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** Charles wasn't even on the same continent as her father, but Bob reasons that, thanks to the [[ForWantOfANail butterfly effect]], had Charles acted differently, her father never would have died.

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** Charles wasn't even on the same continent as her father, but Bob reasons that, thanks to the [[ForWantOfANail butterfly effect]], effect, had Charles acted differently, her father never would have died.
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'''Basic Trope''': A statement that's ''technically'' true but deeply misleading without all the facts.

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'''Basic Trope''': A statement that's ''technically'' true but deeply extremely misleading without all the facts.
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'''Basic Trope''': A lie that gets excused as a "truth" by a shaky justification.

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'''Basic Trope''': A lie that gets excused as a "truth" by a shaky justification.statement that's ''technically'' true but deeply misleading without all the facts.
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** "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!! It's not about what ''you'' think happened, it's about what really happened! Even if nobody else knows it!"

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** "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!! It's not about what ''you'' think happened, it's about what really happened! [[WhatYouAreInTheDark Even if nobody else knows it!"it!]]"
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** In the original script, Alice's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later [[RetCon RetConned]] due to ExecutiveMeddling.

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** In the original script, Alice's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later [[RetCon RetConned]] Retconned]] due to ExecutiveMeddling.
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** In the original script, Alice's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later {{RetCon}}ned due to ExecutiveMeddling.

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** In the original script, Alice's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later {{RetCon}}ned [[RetCon RetConned]] due to ExecutiveMeddling.

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** Bob tells Alice that her father committed suicide. After all he considers opposing the Empire to be a suicidal endeavor.



** Bob tells Alice her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Alice discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Bob was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.

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** Bob tells Alice her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Alice discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], true, it is discovered that Bob was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' intentionally to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.
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** Bob tells Alice that he is a freedom fighter, he fights freedom the way firefighter fight fire and crime fighters fight crime.

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** Bob tells Alice that he is a freedom fighter, he fights freedom the way firefighter firefighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime.
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* '''Played For Drama:''' Bob was a mentor/father figure to Alice for most of her life, and finding out that he was a lying liar for lies shakes her confidence in everything.

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* '''Played For Drama:''' Bob was a mentor/father figure to Alice for most of her life, and finding out that he was a lying liar for lies shakes her confidence in everything. Considering he actually ''did'' have some understandable reasons for hiding the AwfulTruth, which is why she's uncertain if she should really stop believing him altogether.
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** "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!!"

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** "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!!"'''lied'''!!! It's not about what ''you'' think happened, it's about what really happened! Even if nobody else knows it!"
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** "You listen to me, you son of a bitch: you will provide information, ''right now''! Complete and unvarnished information; none of those "from a certain point of view" fucking bullshit loopholes! And if I ever discover that you twisted so much as a single fucking vowel and this is what got me and my men almost killed, endangered the fucking galaxy or [[SurpriseIncest almost made us make out with our siblings]] or whatever, ''I will fucking kill you right then and rhere'' and to hell with whatever happens to me afterwards! '''Are we fucking clear'''?!?"

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** "You listen to me, you son of a bitch: you will provide information, ''right now''! Complete and unvarnished information; none of those "from a certain point of view" fucking bullshit loopholes! And if I ever discover that you twisted so much as a single fucking vowel and this is what got me and my men almost killed, endangered the fucking galaxy or [[SurpriseIncest almost made us make out with our siblings]] or whatever, ''I will fucking kill you right then and rhere'' here'' and to hell with whatever happens to me afterwards! '''Are we fucking clear'''?!?"
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* "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!!"

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* ** "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!!"
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* "You lied. You ''lied'', you ''lied'', you ''lied''! It doesn't matters what kind of wordplay you use to try to defend it, you bastard, you '''lied'''!!!"
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* '''Exploited''': "DidYouTrulyBelieve that Bob was telling you the whole truth, huh, Alice?"

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* '''Exploited''': "DidYouTrulyBelieve "DidYouActuallyBelieve that Bob was telling you the whole truth, huh, Alice?"

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* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Bob points out that he could give this type of lie to make Alice feel better about working with him, then tells her that she'll still work with him due to [[EnemyMine other reasons]].

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* '''Exploited''': ???
"DidYouTrulyBelieve that Bob was telling you the whole truth, huh, Alice?"
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Bob points out that he could give this type of lie to make Alice feel better about working with him, then tells her that she'll still work with him due to [[EnemyMine other reasons]].reasons]].
** "You listen to me, you son of a bitch: you will provide information, ''right now''! Complete and unvarnished information; none of those "from a certain point of view" fucking bullshit loopholes! And if I ever discover that you twisted so much as a single fucking vowel and this is what got me and my men almost killed, endangered the fucking galaxy or [[SurpriseIncest almost made us make out with our siblings]] or whatever, ''I will fucking kill you right then and rhere'' and to hell with whatever happens to me afterwards! '''Are we fucking clear'''?!?"
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** Bob tells Alice that [[BoisterousBruiser Charles]], a member of LaResistance, is Bob responsible for her father's death. In fact, Bob struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Charles tried to save him. Bob "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Charles had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.

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** Bob tells Alice that [[BoisterousBruiser Charles]], a member of LaResistance, is Bob responsible for her father's death. In fact, Bob struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Charles tried to save him. Bob "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Charles had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.

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** Bob tells Alice that [[BoisterousBruiser Charles]], a member of LaResistance, is responsible for her father's death. In fact, ''Bob'' struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Charles tried to ''save'' him. Nathan "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Charles had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.

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** Bob tells Alice that [[BoisterousBruiser Charles]], a member of LaResistance, is Bob responsible for her father's death. In fact, ''Bob'' Bob struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Charles tried to ''save'' save him. Nathan Bob "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Charles had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.



** Bob tells Alice that he is a freedom fighter, he fights freedom the way firefighter fight fire and crime fighters fight crime.



** Or: When Alice confronts Bob with the truth, he's just as surprised by it as she was.

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** Or: When Alice confronts Bob with the truth, he's just as surprised by it as she was.



* '''Zig Zagged''': It appears that the resistance fighter "Nate" killed Alice's father, then approached her with this type of lie to get her on their side, but does it rather ineptly. When Alice [[SpottingTheThread Spots The Thread]] and learns this, she abandons the resistance entirely. Charles then finds evidence that Nate is TheMole Bob and believes he killed her father and leaked the "truth" to her to avoid any chance of Alice joining the resistance for real. On confronting Nate, it finally comes out that Alice's ''father'' was TheMole and Nate was trying to protect her from that revelation - he was just bad at lying. Probably.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': It appears that the resistance fighter "Nate" Charles killed Alice's father, then approached her with this type of lie to get her on their side, but does it rather ineptly. When Alice [[SpottingTheThread Spots The Thread]] and learns this, she abandons the resistance entirely. Charles then finds evidence that Nate is TheMole Bob and believes he killed her father and leaked the "truth" to her to avoid any chance of Alice joining the resistance for real. On confronting Nate, it finally comes out that Alice's ''father'' was TheMole and Nate was trying to protect her from that revelation - he was just bad at lying. Probably.
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* '''Straight''': [[KnightTemplar Nathaniel]] tells [[LadyOfWar Jessica]] that her father was killed by LaResistance. Actually, her father was a ''member'' of LaResistance and was killed by TheEmpire; Nathaniel merely takes the view that if not for LaResistance, he'd still be alive.

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* '''Straight''': [[KnightTemplar Nathaniel]] Bob]] tells [[LadyOfWar Jessica]] Alice]] that her father was killed by LaResistance. Actually, her father was a ''member'' of LaResistance and was killed by TheEmpire; Nathaniel Bob merely takes the view that if not for LaResistance, he'd still be alive.



** Nathaniel tells Jessica that [[BoisterousBruiser Cliff]], a member of LaResistance, is responsible for her father's death. In fact, ''Nathaniel'' struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Cliff tried to ''save'' him. Nathan "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Cliff had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.
** Cliff wasn't even on the same continent as her father, but Nathaniel reasons that, thanks to the [[ForWantOfANail butterfly effect]], had Cliff acted differently, her father never would have died.
** Nathaniel reasons that if Cliff was ''there'', he might have been able to save Jessica's father.
** Nathaniel claims Jessica's father died of natural causes, reasoning that [[BlackComedy it's perfectly natural for someone to die]] [[InsaneTrollLogic after being shot in the head]].
* '''Downplayed''': Nathaniel tells Jessica the resistance killed her father. He was actually caught between a fight between the resistance and empire, and was not the only victim. Nathaniel reasons that had the resistance not engaged the empire in such a place, the people would have been spared.

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** Nathaniel Bob tells Jessica Alice that [[BoisterousBruiser Cliff]], Charles]], a member of LaResistance, is responsible for her father's death. In fact, ''Nathaniel'' ''Bob'' struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Cliff Charles tried to ''save'' him. Nathan "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Cliff Charles had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.
** Cliff Charles wasn't even on the same continent as her father, but Nathaniel Bob reasons that, thanks to the [[ForWantOfANail butterfly effect]], had Cliff Charles acted differently, her father never would have died.
** Nathaniel Bob reasons that if Cliff Charles was ''there'', he might have been able to save Jessica's Alice's father.
** Nathaniel Bob claims Jessica's Alice's father died of natural causes, reasoning that [[BlackComedy it's perfectly natural for someone to die]] [[InsaneTrollLogic after being shot in the head]].
* '''Downplayed''': Nathaniel Bob tells Jessica Alice the resistance killed her father. He was actually caught between a fight between the resistance and empire, and was not the only victim. Nathaniel Bob reasons that had the resistance not engaged the empire in such a place, the people would have been spared.



** Nathaniel tells Jessica her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Jessica discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Nathaniel was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.
** Nathaniel does not like telling lies, but sees no problems in bending the "truth" around to make people come to their own conclusions.
* '''Inverted''': Nathaniel tells Jessica that he died fighting for the resistance. After she finds out he was a redshirt, she claims he lied to her, because he gave her the impression that her father was a major factor in the war.

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** Nathaniel Bob tells Jessica Alice her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Jessica Alice discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Nathaniel Bob was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.
** Nathaniel Bob does not like telling lies, but sees no problems in bending the "truth" around to make people come to their own conclusions.
* '''Inverted''': Nathaniel Bob tells Jessica Alice that he died fighting for the resistance. After she finds out he was a redshirt, she claims he lied to her, because he gave her the impression that her father was a major factor in the war.



** Or: When Jessica confronts Nathaniel with the truth, he's just as surprised by it as she was.

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** Or: When Jessica Alice confronts Nathaniel Bob with the truth, he's just as surprised by it as she was.



* '''Parodied''': Nathaniel tells Jessica completely BlatantLies and uses InsaneTrollLogic to justify everything.
* '''Zig Zagged''': It appears that the resistance fighter "Nate" killed Jessica's father, then approached her with this type of lie to get her on their side, but does it rather ineptly. When Jessica [[SpottingTheThread Spots The Thread]] and learns this, she abandons the resistance entirely. Cliff then finds evidence that Nate is TheMole Nathaniel and believes he killed her father and leaked the "truth" to her to avoid any chance of Jessica joining the resistance for real. On confronting Nate, it finally comes out that Jessica's ''father'' was TheMole and Nate was trying to protect her from that revelation - he was just bad at lying. Probably.

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* '''Parodied''': Nathaniel Bob tells Jessica Alice completely BlatantLies and uses InsaneTrollLogic to justify everything.
* '''Zig Zagged''': It appears that the resistance fighter "Nate" killed Jessica's Alice's father, then approached her with this type of lie to get her on their side, but does it rather ineptly. When Jessica Alice [[SpottingTheThread Spots The Thread]] and learns this, she abandons the resistance entirely. Cliff Charles then finds evidence that Nate is TheMole Nathaniel Bob and believes he killed her father and leaked the "truth" to her to avoid any chance of Jessica Alice joining the resistance for real. On confronting Nate, it finally comes out that Jessica's Alice's ''father'' was TheMole and Nate was trying to protect her from that revelation - he was just bad at lying. Probably.



** Nathaniel flat-out lies and has no logic, even shaky logic, to justify his claims.

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** Nathaniel Bob flat-out lies and has no logic, even shaky logic, to justify his claims.



** Nathaniel's cryptic comments on the subject could mean almost anything, and strings Jessica along by letting on that he knows something, but never telling her anything.

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** Nathaniel's Bob's cryptic comments on the subject could mean almost anything, and strings Jessica Alice along by letting on that he knows something, but never telling her anything.



** Having Nathaniel lie cements him as "one of the bad guys" and gives the writer a way to set up [[LetsYouAndHimFight conflict]] between Jessica and Cliff before she [[TheReveal learns the truth]] and [[HeelFaceTurn joins the heroes]].
** In the original script, Jessica's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later {{RetCon}}ned due to ExecutiveMeddling.
* '''Lampshaded''': Jessica responds to Nathaniel's lie by asking how accurate it really is, but otherwise accepts it at face value.
* '''Invoked''': Nathaniel intentionally allows Jessica to learn the truth after giving this type of lie in order to discredit his own side, while acting as TheMole.

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** Having Nathaniel Bob lie cements him as "one of the bad guys" and gives the writer a way to set up [[LetsYouAndHimFight conflict]] between Jessica Alice and Cliff Charles before she [[TheReveal learns the truth]] and [[HeelFaceTurn joins the heroes]].
** In the original script, Jessica's Alice's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later {{RetCon}}ned due to ExecutiveMeddling.
* '''Lampshaded''': Jessica Alice responds to Nathaniel's Bob's lie by asking how accurate it really is, but otherwise accepts it at face value.
* '''Invoked''': Nathaniel Bob intentionally allows Jessica Alice to learn the truth after giving this type of lie in order to discredit his own side, while acting as TheMole.



* '''Defied''': Nathaniel points out that he could give this type of lie to make Jessica feel better about working with him, then tells her that she'll still work with him due to [[EnemyMine other reasons]].
* '''Discussed''': Nathaniel considers how to convince Jessica to help him with a friend before approaching her, including the use of this lie and the possible ramifications if the truth emerges.
* '''Conversed''': "Well, that was a really vague and contrived way to be honest. Way to be, Nathaniel."
* '''Deconstructed''': Nathaniel twists the truth because he believes the AwfulTruth would hurt Jessica too much, and he's afraid of losing her friendship. Naturally, when she finally learns the truth and turns on him, it's even more devestating.
* '''Reconstructed''': However, after some contemplation, Jessica realises that Nathaniel's intentions were in her best interests, and that if she had learnt the truth about her father's death earlier, she might have not been mature/discreet/strong enough to do the right thing. So she returns to LaResistance and proceeds to destroy TheEmpire and avenge her father.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' The lie is about something ridiculously trivial, like why Jessica received key lime pie instead of lemon meringue. This is presented with [[FelonyMisdemeanor just as much drama as an actual murder would have been]].
* '''Played For Drama:''' Nathaniel was a mentor/father figure to Jessica for most of her life, and finding out that he was a lying liar for lies shakes her confidence in everything.

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* '''Defied''': Nathaniel Bob points out that he could give this type of lie to make Jessica Alice feel better about working with him, then tells her that she'll still work with him due to [[EnemyMine other reasons]].
* '''Discussed''': Nathaniel Bob considers how to convince Jessica Alice to help him with a friend before approaching her, including the use of this lie and the possible ramifications if the truth emerges.
* '''Conversed''': "Well, that was a really vague and contrived way to be honest. Way to be, Nathaniel.Bob."
* '''Deconstructed''': Nathaniel Bob twists the truth because he believes the AwfulTruth would hurt Jessica Alice too much, and he's afraid of losing her friendship. Naturally, when she finally learns the truth and turns on him, it's even more devestating.
devastating.
* '''Reconstructed''': However, after some contemplation, Jessica Alice realises that Nathaniel's Bob's intentions were in her best interests, and that if she had learnt the truth about her father's death earlier, she might have not been mature/discreet/strong enough to do the right thing. So she returns to LaResistance and proceeds to destroy TheEmpire and avenge her father.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' The lie is about something ridiculously trivial, like why Jessica Alice received key lime pie instead of lemon meringue. This is presented with [[FelonyMisdemeanor just as much drama as an actual murder would have been]].
* '''Played For Drama:''' Nathaniel Bob was a mentor/father figure to Jessica Alice for most of her life, and finding out that he was a lying liar for lies shakes her confidence in everything.

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* '''Enforced''': Having Nathaniel lie cements him as "one of the bad guys" and gives the writer a way to set up [[LetsYouAndHimFight conflict]] between Jessica and Cliff before she [[TheReveal learns the truth]] and [[HeelFaceTurn joins the heroes]].

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Having Nathaniel lie cements him as "one of the bad guys" and gives the writer a way to set up [[LetsYouAndHimFight conflict]] between Jessica and Cliff before she [[TheReveal learns the truth]] and [[HeelFaceTurn joins the heroes]].heroes]].
** In the original script, Jessica's father actually ''was '' killed by LaResistance, but this was later {{RetCon}}ned due to ExecutiveMeddling.

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* '''Justified''': Nathaniel tells Jessica her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Jessica discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Nathaniel was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Nathaniel tells Jessica her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Jessica discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Nathaniel was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.

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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Nathaniel tells Jessica the resistance killed her father. He was actually caught between a fight between the resistance and empire, and was not the only victim. Nathaniel reasons that had the resistance not engaged the empire in such a place, the people would have been spared.


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** Nathaniel does not like telling lies, but sees no problems in bending the "truth" around to make people come to their own conclusions.
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'''Basic Trope''': A lie that gets excused as a "truth" by a shaky justification.
* '''Straight''': [[KnightTemplar Nathaniel]] tells [[LadyOfWar Jessica]] that her father was killed by LaResistance. Actually, her father was a ''member'' of LaResistance and was killed by TheEmpire; Nathaniel merely takes the view that if not for LaResistance, he'd still be alive.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Nathaniel tells Jessica that [[BoisterousBruiser Cliff]], a member of LaResistance, is responsible for her father's death. In fact, ''Nathaniel'' struck down her father while fighting LaResistance; Cliff tried to ''save'' him. Nathan "reasons" that her father would still be alive, if Cliff had managed to rescue him -- but since he failed, obviously that means he's responsible.
** Cliff wasn't even on the same continent as her father, but Nathaniel reasons that, thanks to the [[ForWantOfANail butterfly effect]], had Cliff acted differently, her father never would have died.
** Nathaniel reasons that if Cliff was ''there'', he might have been able to save Jessica's father.
** Nathaniel claims Jessica's father died of natural causes, reasoning that [[BlackComedy it's perfectly natural for someone to die]] [[InsaneTrollLogic after being shot in the head]].
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''': Nathaniel tells Jessica her father would be alive today if not for the resistance, but some time after Jessica discovers that it's only true [[HalfTruth from a certain point of view]], it is discovered that Nathaniel was told the LaResistance abandoned him to TheEmpire ''intentionally'' to save themselves. See also the example for Deconstruction, below.
* '''Inverted''': Nathaniel tells Jessica that he died fighting for the resistance. After she finds out he was a redshirt, she claims he lied to her, because he gave her the impression that her father was a major factor in the war.
* '''Subverted''':
** Her father really was killed by the resistance. They lied to her to get her on their side.
** Or: When Jessica confronts Nathaniel with the truth, he's just as surprised by it as she was.
* '''Double Subverted''': Or Did They?
* '''Parodied''': Nathaniel tells Jessica completely BlatantLies and uses InsaneTrollLogic to justify everything.
* '''Zig Zagged''': It appears that the resistance fighter "Nate" killed Jessica's father, then approached her with this type of lie to get her on their side, but does it rather ineptly. When Jessica [[SpottingTheThread Spots The Thread]] and learns this, she abandons the resistance entirely. Cliff then finds evidence that Nate is TheMole Nathaniel and believes he killed her father and leaked the "truth" to her to avoid any chance of Jessica joining the resistance for real. On confronting Nate, it finally comes out that Jessica's ''father'' was TheMole and Nate was trying to protect her from that revelation - he was just bad at lying. Probably.
* '''Averted''':
** Nathaniel flat-out lies and has no logic, even shaky logic, to justify his claims.
** He tells the truth, no matter how painful as it might be.
** Nathaniel's cryptic comments on the subject could mean almost anything, and strings Jessica along by letting on that he knows something, but never telling her anything.
* '''Enforced''': Having Nathaniel lie cements him as "one of the bad guys" and gives the writer a way to set up [[LetsYouAndHimFight conflict]] between Jessica and Cliff before she [[TheReveal learns the truth]] and [[HeelFaceTurn joins the heroes]].
* '''Lampshaded''': Jessica responds to Nathaniel's lie by asking how accurate it really is, but otherwise accepts it at face value.
* '''Invoked''': Nathaniel intentionally allows Jessica to learn the truth after giving this type of lie in order to discredit his own side, while acting as TheMole.
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Nathaniel points out that he could give this type of lie to make Jessica feel better about working with him, then tells her that she'll still work with him due to [[EnemyMine other reasons]].
* '''Discussed''': Nathaniel considers how to convince Jessica to help him with a friend before approaching her, including the use of this lie and the possible ramifications if the truth emerges.
* '''Conversed''': "Well, that was a really vague and contrived way to be honest. Way to be, Nathaniel."
* '''Deconstructed''': Nathaniel twists the truth because he believes the AwfulTruth would hurt Jessica too much, and he's afraid of losing her friendship. Naturally, when she finally learns the truth and turns on him, it's even more devestating.
* '''Reconstructed''': However, after some contemplation, Jessica realises that Nathaniel's intentions were in her best interests, and that if she had learnt the truth about her father's death earlier, she might have not been mature/discreet/strong enough to do the right thing. So she returns to LaResistance and proceeds to destroy TheEmpire and avenge her father.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' The lie is about something ridiculously trivial, like why Jessica received key lime pie instead of lemon meringue. This is presented with [[FelonyMisdemeanor just as much drama as an actual murder would have been]].
* '''Played For Drama:''' Nathaniel was a mentor/father figure to Jessica for most of her life, and finding out that he was a lying liar for lies shakes her confidence in everything.
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%%* '''Untwisted:''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???

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