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* TakeThat: An example lost to time; Strepsiades argues that Zeus throws lightning to smite evil-doers, but Socrates retorts that if he did so, wicked men like Simon, Cleonymus and Theorus wouldn't be alive anymore. That'd be pretty funny, if they hadn't died two thousand years before you read it.

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* TakeThat: An example lost to time; Strepsiades argues that Zeus throws lightning to smite evil-doers, but Socrates retorts that if he did so, wicked men like Simon, Cleonymus and Theorus wouldn't be alive anymore. That'd be pretty funny, if they hadn't died two thousand years before you read it. As it stands, it's only funny if you think about oathbreakers in general.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: While the Wrong Argument is... exactly what his name says, he has some arguments strong enough to make Right Argument admit defeat.
** He is absolutely right about how corrupt Zeus is, and Right Argument can only scream insults at this.
** He also points out most people are corrupt and thus take his side. Right Argument admits defeat right afterwards.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: When the philosophers fail to teach his son properly, Strepsiades sees fit to burn down the Thinkery.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: When the philosophers fail to teach his son properly, or rather teach him ''too well'', Strepsiades sees fit to burn down the Thinkery.Thinkery.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Strepsiades admits to Socrates he would hang himself if it meant getting rid of his debtors. [[spoiler:He does get rid of his debtors at a terrible cost, and when he realizes, it's too late.]]



* PyrrhicVictory: [[spoiler:Strepsiades succeeds at making his son manipulative and driving off his debtors with well-structured nonsense, taught by his son. But then his son turns on him, and even manipulates him into accepting that sons are allowed to hit their fathers and not just the other way round.]]

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* PyrrhicVictory: PyrrhicVictory:
** Strepsiades fails his exam in the final question, because his plan to escape certain conviction is to commit suicide. After all, [[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt if he is dead, they can't convict him]]. Socrates considers the answer stupid due to considering this "victory" not worth death.
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[[spoiler:Strepsiades succeeds at making his son manipulative and driving off his debtors with well-structured nonsense, taught by his son. But then his son turns on him, and even manipulates him into accepting that sons are allowed to hit their fathers and not just the other way round.]]
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* PyrrhicVictory: [[spoiler:Strepsiades succeeds at making his son manipulative and driving off his debtors with well-structured nonsense, taught by his son. But then his son turns on him, and even manipulates him into accepting that sons are allowed to hit their fathers and not just the other way round.]]

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Strepsiades gets out of debt by turning his freeloading, parasitic son into a ManipulativeBastard and setting him the task of persuading his creditors to go away. He now has a freeloading, parasitic ManipulativeBastard of a son to deal with, and things begin to get worse.

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Strepsiades gets out of debt by turning his freeloading, parasitic son into a ManipulativeBastard and setting him the task of persuading his creditors to go away. He now has a freeloading, parasitic ManipulativeBastard of a son to deal with, and things begin to get worse.worse, as his son ''does'' help him drive out the creditors, but then turns on him.



* SolarPoweredMagnifyingGlass: The gods used a set of lenses to ignite the Olympic torch.

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* SolarPoweredMagnifyingGlass: SolarPoweredMagnifyingGlass:
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The gods used a set of lenses to ignite the Olympic torch. torch.
** The only time Strepsiades answers one of the answers in Socrates' exam correctly, he thinks of using a magnifying glass to burn potential incriminating evidence.



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* VolleyingInsults:
** The Arguments keep insulting each other during their argument.
** When Strepsiades' plan to make Pheidippides manipulative backfires, for Pheidippedes starts using his newfound wit on him, the two have an argument full of insults.
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* BoltOfDivineRetribution (discussed): In conversation with Socrates, farmer Strepsiades is baffled by Socrates' proposition that the gods are superstitions, and brings up lightning as evidence for the existence of Zeus, as surely lightning strikes are Zeus hurling his lightning bolts at perjurers. Socrates counters by naming several (according to him) well-known perjurers who never seem to be hit by lightning, and points out that lightning has been known to strike a temple of Zeus and Zeus' own sacred oak trees. He follows up with an (unplausibly convoluted) natural explanation for lightning.
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* GiantsDropletHumanShower: Referenced by Strepsiades in conversation with Socrates when the latter explains to him that the gods do not exist, and that various metereological phenomena, such as rain and thunder, are caused not by gods, but by the clouds. Strepsiades admits that until now, he used to believe that rain is Zeus "pissing through a sieve."

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* GiantsDropletHumanShower: GiantsDropletHumansShower: Referenced by Strepsiades in conversation with Socrates when the latter explains to him that the gods do not exist, and that various metereological phenomena, such as rain and thunder, are caused not by gods, but by the clouds. Strepsiades admits that until now, he used to believe that rain is Zeus "pissing through a sieve."
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* GiantsDropletHumanShower: Referenced by Strepsiades in conversation with Socrates when the latter explains to him that the gods do not exist, and that various metereological phenomena, such as rain and thunder, are caused not by gods, but by the clouds. Strepsiades admits that until now, he used to believe that rain is Zeus "pissing through a sieve."

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* AffectionateParody: ''The Clouds'' affectionately ribs Socrates. They were friends in {{Real Life}}.
** Debatable: Socrates was accused of worshiping new gods and being a sophist in his trial, while this play shows him doing exactly that. It's hard for people nowadays to say whether the play was meant to be ridiculous or if there was some indirect accusations in it that Aristophanes didn't want to bring to court. At very least, it's HarsherInHindsight but it might also be a massive TakeThat that led to some younger people taking Socrates to court themselves.

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* AffectionateParody: ''The Clouds'' affectionately ribs Socrates. They were friends in {{Real Life}}.
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Debatable: Socrates was accused of worshiping new gods and being a sophist in his trial, while this play shows him doing exactly that. It's hard for people nowadays to say whether the play was meant to be ridiculous or if there was some indirect accusations in it that Aristophanes didn't want to bring to court. At very least, it's HarsherInHindsight but it might also be a massive TakeThat that led to some younger people taking Socrates to court themselves.
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* {{NEET}}: Pheidippides starts as this before he goes to the Thinkery.
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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: {{Inverted|Trope}}. According to the play, if you're a good man, your penis will be nice and small. This reflects contemporary Greek values, which idolized prepubescent males ([[CaptainObvious who aren't known for large penises]]).

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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: {{Inverted|Trope}}. According to the play, if you're a good man, your penis will be nice and small. This reflects contemporary Greek values, which idolized prepubescent males ([[CaptainObvious who (who aren't known for large penises]]).penises).
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* TakeThatAudience: In a fourth-wall-breaking moment. While it differs by translation, basically, the personification of Right Argument suggests clean living is important because otherwise you'll have a radish shoved up your ass and people will thing you're a sodomite. The personification of Unjust Argument then points out there must be nothing wrong with being a sodomite, pointing to all of the ones in the audience.

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* TakeThatAudience: In a fourth-wall-breaking moment. While it differs by translation, basically, the personification of Right Argument suggests clean living is important because otherwise you'll have a radish shoved up your ass and people will thing think you're a sodomite. The personification of Unjust Argument then points out there must be nothing wrong with being a sodomite, pointing to all of the ones in the audience.
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* TakeThat: An example lost to time; Strepsiades argues that Zeus throw lightning to smite evil-doers, but Socrates retorts that if he did so Simon, Cleonymus and Theorus wouldn't be alive anymore. That'd be pretty funny, if they hadn't died two thousand years before you read it.

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* TakeThat: An example lost to time; Strepsiades argues that Zeus throw throws lightning to smite evil-doers, but Socrates retorts that if he did so so, wicked men like Simon, Cleonymus and Theorus wouldn't be alive anymore. That'd be pretty funny, if they hadn't died two thousand years before you read it.
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* HeavenAbove: ''The Clouds'' presents Creator/{{Socrates}} as an atheist who denies the existence of [[Myth/ClassicalMythology a god who throws thunderbolts]] in favor of worshipping the clouds who shit out the thunder. As a [[ParodiedTrope parody of Socratic philosophy]], the idea of worshipping clouds, the sky, and other objects of study in place of the actual gods is PlayedForLaughs.
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* GodLivesInTheSky: The play presents Creator/{{Socrates}} as an atheist who denies the existence of [[Myth/ClassicalMythology a god who throws thunderbolts]] in favor of worshipping the clouds who shit out the thunder. As a [[ParodiedTrope parody of Socratic philosophy]], the idea of worshipping clouds, the sky, and other objects of study in place of the actual gods is PlayedForLaughs.
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* TakeThatAudience: In a fourth-wall-breaking moment. While it differs by translation, basically, the personification of Right Argument suggests clean living is important because otherwise you'll have a radish shoved up your ass and people will thing you're a sodomite. The personification of Unjust Argument then points out there must be nothing wrong with being a sodomite, pointing to all of to all the ones in the audience.

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* TakeThatAudience: In a fourth-wall-breaking moment. While it differs by translation, basically, the personification of Right Argument suggests clean living is important because otherwise you'll have a radish shoved up your ass and people will thing you're a sodomite. The personification of Unjust Argument then points out there must be nothing wrong with being a sodomite, pointing to all of to all the ones in the audience.

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