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* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop talking even when Fortress is threatening to kill him, most likely to test the likelihood of Max using deadly force.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop talking even when Fortress is threatening to kill him, most likely to test the likelihood of Max using deadly force. That said, see ShownTheirWork.


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* ShownTheirWork: For all his jerkass behavior, Whirl actually uses a number of real hostage-situation negotiation techniques. He acts as the voice for Fort Max's thoughts, gradually getting Fort Max to identify with him, and tries to steer his thoughts so that he realizes Fort Max/Whirl is similar to Overlord/Fort Max.
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* NotSoDifferent: Whirl's opinion of himself and Fortress Maximus. In some twisted ways, he's right.

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* ChekhovsGun: The golden discs Rewind acquired, we find out what they are here, but not why he bought them in the first place.

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** During Fortress' flashback to his torture, Overlord mentions stories of something being buried under Aequitas. While this might seem like a throwaway line, or Overlord getting some facts mixed up, it will ''eventually'' turn up again... several years later.



-->'''Whirl:''' "'''Seriously,''' all of this is a bit—it's a bit '''pathetic''' though, isn't it? Even for an epic, epic '''failure''' like you. I mean, not only do you practically '''beg''' the Decepticons to take G-9 off your hands, but you curl up into a ball the moment Overlor—"

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-->'''Whirl:''' "'''Seriously,''' '''Seriously,''' all of this is a bit—it's a bit '''pathetic''' though, isn't it? Even for an epic, epic '''failure''' like you. I mean, not only do you practically '''beg''' the Decepticons to take G-9 off your hands, but you curl up into a ball the moment Overlor—"Overlor—



-->'''Whirl:''' "Wow. If I'd known '''that''' was the best you've got, I'd have said something '''genuinely''' offensive."

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-->'''Whirl:''' "Wow.Wow. If I'd known '''that''' was the best you've got, I'd have said something '''genuinely''' offensive."
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In the med bay, Ratchet and First Aid note the casualties of Fortress' shooting spree, with Ratchet noting he only shot five people, and only those five, not the people they were with. As Ratchet notes, his targets weren't random. They were chosen, specifically because their colours match that of Overlord.

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In the med bay, Ratchet and First Aid note the casualties of Fortress' shooting spree, with Ratchet noting he only shot five people, and only those five, not the people they were with. As Ratchet notes, his targets weren't random. They were chosen, specifically because their blue colours match that of Overlord.
Overlord (and Whirl is also blue).
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* {{Trigger}}: Fort Max is set off by the phrase "duty of care", which reminds him of how the Autobots did absolutely nothing to get him away from Overlord, and then by being directly reminded of Overlord. The first one sets off the rampage, the second one makes him freeze up enough for Whirl to stick a pipe through him.

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* {{Trigger}}: TraumaButton: Fort Max is set off by the phrase "duty of care", which reminds him of how the Autobots did absolutely nothing to get him away from Overlord, and then by being directly reminded of Overlord. The first one sets off the rampage, the second one makes him freeze up enough for Whirl to stick a pipe through him.
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Meanwhile, as Swerve's, everyone is relaxing, getting gently drunk, despite Ultra Magnus arresting Swerve for serving drinks without a license. Trailbreaker, feeling Fortress Maximus is overhyped, starts complaining about him, as the guy walks in. Despite the very drunk Trailbreaker's rambling, he doesn't respond. Instead, he shoots Pipes. He then goes on a rampage around the ship, shooting several other 'bots, and then holing himself up in Rung's office. Rodimus is for once reluctant to act, since he doesn't want to risk Rung's life a second time. Things turn worse when Blaster manages to patch into the camera in Rung's room, and they find he was talking to someone before Fort Max came in. And because things weren't bad enough, it's ''Whirl''.

Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody in typical Whirl-style - by putting his own life in danger. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9, where he was being tortured by Overlord. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.

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Meanwhile, as Swerve's, everyone is relaxing, getting gently drunk, despite Ultra Magnus arresting Swerve for serving drinks without a license. Trailbreaker, feeling Fortress Maximus is overhyped, starts complaining about him, as the guy walks in. Despite the very drunk Trailbreaker's rambling, he doesn't respond. Instead, he shoots Pipes. He then goes on a rampage around the ship, shooting several other 'bots, and then holing himself up in Rung's office. Rodimus is for once reluctant to act, since he doesn't want to risk Rung's life a second time. Things turn worse when Blaster manages to patch into the camera in Rung's room, and they find he was talking to someone before a patient when Fort Max came in. And because things weren't bad enough, it's ''Whirl''.

Using his typical display of [[BlatantLies charm and people skills, skills,]] Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody in typical Whirl-style - by putting his own life in danger. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9, where he was being relentlessly tortured by Overlord. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.



Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl is bored of arguing with and insulting Max. Max, however, is curious as to why Whirl behaves this way. Whirl doesn't feel like going into the unpleasant details, so Max threatens Rung instead. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents, and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation on board the Lost Light. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the 'nutjob' everyone knows, he defied the Functionists and left his old job to start a business as a watchmaker. Unfortunately he was so successful that when he refused to pay for protection, his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused to follow questionable orders, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As Max grows increasingly interested, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl is getting bored of arguing with and insulting Max. Max, however, is finally curious as to why Whirl behaves is such a mess. For all his talk, this way. is one thing Whirl doesn't feel like going into the unpleasant details, want to discuss, so Max threatens Rung instead. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents, and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation on board the Lost Light. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the 'nutjob' everyone knows, he defied the Functionists and left his old job to start a business as a watchmaker. Unfortunately he was so successful that when he refused to pay for protection, his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused to follow questionable orders, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As Max grows increasingly interested, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.



Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to hell when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron). His superior Orion Pax made such a fuss that the incident couldn't be ignored, and Whirl was sent to prison. Years later he was recruited to the Autobots, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl again. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl gleefully confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.

Ratchet informs Rodimus about his findings, just as Rung works it out himself, that Fortress is angry because of what Overlord did to him. Outside, Rewind and Swerve had reached the window to Rung's office. As it turns out, Rodimus wants them to shoot Fortress. With Rewind unable to take the shot, the rivet gun is given to Swerve. Rewind, meanwhile, uses his projector to show security footage from G-9. It's enough to send Maximus into a breakdown, with Rung assuring him it's over. Unfortunately, Rodimus is unwilling to take the chance, and orders Swerve to fire. The shot misses Fortress Maximus, and hits Rung, who's head explodes. Whirl uses this as a distraction to knock Fortress out.

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Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to hell when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron). His superior Orion Pax made such a fuss that the incident couldn't be ignored, and but Whirl was sent to prison.the one who ended up taking the heat. Years later he was recruited to the Autobots, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress Max asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to mercy kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw had him kicked out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes now Whirl's finished, Max realises that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl again. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but even as Whirl gleefully confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.

Ratchet informs Rodimus about his findings, just as Rung works it out himself, that Fortress is angry because of what Overlord did to him.Max's trauma stems from his torture at Overlord's hands. Outside, Rewind and Swerve had reached the window to Rung's office. As it turns out, Rodimus wants them to shoot Fortress.Max. With Rewind unable to take the shot, the rivet gun is given to Swerve. Rewind, meanwhile, uses his projector to show security footage from G-9. It's enough to send Maximus into a breakdown, with Rung assuring him it's over. Unfortunately, Rodimus is unwilling to take the chance, and orders Swerve to fire. The shot misses Fortress Maximus, Maximus and hits Rung, who's head explodes. headshots Rung instead. Whirl uses this as a distraction to knock Fortress Max out.



* DidNotThinkThisThrough: As both rung and Whirl point out, ''ordering'' Rodimus to do anything will never work.

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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: As both rung Rung and Whirl point out, ''ordering'' Rodimus to do anything will never work.



* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop even when Fortress is threatening to kill him, most likely to test the likelihood of Max using deadly force.
-->'''Whirl:''' "'''Seriously,''' all of this is a bit—it's a bit '''pathetic''' though, isn't it? Even for an epic, epic '''failure''' like you. I mean, not only do you practically '''beg''' the Decepticons to take G9 off your hands, but you curl up into a ball the moment Overlor—"

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* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop talking even when Fortress is threatening to kill him, most likely to test the likelihood of Max using deadly force.
-->'''Whirl:''' "'''Seriously,''' all of this is a bit—it's a bit '''pathetic''' though, isn't it? Even for an epic, epic '''failure''' like you. I mean, not only do you practically '''beg''' the Decepticons to take G9 G-9 off your hands, but you curl up into a ball the moment Overlor—"

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* OhCrap: The reaction on the bridge when they realise that the ''other'' person in the room with Rung and Max is... ''Whirl.''



* StartOfDarkness: Whirl describes his. He managed to do the impossible on Functionist Cybertron: he followed his dreams and became a clockmaker, instead of a job that had anything to do with turning into a helicopter. He was very good at it, too. Then he attracted enough of the wrong kinds of attention, and the Senate replaced his hands with crab-pincer-type gripping implements, which left him with very limited fine motor ability and a lot of resentment towards any form of authority.

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* StartOfDarkness: Whirl describes his.explains why he's such a mess. He managed to do the impossible on Functionist Cybertron: he followed his dreams and became a clockmaker, instead of a job that had anything to do with turning into a helicopter. He was very good at it, too. Then he attracted enough of the wrong kinds of attention, and the Senate replaced his hands with crab-pincer-type gripping implements, which left him with very limited fine motor ability and a lot of resentment towards any form of authority.
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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: As Rung points out, ''ordering'' Rodimus to do anything will never work.
* DirtyCoward: Brainstorm claims he tried to stop Fortress Maximus. The panel in question shows him cowering in a corner.
* EpicFail: Fortress Maximus is a big 'bot, and yet Swerve completely fails to hit him, while blowing up Rung's entire head.

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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: As Rung points both rung and Whirl point out, ''ordering'' Rodimus to do anything will never work.
* DirtyCoward: Brainstorm claims he tried to stop Fortress Maximus. The panel in question shows him cowering terrified in a corner.
* EpicFail: Fortress Maximus is a big 'bot, and yet Swerve completely fails to hit him, while blowing up Rung's entire head. Well, Swerve did try to warn Rodimus...
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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl has apparently decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Now curious about Whirl's life-endangering behaviour, Max demands to know his problems. Whirl doesn't see why he should give any details, and Max tries to get the information from Rung instead. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents first and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the 'nutjob' everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl has apparently decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Now bored of arguing with and insulting Max. Max, however, is curious about Whirl's life-endangering behaviour, Max demands as to know his problems. why Whirl behaves this way. Whirl doesn't see why he should give any feel like going into the unpleasant details, and so Max tries to get the information from threatens Rung instead. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents first relents, and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation.probation on board the Lost Light. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the 'nutjob' everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem job to start a business as a watchmaker. Unfortunately he was so successful that when he ran into trouble, and refused to pay for protection, his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, refused to follow questionable orders, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Max grows increasingly interested, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.



Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to hell when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, and got him put in prison. Years later he was recruited to the Autobots, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl again. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl further confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.

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Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to hell when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, (Megatron). His superior Orion Pax, Pax made such a fuss that the incident couldn't be ignored, and got him put in Whirl was sent to prison. Years later he was recruited to the Autobots, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl again. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl further gleefully confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.
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-->(Maximus pistol-whips Whirl)

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-->(Maximus --> ''(Maximus pistol-whips Whirl)Whirl)''

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-->(Fortress Maximus pistol-whips Whirl.)

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* DirtyCoward: Brainstorm claims he tried to stop Fortress Maximus. The panel shows him cowering instead.

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* DirtyCoward: Brainstorm claims he tried to stop Fortress Maximus. The panel in question shows him cowering instead.in a corner.



* HostageSituation: Fort Max takes Rung hostage in an attempt to get Rodimus to turn the ship around and go to Garrus-9.

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* HostageSituation: Fort Max takes Rung and Whirl hostage in an attempt to get Rodimus to turn the ship around and go to Garrus-9.



* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Fortress Maximus, sort of. He doesn't actually attack anyone involved in his torture, but he does shoot a lot of bots who looked like Overlord.

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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Fortress Maximus, sort of. He doesn't actually attack anyone involved in his torture, but he does shoot Maximus goes on a lot of bots psychotic rampage around the ship, shooting anybody who looked like reminds him of Overlord.



* StartOfDarkness: Whirl describes his. He managed to do the impossible on Functionist Cybertron: he followed his dreams and became a clockmaker, instead of a job that had anything to do with turning into a helicopter. He was very good at it, even. Then he attracted enough of the wrong kinds of attention, and the Senate replaced his hands with crab-pincer-type gripping implements, which left him with very limited fine motor ability and a lot of resentment towards any form of authority.

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* StartOfDarkness: Whirl describes his. He managed to do the impossible on Functionist Cybertron: he followed his dreams and became a clockmaker, instead of a job that had anything to do with turning into a helicopter. He was very good at it, even.too. Then he attracted enough of the wrong kinds of attention, and the Senate replaced his hands with crab-pincer-type gripping implements, which left him with very limited fine motor ability and a lot of resentment towards any form of authority.
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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl has apparently decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Now curious about Whirl's life-endangering behaviour, Max demands to know his problems. When Whirl refuses to tell Max anything, Max threatens Rung. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl has apparently decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Now curious about Whirl's life-endangering behaviour, Max demands to know his problems. When Whirl refuses to tell doesn't see why he should give any details, and Max anything, Max threatens Rung. tries to get the information from Rung instead. Rung tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents first and explains that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob 'nutjob' everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.
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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl, apparently having decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

Outside, Swerve and Rewind are on punishment duty, replacing all the rivets on the ship, though Swerve takes it in stride, knowing Rodimus will likely ignore Magnus and let him keep the bar. He then asks Rewind why he's on punishment duty. Rewind explains that Red Alert found some data disks of his, the ones he bought from Swindle back on Cybertron, and reported Rewind to Rodimus for what he found. Swerve immediately starts asking what they were. As Rewind explains, they were snuff movies, though he refuses to explain why exactly he was watching them. Any further conversation is halted by Rodimus calling in. He's got a job he needs the two to do.

Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to crap when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, who years later recruited him to the Autobots deliberately, and from there he bounced around a while, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl further confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.

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Three hours later in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl, has apparently having decided that Max is unlikely to kill anybody. Realising that threatening Now curious about Whirl's life-endangering behaviour, Max demands to know his problems. When Whirl isn't going refuses to fly, tell Max anything, Max threatens Rung. Rung instead. It works, and tries to explain that he has a duty of care, but Whirl relents and explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

Outside, Swerve and Rewind are on punishment duty, replacing all the rivets on the ship, though Swerve takes it in his stride, knowing Rodimus will likely ignore Magnus and let him keep the bar. He then asks Rewind why he's on punishment duty. Rewind explains that Red Alert found some data disks of his, the ones he bought from Swindle back on Cybertron, and reported Rewind to Rodimus for what he found. Swerve immediately starts asking what they were. As Rewind explains, they were snuff movies, though he refuses to explain why exactly he was watching them. Any further conversation is halted by Rodimus calling in. He's got a job he needs the two to do.

Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to crap hell when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, who years and got him put in prison. Years later he was recruited him to the Autobots deliberately, and from there he bounced around a while, Autobots, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl.Whirl again. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl further confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.
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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody in typical Whirl-style - by putting his own life in danger. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.

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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody in typical Whirl-style - by putting his own life in danger. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9.Garrus-9, where he was being tortured by Overlord. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.
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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.

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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to find out whether the already violent Max really is going to kill somebody.somebody in typical Whirl-style - by putting his own life in danger. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.



Three hours on in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl, apparently having decided that Max is unlikely to kill him. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular session with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offense to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As this happens, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

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Three hours on later in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl, apparently having decided that Max is unlikely to kill him.anybody. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular session sessions with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offense offence to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As this happens, he keeps Max's attention, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.
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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to push the already violent Max past his breaking point. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.

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Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to push find out whether the already violent Max past his breaking point.really is going to kill somebody. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.
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Back in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular session with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offense to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As this happens, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.

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Back Three hours on in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl.Whirl, apparently having decided that Max is unlikely to kill him. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular session with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offense to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As this happens, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.



Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to crap when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, who years later recruited him to the Autobots deliberately, and from there he bounced around a while, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl.

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Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to crap when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, who years later recruited him to the Autobots deliberately, and from there he bounced around a while, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl.
Whirl. In order to delay him, Rung pleads for Max to remain calm, but Whirl further confuses the situation by encouraging him to pull the trigger.



* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop even when Fortress is threatening to kill him.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop even when Fortress is threatening to kill him.him, most likely to test the likelihood of Max using deadly force.



* NotSoDifferent: Whirl's opinion of himself and Fortress Maximus.

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* NotSoDifferent: Whirl's opinion of himself and Fortress Maximus. In some twisted ways, he's right.

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-->'''Whirl:''' I mean, you only curled up the second Overlord- (''is hit in the face'') Wow. If I'd known that would upset you, I'd have said something ''truly'' offensive.

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-->'''Whirl:''' "'''Seriously,''' all of this is a bit—it's a bit '''pathetic''' though, isn't it? Even for an epic, epic '''failure''' like you. I mean, you not only curled up do you practically '''beg''' the second Overlord- (''is hit in Decepticons to take G9 off your hands, but you curl up into a ball the face'') Wow. moment Overlor—"
-->(Fortress Maximus pistol-whips Whirl.)
-->'''Whirl:''' "Wow.
If I'd known that would upset you, '''that''' was the best you've got, I'd have said something ''truly'' '''genuinely''' offensive."

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** One of Fortress' flashbacks shows Overlord cutting the guys' limbs off. When Fortress was found by the Wreckers in ''Last Stand'', he had been missing all of them. We mercifully don't see the deed itself.



* CrypticBackgroundReference: Simanzi gets mentioned by a plastered Trailbreaker.



* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Fortress Maximus, sort of. He doesn't actually attack anyone involved in his torture, but he does kill a lot of bots who looked like Overlord.

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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Fortress Maximus, sort of. He doesn't actually attack anyone involved in his torture, but he does kill shoot a lot of bots who looked like Overlord.
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Outside, Swerve and Rewind are on punishment duty, replacing all the rivets on the ship, though Swerve takes it in stride, knowing Rodimus will likely ignore Magnus and let him keep the bar. He then asks Rewind why he's on punishment duty. Rewind explains that Red Alert found some data disks of his, the ones he bought from Swindle back on Cybertron, and reported Rewind to Rodimus for what he found. Swerve immediately starts asking what they were. As Rewind explains, they were snuff movies, though he refuses to explain why exactly he was watching them. Any further conversation is halted by Rodimus calling in. He's got a job he needs the two to do.

Whirl, meanwhile, continues with his story, explaining how he wound up in law enforcement, and how it all went to crap when he was told to kill a prisoner (Megatron), something that got him in trouble with his boss, Orion Pax, who years later recruited him to the Autobots deliberately, and from there he bounced around a while, until joining the Wreckers. Rung exclaims surprise, given he never said any of this before. Whirl just retorts that Rung never threatened to shoot a friend of his. Fortress asks why Whirl was kicked out of the Wreckers. As it turns out, it was because he'd tried to kill the comatose Springer, as a mercy kill, until Roadbuster caught him and threw him out. And just as Whirl finishes, Fortress notes that the ship hasn't changed course at all, and starts pointing his gun at Whirl.

Ratchet informs Rodimus about his findings, just as Rung works it out himself, that Fortress is angry because of what Overlord did to him. Outside, Rewind and Swerve had reached the window to Rung's office. As it turns out, Rodimus wants them to shoot Fortress. With Rewind unable to take the shot, the rivet gun is given to Swerve. Rewind, meanwhile, uses his projector to show security footage from G-9. It's enough to send Maximus into a breakdown, with Rung assuring him it's over. Unfortunately, Rodimus is unwilling to take the chance, and orders Swerve to fire. The shot misses Fortress Maximus, and hits Rung, who's head explodes. Whirl uses this as a distraction to knock Fortress out.

Later on, Drift and Rodimus talk, with Drift expressing his concerns about the security chief, and how he spends far too much time acting on his paranoia rather than doing his job. As he says this, Red Alert steals a drill from Ore's corpse, travels to the Sparkeater's prison, and drills. He finds a room, and inside is Overlord, muttering "kill me" over, and over and over.


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* CannotKeepASecret: Swerve, in spades.
* ChekhovsGun: The golden discs Rewind acquired, we find out what they are here, but not why he bought them in the first place.
* ChekhovsGunman: Ore's corpse.


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* ICannotSelfTerminate: Overlord is bound and has his weapons removed, which makes killing himself impossible.
* InVinoVeritas: Trailbreaker gets drunk, and starts making disparaging remarks about Fortress Maximus, then tries to cover himself when the guy comes in.


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* NotSoDifferent: Whirl's opinion of himself and Fortress Maximus.


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* SpottingTheThread: Ratchet figures out what's Fortress's deal, as does Rung a few minutes later.
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The newly revived Fortress Maximus is being interviewed by Rung. Despite the psychologist's best efforts, Max refuses to talk about the horrific torture Overlord put him through. Rung is reluctantly forced to end the session.

Meanwhile, as Swerve's, everyone is relaxing, getting gently drunk, despite Ultra Magnus arresting Swerve for serving drinks without a license. Trailbreaker, feeling Fortress Maximus is overhyped, starts complaining about him, as the guy walks in. Despite the very drunk Trailbreaker's rambling, he doesn't respond. Instead, he shoots Pipes. He then goes on a rampage around the ship, shooting several other 'bots, and then holing himself up in Rung's office. Rodimus is for once reluctant to act, since he doesn't want to risk Rung's life a second time. Things turn worse when Blaster manages to patch into the camera in Rung's room, and they find he was talking to someone before Fort Max came in. And because things weren't bad enough, it's ''Whirl''.

Using his typical display of charm and people skills, Whirl tries to push the already violent Max past his breaking point. Rung notices the Autobots watching him, and turns on the microphone in his thumb, before trying to determine what Max's motivation is. As it turns out, he's pissed off at the fact it took Prowl three whole years to send Wreckers to Garrus-9. Knowing Rodimus is listening, he demands that he turn the ship around and go back to Cybertron. As Whirl and Rung point out, by telling him what to do, he's made absolutely sure Rodimus isn't going to (though calling him "Hot Rod" doesn't help). Then, Fortress notices Rung's microphone, and rips it out.

In the med bay, Ratchet and First Aid note the casualties of Fortress' shooting spree, with Ratchet noting he only shot five people, and only those five, not the people they were with. As Ratchet notes, his targets weren't random. They were chosen, specifically because their colours match that of Overlord.

Back in Rung's office, Whirl continues being Whirl. Realising that threatening Whirl isn't going to fly, Max threatens Rung instead. It works, and Whirl explains that he was kicked out of the Wreckers, and that regular session with Rung are part of his probation. He then adds that he and Fortress aren't so different, something Max takes offense to. Whirl angrily retorts that before he was the nutjob everyone knows, he was a watchmaker on pre-war Cybertron, having defied the Functionists and left his old job. The problem was that he ran into trouble, and his business was destroyed by thugs. After that he started hanging out with a bad crowd, something that got him noticed by even worse people, and when he refused, he was ''persuaded'' by Empurata. As this happens, Rung picks up one of his models, and starts doing something with it. He's sending a message to Rodimus.


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* AllForNothing: PlayedForLaughs. Ultra Magnus makes Tailgate study the relevance of a semi-colon in a clause of the Autobot Code for seven hours. Turns out it wasn't relevant at all.
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* AnArmAndALeg: The flashback shows Overlord having already removed some of Fortress' limbs with a chainsaw, just because.



* ButtMonkey: Pipes gets a little bit shot, being the first victim of Maximus' rampage.
* CallBack:
** Chromedome identifies who's transforming just by sound, something Swerve claimed he could do back in issue #2.
** Back in the last issue, Red Alert mentioned Rewind had been looking for something in his quarters that he'd never find. And in this issue, it's mentioned the paranoid head of security found gory recordings in Rewind's quarters, hence why he's on rivet duty.
* ChildSoldiers: Whirl casually mentions Fort Max is a "warborn". War is all the guy's known, and he's not the only one. And yet no-one considers this might have something to do with his breakdown.
* ColdBloodedTorture: At least part of what Overlord subjected Fort Max to, and not for any specific reason. He just wanted to.
* DidNotThinkThisThrough: As Rung points out, ''ordering'' Rodimus to do anything will never work.
* DirtyCoward: Brainstorm claims he tried to stop Fortress Maximus. The panel shows him cowering instead.
* EpicFail: Fortress Maximus is a big 'bot, and yet Swerve completely fails to hit him, while blowing up Rung's entire head.



* {{Jerkass}}: Whirl, who refuses to stop even when Fortress is threatening to kill him.
-->'''Whirl:''' I mean, you only curled up the second Overlord- (''is hit in the face'') Wow. If I'd known that would upset you, I'd have said something ''truly'' offensive.
* NoIndoorVoice: Siren. And yet someone let him be the ship's announcer.



* {{Trigger}}: Fort Max is set off by the phrase "duty of care", which reminds him of how the Autobots did absolutely nothing to get him away from Overlord, and then by being directly reminded of Overlord. The first one sets off the rampage, the second one makes him freeze up enough for Whirl to stick a pipe through him.

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* {{Trigger}}: Fort Max is set off by the phrase "duty of care", which reminds him of how the Autobots did absolutely nothing to get him away from Overlord, and then by being directly reminded of Overlord. The first one sets off the rampage, the second one makes him freeze up enough for Whirl to stick a pipe through him.him.
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''It's okay. We're done here. No more for today.''
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'''A hostage situation grips the Lost Light as Fortress Maximus snaps, and not everyone escapes the experience unscathed...'''

'''Issue''': 6

'''Released''': June 27, 2012

!!This issue contains examples of:
* [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther Aw, Look! He Really Does Care About People]]: After Whirl's monologue about his StartOfDarkness, Rung comments that Whirl was never this open during Rung's sessions with him. Whirl's response?
-->'''Whirl''': Well '''you''' never threatened to shoot a '''friend of mine'''!
* BlatantLies: Most of what Fortress Maximus says in his sessions with Rung.
* BoomHeadshot: On the ''hostage''.
* HostageSituation: Fort Max takes Rung hostage in an attempt to get Rodimus to turn the ship around and go to Garrus-9.
* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Fortress Maximus's initial method of taking out Whirl, and Whirl's eventual method of taking down Fort Max. Even done using the same pipe.
* ProperlyParanoid: Red Alert, as it turns out. The voice he's been hearing was real and it's Overlord.
* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Fortress Maximus, sort of. He doesn't actually attack anyone involved in his torture, but he does kill a lot of bots who looked like Overlord.
* ShootTheHostage: Accidentally - they were trying for ShootTheHostageTaker, but Swerve isn't that good a shot.
* SnuffFilm: Rewind's been smuggling them onboard. He's on rivet duty because Rodimus found out. (His aren't sexual, though, or at least that's not why he's watching them.)
* StartOfDarkness: Whirl describes his. He managed to do the impossible on Functionist Cybertron: he followed his dreams and became a clockmaker, instead of a job that had anything to do with turning into a helicopter. He was very good at it, even. Then he attracted enough of the wrong kinds of attention, and the Senate replaced his hands with crab-pincer-type gripping implements, which left him with very limited fine motor ability and a lot of resentment towards any form of authority.
* TheStinger: Revealed on the last page: that voice Red Alert was hearing underneath the ship? It's real. It's Overlord, who is supposed to be disassembled and sealed in a whiteout vacuum on Cybertron.
* {{Trigger}}: Fort Max is set off by the phrase "duty of care", which reminds him of how the Autobots did absolutely nothing to get him away from Overlord, and then by being directly reminded of Overlord. The first one sets off the rampage, the second one makes him freeze up enough for Whirl to stick a pipe through him.

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