime was committed, and the case is ultimately prosecuted as your standard murder case with the orca as a suspect. [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle Then Orla is proven innocent, and Sasha Buckler becomes the next suspect]] ([[BatmanGambit which was Blackquill's plan all along; he'd suspected Sasha from the start and took on the orca trial to get an opportunity to indict her]]), which would be a murder as Sasha is human and Blackquill is arguing that she killed the victim due to an argument they had. [[spoiler:And ultimately subverted; both Jack Shipley's death and Azura Summers' death in the backstory were accidents; Shipley slipped and fell into a drained pool and Azura had a heart attack.]]

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** Played with in the DLC case. As Fulbright admits, the initial case ''isn't'' murder because the suspect was an orca; animals can't commit murder, and the death was ruled as accidental caused by negligent handling of an animal. It's a murder from the player's perspective because the orca would be put down if she ''had'' killed the victim, even if technically no crime was committed, and the case is ultimately prosecuted as your standard murder case with the orca as a suspect. [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle Then Orla is proven innocent, and Sasha Buckler becomes the next suspect]] ([[BatmanGambit which was Blackquill's plan all along; he'd suspected Sasha from the start and took on the orca trial to get an opportunity to indict her]]), which would be a murder as Sasha is human and Blackquill is arguing that she killed the victim due to an argument they had. [[spoiler:And ultimately subverted; both Jack Shipley's death and Azura Summers' death in the backstory were accidents; Shipley slipped and fell into a drained pool and Azura had a heart attack. The true culprit of the former, who was actually trying to ''save'' Shipley, is only charged with rehabilitation and goes free a few months later.]]



** In the Turnabout Reclaimed, Phoenix is shocked to learn that the victim's updated autopsy report ''doesn't'' screw him over and actually ''helps'' him as it reveals that the victim died as exactly as Phoenix described earlier.

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** In the Turnabout Reclaimed, Phoenix is shocked to learn that the victim's updated autopsy report ''doesn't'' screw him over and actually ''helps'' him as it reveals that the victim died as exactly as Phoenix described earlier.



* DubInducedPlotHole: There's a bug in the English 3DS version that hides a big hint at the beginning of case 3 that [[spoiler:Means is the true killer.]] When you first meet him in the Japanese version, [[spoiler:he doesn't have his staff!]] The plot hole kicks in the end when it becomes apparent that [[spoiler:the murder weapon must be in two places at the same time]]. This plothole was fixed in the iOS port.

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* DubInducedPlotHole: There's a bug in the English 3DS version that hides a big hint at the beginning of case 3 that [[spoiler:Means is the true killer.]] When you first meet him in the Japanese version, [[spoiler:he doesn't have his staff!]] staff.]] The plot hole kicks in the end when it becomes apparent that [[spoiler:the murder weapon must be in two places [[spoiler:[[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice it should've still been sticking out of the victim's body at the same time]].time]]]]. This plothole was fixed in the iOS port.



** The DLC case "''Turnabout Reclaimed''" has one of the most uplifting endings in the entire series. [[spoiler:Chief of all, despite being the true antagonist of the case, Marlon Rimes is ''not'' the guilty party in Jack Shipley's death and in fact attempted to ''save his life''. Shipley died because he fell into a pool Marlon had drained to take revenge on Orla for supposedly killing his girlfriend Azura a year ago. Shipley had rushed to the scene to try to talk him out of it but slipped and fell in, with Marlon attempting to pull him up but failing because Shipley didn't want to drag him down into the pool. However, Marlon is informed that the orca wasn't even responsible for his girlfriend's death, which actually came about due to heart failure during a performance (a condition Sasha Buckler also has and is treated for by the end of the case). This in turn helps Phoenix work out that the orca from the previous incident was not the same due to different behavioral and physical evidence, which leads to the discovery that the original "Ora Shipley" was the current orca's (Orla) sister and was put down due to being perceived as Azura's killer. So Rimes ends up realizing his revenge against the orca was meaningless and decides to change his life for the better, with Sasha welcoming him back to the aquarium with open arms after serving time for perjuring himself on the stand. However, what's more is the ''other'' orca isn't even dead! Shipley and the aquarium's doctor had been housing it offsite to make it look like they killed it at the request of the authorities and now that everything is cleared up, the aquarium brings her back to join her sister at the end of the case (Marlon is also out of jail by this point and now portraying Redstache in the Swashbuckler Spectacular, assuming the late Jack Shipley's role). Furthermore, the animal monitoring system Dr. Crab had been using was legalized through Norma [=DePlume=]'s advocacy, allowing him to use it freely without having to hide it any longer.]] ''Ace Attorney'' cases typically end well for the defendant but with a bittersweet reminder of what happened. This time, ''everything'' works out for the best (aside from Shipley's death, of course) and life at the Shipshape Aquarium could even be said to be better than ever.

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** The DLC case "''Turnabout Reclaimed''" has one of the most uplifting endings in the entire series. [[spoiler:Chief of all, despite being the true antagonist of the case, Marlon Rimes is ''not'' the guilty party in Jack Shipley's death and in fact attempted to ''save his life''. Shipley died because he fell into a pool Marlon had drained to take revenge on Orla for supposedly killing his girlfriend Azura a year ago. Shipley had rushed to the scene to try to talk him out of it but slipped and fell in, with Marlon attempting to pull him up but failing because Shipley didn't want refused to drag let him be dragged down into the pool.pool as well. However, Marlon is informed that the orca wasn't even responsible for his girlfriend's death, which actually came about due to heart failure during a performance (a condition Sasha Buckler also has and is treated for by the end of the case). This in turn helps Phoenix work out that the orca from the previous incident was not the same due to different behavioral and physical evidence, which leads to the discovery that the original "Ora Shipley" was the current orca's (Orla) sister and was put down due to being perceived as Azura's killer. So Rimes ends up realizing his revenge against the orca was meaningless and decides to change his life for the better, with Sasha welcoming him back to the aquarium with open arms after serving time for perjuring himself on the stand. However, what's more is the ''other'' orca isn't even dead! Shipley and the aquarium's doctor had been housing it offsite to make it look like they killed it at the request of the authorities and now that everything is cleared up, the aquarium brings her back to join her sister at the end of the case (Marlon is also out of jail by this point and now portraying Redstache in the Swashbuckler Spectacular, assuming the late Jack Shipley's role). Furthermore, the animal monitoring system Dr. Crab had been using was legalized through Norma [=DePlume=]'s advocacy, allowing him to use it freely without having to hide it any longer.]] ''Ace Attorney'' cases typically end well for the defendant but with a bittersweet reminder of what happened. This time, ''everything'' works out for the best (aside from Shipley's death, of course) and life at the Shipshape Aquarium could even be said to be better than ever.
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--> '''Phoenix:''' What?! (It's something... GOOD for a change?!)

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--> ---> '''Phoenix:''' What?! (It's something... GOOD for a change?!)

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--->'''Phoenix:''' [[spoiler:Assaulted in a court of law and losing your memory at that]]... I know how that feels...



--->'''Phoenix:''' [[spoiler:Assaulted in a court of law and losing your memory at that]]... I know how that feels...
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-->-- '''Phoenix Wright''', "Turnabout Countdown"

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-->-- '''Phoenix Wright''', Case 5-1: "Turnabout Countdown"

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