Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Recap / BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E8Pangs

Go To



* KindaBusyHere: Angel rings Giles to warn that Hus will probably target Buffy. Giles, who's crouched behind a sofa with Buffy dodging arrows, says he already knows.


Added DiffLines:

* NowYouTellMe: Angel rings Giles to warn that Hus will probably target Buffy. Giles, who's [[KindaBusyHere crouched behind a sofa with Buffy dodging arrows]], says he already knows.

Added DiffLines:

* PlotArmor: Spike takes several arrows to the torso during the stand-off with the Chumash warriors all of which conveniently miss his heart.


* AnnoyingArrows: Buffy gets an arrow through her arm, and Spike gets turned into an arrow pin-cushion.

to:

* AnnoyingArrows: Buffy gets an arrow through her arm, and Spike gets turned into an arrow pin-cushion.pin-cushion (fortunately none of them hit his heart). Justified for Spike, since he's a vampire and wounds like that are non-fatal as long as they don't hit his heart. In the same episode there is an amusing crossbow error, as Buffy shoots a bolt at the Native American ghost outside the window, who just casually bends aside as the bolt sails '''veeery''' slowly out into the night.



* BaitAndSwitchComment: See RunningGag.



* BearsAreBadNews

to:

* BearsAreBadNewsBearsAreBadNews: An angry Native American spirit is locked in combat against Buffy, upon which he transforms into a large grizzly. [[Funny/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike promptly blames Buffy and starts freaking out.]]



* MagicalNativeAmerican vengeance spirit.

to:

* MagicalNativeAmerican MagicalNativeAmerican: Buffy faces a Native American vengeance spirit.spirit who can shapeshift, and summon ghostly Native American warriors. Arguably this is an {{aver|tedTrope}}sion / {{subver|tedTrope}}sion / {{deconstruction}}. Magic is hardly limited to Native Americans in the Buffyverse, and this trope is sort of examined--Willow feels sympathetic to the spirit since it's avenging legitimate wrongs, while everyone else points out that, you know, it's still a ''murderous vengeance spirit'' that kills people and [[{{Squick}} gave Xander magical syphilis]]. They wind up destroying it at the end.



* WhiteGuilt: The Scoobies, especially Willow, do a lot of hemming and hawwing about how to handle Hus. On the one hand, he's hurting more-or-less-innocent people. On the ''other'' hand, it ''is'' true that his people were horribly oppressed... It takes an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Spike to [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption goad them into decisive action]].

to:

* WhiteGuilt: The Scoobies, especially Willow, Scoobies do a lot of hemming and hawwing about how to handle Hus.a Native American spirit bent on vengeance against the white man. On the one hand, he's hurting more-or-less-innocent people. On the ''other'' OTHER hand, it ''is'' it's true that his people were horribly oppressed... oppressed.... It takes an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Spike to [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption goad them into decisive action]].action. Spike's speech itself deconstructs this concept, since he rather bluntly (and politically incorrectly) points out that the spirit simply ''doesn't care'' about their white guilt -- it's pissed off and wants them all dead, and even if it was willing to talk there isn't actually a lot the Scoobies could say to defend themselves or make themselves better. [[JerkassHasAPoint Essentially, he points out that while the Scoobies might have reason to feel guilty for what their ancestors did, their embracing of this trope is just self-indulgent hand-wringing that's preventing them from taking any meaningful action to solve the problem]].



* WorldOfSnark: See SarcasmMode.



* YouWouldntShootMe: When Spike says this in response to Harmony's brandished stake, she reminds him sharply, "You did it to ''me'', remember?" (in [[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E3TheHarshLightOfDay "The Harsh Light of Day"]])

to:

* YouWouldntShootMe: When Spike says this in response to Harmony's brandished stake, she reminds him sharply, "You did it to ''me'', remember?" (in [[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E3TheHarshLightOfDay "The Harsh Light of Day"]])Day"]])
----


[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/btvs_s4_ep08_pangs4.jpg]]

to:

[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/btvs_s4_ep08_pangs4.jpg]]
org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20190212_171440_video_player.jpg]]

Added DiffLines:

* HeKnowsTooMuch: Even though Spike has been [[RestrainingBolt chipped]] and can't actually hurt anyone, Professor Walsh still sends her men after him for this reason. It's why he turns to Buffy and the Scoobies for help.
-->'''Forrest''': It's neutered. The implant works great. He can't hurt a single living thing.\\
'''Riley''': As long as he knows about the Initiative, he's a threat.


''[As Buffy was not told this, she glares down the table at a shameful Willow, an embarrassed Xander and Giles, and Spike trying not to laugh.]''\\

to:

''[As Buffy was not told this, she glares down the table at a shameful shame-faced Willow, an embarrassed Xander and Giles, and Spike trying not to laugh.]''\\



--->'''Buffy:''' Pretty darn scary... [[BaitAndSwitchComment It more like a riot than a Ralph's]]. I thought I was going to have to use Slayer moves on this one woman who was completely hoarding the pumpkin pie filling.

to:

--->'''Buffy:''' Pretty darn scary... [[BaitAndSwitchComment It was more like a riot than a Ralph's]]. I thought I was going to have to use Slayer moves on this one woman who was completely hoarding the pumpkin pie filling.

Added DiffLines:

* EntitledBastard: Spike genuinely expects Buffy and the Scoobies to help him out when he shows up, half-starved and crazy, on Giles' doorstep.
-->'''Spike''': What part of "help me" did you not understand?\\
'''Buffy''': The part where I help you.


Added DiffLines:

* OhCrap: Buffy and Spike's reaction when Hus turns into a bear.
-->'''Spike''': A bear?! You made a bear!\\
'''Buffy''': I didn't mean to!\\
'''Spike''': ''Undo it! Undo it!!''


* CriticalResearchFailure: Referring to the Chumash, Spike says "You [i.e. white Americans] exterminated his race." This is technically incorrect, as there are still several thousand Chumash living in and around the California area today.


* ArmorPiercingQuestion: The quote at the top of this page snaps Willow out of her WhiteGuilt.



* WhiteGuilt: The Scoobies do a lot of hemming and hawwing about how to handle Hus. On the one hand, he's hurting more-or-less-innocent people. On the ''other'' hand, it ''is'' true that his people were horribly oppressed... It takes an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Spike to [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption goad them into decisive action]].

to:

* WhiteGuilt: The Scoobies Scoobies, especially Willow, do a lot of hemming and hawwing about how to handle Hus. On the one hand, he's hurting more-or-less-innocent people. On the ''other'' hand, it ''is'' true that his people were horribly oppressed... It takes an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Spike to [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption goad them into decisive action]].


* AndThisIsFor: Xander [[WeNeedADistraction throwing things at Bear!Hus]]. "That's for giving me syphilis!"

to:

* AndThisIsFor: Xander [[WeNeedADistraction throwing things at Bear!Hus]].bear Hus]]. "That's for giving me syphilis!"

Added DiffLines:

-->'''Xander''': Maybe it's the syphilis talking, but some of that made sense.


Added DiffLines:

-->'''Spike''': Help me. ''[Buffy shoves him back into the sun and he starts sizzling]'' What part of "Help me" did you not understand?!
-->'''Buffy''': The part where I ''help'' you.


* TookALevelInJerkass: Willow gets pretty snotty and self-righteous towards the others about the Hus situation, more so than she normally is.

to:

* TookALevelInJerkass: Willow gets pretty snotty and self-righteous towards the others about the Hus situation, more so than she normally is. While her general attitude towards the more problematic aspects of Thanksgiving and the cultural issues facing Native Americans is not without its merits, it's when she displays a similar attitude while everyone's trying to stop Hus from wiping out people who, for all the sins of history, had nothing to do with Hus's grievance that it really begins to be a problem.


* JerkassHasAPoint: Spike scorns the idea of apologising to the ghosts, but he does have a point that feeling awkward and guilty is not going to help the situation in the slightest. Besides: "You ''exterminated his race''. What could you ''possibly'' say that would make him feel better? It's kill or be killed here; take your bloody pick." Giles gets miffed and points out that those are the exact same points he was making.

to:

* JerkassHasAPoint: Spike scorns the idea of apologising to the ghosts, and his general attitude to Native American relations can hardly be described as politically correct, but he does have a point that feeling awkward and guilty is not going to help the situation in the slightest. Besides: "You ''exterminated his race''. What could you ''possibly'' say that would make him feel better? It's kill or be killed here; take your bloody pick." Giles gets miffed and points out that those are the exact same points he was making.

Added DiffLines:

* TookALevelInJerkass: Willow gets pretty snotty and self-righteous towards the others about the Hus situation, more so than she normally is.


* PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad: Parodied.

to:

* PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad: PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad:
**
Parodied.



** Spike naturally has some [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech rather caustic things]] to say about everyone's WhiteGuilt-infused attempts to come up with a solution to the Hus problem.
-->'''Spike:''' Listen to you. How you gonna fight anyone with that attitude?



-->'''Spike:''' You won! Alright? You came in, and you killed them, and you took their land! It's what conquering nations do! It's what Caesar did, and he's not going around saying "I came, I conquered, I feel really bad about it!"

to:

-->'''Spike:''' You won! Alright? You came in, and you killed them, and you took their land! It's what conquering nations do! It's what Caesar did, and he's not going around saying "I came, I conquered, ''[whiny]'' I feel really bad about it!"it!" The history of the world isn't people making friends. You had better weapons and you massacred them. End of story.

Showing 15 edit(s) of 204

Top

How well does it match the trope?

Example of:

/

Media sources:

/

Report