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* In ''The Early Years'', Jock goes to visit his mentally-unstable wife, Amanda, after Ellie asks him to marry her. He tearfully tells Amanda that while he still loves her, he'll have to get a divorce because he has to marry someone else. Amanda is blissfully unaware of what is happening, and simply stares out at the sky as he tells her that he'll always support her no matter what.


---> '''John Ross''': I AM NOT MY FATHER!!! You're so hellbent on punishing J.R. for his sins that you're willing to destroy the relationship you have with your own son? Dammit, I need you, Mom, and you sided with them! I'm your son! Don't you remember that? [...] You're so busy seeing the ghost of J.R. in me that you cannot stop to take a hard look in the ''damn mirror''.

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---> '''Sue Ellen''': Once a cheater, always a cheater. I should have learned that lesson the first time around.
---> '''John Ross''': You donít know what youíre talking about, Mama. Yeah, yeah, Candace was in my office and the crazy bitch was all over me. And I turned her down!
---> '''Sue Ellen''': BULLSHIT! I know what I saw!
---> '''John Ross''': You donít know, because youíre drunk! I am telling you the truth!
---> '''Sue Ellen''': Even drunk, I know the sound of a lie, and you are an expert at it, just like your father.
---> '''John Ross''': I AM NOT MY FATHER!!! You're FATHER!!! Are you so hellbent hell-bent on punishing J.R. for his sins that you're youíre willing to destroy the relationship you have with your own only son? Dammit, Damn it, I need you, you Mom, and you sided with them! I'm them. Iím your son! Don't you son. You remember that? [...] You're Or are you too damn addled to remember who I am? [Reaches for the bottle, holds it up] Why are you doing this to yourself again, huh?
---> '''Sue Ellen''': [Sobbing] Donít you get it? You did this to me. You and your father.
---> '''John Ross''': No, Mama. You did this to yourself. Youíre
so busy seeing the ghost of J.R. in me that you cannot stop to take a hard look in the ''damn mirror''.damn mirror. You want me to take responsibility for my actions? Then you take responsibility for yours. [Walks away, leaves the house, slams the door behind him]


---> '''John Ross''': I AM NOT MY FATHER!!! You're so hellbent on punishing J.R. for his sins that you're willing to destroy the relationship you have with your only son? [...] You're so busy seeing the ghost of J.R. in me that you cannot stop to take a hard look in the ''damn mirror''.

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---> '''John Ross''': I AM NOT MY FATHER!!! You're so hellbent on punishing J.R. for his sins that you're willing to destroy the relationship you have with your only own son? Dammit, I need you, Mom, and you sided with them! I'm your son! Don't you remember that? [...] You're so busy seeing the ghost of J.R. in me that you cannot stop to take a hard look in the ''damn mirror''.


* Six words: "I shot your father, John Ross."

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* Six words: "I shot your father, John Ross.""
* This, for John Ross, after Sue Ellen wrongly suspects him of sleeping with his secretary Candice, and later lashes out at him [[spoiler:,while drunk, no less]].
---> '''John Ross''': I AM NOT MY FATHER!!! You're so hellbent on punishing J.R. for his sins that you're willing to destroy the relationship you have with your only son? [...] You're so busy seeing the ghost of J.R. in me that you cannot stop to take a hard look in the ''damn mirror''.


* Pambecca miscarrying her twins. Cliff's move of ordering the explosion on the rig, even after finding out she was on there, definitely means he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon

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* Pambecca miscarrying her twins. Cliff's move of ordering the explosion on the rig, even after finding out she was on there, definitely means he's crossed the MoralEventHorizonMoralEventHorizon
* Six words: "I shot your father, John Ross."


* Pambecca miscarrying her twins. Cliff's move [[hottip:note: He ordered the explosion on the rig, even after finding out she was on there]] definitely means he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon

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* Pambecca miscarrying her twins. Cliff's move [[hottip:note: He ordered of ordering the explosion on the rig, even after finding out she was on there]] there, definitely means he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon


* Bobby breaking down and crying after J.R.'s funeral.
** Just J.R. funeral in general.

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* Bobby breaking down and crying after J.[[spoiler:J.R.'s ]]'s funeral.
** Just J.[[spoiler:J.R. ]]'s funeral in general.


* Bobby breaking down and crying after J.R.'s funeral.

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* Bobby breaking down and crying after J.R.'s funeral.funeral.
** Just J.R. funeral in general.
* Pambecca miscarrying her twins. Cliff's move [[hottip:note: He ordered the explosion on the rig, even after finding out she was on there]] definitely means he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon


-->'''J.R.:''' Come on, wake up, you hear me? Wake up and you get better. And you keep fighting. You keep fighting me! Now I'm gonna tell you something you never heard me say before: I love you Bobby, and I don't know who I'd be without you.

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-->'''J.R.:''' Come on, wake up, you hear me? Wake up and you get better. And you keep fighting. You keep fighting me! Now I'm gonna tell you something you never heard me say before: I love you Bobby, and I don't know who I'd be without you.you.
* Bobby breaking down and crying after J.R.'s funeral.


** Also Pam blaming herself afterward.

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** Also Pam blaming herself afterward.afterward.
* In 2012's "Revelations", J.R. to an unconscious and critically ill Bobby:
-->'''J.R.:''' Come on, wake up, you hear me? Wake up and you get better. And you keep fighting. You keep fighting me! Now I'm gonna tell you something you never heard me say before: I love you Bobby, and I don't know who I'd be without you.


** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone]] with [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s coffin right after his funeral.

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** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only only letting go when he's alone]] with [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s coffin right after his funeral.


** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone with [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s coffin right after his funeral]].

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** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone alone]] with [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s coffin right after his funeral]].funeral.


* J.R. going through his emotional turmoil after confirming Jock Ewing's death.
* Bobby Ewing's death, even if it did [[TropeCodifier codify]] AllJustADream.

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* J.R. going through his emotional turmoil after confirming Jock Ewing's [[spoiler:Jock Ewing]]'s death.
* Bobby Ewing's [[spoiler:Bobby Ewing]]'s death, even if it did [[TropeCodifier codify]] AllJustADream.[[spoiler:AllJustADream]].



-->'''J.R.:''' Don't do this to me, Bobby. Don't leave me.
** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during Bobby's death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone with Bobby's coffin right after his funeral]].

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-->'''J.R.:''' Don't do this to me, Bobby.[[spoiler:Bobby]]. Don't leave me.
** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during Bobby's [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone with Bobby's [[spoiler:Bobby]]'s coffin right after his funeral]].


** While everyone else had the usual emotions, J.R.'s expressions were priceless, and solidly in the "this can't be happening" range. And him later taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was away (and accused by J.R. of sleeping with somebody) and didn't find out about Bobby's death until later.

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** While everyone else had the usual emotions, J.R.'s expressions were priceless, and solidly in the "this can't be happening" range. And him later taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was away (and accused by J.R. of sleeping with somebody) and didn't find out about Bobby's death until later.


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** And him that night taking it out on Sue Ellen, who was out and about during Bobby's death and didn't find out until right then. [[MenDontCry J.R. spends the entirety of the Season 8/9 premiere trying not to break down]], [[ManlyTears Only letting go when he's alone with Bobby's coffin right after his funeral]].

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