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*** Unless you remember how they ransacked a town of innocent civilians and children, and hinted multiple times about wanting to rape Elizabeth. Yeah, Barbossa and his crew may have been sympathetic villains, but they were straight forward "we rape, we pillage" pirates. It was only in the sequels that Barbossa and the members of his crew popular with the fans became LighterAndSofter antiheroes.

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*** Unless you remember how they ransacked a town of innocent civilians and children, and the crew hinted multiple times about wanting to rape Elizabeth. Yeah, Barbossa and his crew may have been sympathetic villains, but they while Barbossa might have had certain gentlemanly standards in Elizabeth's treatment (or not - Pintel and Ragetti told her that Barbossa had said that if she didn't dine with him in the admittedly elegant dress he picked out, she'd be dining with the crew, naked), most of them were straight forward "we rape, we pillage" pirates. pirates and the explicit reason they revolted against Jack was because they didn't appreciate his preference to avoid harming people wherever possible. It was only in the sequels that Barbossa and the members of his crew popular with the fans became LighterAndSofter antiheroes. antiheroes - and it is noted that the only survivors of the original crew (Barbossa himself, and Pintel and Ragetti, are the ones who were relatively lighter to begin with).



** On the flipside, John Harrison/[[spoiler:Khan]] gets a lot of this due to his sympathetic motivations to save his crew [[spoiler:from Marcus]]. Throw in Creator/BenedictCumberbatch's charismatic performance, [[EvilIsCool stylish]] [[BadassLongcoat threads]], [[BadassBaritone booming voice]] and we've got a full blown example here.

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** On the flipside, John Harrison/[[spoiler:Khan]] gets a lot of this due to his sympathetic motivations to save his crew [[spoiler:from Marcus]]. Throw in Creator/BenedictCumberbatch's charismatic performance, [[EvilIsCool stylish]] [[BadassLongcoat threads]], [[BadassBaritone booming voice]] and we've got a full blown example here. Of course, one has to remember that - as Spock points out - once he gets his crew back, he'll wake them all up and continue their SuperSupremacist campaign that led to the Eugenics Wars.



** With ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', Lucas had this happen ''intentionally'': the movie introduces the sympathetic Clonetroopers, who save the Jedi and rout the movie's villains. Then comes the finale, and the movie reminds that the watchers had been rooting for what will become The Empire by giving them the Imperial March as score.

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** With ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', Lucas had this happen ''intentionally'': the movie introduces the sympathetic Clonetroopers, Clone Troopers, who save the Jedi and rout the movie's villains. Then comes the finale, and the movie reminds that the watchers had been rooting for what will become The Empire by giving them the Imperial March as score.



*** For those that think the “heroes on both sides” line was just an InformedAttribute in the movies, ''The Clone Wars'' makes it abundantly clear there’s not much between these two factions. The Separatists have their own Senate which Count Dooku is willing to bow his head too and have genuine supporters who weren’t beaten into submission and/or super rich. On the other hand, the Republic Senate is presented as a group of corrupt warmongers (bar a few, like Padme and Bail Organa) Who are constantly backstabbing each other and have an episode every season devoted to them stepping up war measures. There’s a reason planets like Mandalore stayed neutral. Though, ''The Clone Wars'' also compensates for the trilogy's use of OffscreenVillainy by having Separatist commanders KickTheDog at every opportunity by butchering civilian populations. Especially [[CardCarryingVillain General Grievous]].
** And now with the premiere of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', we have the First Order to add to the list. Essentially a Galactic Empire wannabe organization (complete with unsubtle stand-ins for Palpatine and Darth Vader), the First Order nonetheless has its fans for much the same reasons the Empire before it, up to and including having [[PuttingOnTheReich better uniforms, equipment and organizational structure]] than the good guys (indeed, most of the film's [[AllThereInTheManual side material]] is focused on the First Order's gear and composition, with Leia's [[LaResistance Resistance]] being treated as little more than an afterthought). Helps even less that, according to said side material, the New Republic is even more inept than its ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' incarnation ever was, having [[spoiler:gutted its own military in the aftermath of the original war because [[TooDumbToLive it thought the Empire was gone for good]] as well as providing said Resistance, which is fighting on ''its behalf'' against an [[TheRemnant Imperial remnant]] that the Republic ''failed'' bring down (and doesn't even perceive as a threat), with only a token level of support.]] Part of the military gutting was accidental, as the lore flat out states that the New Republic is so corrupt that the sheer amount of funds the politicians took for themselves (implied to be illegally, too) caused the cessation of production of the current iteration of the X-Wing; forcing the Republic and Resistance alike to use older models.

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*** For those that think the “heroes on both sides” line was just an InformedAttribute in the movies, ''The Clone Wars'' makes it abundantly clear there’s not much between these two factions. The Separatists have their own Senate which Count Dooku is willing to bow his head too and have genuine supporters who weren’t beaten into submission and/or super rich. On the other hand, the Republic Senate is presented as a group of corrupt warmongers (bar a few, like Padme and Bail Organa) Who who are constantly backstabbing each other and have an episode every season devoted to them stepping up war measures. There’s a reason planets like Mandalore stayed neutral. Though, ''The Clone Wars'' also compensates for the trilogy's use of OffscreenVillainy by having Separatist commanders KickTheDog at every opportunity by butchering civilian populations. Especially [[CardCarryingVillain General Grievous]].
** And now with the premiere of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', we have the First Order to add to the list. Essentially a Galactic Empire wannabe organization (complete with unsubtle stand-ins for Palpatine and Darth Vader), Vader - though in the latter case, this was consciously invoked InUniverse, with Kylo Ren trying very hard to live up to his grandfather's legacy... as a Sith Lord), the First Order nonetheless has its fans for much the same reasons the Empire before it, up to and including having [[PuttingOnTheReich better uniforms, equipment and organizational structure]] than the good guys (indeed, most of the film's [[AllThereInTheManual side material]] is focused on the First Order's gear and composition, with Leia's [[LaResistance Resistance]] being treated as little more than an afterthought). Helps even less that, according to said side material, the New Republic is even more inept than its ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' incarnation ever was, having [[spoiler:gutted its own military in the aftermath of the original war because [[TooDumbToLive it thought the Empire was gone for good]] as well as providing said Resistance, which is fighting on ''its behalf'' against an [[TheRemnant Imperial remnant]] that the Republic ''failed'' bring down (and doesn't even perceive as a threat), with only a token level of support.]] Part of the military gutting was accidental, as the lore flat out states that the New Republic is so corrupt that the sheer amount of funds the politicians took for themselves (implied to be illegally, too) caused the cessation of production of the current iteration of the X-Wing; forcing the Republic and Resistance alike to use older models.



* The Persians get this treatment in both ''Film/ThreeHundred'' and [[Film/ThreeHundredRiseOfAnEmpire its sequel]]. Some people disliked how [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the ancient Spartans are depicted as heroic freedom fighters]], which runs contrary to real life evidence that Sparta practiced eugenics and slavery. The demonization of Persians particularly irritated some Jewish and Israeli viewers given how historically it was the Persians who ended the enslavement of ancient Hebrews residing in Babylon. Further muddying the morality is that some critics saw Persia as a massive, wealthy and culturally diverse empire bent on expanding its influence throughout the world, while the Spartans are zealous fighters who are willing to break the rules of war and martyr themselves to resist the invaders, which makes Persia represent the United States and Spartans represent the Middle Easterners.

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* The Persians get this treatment in both ''Film/ThreeHundred'' and [[Film/ThreeHundredRiseOfAnEmpire its sequel]]. Some people disliked how [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade the ancient Spartans are depicted as heroic freedom fighters]], which runs contrary to real life evidence that Sparta practiced eugenics and slavery. The demonization of Persians particularly irritated some Jewish and Israeli viewers given how historically it was the Persians who ended the enslavement of ancient Hebrews residing in Babylon.Babylon - indeed, the ruler who freed them, Emperor Cyrus, released what is sometimes considered to be the first text of Human Rights. Further muddying the morality is that some critics saw Persia as a massive, wealthy and culturally diverse empire bent on expanding its influence throughout the world, while the Spartans are zealous fighters who are willing to break the rules of war and martyr themselves to resist the invaders, which makes Persia represent the United States and Spartans represent the Middle Easterners.


* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', due to its {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop gets a lot of backlash against the Na'vi and for RDA. ''Especially'' concerning Colonel Quaritch; see the ColonelBadass page. In fact, so many viewers found themselves rooting for the Colonel that Creator/JamesCameron has already promised that Quaritch will be reappearing in every sequel.

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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', due to its {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop gets a lot of backlash against the Na'vi and for RDA.RDA despite the fact that they were willing to commit genocide against an entire species. ''Especially'' concerning Colonel Quaritch; see the ColonelBadass page. In fact, so many viewers found themselves rooting for the Colonel that Creator/JamesCameron has already promised that Quaritch will be reappearing in every sequel.


*** For those that think the “heroes on both sides” line was just an InformedAttribute in the movies, ''The Clone Wars'' makes it abundantly clear there’s not much between these two factions. The Separatists have their own Senate which Count Dooku is willing to bow his head too and have genuine supporters who weren’t beaten into submission and/or super rich. On the other hand, the Republic Senate is presented as a group of corrupt warmongers (bar a few, like Padme and Bail Organa) Who are constantly backstabbing each other and have an episode every season devoted to them stepping up war measures. There’s a reason planets like Mandalore stayed neutral.

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*** For those that think the “heroes on both sides” line was just an InformedAttribute in the movies, ''The Clone Wars'' makes it abundantly clear there’s not much between these two factions. The Separatists have their own Senate which Count Dooku is willing to bow his head too and have genuine supporters who weren’t beaten into submission and/or super rich. On the other hand, the Republic Senate is presented as a group of corrupt warmongers (bar a few, like Padme and Bail Organa) Who are constantly backstabbing each other and have an episode every season devoted to them stepping up war measures. There’s a reason planets like Mandalore stayed neutral. Though, ''The Clone Wars'' also compensates for the trilogy's use of OffscreenVillainy by having Separatist commanders KickTheDog at every opportunity by butchering civilian populations. Especially [[CardCarryingVillain General Grievous]].


** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, agreement with his views on [[OverpopulationCrisis a universe with just too much life]], or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes (despite the fact that this had already been averted ''hard'' in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]

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** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, agreement with his views on [[OverpopulationCrisis a universe with just too much life]], or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes (despite the fact that this had already been averted ''hard'' in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]


* ''Film/HocusPocus'': Nearly everyone who watches the film (and especially the now-twenty-somethings who first watched it as children and made it into a CultClassic) actively roots for the Sanderson Sisters to succeed, despite their plan being to [[VampiricDraining suck the life]] out of [[WouldHurtAChild every child in Salem, Massachusetts]]. Bette Midler (Winifred), Kathy Najimy (Mary), and Sarah Jessica Parker (Sarah) do such a [[LargeHam wondrously hammy]] job of selling the witches as comic, occasionally inept villains that it's easy to forget that they're extremely powerful and dangerous. It helps that [[WordOfGod Midler herself has gone on record]] as saying that ''Hocus Pocus'' is her favorite film in her career. For proof, take a look at the sheer amount of merchandise that's been released over the years--it's pretty much completely centered on Winnie, Sarah, and Mary (the only other character who's featured is Binx, with the three human protagonists barely appearing at all). While a sequel probably won't happen, the fans' devotion to the Sandersons has led to ''Theatre/HocusPocusVillainSpelltacular'' during Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party at Walt Disney World in 2015--that is, ''twenty-two years'' after the movie debuted--which reveals that the witches survived the encounter (or, at least, can be revived on Halloween night again). Needless to say, the fans were positively ecstatic, and the Spelltacular has become the centerpiece of the event every year since.

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* ''Film/HocusPocus'': Nearly everyone who watches the film (and especially the now-twenty-somethings who first watched it as children and made it into a CultClassic) actively roots for the Sanderson Sisters to succeed, despite their plan being to [[VampiricDraining suck the life]] out of [[WouldHurtAChild every child in Salem, Massachusetts]]. Bette Midler Creator/BetteMidler (Winifred), Kathy Najimy (Mary), and Sarah Jessica Parker Creator/SarahJessicaParker (Sarah) do such a [[LargeHam wondrously hammy]] job of selling the witches as comic, occasionally inept villains that it's easy to forget that they're extremely powerful and dangerous. It helps that [[WordOfGod Midler herself has gone on record]] as saying that ''Hocus Pocus'' is her favorite film in her career. For proof, take a look at the sheer amount of merchandise that's been released over the years--it's pretty much completely centered on Winnie, Sarah, and Mary (the only other character who's featured is Binx, with the three human protagonists barely appearing at all). While a sequel probably won't happen, the fans' devotion to the Sandersons has led to ''Theatre/HocusPocusVillainSpelltacular'' during Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party at Walt Disney World in 2015--that is, ''twenty-two years'' after the movie debuted--which reveals that the witches survived the encounter (or, at least, can be revived on Halloween night again). Needless to say, the fans were positively ecstatic, and the Spelltacular has become the centerpiece of the event every year since.



* ''Film/JamesBond'': ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'': According to Richard Kiel, who played [[ImplacableMan Jaws]], Jaws' survival at the end was met with giant applause at several screenings. He might be a villain, but he's such a {{Determinator}} that after a while you sort of root for him.

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* ''Film/JamesBond'': ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'': According to Richard Kiel, Creator/RichardKiel, who played [[ImplacableMan Jaws]], Jaws' survival at the end was met with giant applause at several screenings. He might be a villain, but he's such a {{Determinator}} that after a while you sort of root for him.


** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' avoided this with the first film since it was promoted as [[ContinuityReboot a return to the big screen for Batman]] while his villains were given little fanfare (and this one technically had four villains from the comics). ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' invoked this trope considerably due to 1) ComicBook/TheJoker returning to the big screen 2) Despite the darker approach, still being as captivating and LaughablyEvil as Jack Nicholson and Creator/CaesarRomero 3) Creator/HeathLedger passing away shortly after the movie was completed. Ledger became the first actor in history to ''win an Oscar'' ([[DeadArtistsAreBetter albeit posthumously]]) for playing a character in a film adaptation of a comic, although Creator/AlPacino, Creator/PaulNewman, and Creator/WilliamHurt had all previously been nominated. Then ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' combined both, giving much focus to the villains but making their plans and actions too extreme for audiences to prefer them to Batman.

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** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' avoided this with the first film since it was promoted as [[ContinuityReboot a return to the big screen for Batman]] while his villains were given little fanfare (and this one technically had four villains from the comics). ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' invoked this trope considerably due to 1) ComicBook/TheJoker returning to the big screen 2) Despite the darker approach, still being as captivating and LaughablyEvil as Jack Nicholson and Creator/CaesarRomero Creator/CesarRomero 3) Creator/HeathLedger passing away shortly after the movie was completed. Ledger became the first actor in history to ''win an Oscar'' ([[DeadArtistsAreBetter albeit posthumously]]) for playing a character in a film adaptation of a comic, although Creator/AlPacino, Creator/PaulNewman, and Creator/WilliamHurt had all previously been nominated. Then ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' combined both, giving much focus to the villains but making their plans and actions too extreme for audiences to prefer them to Batman.


** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]

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** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, agreement with his views on [[OverpopulationCrisis a universe with just too much life]], or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes.heroes (despite the fact that this had already been averted ''hard'' in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]


* This is a very common attitude regarding [[SlasherMovie slasher movies]] like ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' or ''Franchise/NightmareOnElmStreet'', as the protagonists are often generic and/or idiotic, and most of them are certain to get killed before the end, so even though the villains are monstrously evil serial killers, the audience will usually just end up wanting them to see them rack up a big body count rather than seeing the protagonists defeat the killer because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it's likely hopeless for them to kill the antagonist anyway]], and [[JustHereForGodzilla you don't go into a slasher movie not wanting to see people getting slashed]].

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* This is a very common attitude regarding [[SlasherMovie slasher movies]] like ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' or ''Franchise/NightmareOnElmStreet'', ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet'', as the protagonists are often generic and/or idiotic, and most of them are certain to get killed before the end, so even though the villains are monstrously evil serial killers, the audience will usually just end up wanting them to see them rack up a big body count rather than seeing the protagonists defeat the killer because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it's likely hopeless for them to kill the antagonist anyway]], and [[JustHereForGodzilla you don't go into a slasher movie not wanting to see people getting slashed]].


* This is a very common attitude regarding [[SlasherMovie slasher movies]] like ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' or ''Film/NightmareOnElmStreet'', as the protagonists are often generic and/or idiotic, and most of them are certain to get killed before the end, so even though the villains are monstrously evil serial killers, the audience will usually just end up wanting them to see them rack up a big body count rather than seeing the protagonists defeat the killer because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it's likely hopeless for them to kill the antagonist anyway]], and [[JustHereForGodzilla you don't go into a slasher movie not wanting to see people getting slashed]].

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* This is a very common attitude regarding [[SlasherMovie slasher movies]] like ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' or ''Film/NightmareOnElmStreet'', ''Franchise/NightmareOnElmStreet'', as the protagonists are often generic and/or idiotic, and most of them are certain to get killed before the end, so even though the villains are monstrously evil serial killers, the audience will usually just end up wanting them to see them rack up a big body count rather than seeing the protagonists defeat the killer because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it's likely hopeless for them to kill the antagonist anyway]], and [[JustHereForGodzilla you don't go into a slasher movie not wanting to see people getting slashed]].



* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', due to its {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop gets a lot of backlash against the Na'vi and for RDA. ''Especially'' concerning Colonel Quaritch; see the ColonelBadass page. In fact, so many viewers found themselves rooting for the Colonel that James Cameron has already promised that Quaritch will be reappearing in every sequel.
* Those unfortunate enough to watch ''Film/BioDome'' cheered when the scientists decided to lock Pauly Shore and Stephen Baldwin's characters inside the Bio-Dome to die.

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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', due to its {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop gets a lot of backlash against the Na'vi and for RDA. ''Especially'' concerning Colonel Quaritch; see the ColonelBadass page. In fact, so many viewers found themselves rooting for the Colonel that James Cameron Creator/JamesCameron has already promised that Quaritch will be reappearing in every sequel.
* Those unfortunate enough to watch ''Film/BioDome'' cheered when the scientists decided to lock Pauly Shore Bud and Stephen Baldwin's characters Doyle inside the Bio-Dome to die.



** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' avoided this with the first film since it was promoted as [[ContinuityReboot a return to the big screen for Batman]] while his villains were given little fanfare (and this one technically had four villains from the comics). ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' invoked this trope considerably due to 1) ComicBook/TheJoker returning to the big screen 2) Despite the darker approach, still being as captivating and LaughablyEvil as Jack Nicholson and Caesar Romero 3) Creator/HeathLedger passing away shortly after the movie was completed. Ledger became the first actor in history to ''win an Oscar'' ([[DeadArtistsAreBetter albeit posthumously]]) for playing a character in a film adaptation of a comic, although [[Film/DickTracy Al Pacino]], [[Film/RoadToPerdition Paul Newman]], and [[Film/AHistoryOfViolence William Hurt]] had all previously been nominated. Then ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' combined both, giving much focus to the villains but making their plans and actions too extreme for audiences to prefer them to Batman.
* Creator/DannyElfman recalled in an interview for Hollywood Backstories on how some men in test screenings for ''Film/EdwardScissorhands'' were rooting for Jim due to sympathizing with how a "fag" could steal his girlfriend.

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** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' avoided this with the first film since it was promoted as [[ContinuityReboot a return to the big screen for Batman]] while his villains were given little fanfare (and this one technically had four villains from the comics). ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' invoked this trope considerably due to 1) ComicBook/TheJoker returning to the big screen 2) Despite the darker approach, still being as captivating and LaughablyEvil as Jack Nicholson and Caesar Romero Creator/CaesarRomero 3) Creator/HeathLedger passing away shortly after the movie was completed. Ledger became the first actor in history to ''win an Oscar'' ([[DeadArtistsAreBetter albeit posthumously]]) for playing a character in a film adaptation of a comic, although [[Film/DickTracy Al Pacino]], [[Film/RoadToPerdition Paul Newman]], Creator/AlPacino, Creator/PaulNewman, and [[Film/AHistoryOfViolence William Hurt]] Creator/WilliamHurt had all previously been nominated. Then ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' combined both, giving much focus to the villains but making their plans and actions too extreme for audiences to prefer them to Batman.
* Creator/DannyElfman Music/DannyElfman recalled in an interview for Hollywood Backstories ''Hollywood Backstories'' on how some men in test screenings for ''Film/EdwardScissorhands'' were rooting for Jim due to sympathizing with how a "fag" could steal his girlfriend.



* In ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff'', the principal is only trying to prove to the world that Ferris is a truant, pathological liar who neither deserves the endless praise he gets nor should be allowed to skip school whenever he feels like it. Even though the principal goes a bit too far in trying to prove the truth about Bueller, it is easy to sympathize with the man's desire to finally bring a KarmaHoudini down. Alternatively it isn't so much rooting for the principal (who is kind of a jerk) as rooting ''against'' Ferris (who is just as much of a jerk, and annoyingly smug to boot, some people even thinking Ferris shows signs of [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]).

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* In ''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff'', the principal Ed Rooney is only trying to prove to the world that Ferris is a truant, pathological liar who neither deserves the endless praise he gets nor should be allowed to skip school whenever he feels like it. Even though the principal goes a bit too far in trying to prove the truth about Bueller, it is easy to sympathize with the man's desire to finally bring a KarmaHoudini down. Alternatively it isn't so much rooting for the principal Rooney (who is kind of a jerk) as rooting ''against'' Ferris (who is just as much of a jerk, and annoyingly smug to boot, some people even thinking Ferris shows signs of [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]).



* Sometimes happens with the shark in ''Film/{{Jaws}}''. Mostly due to RuleOfCool - and also the shark being on its own against three better equipped human protagonists, which just doesn't seem fair. Spielberg admitted that when he read the book, [[EightDeadlyWords he disliked the characters so much]] [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3400291.stm he wanted the shark to win]]. It's one of the reasons he applied some AdaptationDistillation.\\

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* Sometimes happens with the shark in ''Film/{{Jaws}}''. Mostly due to RuleOfCool - and also the shark being on its own against three better equipped human protagonists, which just doesn't seem fair. Spielberg Creator/StevenSpielberg admitted that when he read the book, [[EightDeadlyWords he disliked the characters so much]] [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3400291.stm he wanted the shark to win]]. It's one of the reasons he applied some AdaptationDistillation.\\



* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': Some found Zod to be a much more sympathetic and developed character than Superman himself despite his crossings into the MoralEventHorizon. This could be attributed to Michael Shannon's emotional portrayal of him, showing how dedicated he is to follow his fate as Krypton's top warrior. Especially his justification for his actions- he was literally ''[[InTheBlood born]]'' to be a warrior and protect Krypton and its citizens, ''no matter what''. His VillainousBreakdown towards the end, where he claims that Superman has taken his soul by [[spoiler:destroying any hope of rebuilding Krypton]], [[TearJerker/ManOfSteel definitely helped cement this.]]

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* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': Some found Zod to be a much more sympathetic and developed character than Superman himself despite his crossings into the MoralEventHorizon. This could be attributed to Michael Shannon's Creator/MichaelShannon's emotional portrayal of him, showing how dedicated he is to follow his fate as Krypton's top warrior. Especially his justification for his actions- he was literally ''[[InTheBlood born]]'' to be a warrior and protect Krypton and its citizens, ''no matter what''. His VillainousBreakdown towards the end, where he claims that Superman has taken his soul by [[spoiler:destroying any hope of rebuilding Krypton]], [[TearJerker/ManOfSteel definitely helped cement this.]]



** Several ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' fans side with [[TragicVillain Killmonger]], outright calling him "[[http://junkee.com/black-panther-killmonger-hero/147096 the]] [[http://afropunk.com/2018/02/killmonger-real-hero-refuse-assimilate-elitist-blackness-leaves-many-behind/ real]] [[https://thetylt.com/entertainment/erik-killmonger-black-panther-hero-villain hero]]". Granted, he experienced the worst of American racism and rightfully points out Wakanda complicity in atrocities against Africans by refusing to intervene outside of preserving its isolationism. That said, there's also the tiny little issue of him having a black supremacist views with openly genocidal intentions and the implication that he doesn't care about other people as much as he does about venting his wrath, but those are trivial details.

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** Several ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' fans side with [[TragicVillain Killmonger]], outright calling him "[[http://junkee.com/black-panther-killmonger-hero/147096 the]] [[http://afropunk.com/2018/02/killmonger-real-hero-refuse-assimilate-elitist-blackness-leaves-many-behind/ real]] [[https://thetylt.com/entertainment/erik-killmonger-black-panther-hero-villain hero]]". Granted, he experienced the worst of American racism and rightfully points out Wakanda Wakanda's complicity in atrocities against Africans by refusing to intervene outside of preserving its isolationism. That said, there's also the tiny little issue of him having a black supremacist views with openly genocidal intentions and the implication that he doesn't care about other people as much as he does about venting his wrath, but those are trivial details.



** On the flipside, John Harrison/[[spoiler:Khan]] gets a lot of this due to his sympathetic motivations to save his crew [[spoiler:from Marcus]]. Throw in [[Creator/BenedictCumberbatch Benedict Cumberbatch's]] charismatic performance, [[EvilIsCool stylish]] [[BadassLongcoat threads]], [[BadassBaritone booming voice]] and we've got a full blown example here.

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** On the flipside, John Harrison/[[spoiler:Khan]] gets a lot of this due to his sympathetic motivations to save his crew [[spoiler:from Marcus]]. Throw in [[Creator/BenedictCumberbatch Benedict Cumberbatch's]] Creator/BenedictCumberbatch's charismatic performance, [[EvilIsCool stylish]] [[BadassLongcoat threads]], [[BadassBaritone booming voice]] and we've got a full blown example here.


* Modern audiences who watch ''Film/GoneWithTheWind'', and are not as in love with [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the Confederacy]] as the filmmakers seem to be, may find themselves cheering at the Burning of Atlanta. (Ironically, at the time, most Atlantans were not offended at the Burning of Atlanta; [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity they were just happy that a film had been made about "them."]])

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* Modern audiences who watch ''Film/GoneWithTheWind'', and are not as in love with [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the Confederacy]] as the filmmakers seem to be, may find themselves cheering at the Burning of Atlanta. (Ironically, at when the time, film was released, most Atlantans were not offended at the Burning of Atlanta; [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity they were just happy that a film had been made about "them."]])

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* This is a very common attitude regarding [[SlasherMovie slasher movies]] like ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' or ''Film/NightmareOnElmStreet'', as the protagonists are often generic and/or idiotic, and most of them are certain to get killed before the end, so even though the villains are monstrously evil serial killers, the audience will usually just end up wanting them to see them rack up a big body count rather than seeing the protagonists defeat the killer because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it's likely hopeless for them to kill the antagonist anyway]], and [[JustHereForGodzilla you don't go into a slasher movie not wanting to see people getting slashed]].


* ''Film/JamesBond''
** ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'': According to Richard Kiel, who played [[ImplacableMan Jaws]], Jaws' survival at the end was met with giant applause at several screenings. He might be a villain, but he's such a {{Determinator}} that after a while you sort of root for him.

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* ''Film/JamesBond''
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''Film/JamesBond'': ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'': According to Richard Kiel, who played [[ImplacableMan Jaws]], Jaws' survival at the end was met with giant applause at several screenings. He might be a villain, but he's such a {{Determinator}} that after a while you sort of root for him.



** The attempts to depict the Empire as the cruel uncaring regime that views its subjects as disposable as seen with Operation Cinder in ''VideoGames/StarWarsBattleFront2'' and how even hardline followers of the empire like Inferno Squad would defect.

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** The attempts to depict the Empire as the cruel uncaring regime that views its subjects as disposable as seen with Operation Cinder in ''VideoGames/StarWarsBattleFront2'' ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017'' and how even hardline followers of the empire like Inferno Squad would defect.


* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'':
** ''Film/{{Thor}}'': Sure, Loki tries to commit genocide -- but he's such a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] along the way that a lot of people feel [[CryForTheDevil sorry for him]]. It got more intense when ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' rolled around, despite him becoming outright ''nuts''. After the death of [[spoiler:Frigga]] he gets even more sympathy especially since [[spoiler:he's not allowed to attend her funeral]].
** Several ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' fans side with [[TragicVillain Killmonger]], outright calling him "[[http://junkee.com/black-panther-killmonger-hero/147096 the]] [[http://afropunk.com/2018/02/killmonger-real-hero-refuse-assimilate-elitist-blackness-leaves-many-behind/ real]] [[https://thetylt.com/entertainment/erik-killmonger-black-panther-hero-villain hero]]". Granted, he experienced the worst of American racism and rightfully points out Wakanda complicity in atrocities against Africans by refusing to intervene outside of preserving its isolationism. That said, there's also the tiny little issue of him having a black supremacist views with openly genocidal intentions and the implication that he doesn't care about other people as much as he does about venting his wrath, but those are trivial details.
** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]



* ''Film/{{Thor}}'': Sure, [[spoiler:Loki]] tries to commit genocide -- but he's such a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] along the way that a lot of people feel [[CryForTheDevil sorry for him]]. It got more intense when ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' rolled around, despite him becoming outright ''nuts''. After the death of [[spoiler:Frigga]] he gets even more sympathy especially since [[spoiler:he's not allowed to attend her funeral]].



* Several ''Film/BlackPanther2018'' fans side with [[TragicVillain Killmonger]], outright calling him "[[http://junkee.com/black-panther-killmonger-hero/147096 the]] [[http://afropunk.com/2018/02/killmonger-real-hero-refuse-assimilate-elitist-blackness-leaves-many-behind/ real]] [[https://thetylt.com/entertainment/erik-killmonger-black-panther-hero-villain hero]]". Granted, he experienced the worst of American racism and rightfully points out Wakanda complicity in atrocities against Africans by refusing to intervene outside of preserving its isolationism. That said, there's also the tiny little issue of him having a black supremacist views with openly genocidal intentions and the implication that he doesn't care about other people as much as he does about venting his wrath, but those are trivial details.
* In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', some fans want [[OmnicidalManiac Thanos]] to complete the Infinity Gauntlet and kill the MCU heroes. This maybe due to Creator/{{Josh Brolin}}'s compelling performance as Thanos, the mad titan's surprisingly sympathetic backstory, or fans who are sick of the overuse of DisneyDeath for the heroes. Of course with him being the VillainProtagonist, many fans feel that Thanos has to win in order to live up to the hype. [[spoiler: Notably, these fans got their wish – though Thanos did not kill all of the heroes, he killed the majority of them.]]


* Enforced via marketing with ''Film/SmallSoldiers'', a film about a robotic squad of toy soldiers (the Commando Elite) gaining sentience and trying to kill a group of equally sentient robotic toy aliens (the Gorgonites)...along with the human family that's protecting them. Unfortunately for the Gorgonites, the film's marketing focused almost entirely on the Commando Elite and how awesome they are even though they're supposed to be the villains. The real life toy line put more of a focus on the Commando Elite as well. In the movie, the Commando Elite were created to be the good guys and the Gorgonites were an existing concept repurposed to be the villains, before they switched roles early on.

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* Enforced via marketing with ''Film/SmallSoldiers'', a film about a robotic squad of toy soldiers (the Commando Elite) gaining sentience and trying to kill a group of equally sentient robotic toy aliens (the Gorgonites)...along with the human family that's protecting them. Unfortunately for the Gorgonites, the film's marketing focused almost entirely on the Commando Elite and how awesome they are even though they're supposed to be the villains. The real life toy line put more of a focus on the Commando Elite as well. In the movie, the Commando Elite were created to be the good guys and the Gorgonites were an existing concept repurposed to be the villains, before they switched roles early on. Thanks to an in-universe case of being ChristmasRushed and a WriterRevolt by the original creator of the Gorgonites their original sympathetic backstory was kept while the Commandos were a DesignatedHero faction given no motivation beyond destroying them.

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*** For those that think the “heroes on both sides” line was just an InformedAttribute in the movies, ''The Clone Wars'' makes it abundantly clear there’s not much between these two factions. The Separatists have their own Senate which Count Dooku is willing to bow his head too and have genuine supporters who weren’t beaten into submission and/or super rich. On the other hand, the Republic Senate is presented as a group of corrupt warmongers (bar a few, like Padme and Bail Organa) Who are constantly backstabbing each other and have an episode every season devoted to them stepping up war measures. There’s a reason planets like Mandalore stayed neutral.

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