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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: The Winchester brothers are the Mature Hero to the archangels' Childish Villains in the Apocalypse arc. Sam and Dean, for all their faults and dysfunction, have moved past their original daddy issues with Jaune during the first two seasons, and though a serious rift forms between them at the end of Season 4, they don't let it come between them permanently. Furthermore, despite how much the brothers love each-other to the core, they're willing to put safeguarding the fate of the world first when stopping the archangels. The archangels on the other hand are ultimately cosmic, pretentious, overpowered {{manchild}}ren whom are endangering the entire Earth because of their own family drama which involves their absent father, and none of them except Gabriel ever move past this and their broken family is never repaired -- Michael and Lucifer in particular are foils of what Dean and Sam respectively were like when John was still alive in the first season, and of what the brothers could have turned into if things had been different.
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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: The Winchester brothers are the Mature Hero Heroes to the archangels' Childish Villains in the Apocalypse arc. Sam and Dean, for all their faults and dysfunction, have moved past their original daddy issues with Jaune John during the first two seasons, and though a serious rift forms between them at the end of Season 4, they don't let it come between them permanently. Furthermore, despite how much the brothers love each-other to the core, they're willing to put safeguarding the fate of the world first when stopping the archangels. The archangels on the other hand are ultimately cosmic, pretentious, overpowered {{manchild}}ren whom are endangering the entire Earth because of their own family drama which involves their absent father, and none of them except Gabriel ever move past this and their broken family is never repaired -- Michael and Lucifer in particular are foils of what Dean and Sam respectively were like when John was still alive in the first season, and of what the brothers could have turned into if things had been different.
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** John's obsessive, two-decades-long crusade to find and kill the monster that killed Mary, at the expense of his sons' entire childhoods and upbringings. He posthumously succeeded in seeing Mary avenged, but it doesn't take away from how much Sam and Dean lost before their lives had even begun, nor from how much it's left them both ''nigh-irreparably'' screwed up in their heads.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible and literally universe-changing victory at the end of Season 5, and his determination to prevent the archangel Raphael from restarting the Apocalypse altogether leads him to sink to all kinds of increasingly heinous lows and refuse to heed any of his friends' or allies' pleas for him to stop. It even gets to the point where Cass starts ''hurting'' his friends and ''killing'' his allies. In the end, although Cass succeeds in eliminating Raphael permanently, he ends up going temporarily mad with power -- "genocides half of Heaven" mad -- and he ends up replacing one world-ending threat with another in the form of the Leviathans, and all his closest friends are completely alienated from him for over a whole season, whereas his surviving brethren's image of him is even more permanently tainted.
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies, oftentimes proving that they've become little to no better than the creatures they hunt, and they can't truly live without each-other anymore. Lucifer of all people calls Sam out on how far the Winchesters have fallen in Season 11, accurately pointing out that they've stopped saving the world and started saving each-other at innocent people's expense.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible and literally universe-changing victory at the end of Season 5, and his determination to prevent the archangel Raphael from restarting the Apocalypse altogether leads him to sink to all kinds of increasingly heinous lows and refuse to heed any of his friends' or allies' pleas for him to stop. It even gets to the point where Cass starts ''hurting'' his friends and ''killing'' his allies. In the end, although Cass succeeds in eliminating Raphael permanently, he ends up going temporarily mad with power -- "genocides half of Heaven" mad -- and he ends up replacing one world-ending threat with another in the form of the Leviathans, and all his closest friends are completely alienated from him for over a whole season, whereas his surviving brethren's image of him is even more permanently tainted.
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies, oftentimes proving that they've become little to no better than the creatures they hunt, and they can't truly live without each-other anymore. Lucifer of all people calls Sam out on how far the Winchesters have fallen in Season 11, accurately pointing out that they've stopped saving the world and started saving each-other at innocent people's expense.
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** John's obsessive, two-decades-long crusade to find and kill the monster that killed Mary, at the expense of his sons' entire childhoods and upbringings. He posthumously succeeded in seeing Mary avenged, but it doesn't take away from how much Sam and Dean lost before their lives had even begun, nor from how much it's it left both of them both ''nigh-irreparably'' screwed up in their heads.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible andliterally universe-changing victory at the end of Season 5, the previous season, and his determination to prevent the archangel Raphael from restarting the Apocalypse altogether leads him to sink to all kinds of increasingly heinous lows and refuse to heed any of his friends' or allies' pleas for him to stop. It even gets to the point where Cass starts ''hurting'' his friends and ''killing'' his allies. In the end, although Cass succeeds in eliminating Raphael permanently, he ends up going temporarily mad with power -- "genocides half of Heaven" mad -- and he ends up replacing unwittingly replaces one world-ending threat with another in the form of the Leviathans, and all his closest friends are completely alienated from him for over a whole season, whereas his surviving brethren's image of him is even more permanently tainted.
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies,oftentimes proving that they've become little to no better than the creatures they hunt, and they can't truly live without each-other anymore. Lucifer of all people calls Sam out on how far the Winchesters have fallen in Season 11, accurately pointing out that they've stopped saving the world and started saving each-other at innocent people's expense.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible and
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies,
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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: The Winchester brothers are the Mature Hero to the archangels' Childish Villains in the Apocalypse arc. Sam and Dean, for all their faults and dysfunction, have moved past their original daddy issues with Jaune during the first two seasons, and though a serious rift forms between them at the end of Season 4, they don't let it come between them permanently. Furthermore, despite how much the brothers love each-other to the core, they're willing to put safeguarding the fate of the world first when stopping the archangels. The archangels on the other hand are ultimately cosmic, pretentious, overpowered {{manchild}}ren whom are endangering the entire Earth because of their own family drama which involves their absent father, and none of them except Gabriel ever move past this and their broken family is never repaired -- Michael and Lucifer in particular are foils of what Dean and Sam respectively were like when John was still alive in the first season, and of what the brothers could have turned into if things had been different.
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** John's obsessive, two-decades-long crusade to find and kill the monster that killed Mary, at the expense of his sons' entire childhoods and upbringings. He posthumously succeeded in seeing Mary avenged, but it doesn't take away from how much Sam and Dean lost before their lives had even begun, nor from how much it's left them both ''nigh-irreparably'' screwed up in their heads.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible and literally universe-changing victory at the end of Season 5, and his determination to prevent the archangel Raphael from restarting the Apocalypse altogether leads him to sink to all kinds of increasingly heinous lows and refuse to heed any of his friends' or allies' pleas for him to stop. It even gets to the point where Cass starts ''hurting'' his friends and ''killing'' his allies. In the end, although Cass succeeds in eliminating Raphael permanently, he ends up going temporarily mad with power -- "genocides half of Heaven" mad -- and he ends up replacing one world-ending threat with another in the form of the Leviathans, and all his closest friends are completely alienated from him for over a whole season, whereas his surviving brethren's image of him is even more permanently tainted.
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies, oftentimes proving that they've become little to no better than the creatures they hunt, and they can't truly live without each-other anymore. Lucifer of all people calls Sam out on how far the Winchesters have fallen in Season 11, accurately pointing out that they've stopped saving the world and started saving each-other at innocent people's expense.
** John's obsessive, two-decades-long crusade to find and kill the monster that killed Mary, at the expense of his sons' entire childhoods and upbringings. He posthumously succeeded in seeing Mary avenged, but it doesn't take away from how much Sam and Dean lost before their lives had even begun, nor from how much it's left them both ''nigh-irreparably'' screwed up in their heads.
** In Season 6, Castiel's [[HolierThanThou hero complex]], the high of his and his friends' nigh-impossible and literally universe-changing victory at the end of Season 5, and his determination to prevent the archangel Raphael from restarting the Apocalypse altogether leads him to sink to all kinds of increasingly heinous lows and refuse to heed any of his friends' or allies' pleas for him to stop. It even gets to the point where Cass starts ''hurting'' his friends and ''killing'' his allies. In the end, although Cass succeeds in eliminating Raphael permanently, he ends up going temporarily mad with power -- "genocides half of Heaven" mad -- and he ends up replacing one world-ending threat with another in the form of the Leviathans, and all his closest friends are completely alienated from him for over a whole season, whereas his surviving brethren's image of him is even more permanently tainted.
** Throughout the Carver era of the show (Seasons 8-11), Sam and Dean, right up until the last season, get the toxic aspects of their relationship ramped up to the max. They take away each-other's choices and stoop to any low to resurrect the other when one of them dies, oftentimes proving that they've become little to no better than the creatures they hunt, and they can't truly live without each-other anymore. Lucifer of all people calls Sam out on how far the Winchesters have fallen in Season 11, accurately pointing out that they've stopped saving the world and started saving each-other at innocent people's expense.
