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* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to push his own agenda, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting.
** However his military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, he has never served in the armed forces in any capacity, and most people in military circles consider him a hack, if they even know about him.

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* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics theory that advocated intermingling politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play warfare plays a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to push his own agenda, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting.
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setting. However, it should be noted in regards of his military theories that he has never served in the armed forces in any capacity, his military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, he has never served in the armed forces in any capacity, and most people in military circles consider him a hack, if they even know about him.


* BackedByThePentagon: Averted, since unlike Creator/TomClancy (who received a lot of assistance from the US Armed Forces when writing his books), the author is an avowed isolationist and archenemy of the Military-Industrial Complex.


* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former). The duel intensified in the fandoms as ''The Crown'' ended up being the awards darling, whereas ''Victoria'' saw itself mostly snubbed its first two seasons.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} the dorky Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former). The duel intensified in the fandoms as ''The Crown'' ended up being the awards darling, whereas ''Victoria'' saw itself mostly snubbed its first two seasons.


** However his Military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, was never served in any armed forces, and most people consider him a hack in military circles, if they even know about him.

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** However his Military military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, was he has never served in any the armed forces, forces in any capacity, and most people in military circles consider him a hack in military circles, hack, if they even know about him.

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* InMemoriam: The third episode of Series 3 is dedicated to longtime ''Masterpiece'' host Russell Baker, who had died the week before its broadcast. Baker had hosted the program from 1992 to 2004.


* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to make the book more fun and exciting, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting.

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* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to make the book more fun and exciting, push his own agenda, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting. setting.
** However his Military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, was never served in any armed forces, and most people consider him a hack in military circles, if they even know about him.


** However his Military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, was never served in any armed forces, and most people consider him a hack in military circles, if they even know about him.


* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to champion his far-right views.

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* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to champion make the book more fun and exciting, and adds science fiction elements to his far-right views.near-future setting.


* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to make the book more fun and exciting, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting.

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* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to make the book more fun and exciting, and adds science fiction elements to champion his near-future setting.far-right views.

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** However his Military theories were all disproven by the Gulf War, was never served in any armed forces, and most people consider him a hack in military circles, if they even know about him.


!!The TV Series About Queen Victoria:

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!!The [[folder: The Alternate History Novel]]
* BackedByThePentagon: Averted, since unlike Creator/TomClancy (who received a lot of assistance from the US Armed Forces when writing his books), the author is an avowed isolationist and archenemy of the Military-Industrial Complex.
* ExtremelyLengthyCreation: Lind had been working on ''Victoria'' at least since the mid-1990s when it was finally released in 2014.
* FanNickname:
** Some fans sometimes refer to Rumford as "Rumlind" (a portmanteau of his name and the author's), since they consider him an AuthorAvatar.
** Others refer to Governor Kraft as "Fuhrer Kraft", in apparent homage to [[PuttingOnTheReich Fuhrer Bradley]] in ''Manga/FullMetalAlchemist''. And at least one fan also calls him "Kaiser Billy."
* LifeImitatesArt: In ''Victoria'', leftist extremists destroy American historical monuments because they consider them racist. Only a couple of years later, [[https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/index.html this happened in real life as well.]]
* WriteWhatYouKnow: William Lind ("Thomas Hobbes") is a trained historian, former Senate staffer, and military theorist in real life, and most famous as one of the originators of the "Fourth Generation Warfare" theory. Politics and military affairs, and especially this sort of irregular warfare, play a prominent part in ''Victoria''--though Lind also exaggerates and dramatizes things to make the book more fun and exciting, and adds science fiction elements to his near-future setting.
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[[folder: The
TV Series About Queen Victoria:Victoria]]




!! The Alternate History Novel
* FanNickname: Some fans sometimes refer to Rumford as "Rumlind" (a portmanteau of his name and the author's, William S. Lind), believing that he is an AuthorAvatar.

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\n!! The Alternate History Novel\n* FanNickname: Some fans sometimes refer to Rumford as "Rumlind" (a portmanteau of his name and the author's, William S. Lind), believing that he is an AuthorAvatar.[[/folder]]

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!! The Alternate History Novel
* FanNickname: Some fans sometimes refer to Rumford as "Rumlind" (a portmanteau of his name and the author's, William S. Lind), believing that he is an AuthorAvatar.


* DawsonCasting: 30 year old Jenna Coleman plays the 18 year old Queen Victoria. She pulls it off due to her very youthful looks. As of the end of Series 2, Victoria is nearing Coleman's real age.

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* DawsonCasting: 30 year old Jenna Coleman plays the 18 year old Queen Victoria. She pulls it off due to her very youthful looks. As of the end of Series 2, Victoria is nearing Coleman's real age.3 brings the series into Victoria's 30s.



* DeletedScene: Series 1 originally aired over 8 episodes in the UK; in the US, it aired as 7 episodes, with the first two episodes edited together. As a result, several scenes from the original UK broadcast had to be trimmed. PBS made up for this, however, by adding an average of 5 minutes of extra footage to its subsequent broadcasts that was neither broadcast nor released on DVD in the UK, including several scenes that resolve plot points left open in the original ITV version. This continued into the broadcasts of Series 2 on PBS.
* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former). The duel intensified in the fandoms as ''The Crown'' ended up being the awards darling, whereas ''Victoria'' saw itself snubbed its first two seasons.

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* DeletedScene: Series 1 originally aired over 8 episodes in the UK; in the US, it aired as 7 episodes, with the first two episodes edited together. As a result, several scenes from the original UK broadcast had to be trimmed. PBS made up for this, however, by adding an average of 5 minutes of extra footage to its subsequent broadcasts that was neither broadcast nor released on DVD in the UK, including several scenes that resolve plot points left open in the original ITV version. This continued into the broadcasts of Series 2 on PBS.
PBS, however the US broadcast of the 2017 Christmas special deleted a subplot involving Victoria having a portrait painted that remained exclusive to the ITV and streaming/home video versions of the episode.
* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former). The duel intensified in the fandoms as ''The Crown'' ended up being the awards darling, whereas ''Victoria'' saw itself mostly snubbed its first two seasons.



* RomanceOnTheSet: Jenna Coleman and Tom Hughes began dating around the time Series 1 entered pre-production.



* {{Watershed}}: In the UK, the series airs post-watershed on ITV, however it averts the tropes associated with the concept by remaining family-friendly through its first two seasons, never going beyond a 12 (or PG) rating. Creator Daisy Goodwin, in a 2016 for the Daily Mail, explained that this is intentional, as she is a believer that shows do not need to be sexually explicit in order to tell their stories - even a story such as Victoria's early life in which sexuality played a major role. Illustrated with a scene in Series 1 in which Victoria is shown taking a bath - but does so ''fully clothed''. Although this is TruthInTelevision for the era, it's hard to imagine a similar show produced for HBO or Netflix or BBC One avoiding nudity.

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* {{Watershed}}: In the UK, the series airs post-watershed on ITV, however it averts the tropes associated with the concept by remaining family-friendly through its first two seasons, never going beyond a 12 (or PG) TV-PG) rating. Creator Daisy Goodwin, in a 2016 for the Daily Mail, explained that this is intentional, as she is a believer that shows do not need to be sexually explicit in order to tell their stories - even a story such as Victoria's early life in which sexuality played a major role. Illustrated with a scene in Series 1 in which Victoria is shown taking a bath - but does so ''fully clothed''. Although this is TruthInTelevision for the era, it's hard to imagine a similar show produced for HBO or Netflix or BBC One avoiding nudity. Technically, the show airs post-watershed on PBS in the US as well, though in order to allow all broadcast episodes to retain a TV-PG rating, a minor bit of male nudity ended up being blurred from a Series 2 episode.


* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former).
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: See NoExportForYou. For those unable to access the PBS stream, unofficial circulation and home recording of the PBS versions of the episodes are the only way fans outside the US have been able to see the additional scenes.
* NoExportForYou: As detailed in DeletedScene, most episodes as broadcast in the US on PBS feature scenes not included in the ITV broadcasts. As of 2017 the only way to see these scenes outside of broadcast is to view them online on the PBS website. This streaming service is only available to Americans (despite Canadians making up a large percentage of PBS' supporters), rendering the scenes officially available only to US viewers and not to Canadian, UK, etc. where the only commercial release on DVD, Blu-ray and third-party streaming has been of the edited-down ITV versions. Inverted in relation to the first two episodes of Series 1 and the Series 2 Christmas special, both of which actually had scenes removed for the PBS broadcast.

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* DuelingWorks: With ''Series/TheCrown2016'', as biopics of the most seminal Queens in British history. Noteworthy is how much of a study in contrasts the two casts are, with the ambitious young ingenue Victoria having almost nothing in common with the slightly older, eminently competent, yet tentative Elizabeth. Likewise the dashing Prince Philip is the total opposite of {{Adorkable}} Albert. And Lord Melbourne's charm and affection for his queen stand in total contrast with Churchill's infamous gruffness and disdain for his. The dueling nature of the two shows was amplified by the fact that ''Victoria'' starred Jenna Coleman and ''The Crown'' starred Matt Smith, and the two had previously co-starred together on ''Series/DoctorWho'', as well as by the fact that Alex Jennings plays the queen's scheming uncle in both series--Leopold I of Belgium on ''Victoria'' and the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII) on ''The Crown'' (being decidedly more sympathetic in the former).
former). The duel intensified in the fandoms as ''The Crown'' ended up being the awards darling, whereas ''Victoria'' saw itself snubbed its first two seasons.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: See NoExportForYou. For those unable to access the PBS stream, unofficial circulation and home recording of the PBS versions of the episodes are the only way fans outside the US have been able to see the additional scenes.
scenes. Averted with the handful of episodes that aired on PBS in edited (or slightly censored) versions, since the unaltered versions of those (one of which was the 2017 Christmas special, which had an entire subplot trimmed for PBS broadcast) are readily available online and on the DVD/Blu-ray.
* NoExportForYou: As detailed in DeletedScene, most episodes as broadcast in the US on PBS feature scenes not included in the ITV broadcasts. As of 2017 the only way to see these scenes outside of broadcast is to view them online on the PBS website. This streaming service is only available to Americans (despite Canadians making up a large percentage of PBS' supporters), rendering the scenes officially available only to US viewers and not to Canadian, UK, etc. where the only commercial release on DVD, Blu-ray and third-party streaming has been of the edited-down ITV versions. Inverted in relation to the first two episodes of Series 1 and the Series 2 Christmas special, both of which actually had scenes removed for the PBS broadcast.broadcast, but those scenes were included in the DVD release.

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