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TOTAL REWRITE!(Although I guess it's been this way for a while now)

I'm [=ZeroL=]. (Duh)

Things are easy to understand using bullets. I am not easy to understand, so it should even out.

* Name: [=ZeroL=].

* Real name: [[spoiler: Made you look.]]

* Gender: Male

* Orientation: Straight

* Link for vandalisms: TroperWall.ZeroL

* [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons D&D alignment]]: LawfulGood, mostly, although I often lean more towards NeutralGood.

* Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei alignment: Chaos

* RealLife philosophy: Too long and boring for Wiki/TVTropes

* Tendencies: Dropping random Homestuck references, making puns (especially math/science puns), bragging accompanied by SelfDeprecation, [[LargeHam hamminess]], terrible attempts to be a MagnificentBastard, GoshDangItToHeck, going on for too long, being too long-winded, using too much time/space for stories or explanations, and did I mention going on for too long?

* BerserkButton: AspergersSyndrome being called a disease, and/or calls for a cure

* Do I have-: Don't even finish asking. Of course I do, or odds are it wouldn't be my ONLY BerserkButton.

* Three fictional characters to describe me: A bit of the intelligence and all of the ham from [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch]], the quirkiness and obsession with justice from [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Terezi]], and the clumsiness and tendency to always try to take charge, even if it's stupid, plus more ham, from [[Franchise/SuperMario Bowser.]]

* Myers-Briggs Personality: ENTJ (Extravert, Intuitive, Thinking, and Judging, which really just means organized)

* Area of study: Physics. Yes, I am the one science person in the site for artists and writers. UPDATE: Turns out, there are a few others here who love science. Hooray!

* Obsessions: {{Magnificent Bastard}}s, [=AIs=], theorizing, [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers small, fluffy things]]

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page. And this bullet is now weeks or months out of date, yippee. Make that half a year, now!

* Weapon of choice: Bow and arrow.

* Weapons I am out of practice with: Bow and arrow

* Favorite emoticon: >::::] (Either you don't get it, or it's more terrifying the more you think about it.)

* What I do here: Forum games. Used to be more, but I've left a few times, and the games are all I've consistently come back to.

* Why I no longer have a "works I like/recommendations": Because it's now forbidden to edit other people's troper pages, which I get, but still.

* Battle themes for tropers: Since assigning people leitmotifs is popular, I thought I could choose what music would play in a battle against each troper. If you have a suggestion, just [=PM=] me, because there are definitely people I just can't think of anything for.

** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Anza_sb anza_sb]]: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJ5Eyk3itk Mach 20!]]
** Tropers/DrNoPuma: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsK5LlAL_YU The Ultimate Show]]
** Tropers/{{Beverly}}: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NX9Xqj3SE Princess Shroob battle]]
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Cabe_Bedlam Cabe_Bedlam]]:[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ihouKiRVD44 The Final Antasma Battle]]
** Tropers/TheGamechanger: If tropers were bosses, Gamechanger would be the final boss(He just gives off that feeling), so he gets multiple stages.
** Detective Gamechanger: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsyQ0EMwr8 Battle of Oblivion]]
** [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Krueger]]/[[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Bec Noir]] hybrid: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJsqJ_oV2g Savior of the Waking World]]
** Lord English, but with wings and wearing sunglasses: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wg9jows9Yfo Eternity Served Cold]]
** Gamechanger's [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] true final form:[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKVEL_So0oQ The Serpent that Devours the Horizon]]
** Tropers/{{Revaryk}}: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=so5E7Y6yVqc Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Boss Battle]]
** Tropers/TalesOfUnder:What else could it be but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCMJC1Ig6s Battle Against a True Hero]]?
** Tropers/TropesForever: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkiUfGKKiK4 Oppa Toby Style]]
** Me: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCm__GcOPk An Earnest Desire of Grey]]
* Fictional characters I look up to: [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Yamato Hotsuin]], ComicBook/IronMan, [[Anime/DeathNote L]], [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch vi Britannia]], [[Manga/AssassinationClassroom Koro-Sensei, Gakuhou Asano, Karma Akabane]], [[Anime/{{Monster}} Dr. Tenma]], [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Every Knight of the Cross(albeit for different reasons)]].
* Random statements and minor headcanons:
** [[Anime/DeathNote Near]] is just as smart as L, despite all the hate he gets both in-universe and out; people see his mannerisms, which are more awkward and childish than L's, and underestimate him for that, rather than judging by what he demonstrates of his abilities.
** What is wrong with this statement? It's that it was a question, not a statement.
** I can't think of anything else right now.

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TOTAL REWRITE!(Although I guess it's been Almost nothing on this way for a while now)

I'm [=ZeroL=]. (Duh)

Things are easy to understand using bullets. I am not easy to understand,
page describes me anymore, so it should even out.

* Name: [=ZeroL=].

* Real name: [[spoiler: Made you look.]]

* Gender: Male

* Orientation: Straight

* Link for vandalisms: TroperWall.ZeroL

* [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons D&D alignment]]: LawfulGood, mostly, although I often lean more towards NeutralGood.

* Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei alignment: Chaos

* RealLife philosophy: Too long and boring for Wiki/TVTropes

* Tendencies: Dropping random Homestuck references, making puns (especially math/science puns), bragging accompanied by SelfDeprecation, [[LargeHam hamminess]], terrible attempts to be a MagnificentBastard, GoshDangItToHeck, going on for too long, being too long-winded, using too much time/space for stories or explanations, and did I mention going on for too long?

* BerserkButton: AspergersSyndrome being called a disease, and/or calls for a cure

* Do I have-: Don't even finish asking. Of course I do, or odds are it wouldn't be my ONLY BerserkButton.

* Three fictional characters to describe me: A bit of
Iím wiping the intelligence and all of the ham from [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch]], the quirkiness and obsession with justice from [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Terezi]], and the clumsiness and tendency to always try to take charge, even if it's stupid, plus more ham, from [[Franchise/SuperMario Bowser.]]

* Myers-Briggs Personality: ENTJ (Extravert, Intuitive, Thinking, and Judging, which really just means organized)

* Area of study: Physics. Yes, I am the one science person in the site for artists and writers. UPDATE: Turns out, there are a few others here who love science. Hooray!

* Obsessions: {{Magnificent Bastard}}s, [=AIs=], theorizing, [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers small, fluffy things]]

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page. And this bullet is now weeks or months out of date, yippee. Make that half a year, now!

* Weapon of choice: Bow and arrow.

* Weapons I am out of practice with: Bow and arrow

* Favorite emoticon: >::::] (Either you don't get it, or it's more terrifying the more you think about it.)

* What I do here: Forum games. Used to be more, but I've left a few times, and the games are all I've consistently come back to.

* Why I no longer have a "works I like/recommendations": Because it's now forbidden to edit other people's troper pages, which I get, but still.

* Battle themes for tropers: Since assigning people leitmotifs is popular, I thought I could choose what music would play in a battle against each troper. If you have a suggestion, just [=PM=] me, because there are definitely people I just can't think of anything for.

** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Anza_sb anza_sb]]: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJ5Eyk3itk Mach 20!]]
** Tropers/DrNoPuma: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsK5LlAL_YU The Ultimate Show]]
** Tropers/{{Beverly}}: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NX9Xqj3SE Princess Shroob battle]]
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Cabe_Bedlam Cabe_Bedlam]]:[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ihouKiRVD44 The Final Antasma Battle]]
** Tropers/TheGamechanger: If tropers were bosses, Gamechanger would be the final boss(He just gives off that feeling), so he gets multiple stages.
** Detective Gamechanger: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsyQ0EMwr8 Battle of Oblivion]]
** [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Krueger]]/[[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Bec Noir]] hybrid: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJsqJ_oV2g Savior of the Waking World]]
** Lord English, but with wings and wearing sunglasses: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wg9jows9Yfo Eternity Served Cold]]
** Gamechanger's [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] true final form:[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKVEL_So0oQ The Serpent that Devours the Horizon]]
** Tropers/{{Revaryk}}: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=so5E7Y6yVqc Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Boss Battle]]
** Tropers/TalesOfUnder:What else could it be but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCMJC1Ig6s Battle Against a True Hero]]?
** Tropers/TropesForever: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkiUfGKKiK4 Oppa Toby Style]]
** Me: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCm__GcOPk An Earnest Desire of Grey]]
* Fictional characters I look up to: [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Yamato Hotsuin]], ComicBook/IronMan, [[Anime/DeathNote L]], [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch vi Britannia]], [[Manga/AssassinationClassroom Koro-Sensei, Gakuhou Asano, Karma Akabane]], [[Anime/{{Monster}} Dr. Tenma]], [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Every Knight of the Cross(albeit for different reasons)]].
* Random statements and minor headcanons:
** [[Anime/DeathNote Near]] is just as smart as L, despite all the hate he gets both in-universe and out; people see his mannerisms, which are more awkward and childish than L's, and underestimate him for that, rather than judging by what he demonstrates of his abilities.
** What is wrong with this statement? It's that it was a question, not a statement.
** I can't think of anything else right now.
slate clean.


* Thing I want you to see: I'm writing a [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12105462/chapters/27446481 Death Note fanfic]]! Not a shipping or fluff fic, but a plot-driven [=AU=] that already has 3 chapters, and I'm super excited about it!



* Waifu (for normal people, this is a fictional character you have a crush on. It's also the subject of a forum game, where no one has gotten mine right yet.): [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Vriska Serket]]

* Tendencies: Dropping random Homestuck references, making puns (especially math/science puns), bragging accompanied by SelfDeprecation, [[LargeHam hamminess]], terrible attempts to be a MagnificentBastard, GoshDangItToHeck, going on for too long, being too long-winded, using too uch time/space for stories or explanations, and did I mention going on for too long?

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* Waifu (for normal people, this is a fictional character you have a crush on. It's also the subject of a forum game, where no one has gotten mine right yet.): [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Vriska Serket]]

* Tendencies: Dropping random Homestuck references, making puns (especially math/science puns), bragging accompanied by SelfDeprecation, [[LargeHam hamminess]], terrible attempts to be a MagnificentBastard, GoshDangItToHeck, going on for too long, being too long-winded, using too uch much time/space for stories or explanations, and did I mention going on for too long?



* (former) Biggest theory: [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei YHVH]] is [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Ronaldo Kuriki]], with the power of an Administrator and gone insane enough to claim that he is God while going more or less exactly against biblical teachings. (I told you I pick Chaos in SMT)

* My new, massive whopper of a theory:[[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Palutena]] is TopGod of the pantheon, but spends most of her power keeping Pit under control, because he's actually a fallen angel who would destroy the world if she didn't. It sounds insane, but there is actually tons of evidence.
** First of all, to prove Palutena is TopGod, all we have to do is look at what she does while Chaos Kin is in control. The shield and throwing pieces of the temple around are beyond even what Hades could do (In fact, almost everything he does that isn't physically his own body smashing stuff is surprisingly small scale, even his "ultimate attack"). Furthermore, if Palutena can only let Pit fly for 5 minutes at a time, how can she throw a floating island hundreds of times his weight and not break a sweat? And the Chaos Kin didn't strengthen her; it can create enemies, but has no "godlike" powers of any kind. The only deities we see do anything on the level of the nigh unbreakable shield and throwing floating islands around are Poseidon parting the sea and arguably Hades's massive size and strength. Thus, Pautena is on the level of two of the trio of the strongest Olympians, and Zeus is nowhere to be seen. But given not only Palutena's power, but that her home is Skyworld, in the sky, which is Zeus's official domain, she looks suspiciously like a stand-in for Zeus. Except she never uses her extreme power much, as if she's using the vast majority of it on something else.
** And now for why Pit is a fallen angel. First of all, it's odd that the image of Pit was fully formed before he crashes through the mirror, but Dark Pit's differences were {{Hand Wave}}ed by him apparently being an "incomplete" copy. It seems far more likely that he ''is'' the truth. Add to that the fact that Viridi dismisses Pit and claims that angels are "messengers of the gods," and yet Pit and Dark Pit are the only angels to be seen. It seems like they should be commonplace, and yet they're incredibly rare. On top of that, everyone knows what an angel is, meaning that even though they're never seen, they're common knowledge. This suggests, but doesn't quite prove, that the Christian God and angels exist on a level above the Palutena-Hades-Viridi pantheon. The proof is the existence of the [[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kidicarus/images/d/d4/Crusader_Blade.png/revision/latest?cb=20140917050534 Crusader Blade]]. Not only is it shaped like a cross, which wouldn't quite prove the presence of Christianity in a primarily Greco-Roman world, given that the Romans used it for capital punishment, but its name references the Crusades, holy wars fought by the Catholic Church. The existence of Christianity in this world, of course, doesn't prove that it's canonically true, but coupled with Pit being an angel who is strong enough to kill even the strongest deities out there, and him being dismissed as a "messenger of the gods" is clearly Viridi hiding her fear of him as a messenger of God. And if he's an actual angel, why would he be working for Palutena? Because she wiped his memories and lied to him to make him do it, which both Hades and Medusa hint at. His wings would burn up after five minutes, not because of a limit, but because Palutena needs to restrict his ability to fly to stop him from falling for good. Or maybe the burning is him completing the final stages of falling. But given this information, it's easy to see that Dark Pit shows that Pit is a fallen angel, because his rebellious personality lines up perfectly with the attitude an angel would take to get cast out of Heaven. His personality and Pit's even line up in some worrying ways, like their mutual love of the battle cry and their witty commentary. In fact, Pit's obedience is implied to be Palutena keeping him on a short leash, since she joked about it with Hades and Viridi without even denying it.
** The Chaos Kin arc does appear to poke a few plot holes in this theory, but the explanations are fairly simple. Palutena sealed Pit in the ring before the Chaos Kin took over, to stop it from controlling him. Then, Viridi acts so friendly towards Pit and much less... [[KnightTemplar Viridi]] than before because Palutena told her the truth and what was at stake, and so she stopped Pit from going SuperpoweredEvilSide in Palutena's place, focusing on saving Palutena because she couldn't keep it up for very long. Palutena had the power she did in that arc because she no longer had to hold Pit back for a little bit, and she didn't use it on him during the battle because the Chaos Kin wanted to claim the power of a fallen angel for itself, just like it targeted Dark Pit, and just the next chapter Hades said he wanted to get ahold of Pittoo's soul. Dark Pit doesn't have full fallen angel power because the Mirror must have had limits to how much power it can copy(although it should be noted that Dark Pit is both tougher and more powerful than Pit at proper difficulty levels, supporting that Pit is stronger than he thinks... just not in a good way). Thus, it's likely that Pit truly is the most powerful Nintendo character of all time.

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page. And this bullet is now weeks or months out of date, yippee.

* When Avatar Quest 2 is going to start: When I stop being too lazy to plan enough to start the game and learn the dice rolling app I have that will let me process combat. However, you can see some of the lore of the multiverse in Sandbox.ZeroL, where I'll be keeping a guide to make the story accessible while keeping its planned depth.

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* (former) Biggest theory: [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei YHVH]] is [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Ronaldo Kuriki]], with the power of an Administrator and gone insane enough to claim that he is God while going more or less exactly against biblical teachings. (I told you I pick Chaos in SMT)

* My new, massive whopper of a theory:[[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Palutena]] is TopGod of the pantheon, but spends most of her power keeping Pit under control, because he's actually a fallen angel who would destroy the world if she didn't. It sounds insane, but there is actually tons of evidence.
** First of all, to prove Palutena is TopGod, all we have to do is look at what she does while Chaos Kin is in control. The shield and throwing pieces of the temple around are beyond even what Hades could do (In fact, almost everything he does that isn't physically his own body smashing stuff is surprisingly small scale, even his "ultimate attack"). Furthermore, if Palutena can only let Pit fly for 5 minutes at a time, how can she throw a floating island hundreds of times his weight and not break a sweat? And the Chaos Kin didn't strengthen her; it can create enemies, but has no "godlike" powers of any kind. The only deities we see do anything on the level of the nigh unbreakable shield and throwing floating islands around are Poseidon parting the sea and arguably Hades's massive size and strength. Thus, Pautena is on the level of two of the trio of the strongest Olympians, and Zeus is nowhere to be seen. But given not only Palutena's power, but that her home is Skyworld, in the sky, which is Zeus's official domain, she looks suspiciously like a stand-in for Zeus. Except she never uses her extreme power much, as if she's using the vast majority of it on something else.
** And now for why Pit is a fallen angel. First of all, it's odd that the image of Pit was fully formed before he crashes through the mirror, but Dark Pit's differences were {{Hand Wave}}ed by him apparently being an "incomplete" copy. It seems far more likely that he ''is'' the truth. Add to that the fact that Viridi dismisses Pit and claims that angels are "messengers of the gods," and yet Pit and Dark Pit are the only angels to be seen. It seems like they should be commonplace, and yet they're incredibly rare. On top of that, everyone knows what an angel is, meaning that even though they're never seen, they're common knowledge. This suggests, but doesn't quite prove, that the Christian God and angels exist on a level above the Palutena-Hades-Viridi pantheon. The proof is the existence of the [[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kidicarus/images/d/d4/Crusader_Blade.png/revision/latest?cb=20140917050534 Crusader Blade]]. Not only is it shaped like a cross, which wouldn't quite prove the presence of Christianity in a primarily Greco-Roman world, given that the Romans used it for capital punishment, but its name references the Crusades, holy wars fought by the Catholic Church. The existence of Christianity in this world, of course, doesn't prove that it's canonically true, but coupled with Pit being an angel who is strong enough to kill even the strongest deities out there, and him being dismissed as a "messenger of the gods" is clearly Viridi hiding her fear of him as a messenger of God. And if he's an actual angel, why would he be working for Palutena? Because she wiped his memories and lied to him to make him do it, which both Hades and Medusa hint at. His wings would burn up after five minutes, not because of a limit, but because Palutena needs to restrict his ability to fly to stop him from falling for good. Or maybe the burning is him completing the final stages of falling. But given this information, it's easy to see that Dark Pit shows that Pit is a fallen angel, because his rebellious personality lines up perfectly with the attitude an angel would take to get cast out of Heaven. His personality and Pit's even line up in some worrying ways, like their mutual love of the battle cry and their witty commentary. In fact, Pit's obedience is implied to be Palutena keeping him on a short leash, since she joked about it with Hades and Viridi without even denying it.
** The Chaos Kin arc does appear to poke a few plot holes in this theory, but the explanations are fairly simple. Palutena sealed Pit in the ring before the Chaos Kin took over, to stop it from controlling him. Then, Viridi acts so friendly towards Pit and much less... [[KnightTemplar Viridi]] than before because Palutena told her the truth and what was at stake, and so she stopped Pit from going SuperpoweredEvilSide in Palutena's place, focusing on saving Palutena because she couldn't keep it up for very long. Palutena had the power she did in that arc because she no longer had to hold Pit back for a little bit, and she didn't use it on him during the battle because the Chaos Kin wanted to claim the power of a fallen angel for itself, just like it targeted Dark Pit, and just the next chapter Hades said he wanted to get ahold of Pittoo's soul. Dark Pit doesn't have full fallen angel power because the Mirror must have had limits to how much power it can copy(although it should be noted that Dark Pit is both tougher and more powerful than Pit at proper difficulty levels, supporting that Pit is stronger than he thinks... just not in a good way). Thus, it's likely that Pit truly is the most powerful Nintendo character of all time.

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page. And this bullet is now weeks or months out of date, yippee.

* When Avatar Quest 2 is going to start: When I stop being too lazy to plan enough to start the game and learn the dice rolling app I have
yippee. Make that will let me process combat. However, you can see some of the lore of the multiverse in Sandbox.ZeroL, where I'll be keeping half a guide to make the story accessible while keeping its planned depth.
year, now!


* Fictional characters I look up to: [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Yamato Hotsuin]], ComicBook/IronMan, [[Anime/DeathNote L]], [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch vi Britannia]], [[Manga/AssassinationClassroom Koro-Sensei, Gakuhou Asano, Karma Akabane]], [[Anime/{{Monster}} Dr. Tenma]], [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Every Knight of the Cross(albeit for different reasons)]].

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* Fictional characters I look up to: [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Yamato Hotsuin]], ComicBook/IronMan, [[Anime/DeathNote L]], [[Anime/CodeGeass Lelouch vi Britannia]], [[Manga/AssassinationClassroom Koro-Sensei, Gakuhou Asano, Karma Akabane]], [[Anime/{{Monster}} Dr. Tenma]], [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Every Knight of the Cross(albeit for different reasons)]].reasons)]].
*Random statements and minor headcanons:
** [[Anime/DeathNote Near]] is just as smart as L, despite all the hate he gets both in-universe and out; people see his mannerisms, which are more awkward and childish than L's, and underestimate him for that, rather than judging by what he demonstrates of his abilities.
** What is wrong with this statement? It's that it was a question, not a statement.
** I can't think of anything else right now.


* Thing I want you to see: I'm writing a [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12105462/chapters/27446481 Death Note fanfic]]! Not a shipping or fluff fic, but a plot-driven [=AU=] that already has 2 chapters, and I'm super excited about it!

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* Thing I want you to see: I'm writing a [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12105462/chapters/27446481 Death Note fanfic]]! Not a shipping or fluff fic, but a plot-driven [=AU=] that already has 2 3 chapters, and I'm super excited about it!

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*Thing I want you to see: I'm writing a [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12105462/chapters/27446481 Death Note fanfic]]! Not a shipping or fluff fic, but a plot-driven [=AU=] that already has 2 chapters, and I'm super excited about it!


** Tropers/BaconZorp: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NX9Xqj3SE Princess Shroob battle]]

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** Tropers/BaconZorp: [[https://m.Tropers/{{Beverly}}: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NX9Xqj3SE Princess Shroob battle]]


* Area of study: Physics. Yes, I am the one science person in the site for artists and writers.

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* Area of study: Physics. Yes, I am the one science person in the site for artists and writers.
writers. UPDATE: Turns out, there are a few others here who love science. Hooray!


** Tropers/AnzaSb: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJ5Eyk3itk Mach 20!]]

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** Tropers/AnzaSb: [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Anza_sb anza_sb]]: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJ5Eyk3itk Mach 20!]]

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**Tropers/AnzaSb: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJ5Eyk3itk Mach 20!]]


* Biggest theory: [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei YHVH]] is [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Ronaldo Kuriki]], with the power of an Administrator and gone insane enough to claim that he is God while going more or less exactly against biblical teachings. (I told you I pick Chaos in SMT)

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page.

to:

* (former) Biggest theory: [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei YHVH]] is [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Ronaldo Kuriki]], with the power of an Administrator and gone insane enough to claim that he is God while going more or less exactly against biblical teachings. (I told you I pick Chaos in SMT)

*My new, massive whopper of a theory:[[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Palutena]] is TopGod of the pantheon, but spends most of her power keeping Pit under control, because he's actually a fallen angel who would destroy the world if she didn't. It sounds insane, but there is actually tons of evidence.
**First of all, to prove Palutena is TopGod, all we have to do is look at what she does while Chaos Kin is in control. The shield and throwing pieces of the temple around are beyond even what Hades could do (In fact, almost everything he does that isn't physically his own body smashing stuff is surprisingly small scale, even his "ultimate attack"). Furthermore, if Palutena can only let Pit fly for 5 minutes at a time, how can she throw a floating island hundreds of times his weight and not break a sweat? And the Chaos Kin didn't strengthen her; it can create enemies, but has no "godlike" powers of any kind. The only deities we see do anything on the level of the nigh unbreakable shield and throwing floating islands around are Poseidon parting the sea and arguably Hades's massive size and strength. Thus, Pautena is on the level of two of the trio of the strongest Olympians, and Zeus is nowhere to be seen. But given not only Palutena's power, but that her home is Skyworld, in the sky, which is Zeus's official domain, she looks suspiciously like a stand-in for Zeus. Except she never uses her extreme power much, as if she's using the vast majority of it on something else.
**And now for why Pit is a fallen angel. First of all, it's odd that the image of Pit was fully formed before he crashes through the mirror, but Dark Pit's differences were {{Hand Wave}}ed by him apparently being an "incomplete" copy. It seems far more likely that he ''is'' the truth. Add to that the fact that Viridi dismisses Pit and claims that angels are "messengers of the gods," and yet Pit and Dark Pit are the only angels to be seen. It seems like they should be commonplace, and yet they're incredibly rare. On top of that, everyone knows what an angel is, meaning that even though they're never seen, they're common knowledge. This suggests, but doesn't quite prove, that the Christian God and angels exist on a level above the Palutena-Hades-Viridi pantheon. The proof is the existence of the [[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kidicarus/images/d/d4/Crusader_Blade.png/revision/latest?cb=20140917050534 Crusader Blade]]. Not only is it shaped like a cross, which wouldn't quite prove the presence of Christianity in a primarily Greco-Roman world, given that the Romans used it for capital punishment, but its name references the Crusades, holy wars fought by the Catholic Church. The existence of Christianity in this world, of course, doesn't prove that it's canonically true, but coupled with Pit being an angel who is strong enough to kill even the strongest deities out there, and him being dismissed as a "messenger of the gods" is clearly Viridi hiding her fear of him as a messenger of God. And if he's an actual angel, why would he be working for Palutena? Because she wiped his memories and lied to him to make him do it, which both Hades and Medusa hint at. His wings would burn up after five minutes, not because of a limit, but because Palutena needs to restrict his ability to fly to stop him from falling for good. Or maybe the burning is him completing the final stages of falling. But given this information, it's easy to see that Dark Pit shows that Pit is a fallen angel, because his rebellious personality lines up perfectly with the attitude an angel would take to get cast out of Heaven. His personality and Pit's even line up in some worrying ways, like their mutual love of the battle cry and their witty commentary. In fact, Pit's obedience is implied to be Palutena keeping him on a short leash, since she joked about it with Hades and Viridi without even denying it.
**The Chaos Kin arc does appear to poke a few plot holes in this theory, but the explanations are fairly simple. Palutena sealed Pit in the ring before the Chaos Kin took over, to stop it from controlling him. Then, Viridi acts so friendly towards Pit and much less... [[KnightTemplar Viridi]] than before because Palutena told her the truth and what was at stake, and so she stopped Pit from going SuperpoweredEvilSide in Palutena's place, focusing on saving Palutena because she couldn't keep it up for very long. Palutena had the power she did in that arc because she no longer had to hold Pit back for a little bit, and she didn't use it on him during the battle because the Chaos Kin wanted to claim the power of a fallen angel for itself, just like it targeted Dark Pit, and just the next chapter Hades said he wanted to get ahold of Pittoo's soul. Dark Pit doesn't have full fallen angel power because the Mirror must have had limits to how much power it can copy(although it should be noted that Dark Pit is both tougher and more powerful than Pit at proper difficulty levels, supporting that Pit is stronger than he thinks... just not in a good way). Thus, it's likely that Pit truly is the most powerful Nintendo character of all time.

* Reason for revamping this page: It's late at night, I'm bored, and there was too much that I just hadn't updated on the old page.
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