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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it wasn't enough to justify continuing the series at a new studio since it needed to be a hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'', according to Shadi Petosky. The show is currently on an indefinite hiatus.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it wasn't enough to justify continuing the series at a new studio since it needed to be a hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'', according to Shadi Petosky. The show is currently on an indefinite hiatus.


* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The series was originally pitched to Cartoon Network, who produced the pilot episode.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The series was originally pitched to Cartoon Network, who produced the pilot episode. They passed on it in favor of more episodes of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''


* UnderminedByReality: The show's major theme of pubescent sexuality, as well as Reggie's interactions with [[MsFanservice the Butt Witch]], become a lot harder to stomach knowing Vickerman was fired for being sexually predatory to young teens.

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* UnderminedByReality: The show's major theme of pubescent sexuality, as well as Reggie's interactions with [[MsFanservice the Butt Witch]], become a lot harder to stomach knowing Vickerman was fired for being sexually predatory to young teens.


* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it wasn't enough to justify continuing the series at a new studio since it needed to be a hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'', according to Shadi Petosky.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it wasn't enough to justify continuing the series at a new studio since it needed to be a hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'', according to Shadi Petosky. The show is currently on an indefinite hiatus.


* DawsonCasting: Basically all of the kid characters are voiced by adults.

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* %%* DawsonCasting: Basically all of the kid characters are voiced by adults.



* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The English version of ''Twelve Forever'''s pilot was removed from Cartoon Network's [=YouTube=] channel following the reveal of Julia Vickerman's pedophilic posts, meaning anyone who wanted to watch it would have to go scrounge around for an illegal reupload.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The English version of ''Twelve Forever'''s pilot was removed from Cartoon Network's [=YouTube=] channel following the reveal discovery of Julia Vickerman's pedophilic posts, meaning anyone who wanted to watch it would have to go scrounge around for an illegal reupload.


* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The English version of ''Twelve Forever'''s pilot was removed from Cartoon Network's [=YouTube=] channel following the Julia Vikerman scandal, meaning anyone who wanted to watch it would have to go scrounge around for an illegal reupload.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The English version of ''Twelve Forever'''s pilot was removed from Cartoon Network's [=YouTube=] channel following the reveal of Julia Vikerman scandal, Vickerman's pedophilic posts, meaning anyone who wanted to watch it would have to go scrounge around for an illegal reupload.



* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed.wasn't enough to justify continuing the series at a new studio since it needed to be a hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'', according to Shadi Petosky.


* CrossdressingVoices: Matt Berry voices the female Butt Witch.

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* CrossdressingVoices: Actor Matt Berry voices the female Butt Witch.



* InvisibleAdvertising: Netflix has ''not'' done a particularly good job of advertising the series, with next to no promotion before its debut.
* OldShame: After Julia Vickerman's pedophilic posts were revealed, Cartoon Network took down the series pilot from their Website/YouTube channel. Strangely, the Latin Spanish dub is still available on its respective CN channel on the same website.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: Netflix has ''not'' done a did not do particularly good job of advertising the series, with next to no promotion before its debut.
debut, and any actual acknowledgement of the series before its release just being Twitter retweets from people who worked on the show.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The English version of ''Twelve Forever'''s pilot was removed from Cartoon Network's [=YouTube=] channel following the Julia Vikerman scandal, meaning anyone who wanted to watch it would have to go scrounge around for an illegal reupload.
* OldShame: After Julia Vickerman's pedophilic posts were revealed, discovered, Cartoon Network took down the series pilot from their Website/YouTube channel. Strangely, the Latin Spanish dub is still available on its respective CN channel on the same website.


* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's aforementioned posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's aforementioned posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.


* InvisibleAdvertising: Netflix has ''not'' done a particularly good job of advertising the series, with next to no promotion before it's debut.
* OldShame: After Julia Vickerman's pedophilic comments were revealed, Cartoon Network took down the series pilot from their Website/YouTube channel. Strangely, the Latin Spanish dub is still available on its respective CN channel on the same website.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: Netflix has ''not'' done a particularly good job of advertising the series, with next to no promotion before it's its debut.
* OldShame: After Julia Vickerman's pedophilic comments posts were revealed, Cartoon Network took down the series pilot from their Website/YouTube channel. Strangely, the Latin Spanish dub is still available on its respective CN channel on the same website.



* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's aforementioned posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who that made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's aforementioned posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.


* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Creator Julia Vickerman was fired from the show during its production due to her mistreating her co-workers. She was replaced as showrunner by Shadi Petosky (''WesternAnimation/DangerAndEggs''), although Vickerman is still credited as executive producer for much of the series' run. Vickerman continued to promote it on her social media until a long history of pederastic social media posts she had made (including one story on her now-deleted Tumblr about stalking an adolescent boy) dating back to 2010 came to light, at which point her online presence went quiet and she blocked anyone who brought the scandal up. She eventually made a public apology, claiming she was [[JustJokingJustification only joking]].
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's suspiciously pederastic social media posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Creator Julia Vickerman was fired from the show during its production due to her mistreating her co-workers. She was replaced as showrunner by Shadi Petosky (''WesternAnimation/DangerAndEggs''), although Vickerman is still credited as executive producer for much of the series' run. Vickerman continued to promote it on her social media until a long history of pederastic social media posts she had made (including one story on her now-deleted Tumblr about her stalking an adolescent boy) dating back to 2010 came to light, at which point her online presence went quiet and she blocked anyone who brought the scandal up. She eventually made a public apology, claiming she was [[JustJokingJustification only joking]].
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's suspiciously pederastic social media aforementioned posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.


* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's suspicious pederastic social media posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's suspicious suspiciously pederastic social media posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.


* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's pedophilia came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's pedophilia suspicious pederastic social media posts came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.


* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's pedophilic comments (which she claims were only jokes) came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The show just had one bad luck streak after another: Netflix delayed the show's release after its completion, delayed it another month after having given it a set release date, and it also saw [[InvisibleAdvertising minimal advertising]]. If that wasn't bad enough, the original studio who made it went under and, after its first season, despite getting good reception, it was ultimately not renewed. Petosky claimed that the show would have needed to be a ''massive'' hit akin to ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' in order for it to be continued with another crew and after Julia Vickerman's pedophilic comments (which she claims were only jokes) pedophilia came to light, it's unlikely that another studio will touch it even if Vickerman is no longer involved.

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