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* The crashed tour bus. Turns out the day the bombs hit, they were given a school group a tour. You find a whole bunch of children's skeletons, all innocent victims dead because of the war. [[ArcWords War. War never changes.]]

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* The crashed tour bus. Turns out the day the bombs hit, they were given a school group a tour. You find a whole bunch of children's skeletons, all innocent victims dead because of the war. [[ArcWords War. War never changes.]]]] Itís worse and better than what caused the founding of the Little Lamplighters. They survived their school trip, but had to suffer after the apocalypse to take care of themselves when the adults died, and werenít allowed into Vault 87. Though that turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

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* Speaking of Nipton, the fate of the town is awful, even if the people werenít good. They sold each other out. The sex, gambling and drugs could someday have been abandoned once they got wealthy enough to start a proper town, maybe even like Goodsprings. Itís possible they would have become better and started to make a new civilization...but because of their vices and the Legion showing up, all that potential is gone. All thatís left is a man who was crippled (and who can be made to overdose on Med-X) and a Powder Ganger whoís all on his own after the ďlotteryĒ.


** Even worse if you believe what Ulysses said - that the Courier helped build the Divide by bringing supplies to it. That it was your home as much as it was Ulysses'.
-->"You can go home, courier."

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** Even worse if you believe what Ulysses said - that the Courier helped build the Divide by bringing supplies to it. [[NotSoDifferent That it was your home as much as it was Ulysses'.
-->"You can go home, courier."
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** Even worse if you believe what Ulysses said - that the Courier helped build the Divide by bringing supplies to it. That it was your home as much as it was Ulysses'.
-->"You can go home, courier."


* Camp Mccarran has a Widowed member, Private Christina Morales, holding a gun. Her husband, Ranger Esteban was killed, and the NCR brass have every intention of leaving behind his body. If you didn't stop by, imagine how badly this could have turned out.



* Dean Domino himself, despite being a greedy Jerkass, has a rather somber ending if he dies. Which he probably will if you haven't spent the entire time kissing his ass.

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* Dean Domino himself, despite being a greedy Jerkass, {{jerkass}}, has a rather somber ending if he dies. Which he probably will if you haven't spent the entire time kissing his ass.

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* Camp Mccarran has a Widowed member, Private Christina Morales, holding a gun. Her husband, Ranger Esteban was killed, and the NCR brass have every intention of leaving behind his body. If you didn't stop by, imagine how badly this could have turned out.


* It's hard to really find a way to keep everyone happy. Mr. House just wanted to save a part of his world, literally worked his ass off doing it (as well as a few other parts), and... three out of the four end paths require you to kill him. And it's hard to not feel for the Brotherhood when your favorite companion is Veronica... but you wouldn't know from the game that [[DummiedOut you need a mod to keep them alive with House in charge]]. About the only ones who have a 'good' way out in all endings (save Legion) are the Followers and the Kings. And you have to be careful with the Kings.

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* It's hard to really find a way to keep everyone happy. Mr. House just wanted to save a part of his world, literally worked his ass off doing it (as well as a few other parts), and... [[CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption three out of the four end paths require you to either kill him.him or disconnect him and leave him to slowly die from infection]]. And it's hard to not feel for the Brotherhood when your favorite companion is Veronica... but you wouldn't know from '''must''' destroy the game that [[DummiedOut you need a mod to keep them alive Brotherhood when allying with House in charge]].House. About the only ones who have a 'good' way out in all endings (save Legion) are the Followers and the Kings. And you have to be careful with the Kings.


** Cut content actually has ''maimed'' NCR troopers laid near or on top of landmines in the No-Man's Land between Forlorn Hope and Nelson. The troopers are barely conscious, missing at least one arm and leg, and begging to be [[MercyKill put out of their misery]].

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** Cut content actually has Before a patch removed them, there were ''maimed'' NCR troopers laid near or on top of landmines in the No-Man's Land between Forlorn Hope and Nelson. The troopers are barely conscious, missing at least one arm and leg, and begging to be [[MercyKill put out of their misery]].



* Veronica's quest, where she tries to convince her Elder to open the Brotherhood to the outside world. You just know she won't convince poor stubborn-but-well-meaning Elder [=MacNamara=], but it's heartbreaking to listen to her get all [[SarcasmFailure quiet and desperate]] as she tries.

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* Veronica's quest, where she tries to convince her Elder to open the Brotherhood to the outside world. You just know she won't convince poor stubborn-but-well-meaning Elder [=MacNamara=], [=McNamara=] (and has even less of a chance to convince Hardin), but it's heartbreaking to listen to her get all [[SarcasmFailure quiet and desperate]] as she tries.



-->'''[=MacNamara=]:''' [sadly] [[WhamLine I know.]]

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-->'''[=MacNamara=]:''' -->'''[=McNamara=]:''' [sadly] [[WhamLine I know.]]



** Craig sounds genuinely sad when you finally get him to open up, which makes it that much worse. He tries to hide it, but you can hear it in his voice.

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** Craig Boone sounds genuinely sad when you finally get him to open up, which makes it that much worse. He tries to hide it, but you can hear it in his voice.


** Chris Haversam, the man who walked out of the vault mentioned above, is a case himself. He was assigned to work on the vault's reactor, and became convinced he'd become a ghoul after his hair fell out. Thing is, he's a normal human being with a husky voice and male-pattern baldness. The REPCONN Ghouls tried to convince him he's human, but he was having none of it, so they gave up and kept him around for his technical skills, planning to abandon him at the rocket launch because he wouldn't survive the radiation at the launch site. You can tell him the truth and either help him sabotage the rocket or talk him into trying life as a human again. Either way, his reaction is understandably distressed.

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** Chris Haversam, the man who walked out of the vault mentioned above, is a case himself. He was assigned to work on the vault's reactor, and became convinced he'd become a ghoul after his hair fell out. Thing is, he's a normal human being with a husky voice and male-pattern baldness. The REPCONN Ghouls tried to convince him he's human, but he was having none of it, so they gave up and kept him around for his technical skills, planning to abandon him at the rocket launch because he wouldn't humans can't survive the radiation at the launch site. You can tell him the truth and either help him sabotage the rocket or talk him into trying life as a human again. Either way, his reaction is understandably distressed.


* There's another Vault, Number 34, where the people inside were apparently given similar orders to the one in VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, namely, not to leave the vault, ''ever'', even if it means you'll die horrible, horrible deaths if you don't. This becomes a serious problem due to food shortages causing a need for "population control", leading to a full blown revolution (thanks to the fully stocked armory inside the Vault, it's an extremely violent one, too, complete with bombings and everything) that ends up causing a reactor leak, killing some residents and turning many others into feral ghouls. The thing is, you encounter someone (middle aged) who left the vault a few years ago for personal reasons, and while in the vault, you get a message from someone trapped inside over the computer who needs to have access transferred to him in order to save his family. This means that these events happened weeks, or even just days, before the events of the game began. The irony is, just outside of the Vault were plenty of Golden Geckos, just primed and waiting to be shot and killed for dinner, which would be simplicity itself, given how heavily armed they all were (and they had plenty of Rad-X and Rad Away in stock to deal with the radiation). If they had been allowed to leave, they'd have found plenty of people to trade with for food. Heck, the ultimate irony is that their vault is practically directly underneath a sharecropper farm! There was plentiful food all around them except inside the vault that they could never leave.
** Chris Haversam, the man who walked out of the vault mentioned above, is a case himself. He was assigned to work on the vault's reactor, and became convinced he'd become a ghoul after his hair fell out. Thing is, he's a normal human being with a husky voice and male-pattern baldness, and the REPCONN Ghouls keep him around for his technical skills without ever telling him. You can tell him the truth and either help him sabotage the rocket or talk him into trying life as a human again. Either way, his reaction is understandably distressed.

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* There's another Vault, Number 34, where the people inside were apparently given similar orders to the one in VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', namely, not to leave the vault, ''ever'', even if it means you'll die horrible, horrible deaths if you don't. This becomes a serious problem due to food shortages causing a need for "population control", leading to a full blown revolution (thanks to the fully stocked armory inside the Vault, it's an extremely violent one, too, complete with bombings and everything) that ends up causing a reactor leak, killing some residents and turning many others into feral ghouls. The thing is, you encounter someone (middle aged) who left the vault a few years ago for personal reasons, and while in the vault, you get a message from someone trapped inside over the computer who needs to have access transferred to him in order to save his family. This means that these events happened weeks, or even just days, before the events of the game began. The irony is, just outside of the Vault were plenty of Golden Geckos, just primed and waiting to be shot and killed for dinner, which would be simplicity itself, given how heavily armed they all were (and they had plenty of Rad-X and Rad Away in stock to deal with the radiation). If they had been allowed to leave, they'd have found plenty of people to trade with for food. Heck, the ultimate irony is that their vault is practically directly underneath a sharecropper farm! There was plentiful food all around them except inside the vault that they could never leave.
** Chris Haversam, the man who walked out of the vault mentioned above, is a case himself. He was assigned to work on the vault's reactor, and became convinced he'd become a ghoul after his hair fell out. Thing is, he's a normal human being with a husky voice and male-pattern baldness, and the baldness. The REPCONN Ghouls keep tried to convince him he's human, but he was having none of it, so they gave up and kept him around for his technical skills without ever telling him.skills, planning to abandon him at the rocket launch because he wouldn't survive the radiation at the launch site. You can tell him the truth and either help him sabotage the rocket or talk him into trying life as a human again. Either way, his reaction is understandably distressed.



*** Except that they ''did'' tell him when he first showed up, but he was having none of it. Eventually they decided it wasn't worth the hassle to keep arguing with him.



** And what's worse? ''You'' likely killed Whitley in ''Videogame/Fallout3'' at the end of the Broken Steel DLC by either shooting him in person, or blowing up the base with the Killsat.

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** And what's worse? ''You'' likely killed Whitley in ''Videogame/Fallout3'' ''VideoGame/Fallout3'' at the end of the Broken Steel ''Broken Steel'' DLC by either shooting him in person, or blowing up the base with the Killsat.


-->'''[=MacNamara=]:''' [sadly] I know.

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-->'''[=MacNamara=]:''' [sadly] [[WhamLine I know.]]


** The Courier's line hits very close home to anyone who has hurt someone who they were close with.

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** The Courier's line hits very close home to anyone who has hurt someone who whom they were close with.

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** The Courier's line hits very close home to anyone who has hurt someone who they were close with.

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** You might think to yourself "Maybe when it's over, I could bring what remains back to the Mojave so his sacrifice wouldn't be forgotten." That never happens because after he overrides it, he fucking ''explodes'' and you can't pick up the pieces.


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* Vault 11. If you didn't hate Vault-Tec and [[spoiler:The Enclave]] already, you [[MoralEventHorizon will now.]]

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* Vault 11. If you didn't hate Vault-Tec and [[spoiler:The Enclave]] The Enclave already, you [[MoralEventHorizon will now.]]



** To sum it up, [[spoiler:the vault was set up so that the automated system within the vault would order the death of a member of the vault after one year, and the [[KillEmAll entire vault population would be exterminated]] if the people refused to send one of their own to their deaths in a chamber below the Overseer's office. After the first Overseer was "democratically elected" as the first sacrifice (read: as the bearer of bad news, the other inhabitants ''forced'' him to go out of spite), the Overseer was elected every year by the vault's citizens, and that overseer would be the sacrifice. For ''decades'', [[HumansAreBastards the people of Vault 11 callously voted for which member of their vault to kill, and some people found ways of manipulating the voting process to ensure that they would never be voted]]. This changed when a woman whose husband had made enemies with a corrupt voting party was forced to [[SexualExtortion have sex with all of the party's members]] or else her husband would be on the next ballot. Then, they betrayed the agreement and placed him on the ballot anyway. She decided that enough was enough and began [[SerialKiller murdering members of the offending party]], killing as many as she could knowing she would be caught all the while. Now the hands-down favorite to be elected to Overseer, she promptly changed the process so that the sacrifice should be determined by a random number generator instead of the now corrupt voting system (she could do this, being the Overseer). Because everyone now had an equal chance of being selected for death, some people didn't take it too well and a massive battle broke out. The few survivors, [[EverybodysDeadDave five out of literally hundreds]], fled to the chamber below the Overseer's office, to inform the vault system that they just didn't care anymore and that no-one would be sacrificed anymore. Here's the kicker: the vault was [[ILied lying]] about killing everyone in the vault if they refused to take part in the voting process. If the people of Vault 11 defiantly stood up and refused to sacrifice one of their own to save their own hides, they would have actually been ''rewarded'' for their "commitment to human life". [[SecretTestOfCharacter The whole thing was a test to see where the average person stood]] on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism. And they failed. '''Hard'''. [[FridgeHorror This means that the hundreds of people sacrificed "for the good of the vault" actually]] [[SenselessSacrifice all died for nothing.]] The five remaining survivors became suicidal upon the realization of [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone what they'd done]] and with the exception of one (who escaped into the wasteland), [[ShootTheShaggyDog they all killed themselves]].]]
** Though by counting [[spoiler:the number of skeletons in the killing chamber, the vault test only went on for 17 years before the revolt, which arguably makes things ''worse''. 17 people went to their deaths to save the hundreds in the Vault only for their sacrifice to not only be absolutely pointless but for those hundreds to kill each other until there were only five left]].
** Another thing of note is the fact that [[spoiler: no matter how hard you look, you can't find the survivor. His code exists in the game, but it seems that he was DummiedOut at some point, meaning that either he left the Mojave to get as far away from Vault 11 as he could or that he was unprepared for the Wasteland and ''died out there.'']]

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** To sum it up, [[spoiler:the the vault was set up so that the automated system within the vault would order the death of a member of the vault after one year, and the [[KillEmAll entire vault population would be exterminated]] if the people refused to send one of their own to their deaths in a chamber below the Overseer's office. After the first Overseer was "democratically elected" as the first sacrifice (read: as the bearer of bad news, the other inhabitants ''forced'' him to go out of spite), the Overseer was elected every year by the vault's citizens, and that overseer would be the sacrifice. For ''decades'', [[HumansAreBastards the people of Vault 11 callously voted for which member of their vault to kill, and some people found ways of manipulating the voting process to ensure that they would never be voted]]. This changed when a woman whose husband had made enemies with a corrupt voting party was forced to [[SexualExtortion have sex with all of the party's members]] or else her husband would be on the next ballot. Then, they betrayed the agreement and placed him on the ballot anyway. She decided that enough was enough and began [[SerialKiller murdering members of the offending party]], killing as many as she could knowing she would be caught all the while. Now the hands-down favorite to be elected to Overseer, she promptly changed the process so that the sacrifice should be determined by a random number generator instead of the now corrupt voting system (she could do this, being the Overseer). Because everyone now had an equal chance of being selected for death, some people didn't take it too well and a massive battle broke out. The few survivors, [[EverybodysDeadDave five out of literally hundreds]], fled to the chamber below the Overseer's office, to inform the vault system that they just didn't care anymore and that no-one would be sacrificed anymore. Here's the kicker: the vault was [[ILied lying]] about killing everyone in the vault if they refused to take part in the voting process. If the people of Vault 11 defiantly stood up and refused to sacrifice one of their own to save their own hides, they would have actually been ''rewarded'' for their "commitment to human life". [[SecretTestOfCharacter The whole thing was a test to see where the average person stood]] on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism. And they failed. '''Hard'''. [[FridgeHorror This means that the hundreds of people sacrificed "for the good of the vault" actually]] [[SenselessSacrifice all died for nothing.]] The five remaining survivors became suicidal upon the realization of [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone what they'd done]] and with the exception of one (who escaped into the wasteland), [[ShootTheShaggyDog they all killed themselves]].]]
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** Though by counting [[spoiler:the the number of skeletons in the killing chamber, the vault test only went on for 17 years before the revolt, which arguably makes things ''worse''. 17 people went to their deaths to save the hundreds in the Vault only for their sacrifice to not only be absolutely pointless but for those hundreds to kill each other until there were only five left]].
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** Another thing of note is the fact that [[spoiler: no matter how hard you look, you can't find the survivor. His code exists in the game, but it seems that he was DummiedOut at some point, meaning that either he left the Mojave to get as far away from Vault 11 as he could or that he was unprepared for the Wasteland and ''died out there.'']]''



* In the quest ''Return to Sender'', if you decide to turn in [[spoiler:Chief Hanlon for trying to sabotage NCR's defenses at Hoover Dam]] he gives a speech over the radio confessing that he had done something wrong and [[DrivenToSuicide shoots himself]].
-->Rangers, this is [[spoiler:the Chief]]. I know I can ramble on sometimes, but I need you to listen close for the next minute or so. I got some bad news. I messed up, made a mistake. I thought I could help us get out of here, but it didn't work out. Rangers get injured all the time, it's part of the job. But if you lose a few fingers, get a bad break, that's it. You step down. We rely on each other too much to let our infirmities become a liability. A ranger knows when it's time. Only I didn't. Somewhere along the way, something broke inside me. I couldn't find us a way out of this desert. I wrestled with it, and it took me down a dark road. I wish I could explain it to you. [[spoiler:The old chief's]] finally at a loss for words. Send me all the Legion you can; I'll be waiting for them.

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* In the quest ''Return to Sender'', if you decide to turn in [[spoiler:Chief Chief Hanlon for trying to sabotage NCR's defenses at Hoover Dam]] Dam he gives a speech over the radio confessing that he had done something wrong and [[DrivenToSuicide shoots himself]].
-->Rangers, this is [[spoiler:the Chief]].the Chief. I know I can ramble on sometimes, but I need you to listen close for the next minute or so. I got some bad news. I messed up, made a mistake. I thought I could help us get out of here, but it didn't work out. Rangers get injured all the time, it's part of the job. But if you lose a few fingers, get a bad break, that's it. You step down. We rely on each other too much to let our infirmities become a liability. A ranger knows when it's time. Only I didn't. Somewhere along the way, something broke inside me. I couldn't find us a way out of this desert. I wrestled with it, and it took me down a dark road. I wish I could explain it to you. [[spoiler:The The old chief's]] chief's finally at a loss for words. Send me all the Legion you can; I'll be waiting for them.



-->''Boone's letter to his wife'': "Carla, If youíre reading this, then you know. Sorry. Wanted to make it back home to you. The pension wonít be much but it should help you and the baby get by. Want you to remarry when you meet the right person. Donít want you to have to be on your own. Not sure the right way to say how I feel about you. Think you know already, though. Always seemed like you knew what I meant, maybe better than I did. Wish I was there with you now. There are things I couldnít tell you. Tried. Whatever you learn over time about my service in the NCR, hope you can forgive me. Lastly, know you were against it, but if itís a girl, want her to be named after her mother. Know itís playing dirty to win the argument this way, but too bad. Itís worth it. Craig"
** There's also a NCR soldier who tells his little brother to avenge him or he'll haunt him for life. [[spoiler: You'll find this letter on a corpse of a dead NCR trooper who's entire unit got wiped out]].

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-->''Boone's letter to his wife'': wife:'' "Carla, If youíre reading this, then you know. Sorry. Wanted to make it back home to you. The pension wonít be much but it should help you and the baby get by. Want you to remarry when you meet the right person. Donít want you to have to be on your own. Not sure the right way to say how I feel about you. Think you know already, though. Always seemed like you knew what I meant, maybe better than I did. Wish I was there with you now. There are things I couldnít tell you. Tried. Whatever you learn over time about my service in the NCR, hope you can forgive me. Lastly, know you were against it, but if itís a girl, want her to be named after her mother. Know itís playing dirty to win the argument this way, but too bad. Itís worth it. Craig"
** There's also a NCR soldier who tells his little brother to avenge him or he'll haunt him for life. [[spoiler: You'll find this letter on a corpse of a dead NCR trooper who's entire unit got wiped out]].out.



--> '''Ten-Of-Spades''': She trusts her life to the newbie, and [[ItsAllMyFault I let her get raped]] by that... [[VerbalTic p-p-piece]] of shit...

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--> '''Ten-Of-Spades''': '''Ten-Of-Spades:''' She trusts her life to the newbie, and [[ItsAllMyFault I let her get raped]] by that... [[VerbalTic p-p-piece]] of shit...



** She doesn't get any happy [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_endings#Lillian_Marie_Bowen endings]], either. [[spoiler:When either completely forgetting her grandchildren or going on a futile search for them are the best ones, you have yourself a certified [[TheWoobie Woobie]].]]

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** She doesn't get any happy [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_endings#Lillian_Marie_Bowen endings]], either. [[spoiler:When When either completely forgetting her grandchildren or going on a futile search for them are the best ones, you have yourself a certified [[TheWoobie Woobie]].]]



* Oh, the [[spoiler: Enclave Remnants]]. Not only do they make players feel like monsters for destroying the Western Enclave, but for leaving their citizens and soldiers to a FateWorseThanDeath. Arcade, who was little more than a child when Navarro Air Force Base was overrun by NCR, [[spoiler: is imprisoned and tried as a war criminal by the NCR in at least one ending, and simply because ''he was an Enclave citizen.'']] And of the Remnants, while all their stories are heartbreaking, [[spoiler: Orion Moreno]] stands out. He was loyal to a fault and believed with all his heart that the Enclave knew what was best for them. His DespairEventHorizon was flying away from Navarro as the NCR overran it, and he said to [[spoiler: a young Arcade]], "Kiss America goodbye, boys." The NCR took away the one thing that he loved more than anything else, and when the player meets him, [[BullyingADragon they're harassing him for squatting.]] The local NCR are lucky the Courier arrived when he/she did.

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* Oh, the [[spoiler: Enclave Remnants]].Remnants. Not only do they make players feel like monsters for destroying the Western Enclave, but for leaving their citizens and soldiers to a FateWorseThanDeath. Arcade, who was little more than a child when Navarro Air Force Base was overrun by NCR, [[spoiler: is imprisoned and tried as a war criminal by the NCR in at least one ending, and simply because ''he was an Enclave citizen.'']] '' And of the Remnants, while all their stories are heartbreaking, [[spoiler: Orion Moreno]] Moreno stands out. He was loyal to a fault and believed with all his heart that the Enclave knew what was best for them. His DespairEventHorizon was flying away from Navarro as the NCR overran it, and he said to [[spoiler: a young Arcade]], Arcade, "Kiss America goodbye, boys." The NCR took away the one thing that he loved more than anything else, and when the player meets him, [[BullyingADragon they're harassing him for squatting.]] The local NCR are lucky the Courier arrived when he/she did.



* The quest for the Lucky Star Sarsaparilla caps. You're told that there's a great treasure if you can complete it. Some people (possibly including yourself) have ''killed'' others purely on suspicion that they ''might'' have some of these caps. In particular, you are warned about a man named Allen Marks who is known for doing this. And in the end, it turns out [[spoiler:it was a promotional stunt, and the reward is a stupid story about how they came up with the recipe, or a fancy toy badge if you badger Festus about it. Somewhat mitigated that you find several hundred then-worthless bottlecaps in the same room, as well as a unique laser pistol... on Allen Marks' body, as he managed to scrounge up fifty star caps, found his way to the plant, made it to the "treasure", and somehow locked himself in the room, which was airtight, so he eventually ran out of air and died. He even leaves behind a recording where he essentially [[HeelRealization admits that this is what he deserves for killing so many people.]]]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Allen Marks' Last Words:''' I guess this is it. Not much air left now. Minutes, maybe. And this is what I have to show for it. I guess the joke's ''[gasps air]'' on me. Prolly shouldn't ''[gasp for air]'' have killed... all those people, Prolly shoulda stayed home... ''[gasp for air]'' and [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas taken care of my ma.]] She... always used to say people who... murder and steal... [[KarmicDeath die bad in the end.]] Said they... ''[[[KilledMidSentence gasp for air]]]'']]

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* The quest for the Lucky Star Sarsaparilla caps. You're told that there's a great treasure if you can complete it. Some people (possibly including yourself) have ''killed'' others purely on suspicion that they ''might'' have some of these caps. In particular, you are warned about a man named Allen Marks who is known for doing this. And in the end, it turns out [[spoiler:it it was a promotional stunt, and the reward is a stupid story about how they came up with the recipe, or a fancy toy badge if you badger Festus about it. Somewhat mitigated that you find several hundred then-worthless bottlecaps in the same room, as well as a unique laser pistol... on Allen Marks' body, as he managed to scrounge up fifty star caps, found his way to the plant, made it to the "treasure", and somehow locked himself in the room, which was airtight, so he eventually ran out of air and died. He even leaves behind a recording where he essentially [[HeelRealization admits that this is what he deserves for killing so many people.]]]]
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-->'''Allen
Marks' Last Words:''' I guess this is it. Not much air left now. Minutes, maybe. And this is what I have to show for it. I guess the joke's ''[gasps air]'' on me. Prolly shouldn't ''[gasp for air]'' have killed... all those people, Prolly shoulda stayed home... ''[gasp for air]'' and [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas taken care of my ma.]] She... always used to say people who... murder and steal... [[KarmicDeath die bad in the end.]] Said they... ''[[[KilledMidSentence gasp for air]]]'']]air]]]''



* Christine's ending in particular. [[spoiler: If you don't convince her to let go of her desire for revenge against Father Elijah, she dies in the hotel. If you do, she stays behind, watching over the casino and the villa for the rest of her life.]]
** Christine's story in entirety is fairly sad. [[spoiler: It starts off with her being the (very heavily hinted at) lover of Veronica before they were driven apart. Then she hears that her only love died in a huge tactical blunder, driving her mad with revenge. The only way to get this vengeance is to sign up with the Circle of Steel, enforcing the very ideals that drove her away from her love. She pursues Elijah only to be captured and lobotomized by the Think Tank, after which she is left unable to read or write. Fortunately, she gets rescued. Of course, the only thing she can do is continue to pursue Elijah. She ends up at the Sierra Madre. Then, she's trapped in a tube, just barely big enough for her, that is constantly doing surgery on her, eventually tearing out her vocal cords. When she is rescued, it's only to work with the very person who locked her in there, and for the very person she was pursuing. She has either the good fortune or the misfortune of meeting the Courier, who either saves her, or lies to her, promising one thing, while really taking her to her worst nightmare. Eventually, she either dies killing Elijah, or becomes the warden of what amounts to hell on Earth. All because she wanted to be with the woman she loved, and couldn't let that go.]]

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* Christine's ending in particular. [[spoiler: If you don't convince her to let go of her desire for revenge against Father Elijah, she dies in the hotel. If you do, she stays behind, watching over the casino and the villa for the rest of her life.]]
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** Christine's story in entirety is fairly sad. [[spoiler: It starts off with her being the (very heavily hinted at) lover of Veronica before they were driven apart. Then she hears that her only love died in a huge tactical blunder, driving her mad with revenge. The only way to get this vengeance is to sign up with the Circle of Steel, enforcing the very ideals that drove her away from her love. She pursues Elijah only to be captured and lobotomized by the Think Tank, after which she is left unable to read or write. Fortunately, she gets rescued. Of course, the only thing she can do is continue to pursue Elijah. She ends up at the Sierra Madre. Then, she's trapped in a tube, just barely big enough for her, that is constantly doing surgery on her, eventually tearing out her vocal cords. When she is rescued, it's only to work with the very person who locked her in there, and for the very person she was pursuing. She has either the good fortune or the misfortune of meeting the Courier, who either saves her, or lies to her, promising one thing, while really taking her to her worst nightmare. Eventually, she either dies killing Elijah, or becomes the warden of what amounts to hell on Earth. All because she wanted to be with the woman she loved, and couldn't let that go.]]



* A possible ending to [[SplitPersonality Dog/God]]'s final quest "Put the Beast Down", upon finding them [[spoiler: Dog has had enough of constantly switching between himself and God, and is about to detonate his collar, killing himself and destroying the Sierra Madre via a gas leak.]] To resolve this, you can[[spoiler: 1: Fix the gas leaks and kill Dog, 2: Make Dog the main personality, 3: Pick God instead, or 4: [[SplitPersonalityMerge Meld the two personalities into one]]. Choosing to meld them causes both personalities to end their conflict and warn you that they won't be able to remember you, and therefore not help you. Continuing the process creates a single personality, knowing nothing about where he is, but vaguely remembering that you've helped him.]]

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* A possible ending to [[SplitPersonality Dog/God]]'s final quest "Put the Beast Down", upon finding them [[spoiler: Dog has had enough of constantly switching between himself and God, and is about to detonate his collar, killing himself and destroying the Sierra Madre via a gas leak.]] leak. To resolve this, you can[[spoiler: can 1: Fix the gas leaks and kill Dog, 2: Make Dog the main personality, 3: Pick God instead, or 4: [[SplitPersonalityMerge Meld the two personalities into one]]. Choosing to meld them causes both personalities to end their conflict and warn you that they won't be able to remember you, and therefore not help you. Continuing the process creates a single personality, knowing nothing about where he is, but vaguely remembering that you've helped him.]]



* Dean Domino himself, despite being a greedy Jerkass, has a rather somber ending [[spoiler:if he dies. Which he probably will if you haven't spent the entire time kissing his ass.]]

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* Dean Domino himself, despite being a greedy Jerkass, has a rather somber ending [[spoiler:if if he dies. Which he probably will if you haven't spent the entire time kissing his ass.]]



** Everything that happened to Frederick Sinclair. He even dies [[spoiler:trying to destroy the trap he had set up to kill Vera and Dean because Vera told him about the heist. You can find his pitiful remains on a steam pipe just outside the gold Vault, having died alongside everyone else when the hotel sealed up during the War]].

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** Everything that happened to Frederick Sinclair. He even dies [[spoiler:trying trying to destroy the trap he had set up to kill Vera and Dean because Vera told him about the heist. You can find his pitiful remains on a steam pipe just outside the gold Vault, having died alongside everyone else when the hotel sealed up during the War]].War.



** The fact that thanks to the insidious one-sided deals with [[spoiler:the Think Tank]] and compromised engineering, the Sierra Madre would collapse eventually. Meaning that the physical traces of the tragic tale of Vera Keyes and Frederick Sinclair will soon be lost forever.

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** The fact that thanks to the insidious one-sided deals with [[spoiler:the the Think Tank]] Tank and compromised engineering, the Sierra Madre would collapse eventually. Meaning that the physical traces of the tragic tale of Vera Keyes and Frederick Sinclair will soon be lost forever.



* [[spoiler:[[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Randall_Dean_Clark Randall Dean Clark]]]]'s backstory from Honest Hearts, whom the Sorrows remember fondly as "The Father", is especially sad. And more than once in the entries left behind, he's tempted to point a gun at himself and end his suffering but never going through with it.

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* [[spoiler:[[http://fallout.[[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Randall_Dean_Clark Randall Dean Clark]]]]'s Clark]]'s backstory from Honest Hearts, whom the Sorrows remember fondly as "The Father", is especially sad. And more than once in the entries left behind, he's tempted to point a gun at himself and end his suffering but never going through with it.



*** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: Ulysses told them to do it. He told them that to destroy New Canaan, they had to kill everyone. His tapes you find in a later DLC mentions that New Canaan made him think about his ways. He had helped destroy an ancient culture and beliefs pre-dating the pre-war world who only helped the weak. Even after all he did, he was wondered if there really was a place where this "God" exists with a twinge of regret in his usually CreepyMonotone]]. Joshua lampshades this earlier on, commenting that waging war on good people can change you. He cautions you to note this fact, because "it's the most important thing I will ever say to you."

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*** To make matters worse, [[spoiler: Ulysses told them to do it. He told them that to destroy New Canaan, they had to kill everyone. His tapes you find in a later DLC mentions that New Canaan made him think about his ways. He had helped destroy an ancient culture and beliefs pre-dating the pre-war world who only helped the weak. Even after all he did, he was wondered if there really was a place where this "God" exists with a twinge of regret in his usually CreepyMonotone]].CreepyMonotone. Joshua lampshades this earlier on, commenting that waging war on good people can change you. He cautions you to note this fact, because "it's the most important thing I will ever say to you."



* Old World Blues in general. Your first encounter is with a bunch of goofy {{Mad Scientist}}s. And they send you out into Big Mountain/Big Empty. It really hits hard when you visit [[spoiler:Higgs Village.]] You see that the houses are nice and clean on the outside. Inside, they're a mess. They completed the brain-upload procedure. They go into their former homes. Dr. Dala attempts to hug a teddy bear. Borous tries petting an animal. 8 tries enjoying music. Klein is picking up a bottle of alcohol. And none of them are capable of interacting with the things that made them happy.
* You can get Dr. Borous to talk about [[spoiler:his dog Gabe and the memories they had together]]. And then realization starts to take hold, and the largest of the Think Tank's {{Large Ham}}s trails off and suddenly turns quiet.

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* Old World Blues in general. Your first encounter is with a bunch of goofy {{Mad Scientist}}s. And they send you out into Big Mountain/Big Empty. It really hits hard when you visit [[spoiler:Higgs Village.]] Higgs Village. You see that the houses are nice and clean on the outside. Inside, they're a mess. They completed the brain-upload procedure. They go into their former homes. Dr. Dala attempts to hug a teddy bear. Borous tries petting an animal. 8 tries enjoying music. Klein is picking up a bottle of alcohol. And none of them are capable of interacting with the things that made them happy.
* You can get Dr. Borous to talk about [[spoiler:his his dog Gabe and the memories they had together]].together. And then realization starts to take hold, and the largest of the Think Tank's {{Large Ham}}s trails off and suddenly turns quiet.



* Hearing [[spoiler:Dr. Mobius' regret about what has happened to him, his colleagues, and how the Big MT failed in its purpose]].
** Poor [[spoiler: Doctor Mobius]]. When you finally catch up to him, you see that he practically destroyed himself in a bid to [[spoiler: keep the Think Tank contained in the Big MT]]. A once brilliant man, now senile and detached like Lily is. You just wanna hug the poor guy.
*** For some reason, there's just something especially sad about [[spoiler: Dr. Mobius]]. It's largely PlayedForLaughs, but anyone who's familiar with what senility can do with people can be hit a little hard by some lines.[[spoiler: It gets better in that, if you leave your brain there largely for the stats benefits, it goes on to become something of his apprentice in its good ending]].

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* Hearing [[spoiler:Dr. Dr. Mobius' regret about what has happened to him, his colleagues, and how the Big MT failed in its purpose]].
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** Poor [[spoiler: Doctor Mobius]]. Mobius. When you finally catch up to him, you see that he practically destroyed himself in a bid to [[spoiler: keep the Think Tank contained in the Big MT]].MT. A once brilliant man, now senile and detached like Lily is. You just wanna hug the poor guy.
*** For some reason, there's just something especially sad about [[spoiler: Dr. Mobius]].Mobius. It's largely PlayedForLaughs, but anyone who's familiar with what senility can do with people can be hit a little hard by some lines.[[spoiler: It gets better in that, if you leave your brain there largely for the stats benefits, it goes on to become something of his apprentice in its good ending]].ending.



** And what's worse? ''You'' likely killed Whitley in ''Videogame/Fallout3'' at the end of the [[spoiler: Broken Steel DLC by either shooting him in person, or blowing up the base with the Killsat.]]
*** To the Lone Wanderer, [[spoiler:Whitely was probably just another nameless Enclave scientist. It really makes you wonder WhatMeasureIsAMook [[FridgeHorror How many other characters have we mowed down that turned out to be fundamentally honest, decent people?]]]]
* At the end, ED-E can choose [[spoiler: to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice himself]] to stop the nuclear warheads from raining down on the NCR and Legion.]]
--> '''Courier''': [[spoiler: [[TrueCompanions NO! ED-E! You can't... you just can't do this if it means you're going to die!]]]]
--> '''ED-E''': [[Awesome/FalloutNewVegas <Determined series of beeps and then his theme>]]
--> '''Courier''': [[spoiler: [[TearJerker If... if... you're absolutely sure...]] ]]
--> '''ED-E''': <Beep.> <nods>
* Both Ulysses and the Courier (especially one with good karma) are revealed to be Woobies. [[spoiler: The Courier suddenly learns that s/he destroyed a decent, genuinely happy community. Several dialogue options show the Courier denying any fault or blame, but picking these options easily shows that s/he's not trying to convince anyone but him or herself. Meanwhile, Ulysses has [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom made many mistakes]], and you can see the regret he has for the massacre of New Canaan and for his lost tribe of the Twisted Hairs. He's a patriot without anything to be patriotic for, and the reason he's the man he is today is because the Courier destroyed the home he could've believed in.]]

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** And what's worse? ''You'' likely killed Whitley in ''Videogame/Fallout3'' at the end of the [[spoiler: Broken Steel DLC by either shooting him in person, or blowing up the base with the Killsat.]]
Killsat.
*** To the Lone Wanderer, [[spoiler:Whitely Whitley was probably just another nameless Enclave scientist. It really makes you wonder WhatMeasureIsAMook [[FridgeHorror How many other characters have we mowed down that turned out to be fundamentally honest, decent people?]]]]
people?]]
* At the end, ED-E can choose [[spoiler: to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice himself]] to stop the nuclear warheads from raining down on the NCR and Legion.]]
Legion.
--> '''Courier''': [[spoiler: '''Courier:''' [[TrueCompanions NO! ED-E! You can't... you just can't do this if it means you're going to die!]]]]
die!]]
--> '''ED-E''': '''ED-E:''' [[Awesome/FalloutNewVegas <Determined series of beeps and then his theme>]]
--> '''Courier''': [[spoiler: '''Courier:''' [[TearJerker If... if... you're absolutely sure...]] ]]
--> '''ED-E''': '''ED-E:''' <Beep.> <nods>
* Both Ulysses and the Courier (especially one with good karma) are revealed to be Woobies. [[spoiler: The Courier suddenly learns that s/he destroyed a decent, genuinely happy community. Several dialogue options show the Courier denying any fault or blame, but picking these options easily shows that s/he's not trying to convince anyone but him or herself. Meanwhile, Ulysses has [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom made many mistakes]], and you can see the regret he has for the massacre of New Canaan and for his lost tribe of the Twisted Hairs. He's a patriot without anything to be patriotic for, and the reason he's the man he is today is because the Courier destroyed the home he could've believed in.]]

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