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* CreatorBacklash: Not really ''backlash'', per se, but Dave [=McGraw=] isn't the biggest fan of his playing on ''The Harvest Floor''; he likes that it got him noticed, but he also feels that it was overly flashy and indulgent.
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* CreatorBacklash: CreatorBacklash:
** Not really ''backlash'', per se, but Dave [=McGraw=] isn't the biggest fan of his playing on ''The Harvest Floor''; he likes that it got him noticed, but he also feels that it was overly flashy andindulgent.indulgent.
** They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent. They do like ''Harvest'' somewhat more than the material that came before it, but have also told individual fans that, as a whole, they think it is a needlessly flashy (especially the drumming; as mentioned above, Dave [=McGraw=] has stated that he feels that he massively overplayed on that album and was trying way too hard to gain recognition as a then-unknown drummer) and overly technical release that is full of songs that are way more trouble than they're worth to play, and while they acknowledge that it has numerous fan favorites, the songs often do not go over well enough live to make the sheer difficulty (and, at times, physical pain) involved in learning and playing them worth it.
** Not really ''backlash'', per se, but Dave [=McGraw=] isn't the biggest fan of his playing on ''The Harvest Floor''; he likes that it got him noticed, but he also feels that it was overly flashy and
** They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent. They do like ''Harvest'' somewhat more than the material that came before it, but have also told individual fans that, as a whole, they think it is a needlessly flashy (especially the drumming; as mentioned above, Dave [=McGraw=] has stated that he feels that he massively overplayed on that album and was trying way too hard to gain recognition as a then-unknown drummer) and overly technical release that is full of songs that are way more trouble than they're worth to play, and while they acknowledge that it has numerous fan favorites, the songs often do not go over well enough live to make the sheer difficulty (and, at times, physical pain) involved in learning and playing them worth it.
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* OldShame: Most of their pre-''Harvest'' material, and even ''Harvest'' to some degree. They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent. They do like ''Harvest'' somewhat more than the material that came before it, but have also told individual fans that, as a whole, they think it is a needlessly flashy (especially the drumming; as mentioned above, Dave [=McGraw=] has stated that he feels that he massively overplayed on that album and was trying way too hard to gain recognition as a then-unknown drummer) and overly technical release that is full of songs that are way more trouble than they're worth to play, and while they acknowledge that it has numerous fan favorites, the songs often do not go over well enough live to make the sheer difficulty (and, at times, physical pain) involved in learning and playing them worth it.
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* RarelyPerformedSong: Ever since the release of ''Death Atlas'', the band has seldom performed anything from the albums before it, with ''The Harvest Floor'' being a particularly major pariah for them despite having numerous fan favorites. The case regarding ''The Harvest Floor'' is because most of its songs are technically difficult and often physically painful to play, and Dave [=McGraw=] in particular hates his drumming on the album, believing that he overplayed in a misguided attempt to prove himself as the then-new drummer.
