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* '''Justified''': ???In the nation of Troperia, people becoming a hero to honour their loved ones after their deaths is the norm, not the exception.
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"My father died two weeks ago. You know what this means? It's hero time."
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'''Invoked''':
** ManipulativeBastard Dick persuades Abigail to become a hero and avenge Brian when she is mourning.
** Dick murders Brian in hopes of spurring Abigail to become a hero.
* '''Exploited''':???
The villain Evulz knows that Abigail became a hero due to her father's death. In order to lower her guard and defeat her once and for all, Evulz takes on the appearance of Brian.
* '''Defied''':???Abigail considers the path of heroism due to Brian's death, but she decides against it, [[MoralityChainBeyondTheGrave believing her father wouldn't approve if he were alive]].
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** ManipulativeBastard Dick persuades Abigail to become a hero and avenge Brian when she is mourning.
** Dick murders Brian in hopes of spurring Abigail to become a hero.
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* '''Implied''': ???Abigail mentions her father Brian a lot during her HeroismMotiveSpeech. Brian is currently deceased. Connect the dots.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Every single person in Troperia is driven to become a hero because their loved ones died.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Every single person in the nation of Troperia is driven to become a hero because their loved ones died.
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* '''Inverted''': [[StartOfDarkness The death of Abigail's father, Brian, is what motivates her to become a villain]].
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* '''Inverted''': [[StartOfDarkness The death of Abigail's father, Brian, is what motivates her to become a villain]].???
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* '''Implied:''': '''Implied''': ???
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It turns out that Abigail became a hero for reasons ''other'' than the death of her father.
* '''Double Subverted''':???But then it turns out that Abigail is just suppressing her painful memories about her father's last words.
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* '''Discussed''': ???''Heroes are often born from tragedies and dead loved ones,'' Abigail mused, ''What a fate.''
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%%* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
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'''Basic Trope''': A death that defines the protagonist's origin won't be undone.
* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so [[DownerEnding he has to remain dead.]]
* '''Exaggerated''': Abigail perfects time travel after her father's death to save him, and manages to save countless of secondary and incidental characters using Time Travel but because of a poorly contrived TimeyWimeyBall Brian has to stay dead.
* '''Downplayed''': Abigail visits an AlternateUniverse where Brian is still alive. She decides that knowing he's alive ''somewhere'' is enough and stops torturing herself.
* '''Justified''': The way TimeTravel works makes it a practical impossibility to rescue Brian in any way.
* '''Inverted''': As soon as Abigail decides to dedicate her life to perfecting Time Travel to save Brian, it's already as good as happened and a future version of herself appears with a time-displaced version of Brian, who is instrumental in helping Abigal perfect Time Travel.
* '''Subverted''': Abigail manages to save Brian, and she goes on to become a more compelling character now that she has to deal with the emotional transition of having a now living father who is ''younger'' than she is living in the present. Brian, for his part, is a FishOutOfWater who alternates gratitude and resentment at being saved against his will.
* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateTimeline. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
* '''Parodied''': There's a support group for characters whose dear ones have died but can't be resurrected, while ''everyone else'' can come back from the dead just fine.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Because of the finicky nature of time travel, sometimes Brian can or can't be saved.
* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so [[DownerEnding he has to remain dead.]]
* '''Exaggerated''': Abigail perfects time travel after her father's death to save him, and manages to save countless of secondary and incidental characters using Time Travel but because of a poorly contrived TimeyWimeyBall Brian has to stay dead.
* '''Downplayed''': Abigail visits an AlternateUniverse where Brian is still alive. She decides that knowing he's alive ''somewhere'' is enough and stops torturing herself.
* '''Justified''': The way TimeTravel works makes it a practical impossibility to rescue Brian in any way.
* '''Inverted''': As soon as Abigail decides to dedicate her life to perfecting Time Travel to save Brian, it's already as good as happened and a future version of herself appears with a time-displaced version of Brian, who is instrumental in helping Abigal perfect Time Travel.
* '''Subverted''': Abigail manages to save Brian, and she goes on to become a more compelling character now that she has to deal with the emotional transition of having a now living father who is ''younger'' than she is living in the present. Brian, for his part, is a FishOutOfWater who alternates gratitude and resentment at being saved against his will.
* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateTimeline. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
* '''Parodied''': There's a support group for characters whose dear ones have died but can't be resurrected, while ''everyone else'' can come back from the dead just fine.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Because of the finicky nature of time travel, sometimes Brian can or can't be saved.
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'''Basic Trope''': A The death of people important to a main character (or their own death) is an important event that defines the protagonist's origin won't be undone.
forms their identity and motivations.
* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian,due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes is what motivates her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so [[DownerEnding he has to remain dead.]]
become a hero.
* '''Exaggerated''':Abigail perfects time travel after her father's death Every single person in Troperia is driven to save him, and manages to save countless of secondary and incidental characters using Time Travel but become a hero because of a poorly contrived TimeyWimeyBall Brian has to stay dead.
their loved ones died.
* '''Downplayed''':Abigail visits an AlternateUniverse where Brian is still alive. She decides that knowing he's alive ''somewhere'' is enough and stops torturing herself.
???
* '''Justified''':The way TimeTravel works makes it a practical impossibility to rescue Brian in any way.
???
* '''Inverted''':As soon as Abigail decides to dedicate her life to perfecting Time Travel to save [[StartOfDarkness The death of Abigail's father, Brian, it's already as good as happened and a future version of herself appears with a time-displaced version of Brian, who is instrumental in helping Abigal perfect Time Travel.
what motivates her to become a villain]].
* '''Subverted''':Abigail manages to save Brian, and she goes on to become a more compelling character now that she has to deal with the emotional transition of having a now living father who is ''younger'' than she is living in the present. Brian, for his part, is a FishOutOfWater who alternates gratitude and resentment at being saved against his will.
???
* '''Double Subverted''':Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateTimeline. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
???
* '''Parodied''':There's a support group for characters whose dear ones have died but can't be resurrected, while ''everyone else'' can come back from the dead just fine.
???
* '''Zig Zagged''':Because of the finicky nature of time travel, sometimes Brian can or can't be saved.???
* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian,
* '''Exaggerated''':
* '''Downplayed''':
* '''Justified''':
* '''Inverted''':
* '''Subverted''':
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Zig Zagged''':
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** [[EverybodyLives Neither Brian nor anyone else important to Abigail dies to give her her motivation.]]
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* '''Enforced''': The author knows that allowing death to be trivially easy to undo cheapens the drama, so he applies YouCantFightFate to the setting. Time Travel / resurrection magic can't affect people who already have an important destiny nor those who put them on that road.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow, I spend my life looking for a way to go back in time and save my father, only to find one that works for ''everyone else'' but not him.
* '''Invoked''': Cathy, Abigail's mother, wants to keep her from opening an ethical can of worms by implying her messing with time like that might cause ClockRoaches to come and eat Brian.
* '''Exploited''': The SuperVillain Century-Aeon goes around murdering scientists who experiment with time travel so that their children will try to save them, just so he can taunt them that it's impossible.
* '''Defied''': As a child, Abigail discovers the reason her dad is alive is because she came from the future to save him. The mere ''threat'' of losing him is enough to motivate her, and the story focuses on her trying to close the StableTimeLoop with the help of her still living dad.
* '''Discussed''': "It's like Death has a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor sick sense of humor]], the more important someone is to you, the harder it is to bring them back."
* '''Conversed''': "Why would an author make undoing death so easy but not let the main character save those she loves most? That's stupid and cruel."
* '''Implied:''': Abigail suspects that the reason she and other self-made time travelers have this problem is that it stabilizes Time and reduces the odds of a TimeParadox.
* '''Deconstructed''': The cruel irony of a world with easy resurrections for everyone ''but'' those most likely to want them and best able to get them leads to Abigail doing a FaceHeelTurn and murdering people left and right in the cruel knowledge that none of it can be undone-- anyone clever enough to make a time machine to try and stop her, by definition, ''can't.''
* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Brian is Abigail's LivingMacGuffin, and every episode she tries a new zany time travel scheme to save him, only for it to fail comically.
* '''Played For Drama''': Abigail's continued failures leads to her despairing, only for her to smash her time machine-- which causes the accident that killed Brian in the first place.
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''': The author ''wants'' the audience to realize something screwy is going on, and launches into a plot arc about the behind-the-scenes manipulations of Century-Aeon to keep Abigail from saving Brian.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow, I spend my life looking for a way to go back in time and save my father, only to find one that works for ''everyone else'' but not him.
* '''Invoked''': Cathy, Abigail's mother, wants to keep her from opening an ethical can of worms by implying her messing with time like that might cause ClockRoaches to come and eat Brian.
* '''Exploited''': The SuperVillain Century-Aeon goes around murdering scientists who experiment with time travel so that their children will try to save them, just so he can taunt them that it's impossible.
* '''Defied''': As a child, Abigail discovers the reason her dad is alive is because she came from the future to save him. The mere ''threat'' of losing him is enough to motivate her, and the story focuses on her trying to close the StableTimeLoop with the help of her still living dad.
* '''Discussed''': "It's like Death has a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor sick sense of humor]], the more important someone is to you, the harder it is to bring them back."
* '''Conversed''': "Why would an author make undoing death so easy but not let the main character save those she loves most? That's stupid and cruel."
* '''Implied:''': Abigail suspects that the reason she and other self-made time travelers have this problem is that it stabilizes Time and reduces the odds of a TimeParadox.
* '''Deconstructed''': The cruel irony of a world with easy resurrections for everyone ''but'' those most likely to want them and best able to get them leads to Abigail doing a FaceHeelTurn and murdering people left and right in the cruel knowledge that none of it can be undone-- anyone clever enough to make a time machine to try and stop her, by definition, ''can't.''
* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Brian is Abigail's LivingMacGuffin, and every episode she tries a new zany time travel scheme to save him, only for it to fail comically.
* '''Played For Drama''': Abigail's continued failures leads to her despairing, only for her to smash her time machine-- which causes the accident that killed Brian in the first place.
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''': The author ''wants'' the audience to realize something screwy is going on, and launches into a plot arc about the behind-the-scenes manipulations of Century-Aeon to keep Abigail from saving Brian.
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* '''Enforced''': The author knows that allowing death executives adjusted Abigail's origin story to be trivially easy to undo cheapens the drama, so he applies YouCantFightFate to the setting. Time Travel / resurrection magic can't affect people who already have an important destiny nor those who put them on that road.
include a dead loved one, because they wanted more dramatic scenes (i.e., crying and wailing) for Abigail's actress.
* '''Lampshaded''':"Wow, I spend my life looking for a way to go back in time and save my father, only to find one that works for ''everyone else'' but not him.
???
* '''Invoked''':Cathy, Abigail's mother, wants to keep her from opening an ethical can of worms by implying her messing with time like that might cause ClockRoaches to come and eat Brian.
???
* '''Exploited''':The SuperVillain Century-Aeon goes around murdering scientists who experiment with time travel so that their children will try to save them, just so he can taunt them that it's impossible.
???
* '''Defied''':As a child, Abigail discovers the reason her dad is alive is because she came from the future to save him. The mere ''threat'' of losing him is enough to motivate her, and the story focuses on her trying to close the StableTimeLoop with the help of her still living dad.
???
* '''Discussed''':"It's like Death has a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor sick sense of humor]], ???
* '''Conversed''': "Authors nowadays really love this trope where themore important someone hero is to you, the harder it is to bring them back.who they are because of a dead loved one, huh."
* '''Conversed''': "Why would an author make undoing death so easy but not let the main character save those she loves most? That's stupid and cruel."
* '''Implied:''': Abigail suspects that the reason she and other self-made time travelers have this problem is that it stabilizes Time and reduces the odds of a TimeParadox.
???
* '''Deconstructed''':The cruel irony of a world with easy resurrections for everyone ''but'' those most likely to want them and best able to get them leads to Abigail doing is emotionally stunted due to a FaceHeelTurn and murdering people left and right in the cruel knowledge that none lack of it can be undone-- anyone clever enough to make fatherly affection. She became a time machine to try and stop her, by definition, ''can't.''
*hero because of her father's death, but not an effective one.
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''Played For Laughs''':Brian is Abigail's LivingMacGuffin, and every episode she tries a new zany time travel scheme to save him, only for it to fail comically.
???
* '''Played For Drama''':Abigail's continued failures leads to her despairing, only for her to smash her time machine-- which causes the accident that killed Brian in the first place.
???
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''':The author ''wants'' the audience to realize something screwy is going on, and launches into a plot arc about the behind-the-scenes manipulations of Century-Aeon to keep Abigail from saving Brian.???
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Exploited''':
* '''Defied''':
* '''Discussed''':
* '''Conversed''': "Authors nowadays really love this trope where the
* '''Deconstructed''':
*
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''Played For Laughs''':
* '''Played For Drama''':
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''':
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* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateDimension. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateDimension.AlternateTimeline. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
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* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so he has to remain dead.
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* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so [[DownerEnding he has to remain dead.]]
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** Neither Brian nor anyone else important to Abigail dies to give her her motivation.
** The life, death or resurrection of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
** The life, death or resurrection of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
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** [[EverybodyLives Neither Brian nor anyone else important to Abigail dies to give her her motivation.
motivation.]]
** The life,death [[CharacterDeath death]] or resurrection [[BackFromTheDead resurrection]] of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
** The life,
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'''Basic Trope''': A death that defines defines the protagonist's origin won't be undone.
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'''Basic Trope''': A death that defines defines the protagonist's origin won't be undone.
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** The life or death of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
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** The life or life, death or resurrection of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
* '''Implied:''': Abigail suspects that the reason she and other self-made time travelers have this problem is that it stabilizes Time and reduces the odds of a TimeParadox.
* '''Deconstructed''': The cruel irony of a world with easy resurrections for everyone ''but'' those most likely to want them and best able to get them leads to Abigail doing a FaceHeelTurn and murdering people left and right in the cruel knowledge that none of it can be undone-- anyone clever enough to make a time machine to try and stop her, by definition, ''can't.''
* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''': The author ''wants'' the audience to realize something screwy is going on, and launches into a plot arc about the behind-the-scenes manipulations of Century-Aeon to keep Abigail from saving Brian.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Brian is Abigail's LivingMacGuffin, and every episode she tries a new zany time travel scheme to save him, only for it to fail comically.
* '''Played For Drama''': Abigail's continued failures leads to her despairing, only for her to smash her time machine-- which causes the accident that killed Brian in the first place.
* '''Deconstructed''': The cruel irony of a world with easy resurrections for everyone ''but'' those most likely to want them and best able to get them leads to Abigail doing a FaceHeelTurn and murdering people left and right in the cruel knowledge that none of it can be undone-- anyone clever enough to make a time machine to try and stop her, by definition, ''can't.''
* '''Reconstructed''': Nothing is set in stone, Abigail can ScrewDestiny and save her dad... but doing so means she deprives the world of a working TimeMachine, and after looking around she realizes there's no one else who could replicate the discovery. She decides that, painful as it is, she must sacrifice her dream in order to honor her father's memory. Afterwards, she gains a level of inner peace, and becomes a more RoundedCharacter.
* '''IntendedAudienceReaction''': The author ''wants'' the audience to realize something screwy is going on, and launches into a plot arc about the behind-the-scenes manipulations of Century-Aeon to keep Abigail from saving Brian.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Brian is Abigail's LivingMacGuffin, and every episode she tries a new zany time travel scheme to save him, only for it to fail comically.
* '''Played For Drama''': Abigail's continued failures leads to her despairing, only for her to smash her time machine-- which causes the accident that killed Brian in the first place.
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'''Basic Trope''': A death that defines defines the protagonist's origin won't be undone.
* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so he has to remain dead.
* '''Exaggerated''': Abigail perfects time travel after her father's death to save him, and manages to save countless of secondary and incidental characters using Time Travel but because of a poorly contrived TimeyWimeyBall Brian has to stay dead.
* '''Downplayed''': Abigail visits an AlternateUniverse where Brian is still alive. She decides that knowing he's alive ''somewhere'' is enough and stops torturing herself.
* '''Justified''': The way TimeTravel works makes it a practical impossibility to rescue Brian in any way.
* '''Inverted''': As soon as Abigail decides to dedicate her life to perfecting Time Travel to save Brian, it's already as good as happened and a future version of herself appears with a time-displaced version of Brian, who is instrumental in helping Abigal perfect Time Travel.
* '''Subverted''': Abigail manages to save Brian, and she goes on to become a more compelling character now that she has to deal with the emotional transition of having a now living father who is ''younger'' than she is living in the present. Brian, for his part, is a FishOutOfWater who alternates gratitude and resentment at being saved against his will.
* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateDimension. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
* '''Parodied''': There's a support group for characters whose dear ones have died but can't be resurrected, while ''everyone else'' can come back from the dead just fine.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Because of the finicky nature of time travel, sometimes Brian can or can't be saved.
* '''Averted''':
** Neither Brian nor anyone else important to Abigail dies to give her her motivation.
** The life or death of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
* '''Enforced''': The author knows that allowing death to be trivially easy to undo cheapens the drama, so he applies YouCantFightFate to the setting. Time Travel / resurrection magic can't affect people who already have an important destiny nor those who put them on that road.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow, I spend my life looking for a way to go back in time and save my father, only to find one that works for ''everyone else'' but not him.
* '''Invoked''': Cathy, Abigail's mother, wants to keep her from opening an ethical can of worms by implying her messing with time like that might cause ClockRoaches to come and eat Brian.
* '''Exploited''': The SuperVillain Century-Aeon goes around murdering scientists who experiment with time travel so that their children will try to save them, just so he can taunt them that it's impossible.
* '''Defied''': As a child, Abigail discovers the reason her dad is alive is because she came from the future to save him. The mere ''threat'' of losing him is enough to motivate her, and the story focuses on her trying to close the StableTimeLoop with the help of her still living dad.
* '''Discussed''': "It's like Death has a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor sick sense of humor]], the more important someone is to you, the harder it is to bring them back."
* '''Conversed''': "Why would an author make undoing death so easy but not let the main character save those she loves most? That's stupid and cruel."
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
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* '''Straight''': The death of Abigail's father, Brian, due to a TimeTravel experiment gone wrong makes her dedicate her life to perfecting his technology to save him. Once she does so, she realizes that if she saves him neither of them would have the necessary desperate inspiration or drive to solve the problems and there would be no StableTimeLoop, so he has to remain dead.
* '''Exaggerated''': Abigail perfects time travel after her father's death to save him, and manages to save countless of secondary and incidental characters using Time Travel but because of a poorly contrived TimeyWimeyBall Brian has to stay dead.
* '''Downplayed''': Abigail visits an AlternateUniverse where Brian is still alive. She decides that knowing he's alive ''somewhere'' is enough and stops torturing herself.
* '''Justified''': The way TimeTravel works makes it a practical impossibility to rescue Brian in any way.
* '''Inverted''': As soon as Abigail decides to dedicate her life to perfecting Time Travel to save Brian, it's already as good as happened and a future version of herself appears with a time-displaced version of Brian, who is instrumental in helping Abigal perfect Time Travel.
* '''Subverted''': Abigail manages to save Brian, and she goes on to become a more compelling character now that she has to deal with the emotional transition of having a now living father who is ''younger'' than she is living in the present. Brian, for his part, is a FishOutOfWater who alternates gratitude and resentment at being saved against his will.
* '''Double Subverted''': Time Travel can't change the past, only create an AlternateDimension. The original/adult Abigail who saved Brian never gets to live her childhood with him.
* '''Parodied''': There's a support group for characters whose dear ones have died but can't be resurrected, while ''everyone else'' can come back from the dead just fine.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Because of the finicky nature of time travel, sometimes Brian can or can't be saved.
* '''Averted''':
** Neither Brian nor anyone else important to Abigail dies to give her her motivation.
** The life or death of Brian has no effect on Abigail as a character.
* '''Enforced''': The author knows that allowing death to be trivially easy to undo cheapens the drama, so he applies YouCantFightFate to the setting. Time Travel / resurrection magic can't affect people who already have an important destiny nor those who put them on that road.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow, I spend my life looking for a way to go back in time and save my father, only to find one that works for ''everyone else'' but not him.
* '''Invoked''': Cathy, Abigail's mother, wants to keep her from opening an ethical can of worms by implying her messing with time like that might cause ClockRoaches to come and eat Brian.
* '''Exploited''': The SuperVillain Century-Aeon goes around murdering scientists who experiment with time travel so that their children will try to save them, just so he can taunt them that it's impossible.
* '''Defied''': As a child, Abigail discovers the reason her dad is alive is because she came from the future to save him. The mere ''threat'' of losing him is enough to motivate her, and the story focuses on her trying to close the StableTimeLoop with the help of her still living dad.
* '''Discussed''': "It's like Death has a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor sick sense of humor]], the more important someone is to you, the harder it is to bring them back."
* '''Conversed''': "Why would an author make undoing death so easy but not let the main character save those she loves most? That's stupid and cruel."
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