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** Ichigo is normally LawfulGood who realizes that Queen Sangria is not going to allow peace despite being the legal ruler. After giving a royal beating, Ichigo [[LawfulStupid insists Sangria be tried by the courts rather than just ending her there]], leading to the climax where she is assassinated in the court.

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** Ichigo is normally LawfulGood [[invoked]]LawfulGood who realizes that Queen Sangria is not going to allow peace despite being the legal ruler. After giving a royal beating, Ichigo [[LawfulStupid insists Sangria be tried by the courts rather than just ending her there]], leading to the climax where she is assassinated in the court.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': [[TheHero Ichigo]] and [[{{Villain}} Sangria]] are both tactical geniuses. But when the climax came around, we lose sight of their ingenuity. In other words, they act like idiots. However, it's actually all part of each plan's to mark the other's downfall. But because their plans contrasted each other, nothing could move, so they had to fight head on anyway. But we soon find out that they don't simply act randomly but in fact ''forcing'' their initial plans to work.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': [[TheHero Ichigo]] and [[{{Villain}} Sangria]] Sangria are both tactical geniuses. But when the climax came around, we lose sight of their ingenuity. In other words, they act like idiots. However, it's actually all part of each plan's to mark the other's downfall. But because their plans contrasted each other, nothing could move, so they had to fight head on anyway. But we soon find out that they don't simply act randomly but in fact ''forcing'' their initial plans to work.
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'''Basic Trope''': TheHero or the {{Villain}} makes a [[IdiotBall stupid move]] late into the story just to help the climax along.

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'''Basic Trope''': TheHero or the {{Villain}} Villain makes a [[IdiotBall stupid move]] late into the story just to help the climax along.
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* '''Subverted''': Queen Sangria acts like an idiot hero to draw Ichigo into her perfect trap...

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Queen Sangria acts like an idiot hero to draw Ichigo into her perfect trap...



* '''Parodied''': Queen Sangria is hit on the head immediately before the grand finale, causing her to become much dumber than previous.

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Queen Sangria is hit on the head immediately before the grand finale, causing her to become much dumber than previous.previous.
** The LemonyNarrator actually declares the beginning of "act three" and explains how the hero needs to act stupid for a while, and [[InteractiveNarrator gives Hiro]] a physical IdiotBall.
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** Ichigo's friends stay to help her, and Ichigo decides to let them.
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'''Basic Trope''': TheHero or the {{Villain}} makes a [[IdiotBall stupid move]] just to help the climax along.

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'''Basic Trope''': TheHero or the {{Villain}} makes a [[IdiotBall stupid move]] late into the story just to help the climax along.
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Has nothing to do with familiarity with in-universe fiction.


** Ichigo has always been a GuileHero, GenreSavvy and fantastic at planning things beforehand and [[IndyPloy making stuff up on the fly]]. But when it's time for her to confront Queen Sangria, she turns into a complete IdiotHero making TooDumbToLive mistakes.

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** Ichigo has always been a GuileHero, GenreSavvy GuileHero and fantastic at planning things beforehand and [[IndyPloy making stuff up on the fly]]. But when it's time for her to confront Queen Sangria, she turns into a complete IdiotHero making TooDumbToLive mistakes.



* '''Inverted''': Ichigo and Queen Sangria have been an IdiotHero and ineffective villain, respectively, but both suddenly [[TookALevelInBadass take several levels in badass]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous genre savviness]] before their final confrontation.

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* '''Inverted''': Ichigo and Queen Sangria have been an IdiotHero and ineffective villain, respectively, but both suddenly [[TookALevelInBadass take several levels in badass]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous genre savviness]] before their final confrontation.



** The writers made Queen Sangria too DangerouslyGenreSavvy for the heroes to easily defeat her; having her make a critical mistake is about the only way to even the playing field.

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** The writers made Queen Sangria too DangerouslyGenreSavvy formidable for the heroes to easily defeat her; having her make a critical mistake is about the only way to even the playing field.
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** Queen Sangria has always been DangerouslyGenreSavvy and kept the heroines on their toes, manipulating events to keep them [[DividedWeFall fighting separately]] rather than teaming up against her. But suddenly, she appears before all three to [[EvilGloating gloat about everything she's done]], causing them to team up against her, and decides to take on the trio all at once.

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** Queen Sangria has always been DangerouslyGenreSavvy incredibly cunning and kept the heroines on their toes, manipulating events to keep them [[DividedWeFall fighting separately]] rather than teaming up against her. But suddenly, she appears before all three to [[EvilGloating gloat about everything she's done]], causing them to team up against her, and decides to take on the trio all at once.

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** TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her TrueCompanions, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[ActionGirl n]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.

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** TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her TrueCompanions, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[ActionGirl n]][[ShockAndAwe [[ActionGirl Rin]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.

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* '''Downplayed''': Ichigo is normally LawfulGood who realizes that Queen Sangria is not going to allow peace despite being the legal ruler. After giving a royal beating, Ichigo [[LawfulStupid insists Sangria be tried by the courts rather than just ending her there]], leading to the climax where she is assassinated in the court.

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Ichigo is normally LawfulGood who realizes that Queen Sangria is not going to allow peace despite being the legal ruler. After giving a royal beating, Ichigo [[LawfulStupid insists Sangria be tried by the courts rather than just ending her there]], leading to the climax where she is assassinated in the court.

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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Ichigo is normally LawfulGood who realizes that Queen Sangria is not going to allow peace despite being the legal ruler. After giving a royal beating, Ichigo [[LawfulStupid insists Sangria be tried by the courts rather than just ending her there]], leading to the climax where she is assassinated in the court.
** Queen Sangria normally does everything to remain innocent in the eyes of the public. After her actions are put forth to the public causing great amounts of civil unrest, she attacks the heroes instead of trying to scavenge her reputation.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Ichigo has always been a GuileHero, GenreSavvy and fantastic at planning things beforehand and [[IndyPloy making stuff up on the fly]]. But when it's time for her to confront Queen Sangria, she turns into a complete IdiotHero making TooDumbToLive mistakes.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Ichigo has always been a GuileHero, GenreSavvy and fantastic at planning things beforehand and [[IndyPloy making stuff up on the fly]]. But when it's time for her to confront Queen Sangria, she turns into a complete IdiotHero making TooDumbToLive mistakes.



* '''Justified''': Ichigo needs to fight Queen Sangria alone BecauseDestinySaysSo, and Sangria has found a way to render Budou and Ringo powerless.

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Ichigo needs to fight Queen Sangria alone BecauseDestinySaysSo, and Sangria has found a way to render Budou and Ringo powerless.



* '''Deconstructed''': Ichigo's bad decision gets her killed. Budou and Ringo are quick to follow, rendering Ichigo's main reason for choosing to go alone -- protecting her friends -- utterly moot.
** If Queen Sangra was going to change her mind later, she's out of luck; the instant she decides to confront Ichigo alone, [[TheStarscream Lady Jaded]] takes her chance to seize command, making sure everyone knows ''exactly'' how bad this mistake was. Bad-guy politics are never pretty.
* '''Reconstructed''': As Queen Sangria is overpowering Ichigo, she gloats on what a StupidSacrifice she's making, and that her friends will be the next to die. Hearing this triggers Ichigo's HeroicResolve, and she powers through and slays the evil queen.



* '''Enforced''': The writers want to add drama to the GrandFinale by splitting the team up, even though Ichigo wouldn't normally make such a huge tactical error like that.

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The writers want to add drama to the GrandFinale by splitting the team up, even though Ichigo wouldn't normally make such a huge tactical error like that.



* '''Invoked''': Aware that Ichigo is almost unstoppable with Budou and Ringo's backup, Queen Sangria teases them with hints that she has a way of neutralizing the other girls' powers. Ichigo then has to decide whether she should take the risk of going it alone or bring them along knowing that the queen could render her friends powerless and slaughter them.

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Aware that Ichigo is almost unstoppable with Budou and Ringo's backup, Queen Sangria teases them with hints that she has a way of neutralizing the other girls' powers. Ichigo then has to decide whether she should take the risk of going it alone or bring them along knowing that the queen could render her friends powerless and slaughter them.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Played For Laughs:''' ???
* '''Played For Drama:''' ???

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'''Deconstructed''':
** Ichigo's bad decision gets her killed. Budou and Ringo are quick to follow, rendering Ichigo's main reason for choosing to go alone -- protecting her friends -- utterly moot.
** If Queen Sangra was going to change her mind later, she's out of luck; the instant she decides to confront Ichigo alone, [[TheStarscream Lady Jaded]] takes her chance to seize command, making sure everyone knows ''exactly'' how bad this mistake was. Bad-guy politics are never pretty.
* '''Played For Drama:''' ???
'''Reconstructed''': As Queen Sangria is overpowering Ichigo, she gloats on what a StupidSacrifice she's making, and that her friends will be the next to die. Hearing this triggers Ichigo's HeroicResolve, and she powers through and slays the evil queen.



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* '''Zig Zagged''': [[TheHero Ichigo]] and [[Villain Sangria]] are both tactical geniuses. But when the climax came around, we lose sight of their ingenuity. In other words, they act like idiots. However, it's actually all part of each plan's to mark the other's downfall. But because their plans contrasted each other, nothing could move, so they had to fight head on anyway. But we soon find out that they don't simply act randomly but in fact ''forcing'' their initial plans to work.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': [[TheHero Ichigo]] and [[Villain [[{{Villain}} Sangria]] are both tactical geniuses. But when the climax came around, we lose sight of their ingenuity. In other words, they act like idiots. However, it's actually all part of each plan's to mark the other's downfall. But because their plans contrasted each other, nothing could move, so they had to fight head on anyway. But we soon find out that they don't simply act randomly but in fact ''forcing'' their initial plans to work.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???[[TheHero Ichigo]] and [[Villain Sangria]] are both tactical geniuses. But when the climax came around, we lose sight of their ingenuity. In other words, they act like idiots. However, it's actually all part of each plan's to mark the other's downfall. But because their plans contrasted each other, nothing could move, so they had to fight head on anyway. But we soon find out that they don't simply act randomly but in fact ''forcing'' their initial plans to work.
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* '''Straight''': TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her TrueCompanions, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[HotChickWithASword n]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.

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TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her TrueCompanions, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[HotChickWithASword Ri]][[ActionGirl n]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.
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* '''Straight''': TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her {{Nakama}}, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[HotChickWithASword n]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.

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* '''Straight''': TheHero [[StrawberryShorthand I]][[PlayingWithFire chi]][[FieryRedhead go]] has always succeeded thanks to the help of her {{Nakama}}, TrueCompanions, [[DarkMagicalGirl Bu]][[IceQueen dou]] and [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples Ri]][[HotChickWithASword n]][[ShockAndAwe go]]. However, when it comes time to confront [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sangria]], Ichigo insists on confronting her alone.
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** Queen Sangria has always been DangerouslyGenreSavvy and kept the heroines on their toes, manipulating events to keep them [[HangingSeparately fighting separately]] rather than teaming up against her. But suddenly, she appears before all three to [[EvilGloating gloat about everything she's done]], causing them to team up against her, and decides to take on the trio all at once.

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** Queen Sangria has always been DangerouslyGenreSavvy and kept the heroines on their toes, manipulating events to keep them [[HangingSeparately [[DividedWeFall fighting separately]] rather than teaming up against her. But suddenly, she appears before all three to [[EvilGloating gloat about everything she's done]], causing them to team up against her, and decides to take on the trio all at once.
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**If Queen Sangra was going to change her mind later, she's out of luck; the instant she decides to confront Ichigo alone, [[TheStarscream Lady Jaded]] takes her chance to seize command, making sure everyone knows ''exactly'' how bad this mistake was. Bad-guy politics are never pretty.

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