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Riddle me this: What happens when a [[Creator/TelltaleGames studio known for making serious and depressing games]] mixes with [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a comicbook hero known for having serious and depressing stories]]?.

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Riddle me this: What happens when a [[Creator/TelltaleGames studio known for making serious and depressing games]] mixes with [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a comicbook hero known for having serious and depressing stories]]?.
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** If you choose [[spoiler: not to forgive Alfred for hiding the truth to you]], the "Alfred won't forget that" line can come off as this; whereas forgiving him can be this with [[HeartwarmingMoments happy tears]].

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** If you choose [[spoiler: not to forgive Alfred for hiding the truth to you]], the "Alfred won't forget that" line can come off as this; whereas forgiving him can be this with [[HeartwarmingMoments [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments happy tears]].



* [[spoiler: After Joker's arrest, Alfred decides to leave Bruce permanently after realizing that [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Batman made things worse in both seasons of the game.]] It's heartbreaking that Bruce pleaded for him to stay but he made his mind up. Depending on the player's choice, you can give up Alfred and continue being Batman or [[HeartwarmingMoment you could give up being Batman, to make Alfred reconsider leaving Bruce.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: After Joker's arrest, Alfred decides to leave Bruce permanently after realizing that [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Batman made things worse in both seasons of the game.]] It's heartbreaking that Bruce pleaded for him to stay but he made his mind up. Depending on the player's choice, you can give up Alfred and continue being Batman or [[HeartwarmingMoment [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments you could give up being Batman, to make Alfred reconsider leaving Bruce.]]]]


** Hell, the entire fight is one big tearjerker: [[spoiler: The Joker throughout the episode was so enthusiastic about being a hero and partner to Batman, and then he breaks down once his darker urges get the best of him and violently murders the agents trying to arrest him in a bloodbath. He spends the entire fight cry-laughing and you can see the heartbreak on his face whenever Batman punches him. The kicker is at the climax when Batman has him cornered and Joker laments that his desire to be admired by Batman failed and caused Joker to lose himself, and once both fighters are down from exhaustion? The Joker sadly accepts that he can't be a hero and admits he knew Batman used him the entire time, but can't bring himself to hate him because he had so much fun spending time with Batman and asks Bruce if he ever thought of John as a true friend. No matter your answer, it's still sad; if you say yes, Joker, in a fit of self-loathing, declares Batman must be as crazy as him to consider someone as twisted as he is to be a friend, and if you say no, Joker accepts this and declares that from now on, they are enemies.]]

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** Hell, the entire fight is one big tearjerker: [[spoiler: The Joker throughout the episode was so enthusiastic about being a hero and partner to Batman, and then he breaks down once his darker urges get the best of him and violently murders the agents trying to arrest him in a bloodbath. He spends the entire fight cry-laughing CryLaughing and you can see the heartbreak on his face whenever Batman punches him. The kicker is at the climax when Batman has him cornered and Joker laments that his desire to be admired by Batman failed and caused Joker to lose himself, and once both fighters are down from exhaustion? The Joker sadly accepts that he can't be a hero and admits he knew Batman used him the entire time, but can't bring himself to hate him because he had so much fun spending time with Batman and asks Bruce if he ever thought of John as a true friend. No matter your answer, it's still sad; if you say yes, Joker, in a fit of self-loathing, declares Batman must be as crazy as him to consider someone as twisted as he is to be a friend, and if you say no, Joker accepts this and declares that from now on, they are enemies.]]


* John Doe isn't taking his newfound freedom well. Now that he's out of Arkham, [[StrangerInAFamiliarLand he has no idea what to do]], even going so far as to say that he "misses those padded walls". Even though he's an insane criminal, you can't help but feel bad for him.

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* John Doe isn't taking his newfound freedom well. Now that he's out of Arkham, [[StrangerInAFamiliarLand he has no idea what to do]], even going so far as to say that do]] - he "misses those padded walls". Even though he's may be an insane criminal, but you can't help but feel bad for him.him.
-->'''John''': It's- it's the ''freedom'' that gets to you. There's so damn much, [[ParalysisByAnalysis you hardly know what to do with it]]. It's not like Arkham. Sometimes I miss those padded walls. You knew where the lines were drawn. Which ones not to cross.


** Hell, the entire fight is one big tearjerker: [[spoiler: The Joker throughout the episode was so enthusiastic about being a hero and partner to Batman, and then he breaks down once his darker urges get the best of him and violently murders the agents trying to arrest him in a bloodbath. He spends the entire fight cry-laughing and you can see the heartbreak on his face whenever Batman punches him. The kicker is at the climax when Batman has him cornered and Joker laments that his desire to be admired by Batman failed and caused Joker to lose himself, and once both fighters are down from exhaustion? The Joker sadly accepts that he can't be a hero and admits he knew Batman used him the entire time, but can't bring himself to hate him because he had so much fun spending time with Batman and asks Bruce if he ever thought of John as a true friend. No matter your answer, it's still sad; if you say yes, Joker, in a fit of self-loathing, declares Batman must be as crazy as him to think of someone as twisted as the Joker as a friend, and if you say no, Joker accepts this and declares that from now on, they are enemies.]]

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** Hell, the entire fight is one big tearjerker: [[spoiler: The Joker throughout the episode was so enthusiastic about being a hero and partner to Batman, and then he breaks down once his darker urges get the best of him and violently murders the agents trying to arrest him in a bloodbath. He spends the entire fight cry-laughing and you can see the heartbreak on his face whenever Batman punches him. The kicker is at the climax when Batman has him cornered and Joker laments that his desire to be admired by Batman failed and caused Joker to lose himself, and once both fighters are down from exhaustion? The Joker sadly accepts that he can't be a hero and admits he knew Batman used him the entire time, but can't bring himself to hate him because he had so much fun spending time with Batman and asks Bruce if he ever thought of John as a true friend. No matter your answer, it's still sad; if you say yes, Joker, in a fit of self-loathing, declares Batman must be as crazy as him to think of consider someone as twisted as the Joker as he is to be a friend, and if you say no, Joker accepts this and declares that from now on, they are enemies.]]


** He sounds so defeated (and a [[DrowningMySorrows bit drunk]]) when you encounter him in Harley's office.

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** He sounds so defeated (and a [[DrowningMySorrows bit drunk]]) when you encounter him in Harley's office.office, sporting a shiner [[DomesticAbuse that she'd given him for his betrayal]].


** If Bruce calls John "crazy" when he brings the favor up, John -- struggling to keep his composure -- replies that 'crazy' can be a derogatory word, and has been used to stigmatize people. It plays a lot like someone trying to testily correct a friend after they've said something extremely offensive and hurtful.

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** If Bruce calls John "crazy" when he brings the favor up, John -- struggling to keep his composure -- replies that 'crazy' can be a derogatory word, and has been used to stigmatize people. It plays a lot like someone trying to testily correct a friend after they've said something extremely offensive and hurtful. Also somewhat heartwarming, as "being disrespected" is John's ''biggest'' BerserkButton, so he cares about Bruce enough to restrain himself.


*** Even worse if Bruce [[spoiler: agrees with Walker in thinking that he'll betray them]] putting John on the path to Villainy instead.

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*** Even worse if Bruce [[spoiler: agrees with Walker in thinking that he'll betray them]] them]], [[HeelFaceDoorSlam putting John on the path to Villainy instead.instead]].


---->'''John''': Look what you've done! (''Voice cracking'') [[FalseFriend You were supposed to be my friend]]!

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---->'''John''': [[WhatTheHellHero Look what you've done! done]]! (''Voice cracking'') [[FalseFriend You were supposed to be my friend]]!


* [[spoiler: After Joker's arrest, Alfred decides to leave Bruce permanently after realizing that [[EveryoneHasStandards Batman made things worse in both seasons of the game.]] It's heartbreaking that Bruce pleaded for him to stay but he made his mind up. Depending on the player's choice, you can give up Alfred and continue being Batman or [[HeartwarmingMoment you could give up being Batman, to make Alfred reconsider leaving Bruce.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: After Joker's arrest, Alfred decides to leave Bruce permanently after realizing that [[EveryoneHasStandards [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Batman made things worse in both seasons of the game.]] It's heartbreaking that Bruce pleaded for him to stay but he made his mind up. Depending on the player's choice, you can give up Alfred and continue being Batman or [[HeartwarmingMoment you could give up being Batman, to make Alfred reconsider leaving Bruce.]]]]


* Depending on your choices [[spoiler: if Tiffany knows Bruce is Batman, she begins work on updating some of Batman's tech. Her first design is for an ''assault rifle''. One of Bruce's reactions is to all but recoil in horror stating he ''hates'' guns after what happened to his parents. Tiffany quickly apologizes and asks Bruce if he's ever thought about using one in his work as Batman. Bruce can respond that if he ever started down that path, he'd never come back.]]

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* Depending on your choices [[spoiler: if Tiffany knows Bruce is Batman, she begins work on updating some of Batman's tech. Her first design is for an ''assault rifle''. One of Bruce's reactions is to all but recoil in horror stating he ''hates'' guns after what happened to his parents. Tiffany quickly apologizes and asks Bruce if he's ever thought about using one in his work as Batman. Bruce can respond that if he ever started down that path, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope he'd never come back.back]].]]


*** Even worse if Bruce [[spoiler: agrees with Walker in thinking that he'll betray them]].

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*** Even worse if Bruce [[spoiler: agrees with Walker in thinking that he'll betray them]].them]] putting John on the path to Villainy instead.


** Likewise, the Vigilante Ending for the episode has [[spoiler: John betray Harley while sadly commenting that "Bruce showed me how to be good, Harley. In a way you never could." That Waller ''immediately'' fucks things up makes it that much worse.]]

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** Likewise, the Vigilante Ending for the episode has [[spoiler: John betray Harley while sadly commenting that "Bruce showed me how to be good, Harley. In a way you never could." [[HopeSpot That Waller ''immediately'' immediately fucks things up up]] makes it [[AllForNothing that much worse.]]worse]].]]
*** Even worse if Bruce [[spoiler: agrees with Walker in thinking that he'll betray them]].
---->'''John''': Look what you've done! (''Voice cracking'') [[FalseFriend You were supposed to be my friend]]!

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** Likewise, the Vigilante Ending for the episode has [[spoiler: John betray Harley while sadly commenting that "Bruce showed me how to be good, Harley. In a way you never could." That Waller ''immediately'' fucks things up makes it that much worse.]]

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