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* DemocracyIsBad: Sargus 4 runs on a total democracy. Everything is voted on by public opinion and facts are what the majority considers true. Essentially, conviction by social media. Of course, the [[AnAesop Aesop]] seems to be that DemocracyIsBad only when taken UpToEleven and not grounded in the rule of law, as Mercer extols the representative democracy of the Planetary Union.

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* DemocracyIsBad: DemocracyIsFlawed: Sargus 4 runs on a total democracy.direct e-democracy. Everything is voted on by public opinion and facts are what the majority considers true. Essentially, conviction by social media. Of course, the [[AnAesop Aesop]] seems to be that DemocracyIsBad only when taken UpToEleven and not grounded in the rule of law, as Mercer extols the representative democracy of the Planetary Union.

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** [=LaMarr=] is arrested for getting filmed dry-humping a statue, and faces a forced lobotomy if he can't convince the public to change their minds.

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* NippleAndDimed: Played with; during the scene of Lysella waking up at the end of the episode, her left nipple is clearly visible in outline under her top.

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[[caption-width-right:350:[=LaMarr=] learns the hard way that reputation matters]]

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* AndIMustScream: The fate of the Union anthropologist that is lobotomized. Claire says that the resulting brain damage is so extensive that even 25th century Union medicine is unable to do anything for him, and he'll basically be a vegetable for the rest of his life.

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** Granted, she was clearly with them for a longer period of time than the very few minutes shown in scenes. It's quite possible that they talked more about it during that time.

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* SocialMediaIsBad: The episode centers around a planet where the entire society is rooted in social media, to the point where they vote on what is considered facts (such as which medicines work, what products are healthy etc.) with what is most popular being considered the truth, and that people can be turned down from services if they receive too many downvotes (for which the count is never reset, so people who acquire a lot in their youth have to carry them for the rest of their life). This extends to the justice system, with guilty/innocent verdicts being rendered by "likes" and "dislikes". Get a few million dislikes, and you get a lobotomy. Lt. John Lamarr runs afoul of this when someone video tapes him dancing on a statue of one of the planet's beloved public figures.


* CrapsaccharineWorld: Sargus 4 is very similar to 21st century Earth and appears to be pleasant on the surface, but it's a world where failing to give up your seat to a pregnant woman gets you lobotomized for being a jerk.

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* CrapsaccharineWorld: Sargus 4 is very similar to 21st century Earth and appears to be pleasant on the surface, but it's a world where failing to give up your seat to a pregnant woman gets you lobotomized for being a jerk.jerk, even if you're just absentminded and didn't notice her standing there.


** Five minutes upon arriving on an unknown world, [=LaMarr=] decides to draw attention to himself in the worst way possible by grinding on a local monument.

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** Five minutes upon arriving on an unknown world, [=LaMarr=] decides to draw attention to himself in the worst way possible by grinding on a local monument. And this was ''after'' Mercer had specifically ordered the team not to call any needless attention to themselves.


** We eventually find out why the two anthropologists were corrected: they refused to give up their seats on the Sargusian equivalent of a subway train to a pregnant woman. Claire speculates that this was merely the result of them being too distracted by their work to notice her, but as Lysella points out, their reasons don't matter; public opinion is all that matters.
** Alara nearly ends up subjected to the Sargusian justice system herself because her hat happens to be that of a culture to which she doesn't belong, which angers a native of said culture and attracts the attention of the public. Fortunately, Claire manages to defuse the situation.

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** We eventually find out why the two anthropologists were corrected: they refused to give up their seats on the Sargusian Sargun equivalent of a subway train to a pregnant woman. Claire speculates that this was merely the result of them being too distracted by their work to notice her, but as Lysella points out, their reasons don't matter; public opinion is all that matters.
** Alara nearly ends up subjected to the Sargusian Sargun justice system herself because her hat happens to be that of a culture to which she doesn't belong, which angers a native of said culture and attracts the attention of the public. Fortunately, Claire manages to defuse the situation.



* FateWorseThanDeath: Undergoing the "correction", which is the Sargusian equivalent of a lobotomy. One of the anthropologists tries to flee upon seeing the chair and is promptly shot by a guard. Claire determines that even Union medicine is incapable of reversing the brain damage.

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* FateWorseThanDeath: Undergoing the "correction", which is the Sargusian Sargun equivalent of a lobotomy. One of the anthropologists tries to flee upon seeing the chair and is promptly shot by a guard. Claire determines that even Union medicine is incapable of reversing the brain damage.



* HumanAliens: Sargusians are nearly identical to humans. Their planet is commented on as being very much like Earth. Their culture, clothing, and technology are pretty much at the level of 21st century Earth. Isaac even acknowledges the unusual similarity, calling it an extreme example of parallel evolution. The only major difference are names, as seen when a public servant finds the name "John" exotic. This is, of course, an homage to ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', where such worlds were common.

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* HumanAliens: Sargusians Sarguns are nearly identical to humans. Their planet is commented on as being very much like Earth. Their culture, clothing, and technology are pretty much at the level of 21st century Earth. Isaac even acknowledges the unusual similarity, calling it an extreme example of parallel evolution. The only major difference are names, as seen when a public servant finds the name "John" exotic. This is, of course, an homage to ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', where such worlds were common.


** Alara nearly ends up subjected to the Sargusian jusice system herself because her hat happens to be that of a culture to which she doesn't belong, which angers a native of said culture and attracts the attention of the public. Fortunately, Claire manages to defuse the situation.
* DramaticIrony: The viewer knows the ''Orville'' is on a doomed quest, but the crew doesn't figure this out until about halfway through the episode.
* EasyEvangelism: Lysella is convinced rather easily about the problems a civilization ruled by total democracy has. While the crew of the ''Orville'' do talk about such issues a little they don't really go into how they do things. In the end it seems like she is won over more by their jaw dropping technology and being quite nice than anything deeper.

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** Alara nearly ends up subjected to the Sargusian jusice justice system herself because her hat happens to be that of a culture to which she doesn't belong, which angers a native of said culture and attracts the attention of the public. Fortunately, Claire manages to defuse the situation.
* DramaticIrony: The viewer knows (or at least suspects) the ''Orville'' is on a doomed quest, but the crew doesn't figure this out until about halfway through the episode.
* EasyEvangelism: Lysella is convinced rather easily about the problems a civilization ruled by total democracy has. While the crew of the ''Orville'' do talk about such issues a little little, they don't really go into how they do things. In the end it seems like she is won over more by their jaw dropping technology and being quite nice than anything deeper.



** [=LaMarr's=] publicist's job is to make [=LaMarr=] appear as sympathetic, apologetic, and remorseful as possible. He never bothers to explain to [=LaMarr=] who is depicted in the statue that [=LaMarr=] disrespected, nor what made her famous. Of course, [=LaMarr=] himself never asks, either.

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** [=LaMarr's=] publicist's job is to make [=LaMarr=] appear as sympathetic, apologetic, and remorseful as possible. He never bothers to explain to [=LaMarr=] who is depicted in the statue that [=LaMarr=] disrespected, nor what made her famous. Of course, [=LaMarr=] himself never asks, either. (They might have covered it after the first show, but by that point the damage was already done.)



** Said talk show is of the format similar to "The View" or "The Talk".

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** Said talk show is of the a format similar to "The View" or "The Talk".


* TheOneGuy: [=LaMarr=] is the only guy who accompanies Grayson, Alara and Claire on Sargus 4.

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* TheOneGuy: [=LaMarr=] is the only guy male crew member who accompanies Grayson, Alara and Claire on Sargus 4.


* AlienNonInterferenceClause: The Union doesn't engage with civilizations that lack interstellar travel capability. Mercer has to use LoopholeAbuse to help [=LaMarr=].


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* AlienNonInterferenceClause: The Union doesn't engage with civilizations that lack interstellar travel capability. Mercer has to use LoopholeAbuse to help [=LaMarr=].


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* TheOneGuy: [=LaMarr=] is the only guy who accompanies Grayson, Alara and Claire on Sargus 4.


* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: One of the talk show hosts is clearly made up to look like Creator/EllenDeGeneres.

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of the talk show hosts is clearly made up to look like Creator/EllenDeGeneres.Creator/EllenDeGeneres.
**Said talk show is of the format similar to "The View" or "The Talk".

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* EasyEvangelism: Lysella is convinced rather easily about the problems a civilization ruled by total democracy has. While the crew of the ''Orville'' do talk about such issues a little they don't really go into how they do things. In the end it seems like she is won over more by their jaw dropping technology and being quite nice than anything deeper.

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