Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Trivia / NewXMen

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*ExplainTheArtifact: Sublime serves as a way to explain why humanity hates mutants but not enhanced superhumans: mutants are immune to Sublime (unless they consume Kick) unlike baseline humans, so Sublimes stirs anti-mutant hate to remain the dominant species on Earth.
Tabs MOD

Removed: 149

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
YMMV


* FanNickname: "Xorneto" for the version of Magneto that appears in "Planet X", after a {{retcon}} established that it was actually Xorn in disguise.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RecycledScript: Eagle-eyed fans have noted that Sublime is quite similar to an old ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' villain called "That Which Endures," another ancient, microscopic sentient lifeform that claimed to exist in all living things and to have guided evolution and attempted to control mutants. However, they have rather different ''modi operandi'' (That Which Endures wanted to make the jump from humans to mutants, whereas Sublime wanted to destroy mutants because it could ''not'' make that jump) and separate entries in the ''ComicBook/OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', throwing the idea that Morrison intended them to be the same character (if he was even aware of That Which Endures at all; the story was ''very'' obscure and didn't have anything to do with the X-Men) into doubt. A somewhat similar character also appeared in the final issue of ''ComicBook/XMan''.

to:

* RecycledScript: Eagle-eyed fans have noted that Sublime is quite similar to an old ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' villain called "That Which Endures," another ancient, microscopic sentient lifeform that claimed to exist in all living things and to have guided evolution and attempted to control mutants. However, they have rather different ''modi operandi'' (That Which Endures wanted to make the jump from humans to mutants, whereas Sublime wanted to destroy mutants because it could ''not'' make that jump) and separate entries in the ''ComicBook/OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', throwing the idea that Morrison intended them to be the same character (if he was they were even aware of That Which Endures at all; the story was ''very'' obscure and didn't have anything to do with the X-Men) into doubt. A somewhat similar character also appeared in the final issue of ''ComicBook/XMan''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CreatorBreakdown: According to the Morrison themself, the stuff with the crematoriums was brought about by Grant Morrison experiencing a time when "his loved ones were dying left and right."

to:

* CreatorBreakdown: According to the Morrison themself, the stuff with the crematoriums was brought about by Grant Morrison experiencing a time when "his "their loved ones were dying left and right."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CreatorBreakdown: According to the man himself, the stuff with the crematoriums was brought about by Grant Morrison experiencing a time when "his loved ones were dying left and right."

to:

* CreatorBreakdown: According to the man himself, Morrison themself, the stuff with the crematoriums was brought about by Grant Morrison experiencing a time when "his loved ones were dying left and right."



** He also intended to have Colossus on the team, and for Moira [=MacTaggert=] to take Beast's scientist role. Their deaths in the Legacy Virus storyline prevented this, resulting in Beast being transferred over from Claremont's [=X-Treme X-Men=]. Likewise, he gave Emma Frost her secondary diamond mutation to replace Colossus' steel skin.
** Morrison also outlined some of the plots he was considering had he remained on the title. In particular, he wanted to open the School to extraordinarily-gifted ''humans'', and explore what that would mean.

to:

** He They also intended to have Colossus on the team, and for Moira [=MacTaggert=] to take Beast's scientist role. Their deaths in the Legacy Virus storyline prevented this, resulting in Beast being transferred over from Claremont's [=X-Treme X-Men=]. Likewise, he they gave Emma Frost her secondary diamond mutation to replace Colossus' steel skin.
** Morrison also outlined some of the plots he was they were considering had he they remained on the title. In particular, he they wanted to open the School to extraordinarily-gifted ''humans'', and explore what that would mean.



* WriteWhatYouKnow: The "Riot at Xavier's" storyline was supposedly based on a playground riot Morrison witnessed in his youth.

to:

* WriteWhatYouKnow: The "Riot at Xavier's" storyline was supposedly based on a playground riot Morrison witnessed in his their youth.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dewicking Too Soon [1]


* TooSoon: A few fans saw Scott's burgeoning relationship with Emma as this. Particularly since it featured her kissing Scott over Jean's grave a day after she died... making snarky comments like [[CrossesTheLineTwice "How many times have you buried her now?" and "This must be getting rather tedious for you,"]] all the while.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* WriteWhatYouKnow: The "Riot at Xavier's" storyline was supposedly based on a playground riot Morrison witnessed in his youth.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CreatorBacklash: Creator/GrantMorrison would eventually come to agree that the whole "Xorneto" debacle wasn't that great of an idea.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FirstAppearance: Issue #115, which is part two of the "E for Extinction" storyline, is notable for featuring the first appearance of Negasonic Teenage Warhead, a Genoshan mutant girl with a memorably bizarre codename.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** Before Morrison was brought on, several creators pitched their ideas when the relaunch was announced. A lot of the rejected ideas were collected into ''X-Men: Millennial Visions'', which included pitches from people like Creator/GeoffJohns, Keith Giffen, Creator/AlexRoss and Jim Starlin.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CreatorBreakdown: According to the man himself, the stuff with the crematoriums was brought about by Grant Morrison experiencing a time when "his loved ones were dying left and right."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FanNickname: "Xorneto" for the version of Magneto that appears in "Planet X", after a {{retcon}} established that it was actually Xorn in disguise.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not true, apparently; according to this, Morrison went to DC because he wanted to do smaller, creator-owned projects for Vertigo.


* [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the]] [[ExecutiveMeddling Editors]]: When Morrison first got the book, he stated that he wanted to have a run at least as long as [[Creator/ChrisClaremont Claremont]]'s first: seventeen straight years. He lasted ''three'', due to getting into a fight with the editors over the creative direction of his character Marvel Boy. The differences proved irreconcilable, and before long Morrison did the unthinkable: [[OhCrap he signed an exclusive with DC]]. Naturally, he hasn't been seen at Marvel since, and what's more, many of the changes to the X-mythos he made were quickly retconned or swept under the rug, a move Morrison himself reportedly believes was done to spite him for leaving.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RecycledScript: Eagle-eyed fans have noted that Sublime is quite similar to an old ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' villain called "That Which Endures," another ancient, microscopic sentient lifeform that claimed to exist in all living things and to have guided evolution and attempted to control mutants. However, they have rather different ''modi operandi'' (That Which Endures wanted to make the jump from humans to mutants, whereas Sublime wanted to destroy mutants because it could ''not'' make that jump) and separate entires in the ''OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', throwing the idea that Morrison intended them to be the same character (if he was even aware of That Which Endures at all; the story was ''very'' obscure and didn't have anything to do with the X-Men) into doubt. A somewhat similar character also appeared in the final issue of ''ComicBook/XMan''.

to:

* RecycledScript: Eagle-eyed fans have noted that Sublime is quite similar to an old ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' villain called "That Which Endures," another ancient, microscopic sentient lifeform that claimed to exist in all living things and to have guided evolution and attempted to control mutants. However, they have rather different ''modi operandi'' (That Which Endures wanted to make the jump from humans to mutants, whereas Sublime wanted to destroy mutants because it could ''not'' make that jump) and separate entires entries in the ''OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', ''ComicBook/OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', throwing the idea that Morrison intended them to be the same character (if he was even aware of That Which Endures at all; the story was ''very'' obscure and didn't have anything to do with the X-Men) into doubt. A somewhat similar character also appeared in the final issue of ''ComicBook/XMan''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Morrison also outlined some of the plots he was considering had he remained on the title. In particular, he wanted to open the School to extraordinarily-gifted ''humans'', and what that would mean.

to:

** Morrison also outlined some of the plots he was considering had he remained on the title. In particular, he wanted to open the School to extraordinarily-gifted ''humans'', and explore what that would mean.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** Morrison also outlined some of the plots he was considering had he remained on the title. In particular, he wanted to open the School to extraordinarily-gifted ''humans'', and what that would mean.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** He also intended to have Colossus on the team, and for Moira [=MacTaggert=] to take Beast's scientist role. Their deaths in the Legacy Virus storyline prevented this, resulting in Beast being transferred over from Claremont's [=X-Treme X-Men=]. Likewise, he gave Emma Frost her secondary diamond mutation.

to:

** He also intended to have Colossus on the team, and for Moira [=MacTaggert=] to take Beast's scientist role. Their deaths in the Legacy Virus storyline prevented this, resulting in Beast being transferred over from Claremont's [=X-Treme X-Men=]. Likewise, he gave Emma Frost her secondary diamond mutation.
mutation to replace Colossus' steel skin.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* RecycledScript: Eagle-eyed fans have noted that Sublime is quite similar to an old ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' villain called "That Which Endures," another ancient, microscopic sentient lifeform that claimed to exist in all living things and to have guided evolution and attempted to control mutants. However, they have rather different ''modi operandi'' (That Which Endures wanted to make the jump from humans to mutants, whereas Sublime wanted to destroy mutants because it could ''not'' make that jump) and separate entires in the ''OfficialHandbookOfTheMarvelUniverse'', throwing the idea that Morrison intended them to be the same character (if he was even aware of That Which Endures at all; the story was ''very'' obscure and didn't have anything to do with the X-Men) into doubt. A somewhat similar character also appeared in the final issue of ''ComicBook/XMan''.
* [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the]] [[ExecutiveMeddling Editors]]: When Morrison first got the book, he stated that he wanted to have a run at least as long as [[Creator/ChrisClaremont Claremont]]'s first: seventeen straight years. He lasted ''three'', due to getting into a fight with the editors over the creative direction of his character Marvel Boy. The differences proved irreconcilable, and before long Morrison did the unthinkable: [[OhCrap he signed an exclusive with DC]]. Naturally, he hasn't been seen at Marvel since, and what's more, many of the changes to the X-mythos he made were quickly retconned or swept under the rug, a move Morrison himself reportedly believes was done to spite him for leaving.
* TooSoon: A few fans saw Scott's burgeoning relationship with Emma as this. Particularly since it featured her kissing Scott over Jean's grave a day after she died... making snarky comments like [[CrossesTheLineTwice "How many times have you buried her now?" and "This must be getting rather tedious for you,"]] all the while.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Grant Morrison originally wanted to include Rogue in the team's lineup, and planned to base her appearance and personality on her portrayal in ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution''.
** He also intended to have Colossus on the team, and for Moira [=MacTaggert=] to take Beast's scientist role. Their deaths in the Legacy Virus storyline prevented this, resulting in Beast being transferred over from Claremont's [=X-Treme X-Men=]. Likewise, he gave Emma Frost her secondary diamond mutation.

----

Top