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* The first indications we get of Lewis's upcoming descent, are the broken way he talks about how in spite of fighting for this country, he feels the country doesn't have a place for him.

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* The first indications we get of Lewis's upcoming descent, descent are the broken way he talks about how in spite of fighting for this country, he feels the country doesn't have a place for him.



* Karen's whole "and where does it end, Frank?" discussion with him by the pier. It's pretty clear she doesn't want to see Frank go down the same self-destructive path that as she's seen it, gotten Matt killed.
** The story that Frank tells Karen about his his son. Frank not only feels he got his family killed being with them but that he failed them as a protector.
** After telling the story Frank - in not a angry tone but a sad "almost like he’s about to breakdown himself" tone - tells Karen that he ''has'' to kill all the people responsible for the death of his family. Frank, as much as he probably wants to, can’t let this go and Karen, for all her protest, ''knows'' he can’t.

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* Karen's whole "and where does it end, Frank?" discussion with him by the pier. It's pretty clear she doesn't want to see Frank go down the same self-destructive path that that, as she's seen it, gotten Matt killed.
** The story that Frank tells Karen about his his son. Frank not only feels he got his family killed being with them but that he failed them as a protector.
** After telling the story Frank - in not a an angry tone but a sad "almost like he’s about to breakdown himself" tone - tells Karen that he ''has'' to kill all the people responsible for the death of his family. Frank, as much as he probably wants to, can’t let this go and Karen, for all her protest, ''knows'' he can’t.



* It is hard not to feel bad for Leo. She has been a sweet girl through out the season. Tried so hard to keep her family together (learning how to fix stuffs and keep best grade at school) despite being a little girl and the seemingly loss of her father. Yet she got punched in the face by her brother in earlier episode. Now out of nowhere her mother and brother get abducted by two of Billy's men disguised as police officers. The frightened, lost and confused look on her face as she wandered in a park will make you shed a tear for her.

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* It is hard not to feel bad for Leo. She has been a sweet girl through out throughout the season. Tried so hard to keep her family together (learning how to fix stuffs and keep best grade at school) despite being a little girl and the seemingly loss of her father. Yet she got punched in the face by her brother in earlier episode. Now out of nowhere her mother and brother get abducted by two of Billy's men disguised as police officers. The frightened, lost and confused look on her face as she wandered in a park will make you shed a tear for her.



* Toward the end of Frank's big fight with Russo. After breaking Russo's arm and brutally running half his face of broken glass, Frank has Russo by the hair and a knife at his throat. While Russo had done some terrible things, this moment just before frank ends the fight is very hard hitting. These two men used to be friends and Russo did genuinely care about Frank and his family. The beginning of the episode showed how close Russo was with Frank and his family. Now the both of them are a mess, severely twisted and broken inside. When Frank has Russo look at himself in the mirror, Russo's look is one of despair and pain. While he may have been asking Frank to kill his so that he could die like a soldier and not have to face the consequences, it also seemed like Russo had a bit of a HeelRealization and understood that he had become a true monster.

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* Toward the end of Frank's big fight with Russo. After breaking Russo's arm and brutally running half his face of broken glass, Frank has Russo by the hair and a knife at his throat. While Russo had done some terrible things, this moment just before frank Frank ends the fight is very hard hitting. These two men used to be friends and Russo did genuinely care about Frank and his family. The beginning of the episode showed how close Russo was with Frank and his family. Now the both of them are a mess, severely twisted and broken inside. When Frank has Russo look at himself in the mirror, Russo's look is one of despair and pain. While he may have been asking Frank to kill his so that he could die like a soldier and not have to face the consequences, it also seemed like Russo had a bit of a HeelRealization and understood that he had become a true monster.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Admit it, your face matched his.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Admit it, your face matched his.]][[caption-width-right:350:'''''[[AintTooProudToBeg "WAITWAITWAITWAITWAIT!!!"]]''''']]
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* The Showdown Trailer for Season 2 reveals Frank falling in love with a local bartender, so much so that it seems he'll finally be able to move on, and leave the Punisher behind. Said-bartender is shot in a shootout that ensues when some patrons start a fight while trying to kidnap Amy.
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* Frank in general in the first half of the episode. He had just wiped out everyone involved in the death of his family (...[[CIAEvilFBIGood almost]], anyway), and had set his old skull vest on fire. Then, six months later, he becomes a member of a demolition crew...[[AndThenWhat and has no other idea what to do with his life.]] He vents his rage towards the walls he smashes with his sledgehammer, roaring out as he suffers flashbacks of his family nonstop. Feeling unable to cope, feeling unable to move on. When not a OneManArmy against crime, Frank Castle is simply a stagnantly mourning, broken man. His vigilante alias is all he had left, and he let it burn away to nothing. [[TragicHero He's nothing without the Punisher.]]

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* Frank in general in the first half of the episode. He had just wiped out everyone involved in the death of his family (...[[CIAEvilFBIGood almost]], almost, anyway), and had set his old skull vest on fire. Then, six months later, he becomes a member of a demolition crew...[[AndThenWhat and has no other idea what to do with his life.]] He vents his rage towards the walls he smashes with his sledgehammer, roaring out as he suffers flashbacks of his family nonstop. Feeling unable to cope, feeling unable to move on. When not a OneManArmy against crime, Frank Castle is simply a stagnantly mourning, broken man. His vigilante alias is all he had left, and he let it burn away to nothing. [[TragicHero He's nothing without the Punisher.]]
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** Senator David Schultz is brutally confronted by just what massive {{Hypocrite}}s and assholes his parents were--even getting an epiphany that maybe they didn't really care about him as a person, but more as a tool of their personal ambition and self-serving legacy. He definitely went out of the ordeal shaken in his self-identity. It's probably not unreasonable that he may take his parents' death under Frank a bit more detached--which no RealLife offspring really deserves to experience.

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** Senator David Schultz is brutally confronted by just what massive {{Hypocrite}}s and assholes his parents were--even getting an epiphany that maybe they didn't really care about him as a person, but more as a tool of their personal ambition and self-serving legacy.legacy (as well as being ashamed of his homosexuality). He definitely went out of the ordeal shaken in his self-identity. It's probably not unreasonable that he may take his parents' death under Frank a bit more detached--which no RealLife offspring really deserves to experience.
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* Frank kidnaps David Schultz and attempts to interrogate him about what Pilgrim is doing. David quickly breaks down into tears as he had no idea his family had been involved with so many murders.

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---> '''Curtis:''' You wanna know why? I'll tell you why. Cause every time I'm talking to them, I'm talking to myself. You think I don't wake up screaming? Thinking on what I used to be?

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---> '''Curtis:''' You wanna know why? I'll tell you why. Cause every time I'm talking to them, I'm talking to myself. You think I don't wake up screaming? Thinking on what I used to be?be? Wish for it? Shit. I got my ass beat by a kid.\\
'''Frank:''' It's not your fault.\\
'''Curt:''' You ever feel helpless? I have.

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