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An early StrategyRPG made by Squaresoft (now Creator/SquareEnix) for UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom and [[NoExportForYou released only in Japan]] in 1996.

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An early StrategyRPG made by Squaresoft (now Creator/SquareEnix) for UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom Platform/SuperFamicom and [[NoExportForYou released only in Japan]] in 1996.

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* AbductionIsLove: Palpaleos kidnaps Princess Yoyo, [[spoiler: and then they fall in love.]]

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* AbductionIsLove: Palpaleos kidnaps was amongst the Imperials that kidnap Princess Yoyo, [[spoiler: and then they fall in love.love, since he was nice to her.]]



*TeethClenchedTeamwork: There's constant in-fighting with some of the rebels, Don Juan's constantly falling for the nearest woman, and not to mention the LoveTriangle that involves an enemy general [[spoiler:working with the rebels...]]



%%* TokenMiniMoe: Melodia.
* UncertainDoom: During the ending sequence, [[spoiler:Palpaleos is attacked by two ruffians who blame him for the war. However, the next scene shows Yoyo waking up from a nightmare, making Palpaleos' fate ambiguous.]]

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%%* * TokenMiniMoe: Melodia.
Melodia, the youngest of the rebels.
* UncertainDoom: During the ending sequence, [[spoiler:Palpaleos is attacked by two ruffians of his countrymen who blame him for the war. However, the next scene shows Yoyo waking up from a nightmare, making Palpaleos' fate ambiguous.]]



* UnsoundEffect: The "weird noises" that seem to pop up spontaneously during dialogue seem to indicate arousal (Don Juan's trademark "boing" sound, natch), scheming (Ectarina's), and spitefulness (Mist).

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*UnreliableNarrator: In spades. Due to Byuu being a SupportingProtagonist, generally being silent and his dialogue being up to the player, the LoveTriangle problems, and a short epilogue, we don't get a coherent narrative in general.
* UnsoundEffect: The "weird noises" that seem to pop up spontaneously during dialogue seem to indicate arousal (Don Juan's trademark "boing" sound, natch), scheming (Ectarina's), (Ekatarina's), and spitefulness (Mist).

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Bonus Boss is a disambiguation


* BonusBoss: The game has special "side quests" - essentially single battles - available throughout the game. One of them, appropriately named Hard Dungeon, is only available in the last seven chapters and is far more difficult than the final boss.


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* {{Superboss}}: The game has special "side quests" - essentially single battles - available throughout the game. One of them, appropriately named Hard Dungeon, is only available in the last seven chapters and is far more difficult than the final boss.
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''Bahamut Lagoon'' is notable for having very pretty graphics, being one of the last Squaresoft games to be released for the Super Nintendo. It's ''also'' notable for having quite explicit sexual content (though primarily in dialogue) and an openly gay (if very stereotyped) old wizard as one of its main characters.

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''Bahamut Lagoon'' is notable for having very pretty graphics, being one of the last Squaresoft games to be released for the Super Nintendo. It's ''also'' notable for having quite explicit sexual content (though primarily in dialogue) and an openly gay (if very stereotyped) old wizard warlock as one of its main characters.
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* ImprobableWeaponUser: While not having specific characters with improbable weapons, it does have various items that all characters can throw to cause damage or status effects. These items include Sweet Memory, Porno Mag, and Botched Cookie.

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* ImprobableWeaponUser: While not having specific characters with improbable weapons, it does have various items that all characters can throw to cause damage or status effects. These items include Sweet Memory, Porno Mag, Erotic Book, and Botched Cookie.[[LethalChef Burnt Cookie]].
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The dragon whose name starts with 'V' is actually Valitra/Vritra


The game includes much of the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' feel and characteristics, including spell names and the names of the dragons: Bahamut, Alexander, Leviathan, and Valefor, to name a few. It directly influenced ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'': the plot structures and several key characters of the two games are very similar.

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The game includes much of the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' feel and characteristics, including spell names and the names of the dragons: Bahamut, Alexander, Leviathan, and Valefor, Garuda, to name a few. It directly influenced ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'': the plot structures and several key characters of the two games are very similar.
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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons. It also [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. Thus, he he dies when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.

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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons. It also [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. Thus, he he dies when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.
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The game is set in the sky world of Orelus, and follows HeroicMime Byuu as he leads the [[LaResistance The Resistance]] against the [[TheEmpire Granvelos Empire]]. Along the way, he rescues his childhood sweetheart, Princess Yoyo. The princess, a summoner, has the ability to communicate with the Holy Dragons and use their powers in battle. The heroes attempt to collect their power to use against the empire, while Emperor Sauthar attempts to gather them for himself. Their battle against the Empire and the greater threat it unleashes range all across the sky and even into the world of origin for the dragons themselves. And Yoyo's experiences with the Empire weren't all negative...

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The game is set in the sky world of Orelus, and follows HeroicMime Byuu as he leads the [[LaResistance The Resistance]] against the [[TheEmpire Granvelos Empire]]. Along the way, he rescues his childhood sweetheart, Princess Yoyo. The princess, a summoner, descendant of the legendary Dragnar, has the ability to communicate with the Holy Divine Dragons and use their powers in battle. The heroes attempt to collect their power to use against the empire, while Emperor Sauthar attempts to gather them for himself. Their battle against the Empire and the greater threat it unleashes range all across the sky and even into the world of origin for the dragons themselves. And Yoyo's experiences with the Empire weren't all negative...
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By TRS decision Whip It Good is now a disambiguation page. Moving entries to appropriate tropes when possible.


* WhipItGood: Barbarella's weapon of choice.
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The latest translations now have it as 'Fredrika.' That's why some of the names may seem 'off' here, since I'm going off the latest ROM. Still, glad to have another troper helping with this page!


* AerithAndBob: There's Jeanne, Joy, Diana, Anastasia and Frederica, which is rather uncommon but actual names...and then there's Bikkebakke, Nelbo, and Yoyo, which nearly no man would name their child...

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* AerithAndBob: There's Jeanne, Joy, Diana, Anastasia and Frederica, Frederika, which is rather uncommon but actual names...and then there's Bikkebakke, Nelbo, and Yoyo, which nearly no man would name their child...



* FunctionalAddict: Frederica and Bikkebakke experiment with what should be healing items and mushrooms respectively. While Frederica's addiction and hypochondria sideline her outside of combat, when she needs to do her job as an attendant at the castle or as a warrior and healer during warfare, she takes medications that briefly keep her healthy enough to be useful.

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* FunctionalAddict: Frederica Frederika and Bikkebakke experiment with what should be healing items and mushrooms respectively. While Frederica's Frederika's addiction and hypochondria sideline her outside of combat, when she needs to do her job as an attendant at the castle or as a warrior and healer during warfare, she takes medications that briefly keep her healthy enough to be useful.
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*WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: If Byuu's party falls, the game is over. Which is egregious, as he's merely a SupportingProtagonist, you'd think the princess' death would demoralise everyone.
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* GayOption: You can choose to have Byuu be interested in Sendak instead of Yoyo. [[spoiler:Which is for the best anyway, since ''that scene'' Chapter 14...]]

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* GayOption: You can choose to have Byuu be interested in Sendak instead of Yoyo. [[spoiler:Which is for the best anyway, since ''that scene'' Chapter 14...scene''...]]

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''Bahamut Lagoon'' is notable for having very pretty graphics, being one of the last Squaresoft games to be released for the Super Nintendo. It's ''also'' notable for having quite explicit sexual content (though primarily in dialogue) and an openly gay old wizard as one of its main characters.

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''Bahamut Lagoon'' is notable for having very pretty graphics, being one of the last Squaresoft games to be released for the Super Nintendo. It's ''also'' notable for having quite explicit sexual content (though primarily in dialogue) and an openly gay (if very stereotyped) old wizard as one of its main characters.



*AerithAndBob: There's Jeanne, Joy, Diana, Anastasia and Frederica, which is rather uncommon but actual names...and then there's Bikkebakke, Nelbo, and Yoyo, which nearly no man would name their child...



* FragileSpeedster: The Light Armor Warriors Lukia, Jeanne and Mist. The Ninjas are also rather squishy.
* FunctionalAddict: Frederika and Bikkebakke experiment with what should be healing items and mushrooms respectively. While Frederika's addiction and hypochondria sideline her outside of combat, when she needs to do her job as an attendant at the castle or as a warrior and healer during warfare, she takes medications that briefly keep her healthy enough to be useful.
* GayOption: You can choose to have Byuu be interested in Sendak instead of Yoyo.

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* FragileSpeedster: The Light Armor Warriors Lukia, Jeanne and Mist. The Ninjas Assassins are also rather squishy.
* FunctionalAddict: Frederika Frederica and Bikkebakke experiment with what should be healing items and mushrooms respectively. While Frederika's Frederica's addiction and hypochondria sideline her outside of combat, when she needs to do her job as an attendant at the castle or as a warrior and healer during warfare, she takes medications that briefly keep her healthy enough to be useful.
* GayOption: You can choose to have Byuu be interested in Sendak instead of Yoyo. [[spoiler:Which is for the best anyway, since ''that scene'' Chapter 14...]]



* HeelFaceTurn: A soldier from the Emmpire, [[spoiler:Palpaleos,]] joins the resistance midway through the story, [[spoiler:in large part due to his love for Princess Yoyo]].

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* HeelFaceTurn: A soldier from the Emmpire, Empire, [[spoiler:Palpaleos,]] joins the resistance midway through the story, [[spoiler:in large part due to his love for Princess Yoyo]].
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** Ranging out mages whose AI dictates they use field attacks is also made trivial for much the same reason as listed above. Enemy mages will never take into account the range bands of their spells, and will only make an attempt to cast a spell on a party if they can get the cursor dead-center on the character. This means you can safely have mages occupy the area just outside of a mage's blast radius and run in on the subsequent turn to get your spells off first.
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: A major issue for the rebel army once they make their move to liberate the various nations of Orelus from Granvelos' control is that many of the nations ''don't want'' to be liberated, which shocks the party when the first nation they liberate, Campbell, effectively offers itself back to the Empire and politely asks the rebels to leave. The prevailing reason behind this is that, though he was unpopular during the actual unification war, Emperor Sauthar benefited from a massive spike in popularity once he won, unified Orelus, and put a stop to any and all warfare. Any nation that wanted to keep their independence was allowed to do so provided a Granvelosian military presence was permitted nearby, and anyone that swore fealty was rewarded with support and aid from Granvelos. The only nations that explicitly welcome the rebels as a result are Maharl - a shadow of its former self, existing only because of a few rebel fights - and Kahna itself.

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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: A major issue for the rebel army once they make their move to liberate the various nations of Orelus from Granvelos' control is that many of the nations ''don't want'' to be liberated, which shocks the party when the first nation they liberate, Campbell, effectively offers itself back to the Empire and politely asks the rebels to leave. The prevailing reason behind this is that, though he was unpopular during the actual unification war, Emperor Sauthar benefited from a massive spike in popularity once he won, unified Orelus, and put a stop to any and all warfare. Any nation that wanted to keep their independence was allowed to do so provided a Granvelosian military presence was permitted nearby, and anyone that swore fealty was rewarded with support and aid from Granvelos. The only nations that explicitly welcome the rebels as a result are Maharl - a shadow of its former self, existing only because of a few rebel fights fighters - and Kahna itself.
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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons. It also [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.

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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons. It also [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death Thus, he he dies when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.
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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.

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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and Lagoons. It also [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.
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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''']] This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.

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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.]]''']] ]]''' This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.
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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively '''won his war.''']] This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.

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* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively '''won effectively]] '''[[TheBadGuyWins won his war.''']] ]]''']] This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The dragonites of Altair were suffering under Alexander's rule, but the only reason the Door to a New Age opens and lets monsters into Orelus is because Valitra, Leviathan, Garuda, and Jormungandr try to open it early when Yoyo contains them in her head as a means to oppose the Granvelos Empire. Had Sauthar not brought Yoyo to Campbell - or, more saliently, had he simply been satisfied with ruling the world, the rebel forces would have likely lost and Altair would never have become a problem, as the Divine Dragons could only impotently rage without a Dragnar to act as an extension of their power.

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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The dragonites of Altair were suffering under Alexander's rule, but the only reason the Door to a New Age opens and lets monsters into Orelus is because Valitra, Leviathan, Garuda, and Jormungandr try to open it early when Yoyo contains them in her head as a means to oppose the Granvelos Empire. Had Sauthar not brought Yoyo to Campbell - or, more saliently, had he simply been satisfied with ruling the world, world - the rebel forces would have likely lost and Altair would never have become a problem, as the Divine Dragons could only impotently rage without a Dragnar to act as an extension of their power.

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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The dragonites of Altair were suffering under Alexander's rule, but the only reason the Door to a New Age opens and lets monsters into Orelus is because Valitra, Leviathan, Garuda, and Jormungandr try to open it early when Yoyo contains them in her head as a means to oppose the Granvelos Empire. Had Sauthar not brought Yoyo to Campbell - or, more saliently, had he simply been satisfied with ruling the world, the rebel forces would have likely lost and Altair would never have become a problem, as the Divine Dragons could only impotently rage without a Dragnar to act as an extension of their power.



* FatalFlaw: For Sauthar, ambition and an inability to stop while he's ahead. The plot literally only happens because Sauthar isn't satisfied with ruling the world, despite being a popular leader with only two ''incredibly'' small rebel cells opposing him. [[TheBadGuyWins He'd already effectively '''won his war.''']] This ends up costing him ''everything'' because it leads him to seek more power from the Divine Dragons, which ends up causing him to blunder Yoyo into the hands of the Kahna resistance, which bolsters their efforts and gives them the force necessary to start taking back Lagoons, and [[spoiler:directly leads to his death once he makes a pact with monsters to gain the same powers Yoyo has; his powers aren't as potent and he has serious 'weaknesses in his heart' such as doubt and fear as a result of doing so, which the the Divine Dragons don't respond well to, causing Sauthar to become wracked with terrible illnesses that leave him a shell of his former self. This directly leads to his death when he helps Yoyo contain Hyperion, as the power of even one Divine Dragon swiftly worsens his condition and kills him.]] Really, he would have had everything had he simply been an OrcusOnHisThrone.



* NeverASelfMadeWoman: A dialog option late into the game, following Yoyo's CharacterDevelopment, can have Byuu admit he feels Yoyo's growth into a strong, able queen is largely a result of her love for Palpaleos and the support he gives her - basically functioning as a source of courage. Yoyo neither confirms or denies this assertion, and it's left up to the player to decide whether or not Byuu is correct; while Palpaleos does teach Yoyo wartime strategy, Yoyo goes through quite a bit of growth well before Palpaleos joins the party, and Yoyo was heading to Kahna Castle to legitimize her rule and retake her nation just before she ran into and recruited Palpaleos.

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* NeverASelfMadeWoman: A dialog option late into the game, following Yoyo's CharacterDevelopment, can have Byuu admit he feels Yoyo's growth into a strong, able queen is largely a result of her love for Palpaleos and the support he gives her - basically functioning as a source of courage. Yoyo neither confirms or nor denies this assertion, and it's left up to the player to decide whether or not Byuu is correct; while Palpaleos does teach Yoyo wartime strategy, Yoyo goes through quite a bit of growth well before Palpaleos joins the party, and Yoyo was heading to Kahna Castle to legitimize her rule and retake her nation just before she ran into and recruited Palpaleos.


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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Effectively the entire plot hinged on Sauthar trying to awaken the Divine Dragons just because he wasn't satisfied with already conquering the world. If not for this choice, the rebel army would have never succeeded - Yoyo would have been killed because she's useless as an asset to Sauthar otherwise, or at least never brought to Campbell to awaken Valitra, and as a result the rebel forces from Kahna would have never recovered their leader. Sauthar also would have been able to put down the rebel forces entirely on his own - the only thing that stopped him from pulling a fait accompli and ending the resistance by his own hand in Campbell was Valitra waking up and knocking him out. The trope is almost exaggerated, because Sauthar pointlessly playing with the main cast and beating them up slowly forced Yoyo to awaken her powers as a Dragnar, which end up allowing her to call upon the powers of the Divine Dragons and unravel the Granvelos Empire.

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* WhatTheHellHero: Played for humor (sort of). Byuu gets called out on the torture of an enemy soldier if the player chooses to do so. [[ButThouMust Not that the player has any real choice there.]]

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* WhatTheHellHero: This unfortunately happens with some degree of regularity, largely outside the player's control - or worse, when the player has the illusion of control.
** A flashback involves Byuu sneaking Yoyo out of the castle to go on a joyride with a dragon. Matelite is left irate.
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Played for humor (sort of).of) at one point. Byuu gets called out on the torture of an enemy soldier if the player chooses to do so. [[ButThouMust Not that the player has any real choice there.]]]]
** Following the awakening of Garuda, Rush has a childish moment of surliness and locks Matelite out of the ship's entry. He strings Byuu along with shopping and feeding the dragons while Matelite is literally left sobbing at how cruel the party is being to him for no reason. You ''cannot'' open the door or shout Rush down for this, and it nearly results in Rush and Byuu getting killed when monsters invade the flight deck. This briefly precludes Byuu and Rush from any further strategic meetings with Yoyo, which can sting for the player given how they had no control of the situation.
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* VideoGameCaringPotential: Between battles, the player is generally given an opportunity to explore around the ship and chat with the party. Byuu can help crewmembers find love, reassure them when they're down, take care to check in on Sendak and Yoyo even when it isn't required, and protect a few crew members from a terrible fate by not involving them in dangerous reconnaissance mission. Nothing is gained or lost as a result of any of this - these opportunities simply exist to allow the player to bring positivity and light to otherwise grim situations.

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* VideoGameCaringPotential: Between battles, the player is generally given an opportunity to explore around the ship and chat with the party. Byuu can help crewmembers find love, reassure them when they're down, take care to check in on Sendak and Yoyo even when it isn't required, and protect a few crew members from a terrible fate by not involving them in a dangerous reconnaissance mission. Nothing is gained or lost as a result of any of this - these opportunities simply exist to allow the player to bring positivity and light to otherwise grim situations.
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* VideoGameCaringPotential: Between battles, the player is generally given an opportunity to explore around the ship and chat with the party. Byuu can help crewmembers find love, reassure them when they're down, take care to check in on Sendak and Yoyo even when it isn't required, and protect a few crew members from a terrible fate by not involving them in dangerous reconnaissance mission. Nothing is gained or lost as a result of any of this - these opportunities simply exist to allow the player to bring positivity and light to otherwise grim situations.

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