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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/JessicaAlba had some problems with the films' scripts and naturally hated doing the scenes were Sue strips off while invisible.

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Creator/JessicaAlba had some problems with the films' scripts and naturally hated doing the scenes were Sue strips off while invisible.invisible. Nevertheless, she is happy that she met her future husband while filming.
** Tim Story reflected on the films in the late 2010s and noticed that things would have been different if he made the films at a later decade.
** Averted with Michael Chiklis, who loved playing as the Thing in the films and the first video game. He later voiced the Thing in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' and is looking forward to playing the Thing again for the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' if he is given the chance.
** Averted with Julian [=McMahon=], who had a fun time as Dr. Doom and also got to voice him in an episode of ''Robot Chicken''.



* OldShame:
** Tim Story reflected on the films in the late 2010s and noticed that things would have been different if he made the films at a later decade.
** Averted with Michael Chiklis, who loved playing as the Thing in the films and the first video game. He later voiced the Thing in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' and is looking forward to playing the Thing again for the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' if he is given the chance.
** Averted with Jessica Alba. She is happy that she met her future husband while filming.
** Averted with Julian [=McMahon=], who had a fun time as Dr. Doom and also got to voice him in an episode of ''Robot Chicken''.

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* OldShame:
** Tim Story reflected on the films in the late 2010s and noticed that things would have been different if he made the films at a later decade.
** Averted with Michael Chiklis, who loved playing as the Thing in the films and the first video game. He later voiced the Thing in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' and is looking forward to playing the Thing again for the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' if he is given the chance.
** Averted with Jessica Alba. She is happy that she met her future husband while filming.
** Averted with Julian [=McMahon=], who had a fun time as Dr. Doom and also got to voice him in an episode of ''Robot Chicken''.
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* TheWikiRule: [[https://fantasticfourmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Movies_Wiki Here.]]

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* TheWikiRule: [[https://fantasticfourmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Movies_Wiki Here.]]
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* FakeNationality: Australian Creator/JulianMcMahon as Dr. Doom, a Romani from the fictional country of Latveria.

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* FakeNationality: Australian Creator/JulianMcMahon as Dr. Doom, a Romani from the fictional country of Latveria.Latveria, though American accented.
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* MemeAcknowledgement: Julian [=McMahon=], Creator/DougJones and Tim Story approved of the growing memes from the films.

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* MemeAcknowledgement: Julian [=McMahon=], Michael Chiklis, Creator/DougJones and Tim Story approved of the growing memes from the films.

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* FakeNationality: Australian Creator/JulianMcMahon as Dr. Doom, a Romani from the fictional country of Latveria.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/FantasticFourDuology Has its own page]].



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* ''Trivia/FantasticFour2005''
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* ActorInspiredElement:
** Julian [=McMahon=], who plays Doctor Doom, suggested that metal staples be used to help stitch the scar at the beginning of his transformation. This comes from [=McMahon's=] experience playing a cosmetic surgeon on ''Series/NipTuck'', making it also a subtle ActorAllusion.
** Creator/IoanGruffudd suggested that Reed constantly be taking notes.



* AwesomeDearBoy:
** Creator/JessicaAlba wanted to play the Invisible Woman because she wanted to play in a superhero film.
** Creator/MichaelChiklis, being a fan of the comics immediately accepted the role of Ben Grimm.



* CreatorBacklash:
** Creator/JessicaAlba had some problems with the films' scripts and naturally hated doing the scenes were Sue strips off while invisible. She absolutely hated working on the sequel so much that [[CreatorBreakdown it almost made her quit acting altogether.]]
** Creator/ChrisEvans wasn't so crazy about working on Rise of the Silver Surfer either.
** Creator/DougJones didn't think highly of Rise of the Silver Surfer either, particularly director Tim Story and for having his voice dubbed over by Creator/LaurenceFishburne in post-production.

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* CreatorBacklash:
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CreatorBacklash: Creator/JessicaAlba had some problems with the films' scripts and naturally hated doing the scenes were Sue strips off while invisible. She absolutely hated working on the sequel so much that [[CreatorBreakdown it almost made her quit acting altogether.]]
** Creator/ChrisEvans wasn't so crazy about working on Rise of the Silver Surfer either.
** Creator/DougJones didn't think highly of Rise of the Silver Surfer either, particularly director Tim Story and for having his voice dubbed over by Creator/LaurenceFishburne in post-production.
invisible.



* DoingItForTheArt: One of Chiklis' requirements for accepting the role of the Thing was that his character would be make-up based, rather than the CGI everyone else had previously assumed. This meant that Chiklis insisted upon hours of application and wearing heavy, uncomfortable makeup, over the option that would have allowed him to earn the same money in significantly less time simply by voice acting. Why? Because Chiklis was a fan who knew that underneath the rock skin, Ben Grimm's still a human being, and this was best shown by having his actor go through the same thing. The production team thought that Chiklis would have to ADR his lines due to the heavy prosthetics and oversized teeth he'd have to wear. Instead, he spent hours reading to his children while wearing the teeth until he became fully intelligible. Once again, it was because Chiklis felt that being able to perform in the moment with his co-stars was best way to convey the character of Ben Grimm rather than having to perform the part in a booth. Apparently, Chiklis' wife came by the set unexpectedly one day to see him. He was in the full body suit and makeup at the time, and she was totally unprepared for seeing him like that. She found it so distressing that she had to be escorted from the set in order to compose herself. [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct It]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse worked.]]
* DuelingMovies:
** The first with ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'' (a dysfunctional superhero family) and ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' (features a villain shooting out electricity and was released two months apart). The first film had to be reshot to prevent similarities with the earlier. Ironically, all three movies produced memorable memes.



* DyeingForYourArt: Jessica Alba dyed her hair blonde for the first film, but wore a wig for the second.



* FanNickname: Gah Lak Tus is derisively referred to as Cloudlactus here, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin for randomly being turned into a giant cloud in this adaptation]].
* FollowTheLeader: This film was made after the success of ''Film/SpiderMan1''. It goes for a similarly lighthearted tone and there's more than a passing resembling between Dr. Doom's story-arc from this film and Norman Osborn's from that one.
* FranchiseKiller: The ''Silver Surfer'' spinoff never happened. That movie also halted the film franchise as a whole for 8 years until Fox tried to reboot it in 2015, which became [[StillbornFranchise a completely different story]].
* MeaningfulReleaseDate: It was originally supposed to be released on July 4, 2005, and early trailers played this up. However, its release date was shifted to four days later.



* MissingTrailerScene: In the first trailer for the first film, Dr. Doom electrocutes Ned near water. In the actual film, he shoots a bolt through and out Ned's chest.



* TheOtherMarty: Creator/DougJones was going to voice the Silver Surfer but his voice was dubbed over by Creator/LaurenceFishburne in post production.
* PromotedFanboy:
** Creator/MichaelChiklis has been a comic book fan since he was a kid. Guess which one was his favorite?
** Creator/JulianMcMahon=] is also a fan of the Fantastic Four comics before he joined the film series.
* ReleaseDateChange: The first film's release date got delayed to four days after its initial release date.
* RomanceOnTheSet: Creator/JessicaAlba met her future husband Cash Warren while filming the first film on August 2004 at Vancouver.
* StarMakingRole: Alongside ''Film/SinCity'', Creator/JessicaAlba got her big breakthrough in cinema.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: One scene has Johnny use a digital camera. Nowadays, he would use a smartphone.
* ThrowItIn:
** Creator/ChrisEvans improvised most of his dialogue in the first movie, such as the "Aw, look -- she's kissing him.", which fits seamlessly in the scene as for the benefit of Alicia, who was standing right next to him (she's blind).
** Creator/IoanGruffudd was supposed to say "What happens when you supercool hot metal?" Instead, he said "What happens when you rapidly cool hot metal?" Tim Story approved of this and left it in the film.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The film is clearly a 2005 product with Johnny using a digital camera and quotes the "priceless" motto from [=MasterCard=] ads.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelChiklis successfully fought The Thing be a real creation and not CGI, even if it meant wearing an uncomfortable costume.



!!Trivia for the tie-in games:
* OldShame: Zak Penn, the writer of the first movie's tie-in video game, made a [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating]] jab at the game, as well as ''VideoGame/XMenTheOfficialGame'', in his 2014 documentary ''Atari: Game Over'' while going over his career writing for both comic book movies and the "[[TheProblemWithLicensedGames shitty video games]]" made out of them.
* TheOtherDarrin:
** The first game saw Creator/CreeSummer fill in for Creator/KerryWashington as Alicia. Additionally, the game had three bonus levels using the 616 and ''Ultimates'' costumes, where none of the film actors reprised their roles, including Creator/RobinAtkinDownes replacing Creator/IoanGruffudd as Reed, Creator/GreyDeLisle replacing Creator/JessicaAlba as Sue, Creator/FredTatasciore replacing Creator/MichaelChiklis as Ben, Creator/QuintonFlynn reprising his role from [[WesternAnimation/FantasticFour the '90s cartoon]] and replacing Creator/ChrisEvans as Johnny, and Creator/JimMeskimen replacing Julian [=McMahon=] as Dr. Doom.
** None of the actors from the film reprised their roles in the ''Rise of the Silver Surfer'' game.
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* DeletedScene: [[DeletedScene/FantasticFour2005 See here]].

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* DeletedScene: [[DeletedScene/FantasticFour2005 [[DeletedScene/FantasticFourDuology See here]].



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/FantasticFour2005 Has its own page]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/FantasticFour2005 [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/FantasticFourDuology Has its own page]].
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!!Trivia for the films:
* ActorInspiredElement:
** Julian [=McMahon=], who plays Doctor Doom, suggested that metal staples be used to help stitch the scar at the beginning of his transformation. This comes from [=McMahon's=] experience playing a cosmetic surgeon on ''Series/NipTuck'', making it also a subtle ActorAllusion.
** Creator/IoanGruffudd suggested that Reed constantly be taking notes.
* ApprovalOfGod: Creator/StanLee said that Creator/MichaelChiklis' portrayal of the Thing was his favourite performance in any Marvel film. It was however ''not'' the case with Victor.
* AwesomeDearBoy:
** Creator/JessicaAlba wanted to play the Invisible Woman because she wanted to play in a superhero film.
** Creator/MichaelChiklis, being a fan of the comics immediately accepted the role of Ben Grimm.
* CaliforniaDoubling: Most of New York is filmed at Vancouver, with most shots that have Creator/JessicaAlba at New York instead of Vancouver.
* CreatorBacklash:
** Creator/JessicaAlba had some problems with the films' scripts and naturally hated doing the scenes were Sue strips off while invisible. She absolutely hated working on the sequel so much that [[CreatorBreakdown it almost made her quit acting altogether.]]
** Creator/ChrisEvans wasn't so crazy about working on Rise of the Silver Surfer either.
** Creator/DougJones didn't think highly of Rise of the Silver Surfer either, particularly director Tim Story and for having his voice dubbed over by Creator/LaurenceFishburne in post-production.
* CreatorsFavorite: The Thing is one of Michael Chiklis' favorite roles.
* DeletedScene: [[DeletedScene/FantasticFour2005 See here]].
* DisownedAdaptation: While Creator/StanLee loved Creator/MichaelChiklis' performance as the Thing, he was not a fan of how the films portrayed Dr. Doom, as he felt Victor was changed too much from his depiction in the comics.
* DoingItForTheArt: One of Chiklis' requirements for accepting the role of the Thing was that his character would be make-up based, rather than the CGI everyone else had previously assumed. This meant that Chiklis insisted upon hours of application and wearing heavy, uncomfortable makeup, over the option that would have allowed him to earn the same money in significantly less time simply by voice acting. Why? Because Chiklis was a fan who knew that underneath the rock skin, Ben Grimm's still a human being, and this was best shown by having his actor go through the same thing. The production team thought that Chiklis would have to ADR his lines due to the heavy prosthetics and oversized teeth he'd have to wear. Instead, he spent hours reading to his children while wearing the teeth until he became fully intelligible. Once again, it was because Chiklis felt that being able to perform in the moment with his co-stars was best way to convey the character of Ben Grimm rather than having to perform the part in a booth. Apparently, Chiklis' wife came by the set unexpectedly one day to see him. He was in the full body suit and makeup at the time, and she was totally unprepared for seeing him like that. She found it so distressing that she had to be escorted from the set in order to compose herself. [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct It]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse worked.]]
* DuelingMovies:
** The first with ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'' (a dysfunctional superhero family) and ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' (features a villain shooting out electricity and was released two months apart). The first film had to be reshot to prevent similarities with the earlier. Ironically, all three movies produced memorable memes.
* DVDBonusContent: The films had bonus features including deleted scenes and featurettes relating to the film's production.
* DVDCommentary:
** Creator/JessicaAlba, Creator/MichaelChiklis and Creator/IoanGruffudd for the cast commentary.
** Tim Story, Avi Arad, Creator/KevinFeige, Michael France and Mark Frost for the crew commentary.
* DyeingForYourArt: Jessica Alba dyed her hair blonde for the first film, but wore a wig for the second.
* EnforcedMethodActing: Since Jessica Alba didn't like stripping off, her reaction as Sue is quite natural.
* FakeAmerican: Welsh Creator/IoanGruffudd as Reed Richards.
* FanNickname: Gah Lak Tus is derisively referred to as Cloudlactus here, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin for randomly being turned into a giant cloud in this adaptation]].
* FollowTheLeader: This film was made after the success of ''Film/SpiderMan1''. It goes for a similarly lighthearted tone and there's more than a passing resembling between Dr. Doom's story-arc from this film and Norman Osborn's from that one.
* FranchiseKiller: The ''Silver Surfer'' spinoff never happened. That movie also halted the film franchise as a whole for 8 years until Fox tried to reboot it in 2015, which became [[StillbornFranchise a completely different story]].
* MeaningfulReleaseDate: It was originally supposed to be released on July 4, 2005, and early trailers played this up. However, its release date was shifted to four days later.
* MemeAcknowledgement: Julian [=McMahon=], Creator/DougJones and Tim Story approved of the growing memes from the films.
* MissingTrailerScene: In the first trailer for the first film, Dr. Doom electrocutes Ned near water. In the actual film, he shoots a bolt through and out Ned's chest.
* OldShame:
** Tim Story reflected on the films in the late 2010s and noticed that things would have been different if he made the films at a later decade.
** Averted with Michael Chiklis, who loved playing as the Thing in the films and the first video game. He later voiced the Thing in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' and is looking forward to playing the Thing again for the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' if he is given the chance.
** Averted with Jessica Alba. She is happy that she met her future husband while filming.
** Averted with Julian [=McMahon=], who had a fun time as Dr. Doom and also got to voice him in an episode of ''Robot Chicken''.
* TheOtherMarty: Creator/DougJones was going to voice the Silver Surfer but his voice was dubbed over by Creator/LaurenceFishburne in post production.
* PromotedFanboy:
** Creator/MichaelChiklis has been a comic book fan since he was a kid. Guess which one was his favorite?
** Creator/JulianMcMahon=] is also a fan of the Fantastic Four comics before he joined the film series.
* ReleaseDateChange: The first film's release date got delayed to four days after its initial release date.
* RomanceOnTheSet: Creator/JessicaAlba met her future husband Cash Warren while filming the first film on August 2004 at Vancouver.
* StarMakingRole: Alongside ''Film/SinCity'', Creator/JessicaAlba got her big breakthrough in cinema.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: One scene has Johnny use a digital camera. Nowadays, he would use a smartphone.
* ThrowItIn:
** Creator/ChrisEvans improvised most of his dialogue in the first movie, such as the "Aw, look -- she's kissing him.", which fits seamlessly in the scene as for the benefit of Alicia, who was standing right next to him (she's blind).
** Creator/IoanGruffudd was supposed to say "What happens when you supercool hot metal?" Instead, he said "What happens when you rapidly cool hot metal?" Tim Story approved of this and left it in the film.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The film is clearly a 2005 product with Johnny using a digital camera and quotes the "priceless" motto from [=MasterCard=] ads.
* WagTheDirector: Creator/MichaelChiklis successfully fought The Thing be a real creation and not CGI, even if it meant wearing an uncomfortable costume.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/FantasticFour2005 Has its own page]].
* TheWikiRule: [[https://fantasticfourmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Movies_Wiki Here.]]

!!Trivia for the tie-in games:
* OldShame: Zak Penn, the writer of the first movie's tie-in video game, made a [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating]] jab at the game, as well as ''VideoGame/XMenTheOfficialGame'', in his 2014 documentary ''Atari: Game Over'' while going over his career writing for both comic book movies and the "[[TheProblemWithLicensedGames shitty video games]]" made out of them.
* TheOtherDarrin:
** The first game saw Creator/CreeSummer fill in for Creator/KerryWashington as Alicia. Additionally, the game had three bonus levels using the 616 and ''Ultimates'' costumes, where none of the film actors reprised their roles, including Creator/RobinAtkinDownes replacing Creator/IoanGruffudd as Reed, Creator/GreyDeLisle replacing Creator/JessicaAlba as Sue, Creator/FredTatasciore replacing Creator/MichaelChiklis as Ben, Creator/QuintonFlynn reprising his role from [[WesternAnimation/FantasticFour the '90s cartoon]] and replacing Creator/ChrisEvans as Johnny, and Creator/JimMeskimen replacing Julian [=McMahon=] as Dr. Doom.
** None of the actors from the film reprised their roles in the ''Rise of the Silver Surfer'' game.
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