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** During the Lakers' first game of the 1979-80 season, as they face the San Diego (later Los Angeles) Clippers, the commentators mention Clippers forward Joe "Jellybean" Bryant's infant son, Kobe Bean Bryant, cut to a shot of him and his mother Pam, and put emphasis on his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude rather unusual first and middle name]].
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** During the Lakers' first game of the 1979-80 season, as they face the San Diego (later Los Angeles) Clippers, the commentators mention Clippers forward Joe "Jellybean" Bryant's infant son, [[UsefulNotes/KobeBryant Kobe Bean Bryant, Bryant]], cut to a shot of him and his mother Pam, and put emphasis on his [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude rather unusual first and middle name]].
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It follows Jerry Buss' (Creator/JohnCReilly) helming of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team from Magic Johnson's (Quincy Isaiah) rookie year in 1979 throughout its Showtime era, which lasted throughout TheEighties and up to Johnson's retirement in 1991.
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It follows Jerry Buss' (Creator/JohnCReilly) helming of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team from Magic Johnson's UsefulNotes/MagicJohnson's (Quincy Isaiah) rookie year in 1979 throughout its Showtime era, which lasted throughout TheEighties and up to Johnson's retirement in 1991.
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It premiered on March 6, 2022 on Creator/{{HBO}}. See trailers [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFZd1e-7mhQ here]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqbWwKx1nBU here]].
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It premiered on March 6, 2022 on Creator/{{HBO}}.Creator/{{HBO}} and aired until September 17, 2023 when it was cancelled. See trailers [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFZd1e-7mhQ here]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqbWwKx1nBU here]].
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* AdaptationalUgliness: The real Jerry Buss was more average looking than the KavorkaMan depicted by Creator/JohnCReilly
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* BittersweetEnding: The series ends with the Celtics defeating the Lakers in the 1984 Finals in seven games. However, the last scene shows that Jerry and Jeanie have reconciled and as the epilogue states, the Lakers would get their revenge the next season by beating the Celtics for the championship and all of the main characters would continue their careers to great success.
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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: Following his initial success with the Lakers, Magic is offered a contract extension for $25 million over 25 years, the largest in NBA history, from Buss and immediately accepts it. But as Kareem later points out during his own discussion with Buss, the growing success of the league and its effects on player contracts means that within a few years, Magic's $1 million/year salary will be the standard player rate and he will be unable to renegotiate because the length means he's locked into the contract for the rest of his career. So rather than paying Magic his true value, Buss locked him into a cheap deal that ultimately benefits himself and the team's finances.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: "The Hamburger Hamlet" has Pat Riley, who has been promoted to head coach following Paul Westhead's firing, delivering one of these to the entire team, telling the players that ''all of them'' have let their egos and pettiness get in the way of the team's performance and nobody has the right to deflect blame for their recent struggles, especially Kareem and Magic. The result is the team going on a winning streak and making it all the way to the Finals.
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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Buss and Magic. Truth in television too as they had a very close relationship for the rest of Buss' life.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: For all of Magic's talk about setting aside egos for the sake of the team, he's unwilling to do so himself. Kareem calls him out on it in Season 2.
* InferioritySuperiorityComplex: In Season 2, Paul Westhead's efforts to be more assertive and take charge of the team fall straight into this territory. He's so terrified of anyone or anything that he believes might undermine his authority that he's quick to lashing out.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: Buss andMagic.Magic are this, to both the advantage and detriment of the team as Buss will lend his ear to Magic's thoughts on the team and act accordingly. Truth in television too as they had a very close relationship for the rest of Buss' life.
* InferioritySuperiorityComplex: In Season 2, Paul Westhead's efforts to be more assertive and take charge of the team fall straight into this territory. He's so terrified of anyone or anything that he believes might undermine his authority that he's quick to lashing out.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: Buss and
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* PerspectiveFlip: In contrast to the usual Lakers focused plots, "The Second Coming" dedicates time to showing Larry Bird's backstory and his relationship with Red Auerbach during his signing process.
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* ExtremeDoormat: Paul Westhead basically needs to be handheld through everything and never stands up for himself.
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''Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty'' is a 2022 [[{{Biopic}} biographical]] [[SportsStories sports]] {{dramedy}} series created by Creator/AdamMcKay. It was based on Jeff Pearlman's nonfiction book ''Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s''.
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''Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty'' is a 2022 [[{{Biopic}} biographical]] [[SportsStories sports]] {{dramedy}} series created by Max Borenstein and Jim Hecht and produced by Creator/AdamMcKay. It was based on Jeff Pearlman's nonfiction book ''Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s''.
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''Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty'' is a 2022 [[{{Biopic}} biographical]] [[SportsStories sports]] {{dramedy}} miniseries created by Creator/AdamMcKay. It was based on Jeff Pearlman's nonfiction book ''Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s''.
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''Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty'' is a 2022 [[{{Biopic}} biographical]] [[SportsStories sports]] {{dramedy}} miniseries series created by Creator/AdamMcKay. It was based on Jeff Pearlman's nonfiction book ''Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s''.
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I've been told that's supposed to be his dad, not him as an older man.
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* SilverFox: In several of Pat Riley's scenes, a vision of himself as an older man briefly flashes on screen. While not yet depicted in the show, [[spoiler:Riley in real life eventually became not only head coach of the Lakers through multiple championship seasons but also a major fashion icon.]]
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* TheStrategist: Jack McKinney is the architect of the Showtime offense and is depicted as constantly at his desk, drawing up plays.
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* TheStrategist: Jack McKinney [=McKinney=] is the architect of the Showtime offense and is depicted as constantly at his desk, drawing up plays.
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** West also "showing up" Jerry Buss by announcing his resignation in the middle of a company-wide pep talk is entirely creative license. In real life it was just a standard resignation during the offseason.
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** West also "showing up" Most of the behind-the-scenes drama involving the players and coaching staff is made up by the show. Jerry Buss by announcing his resignation West resigned as head coach behind closed doors in the middle of the offseason, not suddenly in the middle of a company-wide pep talk is entirely creative license. In real life it staff meeting. Paul Westhead was just reasonably confident and successful as a standard resignation during the offseason.head coach, not a diffident basket case constantly in danger of being replaced. The conflict between Magic and Norm Nixon was overblown. Most of Spencer Haywood's drama, however, is somewhat based on reality.
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* SilverFox: In several of Pat Riley's scenes, a vision of himself as an older man briefly flashes on screen. While not yet depicted in the show, [[spoiler:Riley in real life eventually became not only head coach of the Lakers through multiple championship seasons but a major fashion icon.]]
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* SilverFox: In several of Pat Riley's scenes, a vision of himself as an older man briefly flashes on screen. While not yet depicted in the show, [[spoiler:Riley in real life eventually became not only head coach of the Lakers through multiple championship seasons but also a major fashion icon.]]
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* TheStrategist: Jack McKinney is the architect of the Showtime offense and is depicted as constantly at his desk, drawing up plays.
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* CallingYourAttacks: One of Larry Bird's favorite forms of TrashTalk consists of telling his defenders exactly how he plans to score and then doing it.
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* CallingYourAttacks: One of Larry Bird's favorite forms of TrashTalk consists of telling his defenders exactly how he plans to score and then doing it. (Not creative license, as there are numerous stories of the real Bird doing this.)
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* AscendedExtra: Sort of in reverse, due to the first scene being an epilogue of sorts, but Lon Rosen goes from being an intern at the Forum to a member of Magic's inner circle, being his only friend present as he's diagnosed with HIV.
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** West also "showing up" Jerry Buss by announcing his resignation in the middle of a company-wide pep talk is entirely creative license. In real life it was just a standard resignation during the offseason.
** Pat Riley had been on the broadcasting team for two years before the events of the series.
** Pat Riley had been on the broadcasting team for two years before the events of the series.
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* AccidentalMisnaming: The notoriously aloof Kareem calls then-assistant coach Paul Westhead "Jeff" during their first conversation.
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* AccidentalMisnaming: The notoriously aloof Kareem Creator/{{Kareem|AbdulJabbar}} calls then-assistant coach Paul Westhead "Jeff" during their first conversation.
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** Jerry Buss periodically calls his daughter Jeannie "Jean Bean".
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* CatchPhrase: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's is "fuck off."
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* CatchPhrase: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Creator/KareemAbdulJabbar's is "fuck off."
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** Paul Westhead is an exceptional Assistant Coach, but struggles with confidence as a Head Coach.
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* TheUnfavorite: Jeanine Buss knows more about basketball and especially the Lakers than either of her brothers, works to know the ins and outs of how the team works and even up on their finances. So imagine her reaction when her father wants her to take her brothers on a tour of the office and "see which one of them takes a shine to it" to make one of them chief financial officer, a job neither is remotely qualified for compared to Jeanine.
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* TheUnfavorite: Jeanine Jeanie Buss knows more about basketball and especially the Lakers than either of her brothers, works to know the ins and outs of how the team works and even up on their finances. So imagine her reaction when her father wants her to take her brothers on a tour of the office and "see which one of them takes a shine to it" to make one of them chief financial officer, a job neither is remotely qualified for compared to Jeanine.
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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Buss and Magic. Truth in television too as they had a very close relationship for the rest of Buss' life.
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* StepfordSmiler: Jerry West believes Magic's cheerful public image is a façade; Magic doesn't deny it.
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** Landsberger in the Pearlman book is also TheSnitch.
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** Landsberger in the Pearlman book is also TheSnitch.TheStoolPigeon.
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* RuleOfDrama: And how! This has been the source of a lot of angst (from the real life people portrayed) to added interest from others and publicity for HBO itself.
