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The game was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzueiImWiHA unveiled]] at Creator/SquareEnix's [[UsefulNotes/E3InThe2020s E3 2021]] presentation and had three different demos leading up to release for feedback and advertising purposes, including one less than a week before the full release with save transfers. The full game was released for Platform/PlayStation5, Platform/XboxSeriesXAndS, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/XboxOne, and PC on March 15, 2022 for console pre-orders and March 18 for everyone else.

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The game was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzueiImWiHA unveiled]] at Creator/SquareEnix's [[UsefulNotes/E3InThe2020s [[MediaNotes/E3InThe2020s E3 2021]] presentation and had three different demos leading up to release for feedback and advertising purposes, including one less than a week before the full release with save transfers. The full game was released for Platform/PlayStation5, Platform/XboxSeriesXAndS, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/XboxOne, and PC on March 15, 2022 for console pre-orders and March 18 for everyone else.
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** In the [=DLC=], [[spoiler:Gilgamesh and the Emperor both remark about having met [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy another version of Garland]] other than Jack. Similarly, a summonable monster makes reference to knowing a version of Jack and his friends who genuinely fell to evil and darkness rather than doing it as part of a ZeroApprovalGambit to create the Warriors of Light.]]

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** In the [=DLC=], [[spoiler:Gilgamesh and the Emperor both remark about having met [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy another version of Garland]] other than Jack. The Moogle also mentions that version of Garland, also making a point to say that he ''isn't'' Jack. Similarly, a summonable monster makes reference to knowing a version of Jack and his friends who genuinely fell to evil and darkness rather than doing it as part of a ZeroApprovalGambit to create the Warriors of Light.]]



*** The ''Different Future'' DLC doubles-down on the ''Dissidia'' allusions. The primary enemies in the DLC are Manikins, the same type of creatures as in ''Dissidia'', and [[spoiler:the Moogle that accompanies Jack and his friends is from World B, as they claim to hail from a future world where warriors from myriad worlds came together to battle at the command of two warring gods, one of harmony and one of discord. At the end of the DLC the Moogle tells Jack that he, as Chaos, must become the god of discord to balance a Warrior of Light who will become a god of harmony, and a new world will be built upon their power.]]

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*** The ''Different Future'' DLC doubles-down on the ''Dissidia'' allusions. The primary enemies in the DLC are Manikins, the same type of creatures as in ''Dissidia'', and [[spoiler:the Moogle that accompanies Jack and his friends is from World B, as they claim to hail from a future world where warriors from myriad worlds came together to battle at the command of two warring gods, one of harmony and one of discord. At the end of the DLC the Moogle tells Jack that he, as Chaos, must become the god of discord to balance a Warrior of Light who will become a god of harmony, and a new world will be built upon their power. The Moogle also alludes to ''Dissidia'''s iteration of Garland, but interestingly states that he isn't Jack.]]



** Cid and Mid, two of the series' staples, appear in the ''Wanderer of the Rift'' DLC, but this time, both of them are tonberries.

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** Cid and Mid, two of the series' staples, appear in the ''Wanderer of the Rift'' DLC, but this time, both of them are tonberries. [[spoiler: A conversation with Cid reveals that he was named such by "the Moogle" who also "[[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy explained the meaning behind the name]]".]]

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* HaveANiceDeath: If you lose the TrueFinalBoss fight of "Different Future" where you face [[spoiler:Jack, he will taunts you and says he'll be looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years]].

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* HaveANiceDeath: If you lose the TrueFinalBoss fight of "Different Future" where you face [[spoiler:Jack, he will taunts taunt you and says he'll be looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years]].



* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Jack can use Soul Shield to copy an enemy's special abilities to use against them, i.e., he can copy a Bomb's Fire spells and throw them right back at them, or he can use a Tonberry's Everyone's Grudge or a Cactuar's 1000 Needles against them.
** Narratively, Jack [[spoiler: does this in a few boss fights to finish them . And after the reveal of his plan ,Jack proceeds to do this to the Lufeanians, turning their own network against them by corrupting it, then using it to destory them. Accidentally becoming a God in the process.]]

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: HoistByHisOwnPetard:
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Jack can use Soul Shield to copy an enemy's special abilities to use against them, i.e., he can copy a Bomb's Fire spells and throw them right back at them, or he can use a Tonberry's Everyone's Grudge or a Cactuar's 1000 Needles against them.
** Narratively, Jack [[spoiler: does this in a few boss fights to finish them . them. And after the reveal of his plan ,Jack plan, Jack proceeds to do this to the Lufeanians, turning their own network against them by corrupting it, then using it to destory them. Accidentally destroy them and accidentally becoming a God in the process.]]
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* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the [=DLCs=] take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission.

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* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , game, and two of the the [=DLCs=] take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission.
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* NintendoHard: The first demo was incredibly challenging, with enemies able to plaster Jack in three hits if you let them. However, there is an easier difficulty with an optional casual setting that is able to be turned on.
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* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the DLCs take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission.

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* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the DLCs [=DLCs=] take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission.

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** The final [=DLC=] has its own alternate continuity branches [[spoiler: with Jack either fulfilling his role as he intended and dying to the Warrior of Light OR taking to the fight to the Lufeanians by himself and becoming the God of Discord with a Warrior of Light becoming the God of Harmony.]]

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** The final [=DLC=] has its own alternate continuity branches branch [[spoiler: with Jack either fulfilling his role as he intended and dying to the Warrior of Light OR after taking to the fight to the Lufeanians by himself and becoming the God of Discord with a Warrior of Light becoming the God of Harmony.]]



* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Jack manages to successfully overcome the Lufenians by stealing control of their GroundhogDayLoop and the darkness that let them unleash armies of monsters. In the process, he and the rest of his party are doomed to become the wicked knight Garland and the Four Fiends, who believe they must be a NecessaryEvil to both wipe out the rest of the Lufenians and train up a new group of Warriors who will purge the world of darkness. The game thus ends where it began, with Jack storming the Cornelia royal palace and kidnapping Sarah, having fully embraced [[ThenLetMeBeEvil his role as the villain]] to set the true Warriors of Light on [[TheHerosJourney their journey]], even pausing and waiting outside Cornelia until he sees [[RayOfHopeEnding four sunbeams draping over the capital city]]. Thankfully, the final DLC has two options for this with either Jack dying at the hands of the Warrior of Light similar to the original final fantasy storyline, breaking the cycle or Jack via taking a prompt from a Moogle becoming the God of Discord after killing the Lufeanians.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Jack manages to successfully overcome the Lufenians by stealing control of their GroundhogDayLoop and the darkness that let them unleash armies of monsters. In the process, he and the rest of his party are doomed to become the wicked knight Garland and the Four Fiends, who believe they must be a NecessaryEvil to both wipe out the rest of the Lufenians and train up a new group of Warriors who will purge the world of darkness. The game thus ends where it began, with Jack storming the Cornelia royal palace and kidnapping Sarah, having fully embraced [[ThenLetMeBeEvil his role as the villain]] to set the true Warriors of Light on [[TheHerosJourney their journey]], even pausing and waiting outside Cornelia until he sees [[RayOfHopeEnding four sunbeams draping over the capital city]]. Thankfully, the final DLC has two options for this with either the physical body of Jack dying at the hands of the Warrior of Light similar to the original final fantasy storyline, but this time breaking the cycle or Jack via taking a prompt from a Moogle having becoming the God of Discord after killing the Lufeanians.Lufeanian's before hand.]]



* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the DLCs take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission. Though the latter [=DLC=] has a different branch leading to another final fight location and enemy type.

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* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the DLCs take place in the Chaos Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission. Though the latter [=DLC=] has a different branch leading to another final fight location and enemy type.



* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Most of the non-Fiend bosses show up with no warning, such as the Chimera or the Iron Giant. This extends even to the DLC Bosses at times wiht the final boss of ''Wanderer of the Rift'' , a Death Machine, and alternate final Boss of ''Different future'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII The Emperor]], not being hinted in the narrative before their appearance.

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* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Most of the non-Fiend bosses show up with no warning, such as the Chimera or the Iron Giant. This extends even to the DLC Bosses at times wiht the final boss of ''Wanderer of the Rift'' , a Death Machine, and alternate first final Boss of ''Different future'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII The Emperor]], not being hinted in the narrative before their appearance.



** Narratively, Jack [[spoiler: does this in a few boss fights to finish them . And after the reveal of his plan ,Jack proceeds to do this to the Lufeanians, turning their own network against them by corrupting it, then using it to destory them. Accidentally becoming a God in the process.]]



** The entire game is also this, opening with Garland kidnapping Princess Sarah in the original ''Final Fantasy'' [[spoiler:before cutting back to the story of Garland's StartOfDarkness and going through the entire thing until finally ending on him waiting for the Warriors of Light in the Shrine of Chaos.]]

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** The entire game is also this, opening with Garland kidnapping Princess Sarah in the original ''Final Fantasy'' [[spoiler:before cutting back to the story of what initially appears to be Garland's StartOfDarkness and going through the entire thing until finally ending on him waiting for the Warriors of Light in the Shrine of Chaos.Chaos. The game's DLC capping it off by having Jack Garland be the final fight with the player controlling the Warrior of Light.]]



* INeedYouStronger: In the end, Jack becomes Chaos and his companions take up the mantles of the fiends, so they can train the Warriors of Light to eventually be strong enough to defend the world. The final segment has him repeatedly defeating the Warriors and urging them to become stronger for a rematch.

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* INeedYouStronger: In the end, Jack becomes Chaos and his companions take up the mantles of the fiends, so they can train the Warriors of Light to eventually be strong enough to defend the world. The final segment has him repeatedly defeating the Warriors and urging them to become stronger for a rematch. [[spoiler: An indeterminate amount of time later after becoming the God of Discord , he finally is defeated by the then player controlled , version of the Warrior.]]



* LaserGuidedKarma: A retroactive one for the original ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI''. [[spoiler:After all of their machinations in this game to create their ForeverWar, the Lufenians being stripped of their advanced society and forced into a humbling exile on the world below from the Flying Fortress thanks to Tiamat taking over is nothing but pure karma for what they did.]]

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* LaserGuidedKarma: A retroactive one One for the original ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI''. [[spoiler:After all of their machinations [[spoiler:with the Retcon reveal in this game game's universe of them using Cornelia to create their ForeverWar, the Lufenians being stripped of their advanced society and forced into a humbling exile on the world below from the Flying Fortress thanks to Tiamat taking over is nothing but pure karma for what they did.]]



* LiterallyShatteredLives: Depleting a standard enemy's Break Gauge downs them, giving Jack the opportunity to finish them off by crystallizing them and shattering them.

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* LiterallyShatteredLives: Depleting a standard enemy's Break Gauge downs them, giving Jack the opportunity to finish them off by crystallizing them and shattering them. This is also done at several times narratively to certain people who are dead or dying.



* MeaningfulEcho: At the end of the ''Different Future'' DLC, the final DLC of the game that brings the story to a close, [[spoiler:a variant on the ending narration of ''Final Fantasy'' is spoken, talking about heroes who crossed time to save the world, restored the power of light, and whose struggles have been forgotten by the people now that the time loop is broken. However, the montage accompanying the narration and slight tweaks to the wording frame it as being not about the four Warriors of Light, but Jack and his comrades.]]

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* MeaningfulEcho: At the end of the ''Different Future'' DLC, the final DLC of the game that brings the story to a close, [[spoiler:a variant on the ending narration of ''Final Fantasy'' is spoken, talking about heroes who crossed time to save the world, restored the power of light, and whose struggles have been forgotten by the people now that the time loop is broken. However, the montage accompanying the narration and slight tweaks to the wording frame it as being not about the four Warriors of Light, but Jack and his comrades. Though the emphasis on the "You" now has double meaning as when it'd said the game has a focus on both Garland's trademark mask and was originally meant to address the Player.]]



* MySignificanceSenseIsTingling: Jack continuously insists he can "feel" Chaos out there somewhere.

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* MySignificanceSenseIsTingling: Jack continuously insists he can "feel" Chaos out there somewhere. This becomes more meaningful as [[spoiler: his plan is to become Chaos, then after successfully doing so , accidentally becomes a God.]]



** The iconic image of Cornelia from the original ''Final Fantasy'' is the Warriors of Light standing on a hill looking across a body of water at the castle and surrounding environs. The second trailer ends with Garland, armor splattered with blood and Princess Sarah slung over his shoulder, walking over a similar hill ''away'' from Cornelia, with the shot even framed the same way as in ''Final Fantasy''. The final trailer recreates the same scene with Jack, Ash, Jed, and Neon as they leave Cornelia and pause to look back at it.

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** The iconic image of Cornelia from the original ''Final Fantasy'' is the Warriors of Light standing on a hill looking across a body of water at the castle and surrounding environs. The second trailer ends with Garland, armor splattered with blood and Princess Sarah slung over his shoulder, walking over a similar hill ''away'' from Cornelia, with the shot even framed the same way as in ''Final Fantasy''. The final trailer recreates the same scene with Jack, Ash, Jed, and Neon as they leave Cornelia and pause to look back at it. [[spoiler: This is then repeated in the game , once by the player characters then the traditional warriors of Light.]]


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** The last DLC has the final fight inverts this on the character's side while also expanding on the players side. [[spoiler: Now armed with all this information from the main game and DLC , the player must kill Jack's physical body as the Warrior of Light who only knows he has to Kill the embodiment of Chaos, Garland, with the warrior becoming a God in the process.]]

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** The final [=DLC=] has its own alternate continuity branches [[spoiler: with Jack either fulfilling his role as he intended and dying to the Warrior of Light OR taking to the fight to the Lufeanians by himself and becoming the God of Discord with a Warrior of Light becoming the God of Harmony.]]



* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Jack manages to successfully overcome the Lufenians by stealing control of their GroundhogDayLoop and the darkness that let them unleash armies of monsters. In the process, he and the rest of his party are doomed to become the wicked knight Garland and the Four Fiends, who believe they must be a NecessaryEvil to both wipe out the rest of the Lufenians and train up a new group of Warriors who will purge the world of darkness. The game thus ends where it began, with Jack storming the Cornelia royal palace and kidnapping Sarah, having fully embraced [[ThenLetMeBeEvil his role as the villain]] to set the true Warriors of Light on [[TheHerosJourney their journey]], even pausing and waiting outside Cornelia until he sees [[RayOfHopeEnding four sunbeams draping over the capital city]]. Thankfully, ''Final Fantasy I'' ends with Chaos being defeated for good and a version of Jack getting a happy ending, though this version will still be killed ''twice'' in the process.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Jack manages to successfully overcome the Lufenians by stealing control of their GroundhogDayLoop and the darkness that let them unleash armies of monsters. In the process, he and the rest of his party are doomed to become the wicked knight Garland and the Four Fiends, who believe they must be a NecessaryEvil to both wipe out the rest of the Lufenians and train up a new group of Warriors who will purge the world of darkness. The game thus ends where it began, with Jack storming the Cornelia royal palace and kidnapping Sarah, having fully embraced [[ThenLetMeBeEvil his role as the villain]] to set the true Warriors of Light on [[TheHerosJourney their journey]], even pausing and waiting outside Cornelia until he sees [[RayOfHopeEnding four sunbeams draping over the capital city]]. Thankfully, ''Final Fantasy I'' ends the final DLC has two options for this with Chaos being defeated for good and a version of either Jack getting a happy ending, though this version will still be killed ''twice'' in dying at the process.hands of the Warrior of Light similar to the original final fantasy storyline, breaking the cycle or Jack via taking a prompt from a Moogle becoming the God of Discord after killing the Lufeanians.]]



%% no citation * BloodlessCarnage: When Jack finishes off a Broken enemy, he crystalizes them before violently obliterating their body with force. If they exploded into a shower of gore instead of fine crystals, things would look a lot more like ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' instead.
* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the game take place in the Chaos Shrine.

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%% no citation * BloodlessCarnage: When Jack finishes off a Broken enemy, he crystalizes them before violently obliterating their body with force. If they exploded into a shower of gore instead of fine crimson crystals, things would look a lot more like ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' instead.
* {{Bookends}}: The first and the last story mission of the base game , and two of the the DLCs take place in the Chaos Shrine.Shrine. In the case of two of the DLC you even fight against an armored swordman trying to kill you just like the first story Mission. Though the latter [=DLC=] has a different branch leading to another final fight location and enemy type.



* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Most of the non-Fiend bosses show up with no warning, such as the Chimera or the Iron Giant.

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* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Most of the non-Fiend bosses show up with no warning, such as the Chimera or the Iron Giant. This extends even to the DLC Bosses at times wiht the final boss of ''Wanderer of the Rift'' , a Death Machine, and alternate final Boss of ''Different future'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII The Emperor]], not being hinted in the narrative before their appearance.



* HaveANiceDeath: If you lose the TrueFinalBoss fight of "Different Future", [[spoiler:Jack taunts you and says he'll be looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years]].

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* HaveANiceDeath: If you lose the TrueFinalBoss fight of "Different Future", [[spoiler:Jack Future" where you face [[spoiler:Jack, he will taunts you and says he'll be looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years]].
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* HeroesPreferSwords: While Jack can use a variety of different weapons, the game starts him off as a Swordsman wielding a [[{{BFS}} greatsword]] if starting a New Game (on NewGamePlus runs, you start with the equipment you last had on after fighting the boss). Fittingly, he is both the protagonist and the apparent leader of his team.

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* HeroesPreferSwords: While Jack can use a variety of different weapons, the game starts him off as a Swordsman wielding a [[{{BFS}} greatsword]] if starting a New Game (on NewGamePlus runs, you start with the equipment you last had on after fighting the boss). Fittingly, he is both the protagonist and the apparent leader of his team. The trope is also subverted; in cutscenes, Jack always fights with his fists and executions are always perfomed without Jack using his equipped weapon.
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** Jack's friends sometimes make comments that make no sense in context, like saying "Jack's back" after a fight without it being clear what it means, something Jack sometimes is confused by. It easily can seem like some nonsense, but the reveal the others [[spoiler:have some vague memory of Jack's plan and goals make it clear they remember Jack in some form, and are commenting on the vague history they can recall]]. Jack even comments on this at the end of the game, realizing they knew he [[spoiler:was going to become Chaos, which they all admit to having some vague memory of being the goal]].
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** The fact nobody knows who Garland is becomes one, as Garland's role in the original game was an important event, yet nobody except Princess Sarah is aware he exists. [[spoiler:This hints the game isn't just a remake, but that something is off with the timeline, as Sarah knowing about a person named Garland shouldn't be possible]].
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The game was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzueiImWiHA unveiled]] at Creator/SquareEnix's [[UsefulNotes/E3InThe2020s E3 2021]] presentation and had three different demos leading up to release for feedback and advertising purposes, including one less than a week before the full release with save transfers. The full game was released for UsefulNotes/PlayStation5, UsefulNotes/XboxSeriesXAndS, UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, and PC on March 15, 2022 for console pre-orders and March 18 for everyone else.

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The game was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzueiImWiHA unveiled]] at Creator/SquareEnix's [[UsefulNotes/E3InThe2020s E3 2021]] presentation and had three different demos leading up to release for feedback and advertising purposes, including one less than a week before the full release with save transfers. The full game was released for UsefulNotes/PlayStation5, UsefulNotes/XboxSeriesXAndS, UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, Platform/PlayStation5, Platform/XboxSeriesXAndS, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/XboxOne, and PC on March 15, 2022 for console pre-orders and March 18 for everyone else.
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''Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin'' is an ActionRPG developed by Team Ninja of ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden'' and ''VideoGame/{{Nioh}}'' fame, a spin-off of the [[RunningGag shin-splinteringly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Set during an earlier version of the eventual StableTimeLoop from the first ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'', the story follows five disparate adventurers, led by a man named Jack, attempting to fulfill the Warrior of Light prophecy to vanquish the fabled source of all darkness, Chaos, and in the process restore the corrupted Crystals that once brought peace and prosperity to the lands. However, it quickly becomes clear that Chaos and his allies the Four Fiends do not yet exist as we knew them in ''Final Fantasy'', and the path our heroes find themselves on is an altogether darker one...

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''Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin'' is an ActionRPG developed by Team Ninja of ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden'' and ''VideoGame/{{Nioh}}'' fame, a spin-off of the [[RunningGag shin-splinteringly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Set during an earlier [[AlternateContinuity alternate]] version of the eventual StableTimeLoop from the first ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'', the story follows five disparate adventurers, led by a man named Jack, attempting to fulfill the Warrior of Light prophecy to vanquish the fabled source of all darkness, Chaos, and in the process restore the corrupted Crystals that once brought peace and prosperity to the lands. However, it quickly becomes clear that Chaos and his allies the Four Fiends do not yet exist as we knew them in ''Final Fantasy'', and the path our heroes find themselves on is an altogether darker one...

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