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* NoExportForYou: "World Full of Idiots" (''Karma.Bloody.Karma'') and "No Light and No Life" (''The Anthropocene Extinction'') are both territory-restricted (JP for the former, JP and EU for the latter). "An Exposition of Insides" and "Cannibalistic Invasivorism" subvert this to a limited degree; while they are territory-restricted bonus tracks, they have been made available in the US via limited-run 7" releases. Eventually subverted altogether, as ''Medium Rarities'' had all of the region-specific bonus tracks. Currently played straight with "An Extreme Indifference to Human Life", which is thusfar a Japan-exclusive bonus track on ''Death Atlas''.

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* NoExportForYou: "World Full of Idiots" (''Karma.Bloody.Karma'') and "No Light and No Life" (''The Anthropocene Extinction'') are both territory-restricted (JP (Japan for the former, JP Japan and EU Europe for the latter). "An Exposition of Insides" and "Cannibalistic Invasivorism" subvert this to a limited degree; while they are territory-restricted bonus tracks, they have been made available in the US via limited-run 7" releases. Eventually subverted altogether, as ''Medium Rarities'' had all of the region-specific bonus tracks. Currently played straight with "An Extreme Indifference to Human Life", which is thusfar a Japan-exclusive bonus track on ''Death Atlas''.


* BigNameFan: Jon Fishman of Music/{{Phish}} is apparently a fan of the band and has showed up to at least one of their shows in Burlington, and Phish as a whole played a "just for fun" show with Cattle (both bands were in disguise) as Garbage Dick on the 10/1 date of Cattle's fall 2015 tour. They eventually got him to record a spoken word part for "The Unerasable Past" on ''Death Atlas''.



* ThePeteBest: Scott Miller; while he did record a demo with them, said demo has been LONG out of print, and was conspicuously missing from ''Medium Rarities''. He's had various noise-related ventures since then and was a founding member of the black metal/harsh noise act Sutekh Hexen but wound up leaving that act in 2012 and has overall not been a part of anything nearly as big as Cattle Decapitation is now since he left the band.

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* ThePeteBest: Scott Miller; while he did record a demo with them, said demo has been LONG out of print, and was conspicuously missing from ''Medium Rarities''. He's had various noise-related ventures since then and was a founding member of the black metal/harsh noise act Sutekh Hexen but wound up leaving that act in 2012 and has overall not been a part of anything nearly as big as Cattle Decapitation is now since he left the band.band.
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* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved. This was also true with Derek Engemann, as the band and most people who toured with them were sick of his shit and he was an almost universally disliked presence in the industry, and "ego-tripping, duplicitous ass-kisser" is the best way to describe how most people thought of him. If you were a big name, he would do whatever it would take to get into your good graces, and if you weren't, he would either pretend that you didn't exist or treat you like shit. While he left on his own, there was a very good chance that he was only another tour or two away from getting thrown out.

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* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved. This was also true with Derek Engemann, as the band and most people who toured with them were sick of his shit and he was an almost universally disliked presence in the industry, and "ego-tripping, duplicitous ass-kisser" is the best way to describe how most people thought of him. If you were a big name, he would do whatever it would take to get into your good graces, and if you weren't, he would either pretend that you didn't exist or treat you like shit. While he left on his own, there was a very good chance that he was only another tour or two away from getting thrown out.out, and the band spent ''years'' learning about all the shady and dishonest things he had been pulling behind their backs for much of his run in the band after he left.


* OldShame: Most of their pre-''Harvest'' material, and even ''Harvest'' to some degree. They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent.

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* OldShame: Most of their pre-''Harvest'' material, and even ''Harvest'' to some degree. They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent. They do like ''Harvest'' somewhat more than the material that came before it, but have also told individual fans that, as a whole, they think it is a needlessly flashy (especially the drumming; as mentioned above, Dave [=McGraw=] has stated that he feels that he massively overplayed on that album and was trying way too hard to gain recognition as a then-unknown drummer) and overly technical release that is full of songs that are way more trouble than they're worth to play, and while they acknowledge that it has numerous fan favorites, the songs often do not go over well enough live to make the sheer difficulty (and, at times, physical pain) involved in learning and playing them worth it.

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* OldShame: Most of their pre-''Harvest'' material, and even ''Harvest'' to some degree. They seldom play anything off of the albums prior to ''Monolith of Inhumanity''; they were playing "Testicular Manslaughter" off of ''To Serve Man'' on a regular basis for a while, but that one has been retired as of recent.

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* BreakthroughHit: ''The Anthropocene Extinction''. They were a name by the end of the 2000s, and while ''Monolith of Inhumanity'' definitely increased their profile a fair bit, they still weren't placing particularly high on most bills by the end of its touring cycle. ''The Anthropocene Extinction'', on the other hand, sold over double what ''Monolith'' sold and saw their live draw significantly increase to the point where they were regularly selling out shows on headlining tours. By the time that touring cycle ended and the touring cycle for ''Death Atlas'' began, they were one of the biggest acts in death metal.


* DevelopmentHell: There was a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and ''Death Atlas''. This was due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, the need to break in Belisario Dimuzio and Oli Pinard and figure out their writing styles in the context of the band, and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.

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* DevelopmentHell: There was a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and ''Death Atlas''. This was due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, the need to break in Belisario Dimuzio and Oli Pinard and figure out their writing styles in the context of the band, band (as Derek was a prolific writer who was responsible for a lot of material on the past two albums), and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.


* DummiedOut: "An Extreme Indifference to Human Life" was originally supposed to be on ''Death Atlas'' and was the first song from the album that the band ever played live (on a mini-tour en route to the studio), but for whatever reason, the song was cut from both the final album and the main deluxe version and was relegated to a Japanese bonus track.



* NoExportForYou: "World Full of Idiots" (''Karma.Bloody.Karma'') and "No Light and No Life" (''The Anthropocene Extinction'') are both territory-restricted (JP for the former, JP and EU for the latter). "An Exposition of Insides" and "Cannibalistic Invasivorism" subvert this to a limited degree; while they are territory-restricted bonus tracks, they have been made available in the US via limited-run 7" releases. Eventually subverted altogether, as ''Medium Rarities'' had all of the region-specific bonus tracks.

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* NoExportForYou: "World Full of Idiots" (''Karma.Bloody.Karma'') and "No Light and No Life" (''The Anthropocene Extinction'') are both territory-restricted (JP for the former, JP and EU for the latter). "An Exposition of Insides" and "Cannibalistic Invasivorism" subvert this to a limited degree; while they are territory-restricted bonus tracks, they have been made available in the US via limited-run 7" releases. Eventually subverted altogether, as ''Medium Rarities'' had all of the region-specific bonus tracks. Currently played straight with "An Extreme Indifference to Human Life", which is thusfar a Japan-exclusive bonus track on ''Death Atlas''.


* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Ten Torments of the Damned'' has been out of print for almost a decade, as the original clear vinyl pressing from 1997 is almost impossible to find, and the 2010 vinyl reissue was also a limited release. The album was also conspicuously absent from ''Medium Rarities'', suggesting CreatorDiscontinuity.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Ten Torments of the Damned'' has been out of print for almost a decade, as the original clear vinyl pressing from 1997 is almost impossible to find, and the 2010 vinyl reissue was also a limited release. The album was also conspicuously absent from ''Medium Rarities'', suggesting CreatorDiscontinuity.which suggests that they want to give it up.
* MorePopularSpinoff: They started out as a side project of The Locust, but quickly grew to eclipse them.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Ten Torments of the Damned'' has been out of print for almost a decade, as the original clear vinyl pressing from 1997 is almost impossible to find, and the 2010 vinyl reissue was also a limited release. The album was also conspicuously absent from ''Medium Rarities'', suggesting CreatorDiscontinuity.


* BigNameFan: Jon Fishman of Music/{{Phish}} is apparently a fan of the band and has showed up to at least one of their shows in Burlington, and Phish as a whole played a "just for fun" show with Cattle (both bands were in disguise) as Garbage Dick on the 10/1 date of Cattle's fall 2015 tour.

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* BigNameFan: Jon Fishman of Music/{{Phish}} is apparently a fan of the band and has showed up to at least one of their shows in Burlington, and Phish as a whole played a "just for fun" show with Cattle (both bands were in disguise) as Garbage Dick on the 10/1 date of Cattle's fall 2015 tour. They eventually got him to record a spoken word part for "The Unerasable Past" on ''Death Atlas''.


* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved. This was also true with Derek Engemann, as the band and most people who toured with them were sick of his shit and he was an almost universally disliked presence in the industry, and "ego-tripping, duplicitous ass-kisser" is the best way to describe how most people thought of him. If you were a big name, he would do whatever it would take to get into your good graces, and if you weren't, he would either pretend that you didn't exist or treat you like shit. While he left on his own, there was a very good chance that he was only another two or two away from getting thrown out.

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* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved. This was also true with Derek Engemann, as the band and most people who toured with them were sick of his shit and he was an almost universally disliked presence in the industry, and "ego-tripping, duplicitous ass-kisser" is the best way to describe how most people thought of him. If you were a big name, he would do whatever it would take to get into your good graces, and if you weren't, he would either pretend that you didn't exist or treat you like shit. While he left on his own, there was a very good chance that he was only another two tour or two away from getting thrown out.


* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved.

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* CreativeDifferences: Why Dave Astor left, though it was definitely a case of "either this guy goes or the band falls apart" due to extreme levels of internecine that revolved around him shortly before he left. Based on Travis Ryan's opinion of him (here's a hint: he doesn't like him AT ALL), it is unlikely that their differences will be resolved. This was also true with Derek Engemann, as the band and most people who toured with them were sick of his shit and he was an almost universally disliked presence in the industry, and "ego-tripping, duplicitous ass-kisser" is the best way to describe how most people thought of him. If you were a big name, he would do whatever it would take to get into your good graces, and if you weren't, he would either pretend that you didn't exist or treat you like shit. While he left on his own, there was a very good chance that he was only another two or two away from getting thrown out.


* DevelopmentHell: There was a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and ''Death Atlas''. This was due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.

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* DevelopmentHell: There was a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and ''Death Atlas''. This was due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, the need to break in Belisario Dimuzio and Oli Pinard and figure out their writing styles in the context of the band, and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.


* DevelopmentHell: Assuming that it comes out within the second half of 2019 (which is the general slated release timeframe as per WordOfGod), there will have been a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and its followup. This is due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.

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* DevelopmentHell: Assuming that it comes out within the second half of 2019 (which is the general slated release timeframe as per WordOfGod), there will have been There was a four-year gap between ''The Anthropocene Extinction'' and its followup. ''Death Atlas''. This is was due to a mix of heavy touring due to their ''massive'' growth in popularity, the increasingly decentralized nature of the band due to multiple members living far away, and their desire to take a more deliberate approach to songwriting this time around.

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