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* '''Averted''': The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin thateasily. easily.
** Bob brings [[FriendlySniper Charlie and Daniel]] to the meeting to ShootTheHostageTaker as it is the only way to assure her safety.
** The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that
** Bob brings [[FriendlySniper Charlie and Daniel]] to the meeting to ShootTheHostageTaker as it is the only way to assure her safety.
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** Bob tells the BigBad that he can kill Alice for all he cares, he will never obtain the MacGuffin, and hangs up.
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* PlayedForLaughs: [[TheFool Bob]] doesn't understands how these kind of situations work at all and he needs to have it explained to him, repeatedly, like a kindergarten student.
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-->'''Alice''': [[So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]
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-->'''Alice''': [[So So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer offered my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]do?
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* '''Played For Drama''': The Macguffin is the only thing stopping the BigBad from taking over the world...but Alice is Bob's One True Love, and he's not powerful enough to rescue her directly. Furthermore, even if he does hand over the trinket,[[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo it's highly likely that Alice will be kept hostage anyway,]] as "extra insurance." Even if the conclusions drawn are clear, Bob agonises [[ShootTheDog over the decision to keep the macguffin and leaved his loved one for dead.]]
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* '''Played For Drama''': The Macguffin is the only thing stopping the BigBad from taking over the world...but Alice is Bob's One True Love, TrueLove, and he's not powerful enough to rescue her directly. Furthermore, even if he does hand over the trinket,[[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo it's highly likely that Alice will be kept hostage anyway,]] as "extra insurance." Even if the conclusions drawn are clear, Bob agonises [[ShootTheDog over the decision to keep the macguffin and leaved his loved one for dead.]]
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-->'''Alice''': [[CavemenAndAstronautsDebate ''So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]
-->'''Bob''': '' [[BrutalHonesty I'd tell them to screw themselves and keep it.]]''
-->'''Bob''': '' [[BrutalHonesty I'd tell them to screw themselves and keep it.]]''
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-->'''Alice''': [[CavemenAndAstronautsDebate ''So [[So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]
-->'''Bob''':'' [[BrutalHonesty I'd keep it, and tell them to go screw themselves and keep it.]]''themselves.]]
-->'''Bob''':
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
* '''Averted''': The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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**The deal is struck, and the hostage exchange goes forward. But it turns out that "Alice" was just a IdenticalStranger, and the BigBad leaves cackling-until it turns out the Macguffin Bob offers [[FakinMacGuffin is also a fake.]] Both parties leave feeling rather foolish.
* '''Averted''': The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
**The deal is struck, and the hostage exchange goes forward. But it turns out that "Alice" was just a IdenticalStranger, and the BigBad leaves cackling-until it turns out the Macguffin Bob offers [[FakinMacGuffin is also a fake.]] Both parties leave feeling rather foolish.
* '''Averted''': The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
** "You have my Macguffin, I have your girl. Let's talk ''business.''"
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Exploited''': ???Alice is a DamselOutOfDistress and bob is a master con artist. Bob takes the chance to make a fake Macguffin while Alice waits for the right moment to strike. Eventually, [[OutGambitted Bob escapes with both macguffin and Alice in tow]].
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': ???'''Discussed''':
-->'''Alice''': [[CavemenAndAstronautsDebate ''So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]
-->'''Bob''': '' [[BrutalHonesty I'd tell them to screw themselves and keep it.]]''
-->'''Alice''': ''Excuse me?!!''
-->'''Alice''': [[CavemenAndAstronautsDebate ''So Bob, If I was captured by the enemy... and they offer my life for the Macguffin... what would you do?]]
-->'''Bob''': '' [[BrutalHonesty I'd tell them to screw themselves and keep it.]]''
-->'''Alice''': ''Excuse me?!!''
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* '''Played For Drama''': The Macguffin is the only thing stopping the BigBad from taking over the world...but Alice is Bob's One True Love, and he's not powerful enough to rescue her directly. Furthermore, even if he does hand over the trinket,[[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo it's highly likely that Alice will be kept hostage anyway,]] as "extra insurance." Even if the conclusions drawn are clear, Bob agonises [[ShootTheDog over the decision to keep the macguffin and leaved his loved one for dead.]]
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** The BigBad refuses to deal with the myriad ways a HostageSituation can go wrong and decides it's better to just steal the damn thing from Bob.
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** Bob hands over the MacGuffin to the authorities the first chance he gets -- authorities that the BigBad has no control over (as it's been amply shown). If the BigBad wants it, he can risk charging into police headquarters and getting the wrong end of a CopKillerManhunt on top of everything else he's dealing with.
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** Bob destroys the MacGuffin the first chance he gets. If it's destroyed, Alice won't be a kidnapping target, right?
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* '''Inverted''': The BigBad has obtained the MacGuffin, but is willing to give it to the heroes in exchange for Alice.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** The BigBad has obtained the MacGuffin, but is willing to give it to the heroes in exchange for Alice.
** Bob calls the BigBad before the latter can call him and he threatens to activate the MacGuffin if the BigBad doesn't hands over Alice.
** The BigBad has obtained the MacGuffin, but is willing to give it to the heroes in exchange for Alice.
** Bob calls the BigBad before the latter can call him and he threatens to activate the MacGuffin if the BigBad doesn't hands over Alice.
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** Bob activates the MacGuffin before going to get Alice. The BigBad CantStopTheSignal, and what he has left is revenge... except that Bob's RoaringRampageOfRescue denies him that instead.
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* '''Averted''': ???
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* '''Averted''': ???The BigBad captures Alice [[LuredIntoATrap as bait]] because he knows Bob won't give up the MacGuffin that easily.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The BigBad has captured all the heroes except Bob, and is willing to let them go if Bob gives him the multiple plot coupons.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is stuck in a neutral area in a war. The BigBad is willing to let the hero's side reclaim the area without a fight if he just hands over the macGuffin.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is stuck in a neutral area in a war. The BigBad is willing to let the hero's side reclaim the area without a fight if he just hands over the macGuffin.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The BigBad has captured all the heroes except Bob, and is willing to let them go if Bob gives him the multiple plot coupons.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice is stuck in a neutral area in a war. The BigBad is willing to let the hero's side reclaim the area without a fight if he just hands over themacGuffin.MacGuffin.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice is stuck in a neutral area in a war. The BigBad is willing to let the hero's side reclaim the area without a fight if he just hands over the
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** Alternately, Bob refuses to give the BigBad the MacGuffin, while being well aware that this will lead to [[ShootTheDog Alice's death. ]]
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** Bob, refusing to give the BigBad the MacGuffin, tries to rescue Alice instead.
** Alternately, Bob refuses to give the BigBad the MacGuffin, while being well aware that this will lead to [[ShootTheDog Alice's death. ]]
** Alternately, Bob refuses to give the BigBad the MacGuffin, while being well aware that this will lead to [[ShootTheDog Alice's death.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Alice is stuck in a neutral area in a war. The BigBad is willing to let the hero's side reclaim the area without a fight if he just hands over the macGuffin.
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* '''Parodied''': ???The BigBad has Alice. Every single meeting after the capturing has the BigBad saying something along the lines of "you know, I might be willing to let a few things go if you hand over the MacGuffin" Each time.
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* '''Justified''': TheHero is too good hearted to be bribed or blackmailed, but he would do anything to protect his friends.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''': TheHero is too good hearted to be bribed or blackmailed, but he would do anything to protect his friends.
* '''Justified''': TheHero is too good hearted to be bribed or blackmailed, but he would do anything to protect his friends.
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** Bob ''tries'' to give the BigBad the MacGuffin to save Alice, but it turns out that the ClingyMacGuffin has other ideas. It simply reappears in Bob's hand, takes over his body and prevents him from handing it over, etc.
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** Bob ''tries'' to give the BigBad the MacGuffin to save Alice, but it turns out that the ClingyMacGuffin has other ideas. It simply reappears in Bob's hand, takes over his body and prevents him from handing it over, etc.
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%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Deconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
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* '''Subverted''': The BigBad is about to capture Alice so he can get Bob to give him the MacGuffin in exchange for her safety, but Alice manages to get away...
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** The BigBad is about to capture Alice so he can get Bob to give him the MacGuffin in exchange for her safety, but Alice manages to get away...
** The BigBad is about to capture Alice so he can get Bob to give him the MacGuffin in exchange for her safety, but Alice manages to get away...
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* '''Defied''': Realising what the BigBad is about to do, Alice breaks free on her own before the BigBad can make his demands for the MacGuffin.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Realising what the BigBad is about to do, Alice breaks free on her own before the BigBad can make his demands for the MacGuffin.
** Realising what the BigBad is about to do, Alice breaks free on her own before the BigBad can make his demands for the MacGuffin.
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** Bob ''tries'' to give the BigBad the MacGuffin to save Alice, but it turns out that the ClingyMacGuffin has other ideas. It simply reappears in Bob's hand, takes over his body and prevents him from handing it over, etc.
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* '''Justified''': ???
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* '''Justified''': ???TheHero is too good hearted to be bribed or blackmailed, but he would do anything to protect his friends.
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** The "hostage" is [[BruceWayneHeldHostage Captain Awesome's]] SecretIdentity.
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*'''Exaggerated''': The BigBad has captured all the heroes except Bob, and is willing to let them go if Bob gives him the plot coupons.
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*'''Exaggerated''': The BigBad has captured all the heroes except Bob, and is willing to let them go if Bob gives him the multiple plot coupons.
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*'''Double Subverted''': ... So he captures Carol who was hiding nearby instead.
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*'''Double Subverted''': ... So he captures Carol who was hiding nearby just conveniently showed up instead.
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*'''Invoked''': ???Bob and the BigBad are both trying to find the MacGuffin, so the villain captures Alice and keeps her hostage so he will have a back-up plan just in case Bob happens to find the MacGuffin first.
