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* Almost as bad is Item Collector. This requires HundredPercentCompletion of all items and equipment lists. The rub here is that ''every enemy in the game'' has a unique equipment drop, and there's no easy way to tell which {{Mooks}} you have and haven't gotten a unique drop from.


* The Achievement for using Ludger's [[SuperMode Chromatus]] transformation a total of 450 times. Annoying to complete because he can only transform, if the Chromatus gauge in the lower right corner is filled to at least Level 1. While that doesn't sound too bad, there are also moments in the game where the player cannot use Chromatus due to plot-events and using Chromatus too many times between Chapter 13 to Chapter 15, results in losing out on the possibility of earning the ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement on that playthrough.
* The ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement itself. As mentioned, it can only be obtained if the player manages to make it through Chapter 13 up until Chapter 15, without using the Chromatus more than 50 times. May sound like a big number, but it's quite small and Chromatus is a very helpful ability to use. There's also plot-mandatory moments where Ludger will transform. Worst part is, [[GuideDangIt nothing]] in the game tells you that this somehow affects a title. Luckily, you can get the "bad ending" of the game which happens much earlier than the real ending (and allows you to return to that save file at the point where you went down the bad-ending story path, to continue for the real ending), allowing you to easily get this achievement since you technically met the requirement.

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* The Achievement for using Ludger's [[SuperMode Chromatus]] transformation a total of 450 times. Annoying to complete because he can only transform, transform if the Chromatus gauge in the lower right corner is filled to at least Level 1. While that doesn't sound too bad, 1, and there are also moments in the game where the player cannot use Chromatus due to plot-events and plot-events. Also, using Chromatus it too many times between Chapter 13 to Chapter 15, 15 results in losing out on the possibility of earning the ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement on that playthrough.
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* The ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement itself. As mentioned, it can only be obtained if the player manages to make makes it through Chapter 13 up until to Chapter 15, 15 without using the Chromatus more than 50 times. May sound like a big number, but it's quite small and Chromatus is a very helpful ability to use.and there's a related achievement for using it 450 times. There's also plot-mandatory moments where Ludger will transform. Worst part is, [[GuideDangIt nothing]] in the game tells you that this somehow affects a title. Luckily, you can get the "bad ending" of the game which happens much earlier than the real ending (and allows you to return to that save file at the point where you went down the bad-ending story path, to continue for the real ending), allowing you to easily get this achievement since you technically met the requirement.


* The Secret Missions stands out, especially if they involve fighting a boss a certain way. The first few are not that difficult, you probably get the first one by accident... and then there's the 17th one, which has difficult timing. You need to use a Guard Breaker arte after a certain point in the battle, watch for the animation, then switch to the character with a certain arte and use it, all within a very short span of time.
** And Yuri's ''True Knight'' costume title is terrible, because it involves doing ''every'' Secret Mission in the game.

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* The Secret Missions stands out, especially if they involve fighting a boss a certain way. The first few are not that difficult, you probably get the first one by accident... and then there's the 17th one, one (18th in the Definitive Edition), which has difficult timing. You need to use a Guard Breaker arte after a certain point in the battle, watch for the animation, then switch to the character with a certain arte and use it, all within a very short span of time.
** And Yuri's ''True Knight'' costume title is terrible, because it involves doing ''every'' Secret Mission in the game.
game. In one playthrough, mind you.


* ''Witness to the Mystic'' involves the player having seen all Mystic Artes in the game. Doesn't sound so bad, since your party's AI can be set to use Mystic Artes themselves or you can quickly take control of them and fulfill the requirements for them to activate, right? It requires you to also see the Mystic Arte of ''bosses'', which is the real issue. Some bosses Mystic Artes are easy to obtain, as they pull them off automatically during [[HopelessBossFight hopeless battles against them]], but the rest are all up to random chance. And some of their Mystic Artes require certain requirements to be fulfilled. Look up a guide.

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* ''Witness The achievement/trophy "Witness to the Mystic'' Mystic", which involves seeing ''every'' Mystic Arte in the player having seen all game. At first, it doesn't sound so bad because you can activate you party members' Mystic Artes in at any time once they've learned them, provided that you do the game. Doesn't sound so bad, since your party's AI can be set to use right requirements. But then you realize that it also takes into account the Mystic Artes themselves or from the bosses as well, and these are the ones that are beyond your control because they activate at random. If you're really good at the battle system, sometimes you can quickly take control of them and fulfill go an entire boss fight ''without'' the requirements for them boss having a chance to activate, right? It requires you to also see the activate his/her Mystic Arte of ''bosses'', Arte, which is can rob you of the real issue. Some bosses opportunity to get this achievement/trophy. Basically, it just comes down to pure luck, and any missed Mystic Artes are easy will mean it's back to obtain, as they pull them off automatically during [[HopelessBossFight hopeless battles against them]], but the rest are all up to random chance. And last save point for you. To top it off, some of their bosses like BonusBoss Phoenix, have ''two'' Mystic Artes require certain requirements to be fulfilled. Look watch out for, and you'll likely not know about their second Mystic Artes unless [[GuideDangIt you look up a guide.guide]].
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* Mixer Maxed, which requires you to max out your Eleth Mixer's capacity at 9999. This one isn't reviled for its difficulty, but just for its sheer length. Eleth grinding is a major slog and even if you religiously use it from the moment you get it AND use the New Game+ perk that makes the job faster, it's not uncommon to have beaten the game multiple times and unlocked every other trophy and still not even be ''halfway'' to completing this one.


** ''Brave Soul'', obtained by not running away from ''any'' battle, until you have defeated Yuan and Botta. About halfway through the game. [[SarcasmMode Joy]], because this includes dungeons where the paths are narrow and it's difficult to avoid battles, even with Holy Bottles.



** ''Brave Soul'', obtained by not running away from ''any'' battle, until you have defeated Yuan and Botta. About halfway through the game. [[SarcasmMode Joy]], because this includes dungeons where the paths are narrow and it's difficult to avoid battles, even with Holy Bottles.


* The aptly named ''Dietician's Nightmare'', for making all 36 snacks in the game. Finding snacks in the various treasure chests doesn't count, it has to be made by a party member. The final snack, Marron Glacé, can only be made having a maxed out Snack Preparation skill, only Sorey, Rose, and Mikleo can make it, and there's not much you can do to influence or increase the chances of the Marron Glacé getting made.

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* The aptly named ''Dietician's Nightmare'', for making all 36 snacks in the game. Finding snacks in the various treasure chests doesn't count, it has to be made by a party member. The final snack, Marron Glacé, can only be made having a maxed out Snack Preparation skill, only Sorey, Rose, and Mikleo can make it, and there's not much you can do to influence or increase the chances of the Marron Glacé getting made.made.

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* ''Witness to the Mystic'' involves the player having seen all Mystic Artes in the game. Doesn't sound so bad, since your party's AI can be set to use Mystic Artes themselves or you can quickly take control of them and fulfill the requirements for them to activate, right? It requires you to also see the Mystic Arte of ''bosses'', which is the real issue. Some bosses Mystic Artes are easy to obtain, as they pull them off automatically during [[HopelessBossFight hopeless battles against them]], but the rest are all up to random chance. And some of their Mystic Artes require certain requirements to be fulfilled. Look up a guide.


* Sheena's titles and Achievements
** The ''Treasure Hunter'' title and trophy. To obtain this title, the player needs to open ''every single treasure chest in the entire game''. That already is a pretty annoying task to complete. It gets worse with the knowledge that proceeding through the game leaves several areas to be [[LostForever inaccessible]]. [[note]]The Palmacosta Human Ranch is the worst, because the treasure chests are invisible, unless you use the Sorcerer Ring's power in the dungeon, which makes the treasure chests appear as white sparkles. And several of those are fake, which trigger an alarm if you try them out and lead to a random battle.[[/note]] The Katz Guild has a service that has information on any missed treasure chests and sending a Katz out to grab them for the player, but the Katz are known to be completely unreliable. The only upside is, that there is a certain Katz that will tell Sheena the percentage of completion on treasure chests, if she talks to him. Except he's in an optional area, not accessible until pretty late in the game and doesn't tell you where you missed anything... [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide and tick everything off meticulously]].

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* Sheena's titles and Achievements
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** The ''Treasure Hunter'' title and trophy. To obtain this title, the player needs to open ''every single treasure chest in the entire game''. That already is a pretty annoying task to complete. It gets worse with the knowledge that proceeding through the game leaves several areas to be [[LostForever [[PermanentlyMissableContent inaccessible]]. [[note]]The Palmacosta Human Ranch is the worst, because the treasure chests are invisible, unless you use the Sorcerer Ring's power in the dungeon, which makes the treasure chests appear as white sparkles. And several of those are fake, which trigger an alarm if you try them out and lead to a random battle.[[/note]] The Katz Guild has a service that has information on any missed treasure chests and sending a Katz out to grab them for the player, but the Katz are known to be completely unreliable. The only upside is, that there is a certain Katz that will tell Sheena the percentage of completion on treasure chests, if she talks to him. Except he's in an optional area, not accessible until pretty late in the game and doesn't tell you where you missed anything... [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide and tick everything off meticulously]].



* The Achievement for completing a total of 90 subevents, out of a total of 102. Doesn't sound too difficult, but some of them are route-exclusive or become [[LostForever inaccessible]] very fast.

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* The Achievement for completing a total of 90 subevents, out of a total of 102. Doesn't sound too difficult, but some of them are route-exclusive or become [[LostForever [[PermanentlyMissableContent inaccessible]] very fast.

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*** This Achievement becomes a lot easier to obtain if the player purchased 'Unlock Skits' from the Grade Shop during a NewGamePlus playthrough which instantly unlocks all the skits for the player to view.


** There's also Colette's ''Dog Lover'' Achievement. In order to get this title, Colette needs to be your on-screen character and she needs to talk and give a name to ''every dog in the game''. Sounds easy enough, except some cities become inaccessible. And one of them is locked behind a lengthy, expensive sidequest.

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** There's also Colette's ''Dog Lover'' Achievement. In order to get this title, Colette needs to be your on-screen character and she needs to talk and give a name to ''every dog in the game''. Sounds easy enough, except some cities become inaccessible. And one of them is locked behind a lengthy, expensive sidequest. [[spoiler:Additionally, attempting to name unnamed dogs when Colette loses her voice will result in VisibleSilence on Colette's part]].


* The ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement itself. As mentioned, it can only be obtained if the player manages to make it through Chapter 13 up until Chapter 15, without using the Chromatus more than 50 times. May sound like a big number, but it's quite small and Chromatus is a very helpful ability to use. There's also plot-mandatory moments where Ludger will transform. Worst part is, [[GuideDangIt nothing]] in the game tells you that this somehow affects a title.

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* The ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement itself. As mentioned, it can only be obtained if the player manages to make it through Chapter 13 up until Chapter 15, without using the Chromatus more than 50 times. May sound like a big number, but it's quite small and Chromatus is a very helpful ability to use. There's also plot-mandatory moments where Ludger will transform. Worst part is, [[GuideDangIt nothing]] in the game tells you that this somehow affects a title. Luckily, you can get the "bad ending" of the game which happens much earlier than the real ending (and allows you to return to that save file at the point where you went down the bad-ending story path, to continue for the real ending), allowing you to easily get this achievement since you technically met the requirement.


** Also his ''Eternal Apprentice'' title. To earn this, Lloyd needs to never change his initially equipped weapon, the Wooden Blade, until the player has defeated Kilia in Palmacosta ''and'' he has to participate in that fight. Since Palmacosta is usually a location and story event that happens somewhat early on, within the first 5 hours of playing, this isn't too bad... let's just hope you didn't accidentally end up on the 'Hard Path' of the game that leaves you to do the events in the north of Sylvarant first, leaving Kilia for much, much later in the game.
** The ''Berserker'' title is, thankfully, not a difficult achievement to get. Merely requires winning 256 battles on Hard or Mania difficulty. Not difficult, but tedious to do.
** His ''Combo'' titles, in general. Getting a 10-Hit Combo is pretty easy. The 30-Hit Combo takes a bit more work, but with a full party and some nice timing, it can be done. It gets tricky with the 60-Hit Combo title, but can be done with a nice combo first and then a good, hit-filled Unison Attack. But the final combo title requires a minimum of a '''100-Hit Combo''', which is downright frustrating to work on, because the enemy may die before you manage to get to a hundred hits. And you need to control Lloyd for this, one of the two characters in the game who ''doesn't'' have an infinite combo.

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** Also his ''Eternal Apprentice'' title. To earn this, Lloyd needs to never change his initially equipped weapon, the Wooden Blade, until the player has defeated Kilia in Palmacosta ''and'' he has to participate in all battles up to and including that fight. Since Palmacosta is usually a location and story event that happens somewhat early on, within the first 5 hours of playing, this isn't too bad... let's just hope you didn't accidentally end up on the 'Hard Path' of the game that leaves you to do the events in the north of Sylvarant first, leaving Kilia for much, much later in the game.
** The ''Berserker'' title is, thankfully, not a difficult achievement to get. Merely requires winning 256 battles on Hard or Mania difficulty. Not difficult, difficult (just fight low-level enemies), but tedious to do.
** His ''Combo'' titles, in general. Getting a 10-Hit Combo is pretty easy. The 30-Hit Combo takes a bit more work, but with a full party and some nice timing, it can be done. It gets tricky with the 60-Hit Combo title, but can be done with a nice combo first and then a good, hit-filled Unison Attack. But the final combo title requires a minimum of a '''100-Hit Combo''', which is downright frustrating to work on, because the enemy may die before you manage to get to a hundred hits. And you need to control Lloyd for this, one of the two characters in the game (the other being Presea) who ''doesn't'' have an infinite combo.



** The ''Treasure Hunter'' title and trophy. To obtain this title, the player needs to open ''every single treasure chest in the entire game''. That already is a pretty annoying task to complete. It gets worse with the knowledge that proceeding through the game leaves several areas to be [[LostForever inaccessible]] hits you. [[note]]The Palmacosta Human Ranch is the worst, because the treasure chests are invisible, unless you use the Sorcerer Ring's power in the dungeon, which makes the treasure chests appear as white sparkles. And several of those are fake, which trigger an alarm if you try them out and lead to a random battle.[[/note]] The Katz Guild has a service that has information on any missed treasure chests and sending a Katz out to grab them for the player, but the Katz are known to be completely unreliable. The only upside is, that there is a certain Katz that will tell Sheena the percentage of completion on treasure chests, if she talks to him. Except he's in an optional area, not accessible until pretty late in the game and doesn't tell you where you missed anything... [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide and tick everything off meticulously]].

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** The ''Treasure Hunter'' title and trophy. To obtain this title, the player needs to open ''every single treasure chest in the entire game''. That already is a pretty annoying task to complete. It gets worse with the knowledge that proceeding through the game leaves several areas to be [[LostForever inaccessible]] hits you.inaccessible]]. [[note]]The Palmacosta Human Ranch is the worst, because the treasure chests are invisible, unless you use the Sorcerer Ring's power in the dungeon, which makes the treasure chests appear as white sparkles. And several of those are fake, which trigger an alarm if you try them out and lead to a random battle.[[/note]] The Katz Guild has a service that has information on any missed treasure chests and sending a Katz out to grab them for the player, but the Katz are known to be completely unreliable. The only upside is, that there is a certain Katz that will tell Sheena the percentage of completion on treasure chests, if she talks to him. Except he's in an optional area, not accessible until pretty late in the game and doesn't tell you where you missed anything... [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide and tick everything off meticulously]].



** The ''Party Comboist'' and ''Combo Conductor''. The former requires the player to control her and use two Unison Attacks in one battle, which is more difficult than it sounds, unless you have the Lucky Unison Ex-Skill on her and got lucky, leaving the bar filled after starting one Unison Attack. The latter is achieved by using only Unison Attacks to win a battle.

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** The ''Party Comboist'' and ''Combo Conductor''. The former requires the player to control her and use two Unison Attacks in one battle, which is more difficult than it sounds, unless you have the Lucky Unison Ex-Skill "Lucky Unison" EX Skill on her and got lucky, leaving the bar filled after starting one Unison Attack. The latter is achieved by using only Unison Attacks to win a battle. (Hint: Prism Stars is the most powerful Unison Attack in the game and hits everywhere. Go into a battle with low-level enemies with a full Unison Attack bar, start up a Unison Attack and finish with Prism Stars to hopefully wipe out everything.)



** The ''Friendship First'' title is obtained by having ''no [=KOs=]'' in your game, until you defeat the boss of the Light Seal. And while the Light Seal can be done a bit earlier than usual, it also counts as the 'Hard Path' of the game, so it balances out the advantage of doing it early.

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** The ''Friendship First'' title is obtained by having ''no [=KOs=]'' in your game, until you defeat the boss of the Light Seal.Iubaris. And while the Light Seal can be done a bit earlier than usual, it also counts as the 'Hard Path' of the game, so it balances out the advantage of doing it early.



** ''I Hate Gels'' will be so annoying to players, you will want to rename it to ''I Hate This Achievement''. In order to obtain this title, the player needs to go through every battle up to fighting Pronyma on the Fooji Mountains ''without using ANY gels during battle''! And Pronyma is fought after a good chunk of the first arc is over, so you need to make it through quite a lot of difficult boss battles without relying on them.
** ''Dependent'' for him, too. The player needs to control Genis for one battle and not do anything. No attacking, no blocking, no moving, no using items, ''nothing''. Either try to get this early on with enemies who aren't the Ladybugs that like to fly across the field and dive-bomb onto him or wait until much later in the game and go back to the first area and have your overpowered party deal with weak enemies in two seconds.

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** ''I Hate Gels'' Gels!'' will be so annoying to players, you will want to rename it to ''I Hate This Achievement''. In order to obtain this title, the player needs to go through every battle up to fighting Pronyma on the Fooji Mountains ''without using ANY gels during battle''! And Pronyma is fought after a good chunk of the first arc is over, so you need to make it through quite a lot of difficult boss battles without relying on them.
them. This means that essentially the only way you can heal in battle is either with healing spells or Life Bottles.
** ''Dependent'' for him, too. The player needs to control Genis for one battle and not do anything. No attacking, no blocking, no moving, no using items, no getting hit, ''nothing''. Either try to get this early on with enemies who aren't the Ladybugs that like to fly across the field and dive-bomb onto him or wait until much later in the game and go back to the first area and have your overpowered party deal with weak enemies in two seconds.



** ''Gigolo'' is similar to Colette's. In order to obtain it, Zelos needs to be your on-screen character and he needs to talk to ''every woman in the entire game''. Same problem as above, except some women do not appear in cities until after a certain point in the story. And others disappear. [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide]]... or make use of a bug where you leave the penultimate dungeon after defeating certain bosses, but before obtaining a necessary item, and backtrack to Zelos' home and talk to his butler, gaining the title the cheat-easy way.
** ''Loudmouth'' for Zelos is tedious, at most. He needs to talk ''a lot'' during one battle (50 times, in fact). Thank goodness for Ex-Skills like Taunt or changing strategies.

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** ''Gigolo'' is similar to Colette's. In order to obtain it, Zelos needs to be your on-screen character and he needs to talk to ''every woman female NPC in the entire game''.game'' with his "Personal" EX skill equipped. Same problem as above, except some women do not appear in cities until after a certain point in the story. And others disappear. [[GuideDangIt Grab a guide]]... or make use of a bug where you leave the penultimate dungeon after defeating certain bosses, but before obtaining a necessary item, and backtrack to Zelos' home and talk to his butler, gaining the title the cheat-easy way.
** ''Loudmouth'' for Zelos is tedious, at most. He needs to talk ''a lot'' during one battle (50 times, in fact). Thank goodness for Ex-Skills EX Skills like Taunt or changing strategies.



** Her ''Grown-Up Kid'' title, which involves an obscure sidequest with a very precise beginning phase and easy to miss.

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** Her ''Grown-Up Kid'' title, which involves an obscure sidequest with a very precise and easy-to-miss beginning phase and easy to miss.phase.



* The skit-based titles, because several of them are easy to miss because they don't appear, unless you stay in a specific location long enough. This includes ''Idiot Chosen'' for Zelos, ''Paw Mania'' for Presea and ''Paw Dandy'' for Regal. The only one that is kind about this is a title for Kratos, which is automatically obtained after he joins your party a third and final time on his route.

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* The skit-based titles, because several of them are easy to miss because they don't appear, unless you stay in a specific location long enough. This includes ''Idiot Chosen'' for Zelos, ''Paw Mania'' for Presea and ''Paw Dandy'' for Regal. The only one that is kind about this is a title for Kratos, Kratos ([[spoiler:''Dad'']]), which is automatically obtained after he joins your party a third and final time on his route.



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* The Achievements for upgrading every Shop's Level to 100. Requires lots of grinding for resources in the fields and more grinding, if the game [[GuideDangIt decides to not be nice and give you a triple experience bonus in the shop you need to upgrade]]. And if one doesn't want to rely on randomized boni, the player will need to grind the BonusDungeon several times for specific drops that give good experience for the shops, but never get a bonus.


With so many games and so many Achievements to do, the Tales Series is notorious for having at least three of these in each game. And most of them require multiple playthroughs

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With so many games and so many Achievements to do, the Tales Series is notorious for having at least three of these in each game. And most of them require multiple playthroughsplaythroughs.


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* The Achievement for using Ludger's [[SuperMode Chromatus]] transformation a total of 450 times. Annoying to complete because he can only transform, if the Chromatus gauge in the lower right corner is filled to at least Level 1. While that doesn't sound too bad, there are also moments in the game where the player cannot use Chromatus due to plot-events and using Chromatus too many times between Chapter 13 to Chapter 15, results in losing out on the possibility of earning the ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement on that playthrough.
* The ''Chromatus Control'' Achievement itself. As mentioned, it can only be obtained if the player manages to make it through Chapter 13 up until Chapter 15, without using the Chromatus more than 50 times. May sound like a big number, but it's quite small and Chromatus is a very helpful ability to use. There's also plot-mandatory moments where Ludger will transform. Worst part is, [[GuideDangIt nothing]] in the game tells you that this somehow affects a title.


* The ''Forever Besties'' trophy, a trophy only unlocked if all of the Xillia cast has maximum Affinity with Ludger ''and'' all their Character Episodes have been completed. Since even [[GuideDangIt using a guide to always give the right answers during skits and their Character Episodes]] often leaves the character with 6 out of 10 Affinity, this either means the player needs to grind the debt repayment rewards or Poker for Friendship Potions to get those last levels together or will need to wait until New Game Plus and carry over Affinity to get max Affinity, which means having to ''redo'' the Character Episodes. Either option is infuriatingly grindy.

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* The ''Forever Besties'' trophy, a trophy only unlocked if all of the Xillia cast has maximum Affinity with Ludger ''and'' all their Character Episodes have been completed. Since even [[GuideDangIt using a guide to always give the right answers during skits and their Character Episodes]] often leaves the character with 6 out of 10 Affinity, this either means the player needs to grind the debt repayment rewards or Poker for Friendship Potions to get those last levels together or will need to wait until New Game Plus and carry over Affinity to get max Affinity, which means having to ''redo'' the Character Episodes. Either option is infuriatingly grindy.grindy.

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* The aptly named ''Dietician's Nightmare'', for making all 36 snacks in the game. Finding snacks in the various treasure chests doesn't count, it has to be made by a party member. The final snack, Marron Glacé, can only be made having a maxed out Snack Preparation skill, only Sorey, Rose, and Mikleo can make it, and there's not much you can do to influence or increase the chances of the Marron Glacé getting made.

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