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* A ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' hero was quite expected, due to being a big franchise in Japan, as well as being a generally well-known and revolutionary franchise that has [[VideoGame/ItadakiStreet collaborated with Nintendo in other games in the past]] (that, and the fact that there was a leak suggesting it would happen). What people DIDN'T expect was that, like Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings above, there are going to be ''multiple Dragon Quest'' heroes [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIII from]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV four]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII different]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI titles]]; prior to E3, everyone just assumed that it would either be just Arusu/the Erdrick (one of the heroes in question and easily the most iconic), his [[VIdeoGame/DragonQuestI descendant]] (the first hero), or Eleven/the Luminary (the main hero, and the most recent). While we do get Eleven as the main playable hero, we also get Arusu as an alternate costume, along with [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV Solo]] and [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII Eight]][[note]]the latter of whom Sakurai personally picked because he figured those in the west would recognize him the most[[/note]]. Sure, they're alternate costumes so they play the exact same, but it's surprising nonetheless. And to top it off, the remaining '''SEVEN''' heroes appears in the Final Smash.

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* A ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' hero was quite expected, due to being a big franchise in Japan, as well as being a generally well-known and revolutionary franchise that has [[VideoGame/ItadakiStreet collaborated with Nintendo in other games in the past]] (that, and the fact that there was a leak suggesting it would happen). What people DIDN'T expect was that, like Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings above, there are going to be ''multiple Dragon Quest'' heroes [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIII from]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV four]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII different]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI titles]]; prior to E3, everyone just assumed that it would either be just Arusu/the Erdrick (one of the heroes in question and easily the most iconic), his [[VIdeoGame/DragonQuestI descendant]] (the first hero), or Eleven/the Luminary (the main hero, and the most recent). While we do get Eleven as the main playable hero, we also get Arusu as an alternate costume, along with [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV Solo]] and [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII Eight]][[note]]the latter of whom Sakurai personally picked because he figured those in the west would recognize him the most[[/note]]. Sure, they're alternate costumes so they play the exact same, but it's surprising nonetheless. And to top it off, the remaining '''SEVEN''' seven heroes appears appear in the Final Smash.Smash for anyone lamenting their lack of playability.


** [[MirrorMatch Dark Pit]]: While [[VideoGame/KidIcarus Palutena]] was a popular inclusion for ''Super Smash Bros.'' thanks to the release of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'', and [[EmbarrassingNickname Pittoo]] was an EnsembleDarkhorse in his debut game (as well as shown in Palutena's trailer), the latter was somewhat unexpected as a proper newcomer as many were expecting him to be, like Dr. Mario above, an updated PaletteSwap of his light counterpart.
** [[OverlordJr Bowser Jr.]]: Somewhat downplayed, as Jr. had already made a name for himself in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series of games, as well as discussed for a potential newcomer, even if both another addition to the already bloated ''Mario'' cast and him using the [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros Junior Clown Car]] still came as a bit of a surprise. The ''actual'' shocker, however, was that all of Bowser Jr's {{Palette Swap}}s were none other than the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Koopalings]], technically making the character eight newcomers at once.
** [[{{Troll}} Duck Hunt]]: Perhaps the '''BIGGEST''' shocker regarding the leak was the fact that very few ('''if any''') players expected the dog and a duck from ''VideoGame/DuckHunt'' to team up with an in-universe (and offscreen) player with an NES Zapper as one character, especially given the dog's status as TheScrappy of gaming. Many even used Duck Hunt's presence as "proof" ''against'' the leak because the idea just sounded '''that''' absurd.

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** [[MirrorMatch [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Dark Pit]]: While [[VideoGame/KidIcarus Palutena]] Palutena was a popular inclusion for ''Super Smash Bros.'' thanks to the release of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'', ''Uprising'', and [[EmbarrassingNickname Pittoo]] was an EnsembleDarkhorse in his debut game (as well as shown in Palutena's trailer), the latter was somewhat unexpected as a proper newcomer as many were expecting him to be, like Dr. Mario above, an updated PaletteSwap of his light counterpart.
** [[OverlordJr [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser Jr.]]: Somewhat downplayed, as Jr. had already made a name for himself in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series of games, his home series, as well as discussed for a potential newcomer, even if both another addition to the already bloated ''Mario'' cast and him using the [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros Junior Clown Car]] still came as a bit of a surprise. The ''actual'' shocker, however, was that all of Bowser Jr's {{Palette Swap}}s were none other than the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Koopalings]], technically making the character eight newcomers at once.
** [[{{Troll}} Duck Hunt]]: VideoGame/DuckHunt: Perhaps the '''BIGGEST''' shocker regarding the leak was the fact that very few ('''if any''') players expected the dog and a duck from ''VideoGame/DuckHunt'' ''Duck Hunt'' to team up with an in-universe (and offscreen) player with an NES Zapper as one character, especially given the dog's status as TheScrappy of gaming. Many even used Duck Hunt's presence as "proof" ''against'' the leak because the idea just sounded '''that''' absurd.



* It's probably safe to say that ''nobody'' guessed that a [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Piranha Plant]] [[FoulFlower of all things]] would become playable. It was so unbelievable that when it was shown on the November Direct, many people initially thought it was an Assist Trophy or a joke. Notable in that, unlike other {{mook}}s such as Goombas, Koopas, Boos, and even Chain Chomps, Piranha Plants have ''never been playable'' up until this point (unless one counts [[KingMook Petey Piranha]], but unlike the standard plant, Petey actually had legs). ''How'' it got made into a character was also unexpected, taking features of other Piranha Plant subspecies across the franchise (including a nod to the [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome long-forgotten]] [[VideoGame/PaperMario Putrid Piranha]]) to make a fully capable fighter. Like the Wii Fit Trainer above, the Piranha Plant's inclusion garnered an IntendedAudienceReaction as it was a pre-order bonus made purely for fun, and even Sakurai himself had to clarify that this was real.

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* It's probably safe to say that ''nobody'' guessed that a [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Piranha Plant]] regular {{mook}} from the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series would become playable, let alone a regular [[FoulFlower of all things]] would become playable.Piranha Plant]]. It was so unbelievable that when it was shown on the November Direct, many people initially thought it was an Assist Trophy or a joke. Notable in that, unlike other {{mook}}s common enemies such as Goombas, Koopas, Boos, and even Chain Chomps, Piranha Plants have ''never been playable'' up until this point (unless one counts [[KingMook Petey Piranha]], but unlike the standard plant, Petey actually had legs). ''How'' it got made into a character was also unexpected, taking features of other Piranha Plant subspecies across the franchise (including a nod to the [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome long-forgotten]] [[VideoGame/PaperMario Putrid Piranha]]) to make a fully capable fighter. Like the Wii Fit Trainer above, the Piranha Plant's inclusion garnered an IntendedAudienceReaction as it was a pre-order bonus made purely for fun, and even Sakurai himself had to clarify that this was real.


* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 7[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. Considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], the assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]] to round out the starter triad. Not to mention, it was playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''; that and a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire starter, the [[DarkIsNotEvil Fire/Dark]] type [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.

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* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 7[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. Considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], the assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]] to round out the starter triad. Not to mention, mention that it was playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''; that ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'', and a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire starter, the [[DarkIsNotEvil Fire/Dark]] type [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.


* A ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' hero was quite expected, due to being a big franchise in Japan, as well as being a generally well-known and revolutionary franchise that has [[VideoGame/ItadakiStreet collaborated with Nintendo in other games in the past]] (that, and the fact that there was a leak suggesting it would happen). What people DIDN'T expect was that, like Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings above, there are going to be ''multiple Dragon Quest'' heroes [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIII from]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV four]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII different]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI titles]]; prior to E3, everyone just assumed that it would either be just Arusu/the Erdrick (one of the heroes in question and easily the most iconic), his [[VIdeoGame/DragonQuestI descendant]] (the first hero), or Eleven/the Luminary (the main hero, and the most recent). While we do get Eleven as the main playable hero, we also get Arusu as an alternate costume, along with [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV Solo]] and [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII Eight]][[note]]the latter of whom Sakurai personally picked because he figured those in the west would recognize him the most[[/note]]. Sure, they're alternate costumes so they play the exact same, but it's surprising nonetheless. And to top it off, '''EVERY''' hero appears in the Final Smash.

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* A ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' hero was quite expected, due to being a big franchise in Japan, as well as being a generally well-known and revolutionary franchise that has [[VideoGame/ItadakiStreet collaborated with Nintendo in other games in the past]] (that, and the fact that there was a leak suggesting it would happen). What people DIDN'T expect was that, like Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings above, there are going to be ''multiple Dragon Quest'' heroes [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIII from]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV four]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII different]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestXI titles]]; prior to E3, everyone just assumed that it would either be just Arusu/the Erdrick (one of the heroes in question and easily the most iconic), his [[VIdeoGame/DragonQuestI descendant]] (the first hero), or Eleven/the Luminary (the main hero, and the most recent). While we do get Eleven as the main playable hero, we also get Arusu as an alternate costume, along with [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV Solo]] and [[VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII Eight]][[note]]the latter of whom Sakurai personally picked because he figured those in the west would recognize him the most[[/note]]. Sure, they're alternate costumes so they play the exact same, but it's surprising nonetheless. And to top it off, '''EVERY''' hero the remaining '''SEVEN''' heroes appears in the Final Smash.


* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire starter, the [[DarkIsNotEvil Fire/Dark]] type [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.

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* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]], 7[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering Considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not the assumed newcomer was thought to mention its be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]] to round out the starter triad. Not to mention, it was playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''; that and a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire starter, the [[DarkIsNotEvil Fire/Dark]] type [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.


* In terms of downloadable Mii Costumes, Gilgamesh (Gil) from Namco's ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga'' series was the most unexpected of the bunch. His games, while it has a minor cult following and is often referenced by the company's other games, aren't very well-known by the gaming public, especially in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' community. He also stands out among the rest of the Wave 6 costumes which consist of highly requested characters such as [[VideoGame/WarioWare Ashley]], [[VideoGame/TheMysteriousMurasameCastle Takamaru]], [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Tails and Knuckles]].

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* In terms of downloadable Mii Costumes, Gilgamesh (Gil) from Namco's ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga'' series was the most unexpected of the bunch. His games, while it has they have a minor cult following and is often referenced by the company's other games, aren't very well-known by the gaming public, especially in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' community. He also stands out among the rest of the Wave 6 costumes which consist of highly requested characters such as [[VideoGame/WarioWare Ashley]], [[VideoGame/TheMysteriousMurasameCastle Takamaru]], [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Tails and Knuckles]].



* Many, many people thought Snake wasn't going to return to Smash ever, especially when Creator/HideoKojima left Creator/{{Konami}}. So when Sakurai showed the trailer of returning characters, everyone was shocked when Snake appeared, immediately followed by the words '''EVERYONE IS HERE'''. It's safe to say no-one expected ''every'' character to return.



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* In terms of downloadable Mii Costumes, Gilgamesh (Gil) from Namco's ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga'' series was the most unexpected of the bunch. His games, while it has a minor cult following and is often referenced by the company's other games, aren't very well-known by the gaming public, especially in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' community. He also stands out among the rest of the Wave 6 costumes which consist of highly requested characters such as [[VideoGame/WarioWare Ashley]], [[VideoGame/TheMysteriousMurasameCastle Takamaru]], [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Tails and Knuckles]].


* During the Version 5.0.0 trailer's introduction of new Mii Costumes, the roster ''at first'' was standard fare, with the majority being returning Mii Costumes from the previous game and new ones, one of the latter for the Mii Gunner single-handedly blasted the internet. Who? None other than [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Sans]], complete with ''Megalovania'' as a bonus track. Though [[BreakoutCharacter his popularity in an already well-known game]] is undeniable, and he was a popular request for the game, many people brushed it off as another meme request like [[Franchise/DragonBall Goku]] and WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}. Many also assumed he wouldn't get acknowledged before Frisk, the game's protagonist, as his existence as the TrueFinalBoss of the No Mercy/Genocide run is a WalkingSpoiler in and of itself[[note]]Although at this point, it's a case of ItWasHisSled, not to mention Frisk's name shares the trope with Sans' boss fight[[/note]].

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* During the Version 5.0.0 trailer's introduction of new Mii Costumes, the roster ''at first'' was standard fare, with the majority being returning Mii Costumes from the previous game and new ones, one of the latter for the Mii Gunner single-handedly blasted the internet. Who? None other than [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Sans]], complete with ''Megalovania'' as a bonus track. Though [[BreakoutCharacter his popularity in an already well-known game]] is undeniable, and he was a popular request for the game, many people brushed it off as another meme request like [[Franchise/DragonBall Goku]] and WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}.WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}[[note]]Though it should be noted that, unlike those two, Sans actually originates from a video game.[[/note]]. Many also assumed he wouldn't get acknowledged before Frisk, the game's protagonist, as his existence as the TrueFinalBoss of the No Mercy/Genocide run is a WalkingSpoiler in and of itself[[note]]Although at this point, it's a case of ItWasHisSled, not to mention Frisk's name shares the trope with Sans' boss fight[[/note]].


* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when dual-type Fire/Dark Pokémon, [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.

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* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when dual-type Fire/Dark Pokémon, ''another'' fire starter, the [[DarkIsNotEvil Fire/Dark]] type [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.

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** On a related ''Castlevania'' note, [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaIIIDraculasCurse Alucard]] (who was already in as an Assist Trophy) is the one to interact with the ''VideoGame/KidIcarus'' cast in the Palutena's Guidance for Richter. The reasons why this is so surprising is that not only did fans expect Snake to do so instead, Alucard isn't known for breaking the fourth wall. [[note]]The only exception being an EasterEgg for ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight'' that can only be accessed if one tries to use that game on a CD player.[[/note]]

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* Many, many people thought Snake wasn't going to return to Smash ever, especially when Creator/HideoKojima left Creator/{{Konami}}. So when Sakurai showed the trailer of returning characters, everyone was shocked when Snake appeared, immediately followed by the words '''EVERYONE IS HERE'''. It's safe to say no-one expected ''every'' character to return.


* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected, [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]] namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when dual-type Fire/Dark Pokémon, [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.

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* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected, expected [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]] 8[[/note]], namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when dual-type Fire/Dark Pokémon, [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.


* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected, namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire type, [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead.

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* A representative for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' was only to be expected, [[note]]Pokémon Sun & Moon were nearing release at the time Ultimate was nearing the end of development, and similar to Greninja in Smash 4, Sakurai reserved a spot on the roster for a new Pokémon from Gen 8[[/note]] namely in the form of one of the fully-evolved starters. The assumed newcomer was thought to be the [[GreenThumb grass type]] [[ArcherArchetype Decidueye]], considering we already had [[PlayingWithFire fire]] and [[MakingASplash water]] type starters in the forms of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Charizard]] and [[GratuitousNinja Greninja]][[note]]though Charizard is a part of the returning Pokémon Trainer's moveset[[/note]], not to mention its playable status in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''. ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' and the fact that a full-blown archer fighter hadn't been done before in Smash. Imagine some ''Pokémon'' fans' surprise when ''another'' fire type, dual-type Fire/Dark Pokémon, [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Incineroar]], made the cut instead.instead and differentiated himself from Charizard by being a wrestling-oriented fighter, another fighter type that Sakurai hadn't done before.


* [[VideoGame/EarthBound Ness]] definitely came from out of left field [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros with few people at the time having actually heard of him]], mainly because his game was an AcclaimedFlop when it was first released in the US and was [[NoExportForYou never given a PAL release until much later on the Wii U eShop]].
* [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]] was quite the surprise because he'd only been in ''{{racing game}}s'' up until that point. Granted, his inclusion was mitigated by his in-game background as a {{bounty hunter}}, but actually seeing Captain Falcon in-game ''outside his vehicle'' still caught a lot of ''F-Zero'' fans off guard.
* [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Jigglypuff]] was another out-there suggestion. While Jigglypuff was certainly a popular Pokémon back in the day, as well as a recurring character in the [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]], the chances of it appearing as a playable fighter in any capacity had to have been, at the very least, a bit of a shock. Comparatively, other possibly more appropriate "cutesy" Pokémon like Clefairy (former intended mascot before Pikachu) and Meowth (major antagonist in the anime) merely appear as Poké Ball summons.

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* Of the original four unlockable fighters, Luigi is the only one to not explicitly come from out of left field. His not being available from the start like his big brother Mario was somewhat unexpected. But despite this, his absence from [[Videogame/SuperMario64 Super Mario 64]], and the fact that he only made appearances in Mario sports games at the time, Luigi is still an iconic part of the Mario mythos. As for the other three...
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[[VideoGame/EarthBound Ness]] definitely came from out of left field [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros with few people at the time having actually heard of him]], mainly because his game was an AcclaimedFlop when it was first released in the US and was [[NoExportForYou never given a PAL release until much later on the Wii U eShop]].
* ** [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]] was quite the surprise because he'd only been in ''{{racing game}}s'' up until that point. Granted, his inclusion was mitigated by his in-game background as a {{bounty hunter}}, but actually seeing Captain Falcon in-game ''outside his vehicle'' still caught a lot of ''F-Zero'' fans off guard.
* ** [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Jigglypuff]] was another out-there suggestion. While Jigglypuff was certainly a popular Pokémon back in the day, as well as a recurring character in the [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]], the chances of it appearing as a playable fighter in any capacity had to have been, at the very least, a bit of a shock. Comparatively, other possibly more appropriate "cutesy" Pokémon like Clefairy (former intended mascot before Pikachu) and Meowth (major antagonist in the anime) merely appear as Poké Ball summons.


* Joker was definitely a huge surprise, partially because [[VideoGame/Persona5 his game]] is exclusive to the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 and UsefulNotes/PlayStation4. [[note]]While various games in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series have made appearances on Nintendo hardware, most of the ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' subseries has only been on Sony consoles. The sole exceptions are the ''[[VideoGame/PersonaQShadowOfTheLabyrinth Persona Q]]'' spin-offs, with Joker being featured in the [[VideoGame/PersonaQ2NewCinemaLabyrinth second game]], which was released only a week prior to his announcement.[[/note]] It also came right off the heels of the announcement that Nintendo themselves chose the characters for Sakurai this time around, leading to assumptions that they'd simply be promoting upcoming Switch titles like what they did with Corrin, notably ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' or ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'', which turned out to be ''far'' from the truth. Seemingly in an attempt to make things as whiplash-inducing as possible, the initial announcement was made with Joker ''himself'' interrupting the 2018 Game Awards with what initially seems to be a random ''Persona 5''-related animation... until we see him brandishing an envelope sealed with [[IconicLogo Smash's iconic logo]]. To paraphrase a Youtube comment in reference to the sheer amount of confusion and excitement in the wake of his reveal: "Only Nintendo can garner so much hype from [[WhamShot the reveal of]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext a wax seal with a logo on it.]]"

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* Joker was definitely a huge surprise, partially because [[VideoGame/Persona5 his game]] is exclusive to the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 and UsefulNotes/PlayStation4. [[note]]While various games in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series have made appearances on Nintendo hardware, most of the ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' subseries has only been on Sony consoles. The sole exceptions are the ''[[VideoGame/PersonaQShadowOfTheLabyrinth Persona Q]]'' spin-offs, with Joker being featured in the [[VideoGame/PersonaQ2NewCinemaLabyrinth second game]], which was released only a week prior to his announcement.[[/note]] It also came right off the heels of the announcement that Nintendo themselves chose the characters for Sakurai this time around, leading to assumptions that they'd simply be promoting upcoming Switch titles like what they did with Corrin, notably ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' or ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'', which turned out to be ''far'' from the truth. Seemingly in an attempt to make things as whiplash-inducing as possible, the initial announcement was made with Joker ''himself'' interrupting the 2018 Game Awards with what initially seems to be a random ''Persona 5''-related animation... until we see him brandishing an envelope sealed with [[IconicLogo Smash's iconic logo]]. To paraphrase a Youtube comment in reference to the sheer amount of confusion and excitement in the wake of his reveal: "Only Nintendo can garner so much hype from [[WhamShot the reveal of]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext [[MundaneMadeAwesome a wax seal with a logo on it.]]"

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