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->Game consoles were so tainted in the eyes of the fickle public, that when Nintendo called their machine an '[[{{NES}} entertainment system]]' rather than a game console, it sold fucking gangbusters. For you see, the public are fickle but not particularly smart.

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->Game consoles were so tainted in the eyes of the fickle public, that when Nintendo called their machine an '[[{{NES}} '[[UsefulNotes/{{NES}} entertainment system]]' rather than a game console, it sold fucking gangbusters. For you see, the public are fickle but not particularly smart.


-->--'''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/ Luke McKinney]]''', ''{{Website/Cracked}}''

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-->--'''[[http://www.-->-- '''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/ Luke McKinney]]''', ''{{Website/Cracked}}''



-->--'''''Sadly, No!''''' [[http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/40017 rebuts]] Jonah Goldberg's "What War on Women?"

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-->--'''''Sadly, -->-- '''''Sadly, No!''''' [[http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/40017 rebuts]] Jonah Goldberg's "What War on Women?"



-->--'''Matt Binder'''

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-->--'''Matt -->-- '''Matt Binder'''


->It's tough to classify Alternative Right's ideology as either left or right, when really the ideas belong in some sort of padded room... they’re going to be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re going to be a little fancy about it.
-->--'''[[http://www.frumforum.com/the-new-racist-right/ David Frum]]'''

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->It's tough to classify Alternative Right's ideology as either left or right, when really the ideas belong in some sort of padded room... they’re going to be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re they're going to be a little fancy about it.
-->--'''[[http://www.-->-- '''[[http://www.frumforum.com/the-new-racist-right/ David Frum]]'''



-->--'''''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/02/02/val-kilmers-family-says-he-isnt-treating-a-tumor-in-his-throat-because-hes-a-hardcore-christian-scientist/ DListed]]''''', "Val Kilmer Isn’t Treating A Tumor In His Throat Because He’s A Hardcore Christian Scientist"

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-->--'''''[[http://dlisted.-->-- ''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/02/02/val-kilmers-family-says-he-isnt-treating-a-tumor-in-his-throat-because-hes-a-hardcore-christian-scientist/ DListed]]''''', DListed]]'', "Val Kilmer Isn’t Treating A Tumor In His Throat Because He’s A Hardcore Christian Scientist"



-->--'''Arthur Chu''', [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/occupying-the-throne-justine-tunney-neoreactionaries-and-the-new-1-percent.html "Occupying the Throne"]]

->>What person would proclaim themselves in favor of "force and fraud"? One of the little tricks Libertarians use in debate is to confuse the ordinary sense of these words with the meaning as "terms of art" in Libertarian axioms. They try to set up a situation where if you say you're against "force and fraud", then obviously you must agree with Libertarian ideology, since those are the definitions.
-->--'''[[http://sethf.com/essays/major/libstupid.php Seth Finkelstein]]''', "Libertarianism Make You Stupid"

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-->--'''Arthur -->-- '''Arthur Chu''', [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/occupying-the-throne-justine-tunney-neoreactionaries-and-the-new-1-percent.html "Occupying the Throne"]]

->>What ->What person would proclaim themselves in favor of "force and fraud"? One of the little tricks Libertarians use in debate is to confuse the ordinary sense of these words with the meaning as "terms of art" in Libertarian axioms. They try to set up a situation where if you say you're against "force and fraud", then obviously you must agree with Libertarian ideology, since those are the definitions.
-->--'''[[http://sethf.-->-- '''[[http://sethf.com/essays/major/libstupid.php Seth Finkelstein]]''', "Libertarianism Make You Stupid"


-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/ETTheExtraterrestrial'' for Atari

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-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' -->-- ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' on ''VideoGame/ETTheExtraterrestrial'' for Atari



-->--Chris Sims and Matt Wilson [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x2-x-men-united-2003-part-one/ on]] ''Film/X2XMenUnited''

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-->--Chris -->-- '''Chris Sims and Matt Wilson Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x2-x-men-united-2003-part-one/ on]] ''Film/X2XMenUnited''



->A guy who likes to [[GreedyJew blame everything on the Jews]]. He's a former Klansman who claims that he left his racist days behind long ago, but that's bullshit. He uses the word "Zionist" more than he uses the word 'the.' It's essentially his subtle way of saying Kike.
-->--'''''Website/UrbanDictionary''''' on David Duke

->It’s tough to classify Alternative Right’s ideology as either left or right, when really the ideas belong in some sort of padded room... they’re going to be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re going to be a little fancy about it.

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->A guy who likes to [[GreedyJew blame everything on the Jews]]. He's a former Klansman who claims that he left his racist days behind long ago, but that's bullshit. He uses the word "Zionist" more than he uses the word 'the.' "the". It's essentially his subtle way of saying Kike.
-->--'''''Website/UrbanDictionary''''' -->-- ''Website/UrbanDictionary'' on David Duke

->It’s ->It's tough to classify Alternative Right’s Right's ideology as either left or right, when really the ideas belong in some sort of padded room... they’re going to be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re going to be a little fancy about it.



->Even Christian Science is like ''“You know, we should really consider changing our name to something less confusing.”''

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->Even Christian Science is like ''“You ''"You know, we should really consider changing our name to something less confusing.”''"''



->They refer to billionaires as 'job creators' instead of '[[CorruptCorporateExecutive human hunters]].' They call it a [[EatTheRich War on Success]] if you apply basic economic theories to the financial crisis. And they accuse you of [[RedScare communism]] if you notice that any of this is retarded.
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-greatest-wars-ever-fought-by-fox-news/#ixzz31Fe6iebE "The 8 Greatest Wars Ever Fought by Fox News"]]

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->They refer to billionaires as 'job creators' "job creators" instead of '[[CorruptCorporateExecutive "[[CorruptCorporateExecutive human hunters]].' hunters]]". They call it a [[EatTheRich War on Success]] if you apply basic economic theories to the financial crisis. And they accuse you of [[RedScare communism]] if you notice that any of this is retarded.
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', -->-- '''Creator/{{Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-greatest-wars-ever-fought-by-fox-news/#ixzz31Fe6iebE "The 8 Greatest Wars Ever Fought by Fox News"]]



-->--'''''Wiki/RationalWiki'''''

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-->--'''''Wiki/RationalWiki'''''
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->Do not allow others to dictate the debate by injecting their own politically correct language like: [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness higher order thinking skills, site-based management or gender norming]]. It's a smokescreen. Insist on using plain English in your debates.
-->-- '''Tom [=DeWeese=]''', American education activist.


->The United States, to an unusual extent, is [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety a business-run society]], more so than others. The business classes are very class-conscious...We don’t use the term 'working class' here because it’s a taboo term. You’re supposed to say 'middle class,' because it helps diminish the understanding that there’s a class war going on.

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->The United States, to an unusual extent, is [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety a business-run society]], more so than others. The business classes are very class-conscious...We don’t don't use the term 'working class' "working class" here because it’s it's a taboo term. You’re You're supposed to say 'middle class,' "middle class," because it helps diminish the understanding that there’s there's a class war going on.


->You start out in 1954 by saying, 'Nigger, nigger, nigger.' By 1968 you can't say 'nigger' — [[NWordPrivileges that hurts you.]] Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights... You follow me? Because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Nigger, nigger.[='=]
-->--'''Lee Atwater''', strategist for UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan and UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush

->The [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem British National Party]] isn't about 'selling out' its ideas, which are your ideas too, but we are determined now to sell them, and that means basically to use the saleable words, as I say, freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticise them. Nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.
-->--'''Nick Griffin''', addressing an audience with David Duke by his side

->To be 'Orwellian' is to speak with absolute clarity, to be succinct, to explain what the event is, to talk about what triggers something happening… and to do so without any pejorative whatsoever!
-->--Spin doctor '''Frank Luntz''' evokes PoesLaw

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->Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', as the official language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.
-->-- '''Creator/UmbertoEco''', ''Ur-Fascism''

->You start out in 1954 by saying, 'Nigger, "Nigger, nigger, nigger.' " By 1968 you can't say 'nigger' "nigger" — [[NWordPrivileges that hurts you.]] Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights... You follow me? Because obviously sitting around saying, 'We "We want to cut this,' this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Nigger, "Nigger, nigger.[='=]
-->--'''Lee
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Atwater''', strategist for UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan and UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush

->The [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem British National Party]] isn't about 'selling out' "selling out" its ideas, which are your ideas too, but we are determined now to sell them, and that means basically to use the saleable words, as I say, freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticise them. Nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.
-->--'''Nick -->-- '''Nick Griffin''', addressing an audience with David Duke by his side

->To be 'Orwellian' "Orwellian" is to speak with absolute clarity, to be succinct, to explain what the event is, to talk about what triggers something happening… happening... and to do so without any pejorative whatsoever!
-->--Spin -->-- Spin doctor '''Frank Luntz''' evokes PoesLaw



-->--'''Toni Morrison'''

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-->--'''Toni -->-- '''Toni Morrison'''



-->--'''Tom [=DeWeese=]''', American education activist.

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-->--'''Tom -->-- '''Tom [=DeWeese=]''', American education activist.



-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''

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-->--'''Noam -->-- '''Noam Chomsky'''


->Every time a community springs up supposedly based only on mocking the 'excesses' of '{{Tumblr}} activists,' the moderates who are in it just to make fun of the feminists or anti-racists who are 'actually crazy' find themselves joined by 'redpillers' (i.e. [[HeManWomanHater men’s rights activists]]) and advocates of 'human biodiversity' (a coy euphemism for [[TheSocialDarwinist scientific racism and eugenics]]).

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->Every time a community springs up supposedly based only on mocking the 'excesses' of '{{Tumblr}} 'Website/{{Tumblr}} activists,' the moderates who are in it just to make fun of the feminists or anti-racists who are 'actually crazy' find themselves joined by 'redpillers' (i.e. [[HeManWomanHater men’s rights activists]]) and advocates of 'human biodiversity' (a coy euphemism for [[TheSocialDarwinist scientific racism and eugenics]]).


->Game consoles were so tainted in the eyes of the fickle public, that when Nintendo called their machine an '[[{{NES}} entertainment system]]' rather than a game console, it sold fucking gangbusters. For you see, the public are fickle but [[ViewersAreMorons not particularly smart]].

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->Game consoles were so tainted in the eyes of the fickle public, that when Nintendo called their machine an '[[{{NES}} entertainment system]]' rather than a game console, it sold fucking gangbusters. For you see, the public are fickle but [[ViewersAreMorons not particularly smart]].smart.


->He refuses to bow, he refuses to drink! Do you know that we assigned him one of our best pain technicians? ("Pain technicians". They used to be "torturers." [[PunchClockVillain Ever since they got organized]], they're pain technicians.)

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->He refuses to bow, he refuses to drink! Do you know that we assigned him one of our best ''best'' pain technicians? technicians?! ("Pain technicians". They used to be "torturers." [[PunchClockVillain Ever since they got organized]], they're pain technicians.)

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->He refuses to bow, he refuses to drink! Do you know that we assigned him one of our best pain technicians? ("Pain technicians". They used to be "torturers." [[PunchClockVillain Ever since they got organized]], they're pain technicians.)
-->--'''Cartagia''', ''Series/BabylonFive'' ("The Summoning")


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->You start out in [[TheFifties 1954]] by saying, 'Nigger, nigger, nigger.' By [[TheSixties 1968]] you can't say 'nigger' — [[NWordPrivileges that hurts you.]] Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, [[GoodOlBoy states' rights]]... You follow me? Because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Nigger, nigger.[='=]

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->You start out in [[TheFifties 1954]] 1954 by saying, 'Nigger, nigger, nigger.' By [[TheSixties 1968]] 1968 you can't say 'nigger' — [[NWordPrivileges that hurts you.]] Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, [[GoodOlBoy states' rights]]...rights... You follow me? Because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Nigger, nigger.[='=]


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->The [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem British National Party]] isn't about 'selling out' its ideas, which are your ideas too, but we are determined now to sell them, and that means basically to use the saleable words, as I say, freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticise them. Nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.
-->--'''Nick Griffin''', addressing an audience with David Duke by his side


->Language has always been important in politics, but language is incredibly important to the present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then [[IRejectYouReality there is no objective reality.]]

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->Language has always been important in politics, but language is incredibly important to the present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then [[IRejectYouReality [[IRejectYourReality there is no objective reality.]]


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->'''Matt''': Stryker’s in the Oval Office asking the president permission for a “special operation” and talking about “school reform.” In my experience, that is pitch-perfect bureaucratic talk.\\
'''Chris:''' That’s the level that Stryker’s at, [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide actually wanting a race war.]]
-->--Chris Sims and Matt Wilson [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x2-x-men-united-2003-part-one/ on]] ''Film/X2XMenUnited''

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->Language has always been important
in politics, but language is incredibly important to the Oval Office asking the president permission for a “special operation” and talking about “school reform.” In my experience, that present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then [[IRejectYouReality there is pitch-perfect bureaucratic talk.\\
'''Chris:''' That’s the level that Stryker’s at, [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide actually wanting a race war.
no objective reality.]]
-->--Chris Sims and Matt Wilson [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x2-x-men-united-2003-part-one/ on]] ''Film/X2XMenUnited''
-->-- '''Creator/StephenColbert''', [[http://nymag.com/news/politics/22322/ 2006 New York Magazine interview]]

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->'''Matt''': Stryker’s in the Oval Office asking the president permission for a “special operation” and talking about “school reform.” In my experience, that is pitch-perfect bureaucratic talk.\\
'''Chris:''' That’s the level that Stryker’s at, [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide actually wanting a race war.]]
-->--Chris Sims and Matt Wilson [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x2-x-men-united-2003-part-one/ on]] ''Film/X2XMenUnited''

->''"Imagine being on fire, running up to a firefighter screaming for help, and they hook their hands in their pockets and say, ''"Actually, before we start, I think you should say you're violently oxidizing. Not all oxidization is bad. I mean, some of my cells are performing oxidation right now, and I think it would be better if we ..."''
-->--'''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/ Luke McKinney]]''', ''{{Website/Cracked}}''



->Rich and powerful people don't get fired like the rest of us...This is executive speak for "We're firing you because you've become synonymous with perhaps the darkest chapter in the history of our company but you're well-liked so we're going to [[ReassignedToAntarctica give you a made-up job]] on the way out."
-->--'''[[http://defamer.gawker.com/hacked-sony-antihero-amy-pascal-basically-fired-1683989402 Sam Biddle]]''', "Hacked Sony Antihero Amy Pascal Basically Fired"

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->Rich and powerful people don't get fired like ->It’s tough to classify Alternative Right’s ideology as either left or right, when really the rest ideas belong in some sort of us...This is executive speak for "We're firing you because you've become synonymous with perhaps the darkest chapter in the history of our company but you're well-liked so we're padded room... they’re going to [[ReassignedToAntarctica give you be white nationalists, but, by God, they’re going to be a made-up job]] on the way out."
-->--'''[[http://defamer.gawker.com/hacked-sony-antihero-amy-pascal-basically-fired-1683989402 Sam Biddle]]''', "Hacked Sony Antihero Amy Pascal Basically Fired"
little fancy about it.
-->--'''[[http://www.frumforum.com/the-new-racist-right/ David Frum]]'''



->Sound science has two meanings. When used by scientists it means robustly supported science, confirmed by multiple peer-reviewed studies. When used in politics it means ideologically sound science, i.e. a euphemism for [[PropagandaMachine industry-funded pseudoscientific bullshit.]]

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->They refer to billionaires as 'job creators' instead of '[[CorruptCorporateExecutive human hunters]].' They call it a [[EatTheRich War on Success]] if you apply basic economic theories to the financial crisis. And they accuse you of [[RedScare communism]] if you notice that any of this is retarded.
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-greatest-wars-ever-fought-by-fox-news/#ixzz31Fe6iebE "The 8 Greatest Wars Ever Fought by Fox News"]]

->Sound science has two meanings. When used by scientists it means robustly supported science, confirmed by multiple peer-reviewed studies. When used in politics it means ideologically sound science, i.e. a euphemism for [[PropagandaMachine [[AllNaturalSnakeOil industry-funded pseudoscientific bullshit.]]



->Rand Paul is antivaccine. He simply cloaks his antivaccine views in the rhetoric of “health freedom,” as so many with antivaccine views who happen to lean libertarian do. The whole “freedom” thing is what I like to refer to as an antivaccine dog whistle.
-->--'''[[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/02/10/the-annals-of-im-not-anti-vaccine-part-13-nobody-wants-to-admit-to-being-antivaccine/ Orac]]''', "Nobody Wants to Admit to Being Anti-Vaccine"

->''"Imagine being on fire, running up to a firefighter screaming for help, and they hook their hands in their pockets and say, ''"Actually, before we start, I think you should say you're violently oxidizing. Not all oxidization is bad. I mean, some of my cells are performing oxidation right now, and I think it would be better if we ..."''
-->--'''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/ Luke McKinney]]''', ''{{Website/Cracked}}''

->The ERA, she told the Washington Star, 'is [[YouMayPanicNow a takeaway of women’s rights.]]' It will 'take away the right of the wife in an ongoing marriage, the wife in the home.' Schlafly was obviously using the language of rights in a way that was opposed to the aims of the feminist movement; she was using rights talk to [[HappinessInSlavery put women back into the home]], to keep them as wives and mothers.
-->--'''[[http://crookedtimber.org/2014/11/11/multicultural-intersectional-its-not-your-daddys-kkk/ John Quiggin]]''' on Phyllis Schlafly



->Libertarians are for "individual rights", and against "force" and "fraud" -- just as THEY define it. Their use of these words, however, when examined in detail, is not likely to accord with the common meanings of these terms. What person would proclaim themselves in favor of "force and fraud"? One of the little tricks Libertarians use in debate is to confuse the ordinary sense of these words with the meaning as "terms of art" in Libertarian axioms. They try to set up a situation where if you say you're against "force and fraud", then obviously you must agree with Libertarian ideology, since those are the definitions.

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->Libertarians are for "individual rights", and against "force" and "fraud" -- just as THEY define it. Their use of these words, however, when examined in detail, is not likely to accord with the common meanings of these terms. What ->>What person would proclaim themselves in favor of "force and fraud"? One of the little tricks Libertarians use in debate is to confuse the ordinary sense of these words with the meaning as "terms of art" in Libertarian axioms. They try to set up a situation where if you say you're against "force and fraud", then obviously you must agree with Libertarian ideology, since those are the definitions.



->They refer to billionaires as 'job creators' instead of '[[CorruptCorporateExecutive human hunters]].' They call it a [[EatTheRich War on Success]] if you apply basic economic theories to the financial crisis. And they accuse you of [[RedScare communism]] if you notice that any of this is retarded.
-->--'''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}''', [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-greatest-wars-ever-fought-by-fox-news/#ixzz31Fe6iebE "The 8 Greatest Wars Ever Fought by Fox News"]]



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->Language has always been important in politics, but language is incredibly important to the present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then there is no objective reality. The first show we did, a year ago, was our thesis statement: [[ItsAllAboutMe What you wish to be true is all that matters]], [[IRejectYourReality regardless of the facts]]. Of course, at the time, [[PoesLaw we thought we were being farcical]].
-->-- '''Creator/StephenColbert''', [[http://nymag.com/news/politics/22322/ 2006 New York Magazine interview]]

->The United States, to an unusual extent, is [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety a business-run society]], more so than others. The business classes are very class-conscious...We don’t use the term 'working class' here because it’s a taboo term. You’re supposed to say 'middle class,' because it helps diminish the understanding that there’s a class war going on.
-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''



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[[/folder]]->The United States, to an unusual extent, is [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety a business-run society]], more so than others. The business classes are very class-conscious...We don’t use the term 'working class' here because it’s a taboo term. You’re supposed to say 'middle class,' because it helps diminish the understanding that there’s a class war going on.
-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''


->Language has always been important in politics, but language is incredibly important to the present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then there is no objective reality. The first show we did, a year ago, was our thesis statement: [[ItsAllAboutMe What you wish to be true is all that matters]], regardless of the facts. Of course, at the time, [[HarsherInHindsight we thought we were being farcical]].

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->Language has always been important in politics, but language is incredibly important to the present political struggle. Because if you can establish an atmosphere in which information doesn't mean anything, then there is no objective reality. The first show we did, a year ago, was our thesis statement: [[ItsAllAboutMe What you wish to be true is all that matters]], [[IRejectYourReality regardless of the facts. facts]]. Of course, at the time, [[HarsherInHindsight [[PoesLaw we thought we were being farcical]].

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