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* CreatorBacklash: Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
-->'''Don Bluth:''' I'd seen that movie before. It was nothing new or fresh or risky in there; it was another "churn 'em out".

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* CreatorBacklash: Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it self]].
** Don Bluth was famously so unimpressed with
the hardest by leading film he'd been assigned to co-direct, calling it a walk-out "churn 'em out," that he quit early in production, taking most of several other animators who followed the animation staff with him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''. It would be the beginning of a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
-->'''Don Bluth:''' I'd seen that movie before. It
for the rest of the decade.
** According to animator Tom Sito, Vance Gerry
was nothing new or fresh or risky vocally against the decision not to kill Chief. When then-studio head Ron Miller told the story department "This is Disney! We can't kill a character!", Gerry countered with "But [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat he gets hit in there; it was another "churn 'em out".the kisser with a freight train]]!"



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** Creator/WallaceShawn was originally going to voice Boomer, but dropped out and was replaced by Creator/PaulWinchell.


* EndOfAnAge: A meta-example. The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[UsefulNotes/TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].

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* EndOfAnAge: A meta-example. The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. 88). Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s Rescuers'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Roy E. Disney, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[UsefulNotes/TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].


* RealLifeRelative: John [=McIntire=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life; they have since passed away.

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* RealLifeRelative: John [=McIntire=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life; they have since passed away.real-life at the time of the film's release.


-->'''Don Bluth:''' I'd seen that movie before. It was nothing new or fresh or risky in there; it was another "churn 'em out".



--> '''Tim Burton''': I worked for a great animator, Creator/GlenKeane. He was nice, he was really good to me, he's a really strong animator and he helped me. But he also tortured me because I got all the cute fox scenes to draw, and I couldn't draw all those four-legged Disney foxes. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't even fake the Disney style. Mine looked like road kills... imagine drawing a cute fox with Sandy Duncan's voice for three years. It's not something that you can relate to very much.

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--> '''Tim Burton''': -->'''Tim Burton:''' I worked for a great animator, Creator/GlenKeane. He was nice, he was really good to me, he's a really strong animator and he helped me. But he also tortured me because I got all the cute fox scenes to draw, and I couldn't draw all those four-legged Disney foxes. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't even fake the Disney style. Mine looked like road kills... imagine drawing a cute fox with Sandy Duncan's voice for three years. It's not something that you can relate to very much.


* EndOfAnAge: A meta-example. The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].

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* EndOfAnAge: A meta-example. The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].


* TheCastShowoff: Justified as they're a singing group, but playing the Singin' Strays in the midquel gives Creator/RebaMcEntire, Patrick Swayze, Jim Cummings, and Vicki Lawrence the opportunity to show off their singing skills.



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** A pair of cranes voiced by Phil Harris and Charo were originally planned as minor characters, but were cut for not contributing anything.


* RealLifeRelative: John [=McIntyre=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life.

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* RealLifeRelative: John [=McIntyre=] [=McIntire=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life.real-life; they have since passed away.


* TheCastShowoff: Justified as they're a singing group, but playing the Singin' Strays in the midquel gives Reba McEntire, Patrick Swayze, Jim Cummings, and Vicki Lawrence the opportunity to show off their singing skills.

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* TheCastShowoff: Justified as they're a singing group, but playing the Singin' Strays in the midquel gives Reba McEntire, Creator/RebaMcEntire, Patrick Swayze, Jim Cummings, and Vicki Lawrence the opportunity to show off their singing skills.



* RealLifeRelative: John [=McEnroe=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life.

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* RealLifeRelative: John [=McEnroe=] [=McIntyre=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life.


* EndOfAnAge: The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].

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* EndOfAnAge: A meta-example. The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].


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* RealLifeRelative: John [=McEnroe=] (the badger's VA) and Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. Tweed) were husband-and-wife in real-life.


** * This was the first movie to feature a lot of the animators who would go on to play pivotal roles in the Disney Renaissance movies and the studios that sprang out of them such as Pixar and Creator/DreamWorks, which ironically crushed Bluth in their wake.

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** * This was the first movie to feature a lot of the animators who would go on to play pivotal roles in the Disney Renaissance movies and the studios that sprang out of them such as Pixar and Creator/DreamWorks, which ironically crushed Bluth in their wake.


* EndOfAnAge: The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].

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* EndOfAnAge: The film stands at an overlap between an old Disney and a new one: it was the last film to have any involvement from Creator/DisneysNineOldMen, the remainder of whom at the time retired during production (apart from Eric Larson, who remained as a trainer and consultant until 1986; he then died in 88), as well as one of the last productions to be handled by Walt Disney's descendants. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking. However, it was also the start of a new era, as the influx of fresh-faced artistic talent (save [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]] and Creator/TimBurton, who's nasty experience of the then in-the-pits studio resulted in their being let go), along with the new management team of Eisner, Katzenberg and Wells, would spend the next decade making the films which eventually became the [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation Disney Renaissance]].Renaissance]].
** * This was the first movie to feature a lot of the animators who would go on to play pivotal roles in the Disney Renaissance movies and the studios that sprang out of them such as Pixar and Creator/DreamWorks, which ironically crushed Bluth in their wake.



* ScienceMarchesOn: Canines like dogs and foxes are not, as it turns out, completely colourblind, only red-green colourblind as compared to the average human.

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* This was the first movie to feature a lot of the animators who would go on to play pivotal roles in the Disney Renaissance movies and the studios that sprang out of them such as Pixar and Creator/DreamWorks, which ironically crushed Bluth in their wake.
* This was the final movie that the whole of Disney's Nine Old Men worked on; all of them retired around this film's release, with Eric Larson staying on as a trainer and supervisor. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Canines like dogs and foxes are not, as it turns out, completely colourblind, only red-green colourblind as compared to the average human.

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* This was the first movie to feature a lot of the animators who would go on to play pivotal roles in the Disney Renaissance movies and the studios that sprang out of them such as Pixar and Creator/DreamWorks, which ironically crushed Bluth in their wake.
* This was the final movie that the whole of Disney's Nine Old Men worked on; all of them retired around this film's release, with Eric Larson staying on as a trainer and supervisor. Wolfgang Reithermann, who was the effective head of Disney Animation, died in a car crash around ''The Black Cauldron'''s release, and his death plus spiritual successor Jeffrey Katzenberg getting the department dropped in his lap PLUS the massive failure of ''Cauldron'' spelled the end of the old style of animation moviemaking.
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human.

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* TheCastShowoff: Justified as they're a singing group, but playing the Singin' Strays in the midquel gives Reba McEntire, Patrick Swayze, Jim Cummings, and Vicki Lawrence the opportunity to show off their singing skills.

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