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* Early in ''Ship of the Line'', there's one fragment of dialogue which might come off as mere foreshadowing to the perceptive when the books are read in publication order, but gets a lot more poignant when read in chronological order, especially with a fresh memory of the events between ''Lieutenant'' and ''Atropos'':

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* Early in ''Ship of the Line'', there's one fragment of dialogue which might come off as mere foreshadowing to the perceptive when the books are read in publication order, but gets a lot more poignant when read (re-)read in chronological order, especially with a fresh memory of the events between ''Lieutenant'' and ''Atropos'':
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* Early in ''Ship of the Line'', there's one fragment of dialogue which might come off as mere foreshadowing to the perceptive when the books are read in publication order, but gets a lot more poignant when read in chronological order, especially with a fresh memory of the events between ''Lieutenant'' and ''Atropos'':
--> '''Maria:''' We have few enough nights together left to us now, darling.

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* At the end of "The Frogs and the Lobsters", Hornblower realizes that the destruction of Muzillac, the slaughter of the royalist force, and the utter futility of the expedition will all warrant no more than a few sentences in the British papers.



* The death of [[spoiler:Lieutenant Mound]] near the very end of ''The Commodore'' is a real gut punch. Likable, as clever as young Hornblower, and an excellent officer. Hornblower [[ItsAllMyFault blames himself keenly]] for not having recalled the mission just five minutes earlier. It's one of the only times ''[[TheStoic Bush]]'' is visibly emotional at a death.

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* The death of [[spoiler:Lieutenant Mound]] Lieutenant Mound near the very end of ''The Commodore'' is a real gut punch. Likable, as clever as young Hornblower, and an excellent officer. Hornblower [[ItsAllMyFault blames himself keenly]] for not having recalled the mission just five minutes earlier. It's one of the only times ''[[TheStoic Bush]]'' is visibly emotional at a death.
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* The description of Hornblower's bleak misery in the first ''Mr. Midshipman Hornblower" story, "The Even Chance." The narrator sympathetically notes that none of the personal information Hornblower is forced to give under Simpson's "Inquisition" is that bad, but when you're a sensitive boy of seventeen with no friends, it does feel like the end of the world. With the tyrannical Simpson, no relief in mental or physical activity, and no prospect of this ever changing, young Hornblower soon begins to cherish his own suicidal thoughts as the only relief from his unhappiness.
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* Pellew's reaction to Horatio reporting the boat crew's exposure to the BlackDeath in "The Examination for Lieutenant." He snaps at Bracegirdle's ''sotto voce'' statement that the men are already dead, but he clearly believes it himself and he has to exert all his self-control to carry on a professional conversation about how this affects the resupply mission. Even so, it's only the distance between the ship and the boat that conceals Pellew's horror from Horatio.
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* "The Wrong War"/"The Frogs and the Lobsters": Their relationship may be a RomanticPlotTumour but Horatio's reaction to [[spoiler: Mariette's death]] makes it hard not to want to hug him.

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* "The Wrong War"/"The Frogs and the Lobsters": Their relationship may be a RomanticPlotTumour but Horatio's reaction to [[spoiler: Mariette's death]] death makes it hard not to want to hug him.
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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, and Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: From the courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, through Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, and Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: From the courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, through Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] friend. The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.



** When he is about to hand Betsy over to the Americans, without her husband, [[spoiler: Napoleon's brother, who is to be returned to the French]], Betsy [[WhatTheHellHero tells him that she pities his wife.]] Hornblower replies simply that he does too, but that he is the man she married. He realizes what he is doing is a dick move of epic proportions, but his sense of duty means that he sees no possibility but to carry out his orders.

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** * When he Hornblower is about to hand Betsy over to the Americans, without her husband, [[spoiler: Napoleon's brother, who is to be returned to the French]], Betsy [[WhatTheHellHero tells him that she pities his wife.]] Hornblower replies simply that he does too, but that he is the man she married. He realizes what he is doing is a dick move of epic proportions, but his sense of duty means that he sees no possibility but to carry out his orders.

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* ''Lord Hornblower'' reminds us that for all his success, Hornblower is very much an IronWoobie for what the universe inflicts upon him. First, [[spoiler: Captain Bush]] is killed off-screen while leading a mission Hornblower ordered, and near the book's climax, [[spoiler: Hornblower's mistress Mariette]] dies of a gunshot wound while fighting Republican forces as part of a Royalist guerilla band.

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* ''Lord Hornblower'' reminds us that for all his success, Hornblower is very much an IronWoobie for what the universe inflicts upon him. First, [[spoiler: Captain Bush]] is killed off-screen while leading a mission Hornblower ordered, and near the book's climax, [[spoiler: Hornblower's mistress Mariette]] Marie Ladon]] dies of a gunshot wound while fighting Republican forces as part of a Royalist guerilla band.

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* ''Lord Hornblower'' reminds us that for all his success, Hornblower is very much an IronWoobie for what the universe inflicts upon him. First, [[spoiler: Captain Bush]] is killed off-screen while leading a mission Hornblower ordered, and near the book's climax, [[spoiler: Hornblower's mistress Mariette]] dies of a gunshot wound while fighting Republican forces as part of a Royalist guerilla band.
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* Longley repeating "I'm ''not'' scared, I'm ''not'' scared," while the ''Sutherland'' is being blasted into a wreck by the French squadron at the end of ''Ship of the Line''. Hornblower tries to reassure him, but as soon as he's done speaking, the boy is struck in the chest by a cannonball. This is not very long after Hornblower had privately thought he would be happy to have a son like Longley and would have promoted him acting-lieutenant.
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* The last paragraph of ''Hornblower and the Atropos,'' in which Hornblower returns from a voyage and discovers both his children dying of smallpox.

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* The last paragraph of ''Hornblower and the Atropos,'' in which Atropos.'' After having his ship snatched out from under him and getting sent back to England, Hornblower returns from a voyage consoles himself that he'll at least be able to spend some time with his family... and he soon discovers that both his children are dying of smallpox.
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* The death of [[spoiler:Lieutenant Mound]] near the very end of ''The Commodore'' is a real gut punch. Likable, as clever as young Hornblower, and an excellent officer. Hornblower [[ItsAllMyFault blames himself keenly]] for not having recalled the mission just five minutes earlier. It's one of the only times ''[[TheStoic Bush]]'' is visibly emotional at a death.
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* The last paragraph of ''Hornblower and the Atropos,'' in which Hornblower returns from a voyage and discovers both his children dying of smallpox.
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** When he is about to hand Betsy over to the Americans, without her husband, [[spoiler: Napoleon's brother, who is to be returned to the French]], Betsy [[WhatTheHellHero tells him that she pities his wife.]] Hornblower replies simply that he does too, but that he is the man she married. He realizes what he is doing is a dick move of epic proportions, but his sense of duty means that he sees no possibility but to carry out his orders.
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* There is a scene in ''Ship of the Line'' where the ''Sutherland'' comes upon a column of Napoleon's troops marching on a coastal road. For a few paragraphs, the point-of-view switches to the troops who are mostly conscipts, hot, tired, and welcome the diversion of watching a pretty ship while they march, going so far as to ''wave'' at it. [[KickTheDog And then Hornblower opens fire on them]]. WarIsHell, indeed.

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* There is a scene in ''Ship of the Line'' where the ''Sutherland'' comes upon a column of Napoleon's troops marching on a coastal road. For a few paragraphs, the point-of-view switches to the troops who are mostly conscipts, hot, tired, and conscipts. They quite welcome the diversion sight of watching a pretty ship while they march, going so far as to ''wave'' a distraction on their long, hot march and even start waving at it. [[KickTheDog And then Hornblower opens fire on them]]. WarIsHell, indeed.
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* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convinced: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming as Horatio insists that he does.

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* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convinced: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming Moment as Horatio insists that he does.
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* There is a scene in ''Ship of the Line'' where the ''Sutherland'' comes upon a column of Napoleon's troops marching on a coastal road. For a few paragraphs, the point-of-view switches to the troops who are mostly conscipts, hot, tired, and welcome the diversion of watching a pretty ship while they march, going so far as to ''wave'' at it. [[KickTheDog And then Hornblower opens fire on them]]. WarIsHell, indeed.
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* The scene at Clayton's deathbed from "The Even Chance" is heart-wrenching. Clayton's sorry he's dying so very young and feels shamed by Horatio who was more courageous when dealing with their nemesis. He's sorry he didn't kill Simpson.
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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, and Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, to Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, and Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The From the courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, to through Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* The scene in "The Wrong War" when after Archie saves Horatio from being blown up with a bridge, Major Edrington tells Archie gently, "And just... take care of [Horatio], will you?" Obviously understanding that Horatio needs emotional support, big time, and that Archie is the friend who can give it to him.
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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, but Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, to Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, but and Horatio didn't see it at all. As soon as the battle is over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's from hanging, to Archie's death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
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* The scene in "The Wrong War" when after Archie saves Horatio from being blown up with a bridge, Major Edrington tells Archie gently, "And just ... take care of [Horatio], will you?" Obviously understanding that Horatio needs emotional support, big time, and that Archie is the friend who can give it to him.
* "Mutiny": Poor young Mr. Wellard, beating beaten up constantly because of the crazy captain. As Archie put it, ''it is injustice''. Poor lamb.
* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'' has ended. Complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, but Horatio didn't see it at all, and as soon as the battle is over he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life and career, to Archie's death, his tearful smile and goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* The scene in "The Wrong War" when after Archie saves Horatio from being blown up with a bridge, Major Edrington tells Archie gently, "And just ...just... take care of [Horatio], will you?" Obviously understanding that Horatio needs emotional support, big time, and that Archie is the friend who can give it to him.
* "Mutiny": Poor young Mr. Wellard, beating beaten up constantly because of the crazy captain. As Archie put it, ''it is injustice''. Poor lamb.
lamb. Break the Cutie indeed.
* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'' has ended. Complete ''Renown'', complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, but Horatio didn't see it at all, and as all. As soon as the battle is over over, he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices, notices that Archie is not quite all right, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie falsely confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life and career, from hanging, to Archie's death, death with his tearful smile and sad, sad goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
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* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convinced: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.

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* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convinced: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] Heartwarming as Horatio insists that he does.

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* From "Retribution": Everything from Horatio asking "Is that your [[spoiler: blood?" to the courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life, to Archie's death, and Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convince: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.
* "The Wrong War/The Frogs and the Lobsters": Their relationship may be a [[RomanticPlotTumour Romantic Plot Tumour]] but Horatio's reaction to [[spoiler: Mariette's death]] makes it hard not to want to hug him.
* In "Mutiny": Poor young Mr. Wellard, beating beaten up constantly because of the crazy captain. As Archie put it, ''it is injustice''. Poor lamb.
* Much of Horatio's interaction with Maria in the seventh and eighth instalments. He's so obviously not as interested in her as she is in him, and even when [[spoiler: he marries her]] his affection seems much more like sympathy or pity and a sense of obligation than anything else. You've really got to feel sorry for the poor girl.

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* From "Retribution": Everything from Horatio asking "Is that your [[spoiler: blood?" to the courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life, to Archie's death, and Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convince: convinced: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.
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* "The Wrong War/The War"/"The Frogs and the Lobsters": Their relationship may be a [[RomanticPlotTumour Romantic Plot Tumour]] RomanticPlotTumour but Horatio's reaction to [[spoiler: Mariette's death]] makes it hard not to want to hug him.
* In The scene in "The Wrong War" when after Archie saves Horatio from being blown up with a bridge, Major Edrington tells Archie gently, "And just ... take care of [Horatio], will you?" Obviously understanding that Horatio needs emotional support, big time, and that Archie is the friend who can give it to him.
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"Mutiny": Poor young Mr. Wellard, beating beaten up constantly because of the crazy captain. As Archie put it, ''it is injustice''. Poor lamb.
* "Retribution": The rest of the movie after the battle aboard the ''Renown'' has ended. Complete with some in-universe MoodWhiplash. The audience saw Archie get shot but we never knew how serious the wound would be, but Horatio didn't see it at all, and as soon as the battle is over he and Archie are chatting, poking a bit of fun at Buckland... then Horatio looks over at his friend, notices, asks "Is that your blood?" and it goes downhill from there. [[spoiler: The courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life and career, to Archie's death, his tearful smile and goodbye, to Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
* Much of Horatio's interaction with Maria in the seventh "Loyalty" and eighth instalments."Duty". He's so obviously not as interested in her as she is in him, and even when [[spoiler: he marries her]] his affection seems much more like sympathy or pity and a sense of obligation than anything else. You've really got to feel sorry for the poor girl.
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* "The Duchess and the Devil": "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.

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* "The Duchess and the Devil": Archie's being convince: "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.



* Also, much of Horatio's interaction with Maria in the seventh and eighth instalments. He's so obviously not as interested in her as she is in him, and even when [[spoiler: he marries her]] his affection seems much more like sympathy or pity and a sense of obligation than anything else. You've really got to feel sorry for the poor girl.

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* Also, much Much of Horatio's interaction with Maria in the seventh and eighth instalments. He's so obviously not as interested in her as she is in him, and even when [[spoiler: he marries her]] his affection seems much more like sympathy or pity and a sense of obligation than anything else. You've really got to feel sorry for the poor girl.
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* From "Retribution": Everything from [[spoiler: Horatio asking "Is that your blood?" to the courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life, to Archie's death and Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.

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* From "Retribution": Everything from [[spoiler: Horatio asking "Is that your [[spoiler: blood?" to the courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life, to Archie's death death, and Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
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* From "Retribution": Everything from [[spoiler: Horatio asking "Is that your blood?" to the courtroom scene in which Archie confesses to mutiny, saving Horatio's life, to Archie's death and Horatio's obvious devastation at losing his closest friend.]] The last fifteen minutes or so of "Retribution" are one big sob-fest.
* "The Duchess and the Devil": "You don't need me." Fortunately also a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] as Horatio insists that he does.
* "The Wrong War/The Frogs and the Lobsters": Their relationship may be a [[RomanticPlotTumour Romantic Plot Tumour]] but Horatio's reaction to [[spoiler: Mariette's death]] makes it hard not to want to hug him.
* In "Mutiny": Poor young Mr. Wellard, beating beaten up constantly because of the crazy captain. As Archie put it, ''it is injustice''. Poor lamb.
* Also, much of Horatio's interaction with Maria in the seventh and eighth instalments. He's so obviously not as interested in her as she is in him, and even when [[spoiler: he marries her]] his affection seems much more like sympathy or pity and a sense of obligation than anything else. You've really got to feel sorry for the poor girl.
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