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** Just for an idea of how horrifying the Dread Masters are; the Sith leading the Imperial forces was considered so sadistic and violent that the Dark Council refused to promote him [[EvenEvilHasStandards out of disgust]]. Just being in their presence is enough to send him into a gibbering and broken HeelRealization.


* On Ord Mantell, the Seperatists kidnap children and drug them into a killing frenzy. One of these children the player meets has spent years in a drugged haze and will rant about how he and the other kids will and eat the player before the drugs finally wear off. He's so horrified and ashamed by the atrocities he was made to commit that he asks the player to tell his parents he's dead. The Seperatists also rob refugees or simply snipe them as they try to escape the encroaching war. Meanwhile, the Republic routinely abducts random civilians for torture on the mere suggestion they might have been working for the Seperatists. The Republic soldiers also force refugees to run through minefields for their amusement in the hopes of being given basic supplies such as food and medicine. It's no wonder the Ethics Officer is drinking himself to death in a cantina - he even calls the Republic Army an "army of degenerates."

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* On Ord Mantell, the Seperatists Separatists kidnap children and drug them into a killing frenzy. One of these children the player meets has spent years in a drugged haze and will rant about how he and the other kids will and eat the player before the drugs finally wear off. He's so horrified and ashamed by the atrocities he was made to commit that he asks the player to tell his parents he's dead. The Seperatists Separatists also rob refugees or simply snipe them as they try to escape the encroaching war. Meanwhile, the Republic routinely abducts random civilians for torture on the mere suggestion they might have been working for the Seperatists.Separatists. The Republic soldiers also force refugees to run through minefields for their amusement in the hopes of being given basic supplies such as food and medicine. It's no wonder the Ethics Officer is drinking himself to death in a cantina - he even calls the Republic Army an "army of degenerates."

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* Darth Zash's plan for the Inquisitor is unnerving to say the least. She deceives them into collecting rare artifacts from across the galaxy, promising the Inquisitor great power, and yet it's revealed at the end of Chapter One that Zash is actually rotting and decaying and plans on using the artifacts to drain the inquisitor's consciousness and take their body in hopes of preserving her youth and/or achieving immortality.


** That being said, many people feel compelled to go through with it [[KickTheSonOfTheBitch because Zakuulan culture is its own brand of evil.]] Zakuulan culture has two classes: the majority, who are effectively the rich elite who want for nothing and have every need catered to them and [[KarmaHoudini have no consequences for their actions;]] and the underworld people who live in the Old World and Breaktown (if they've not been exiled to the swamps). The majority don't give a damn about the latter, [[GoodIsBoring allowing them to suffer so they can watch their life and death fights for amusement.]] The ones who are down in the underworlds? They'll even suffer as beggers on the street being harassed by doomsday cultists, or trying to join and/or are part of said cults because that's the only way to live decently down there. And this is how they treat their own people. The rest of the galaxy is under their heel and treated like garbage in comparison to say it mildly. Destroying the galactic economy and self-determination are just the tip of the ice berg. This is best summed up by Koth's opinion on Zakuul and Valkorion. He doesn't care that the Sith Emperor was evil to everyone else, he was also good to Zakuul and that's what matters. With all of that context, and being declared a terrorist already because Valkorion arranged that to happen, the only reason not to do it is for the principle of the matter of saving lives. All that does is that the people of Zakuul, not the military or government, still get away with their bigotted self-entitled ways. GoodFeelsGood or GoodIsStupid? You decide. Either way, it doesn't change that Zakuulan culture is a dark, dark place.

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** That being said, many people feel compelled to go through with it [[KickTheSonOfTheBitch [[KickTheSonOfABitch because Zakuulan culture is its own brand of evil.]] Zakuulan culture has two classes: the majority, who are effectively the rich elite who want for nothing and have every need catered to them and [[KarmaHoudini have no consequences for their actions;]] and the underworld people who live in the Old World and Breaktown (if they've not been exiled to the swamps). The majority don't give a damn about the latter, [[GoodIsBoring allowing them to suffer so they can watch their life and death fights for amusement.]] The ones who are down in the underworlds? They'll even suffer as beggers on the street being harassed by doomsday cultists, or trying to join and/or are part of said cults because that's the only way to live decently down there. And this is how they treat their own people. The rest of the galaxy is under their heel and treated like garbage in comparison to say it mildly. Destroying the galactic economy and self-determination are just the tip of the ice berg. This is best summed up by Koth's opinion on Zakuul and Valkorion. He doesn't care that the Sith Emperor was evil to everyone else, he was also good to Zakuul and that's what matters. With all of that context, and being declared a terrorist already because Valkorion arranged that to happen, the only reason not to do it is for the principle of the matter of saving lives. All that does is that the people of Zakuul, not the military or government, still get away with their bigotted self-entitled ways. GoodFeelsGood or GoodIsStupid? GoodIsDumb? You decide. Either way, it doesn't change that Zakuulan culture is a dark, dark place.

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** That being said, many people feel compelled to go through with it [[KickTheSonOfTheBitch because Zakuulan culture is its own brand of evil.]] Zakuulan culture has two classes: the majority, who are effectively the rich elite who want for nothing and have every need catered to them and [[KarmaHoudini have no consequences for their actions;]] and the underworld people who live in the Old World and Breaktown (if they've not been exiled to the swamps). The majority don't give a damn about the latter, [[GoodIsBoring allowing them to suffer so they can watch their life and death fights for amusement.]] The ones who are down in the underworlds? They'll even suffer as beggers on the street being harassed by doomsday cultists, or trying to join and/or are part of said cults because that's the only way to live decently down there. And this is how they treat their own people. The rest of the galaxy is under their heel and treated like garbage in comparison to say it mildly. Destroying the galactic economy and self-determination are just the tip of the ice berg. This is best summed up by Koth's opinion on Zakuul and Valkorion. He doesn't care that the Sith Emperor was evil to everyone else, he was also good to Zakuul and that's what matters. With all of that context, and being declared a terrorist already because Valkorion arranged that to happen, the only reason not to do it is for the principle of the matter of saving lives. All that does is that the people of Zakuul, not the military or government, still get away with their bigotted self-entitled ways. GoodFeelsGood or GoodIsStupid? You decide. Either way, it doesn't change that Zakuulan culture is a dark, dark place.


* At the end, Scourge and Kira finally make their return, coming to ask for the Alliance Commander's help with Tenebrae's last weapon, a ritual that cut power into his very flesh. So long as his original body remained intact, he couldn't be killed--so they destryoed it shortly before the Outlander killed Valkorion in Eternal Throne. Doing so, however, released a sort of dark-side disease that rendered them comatose for over a year before they were rescued. But they were lucky--having already hosted part of his power, they're somewhat resistant to it, with Scourge explicitly comparing it to a vaccine. Satele Shan and those who came with her to rescue the, however, are not so fortunate: they're infected by a disease that seems to be linkingthem into a horrible dark side entity hive mind, perhaps even yet another failsafe by the Emperor to cheat death and bring himself back.

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* At the end, Scourge and Kira finally make their return, coming to ask for the Alliance Commander's help with Tenebrae's last weapon, a ritual that cut power into his very flesh. So long as his original body remained intact, he couldn't be killed--so they destryoed destroyed it shortly before the Outlander killed Valkorion in Eternal Throne. Doing so, however, released a sort of dark-side disease that rendered them comatose for over a year before they were rescued. But they were lucky--having already hosted part of his power, they're somewhat resistant to it, with Scourge explicitly comparing it to a vaccine. But Satele Shan and those who came with her to rescue the, however, them are not so fortunate: they're infected by a disease that seems to be linkingthem linking them into a horrible dark side entity hive mind, perhaps even yet another failsafe by the Emperor to cheat death and bring himself back.

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** The Onslaught expansion shows that as long as his original body existed in statis he could not be fully killed, so the player's actions would have been for nothing if it had not been for Kira and Lord Scourge killing that body off-screen. Even so, the possibility exists that he could resurrect himself through the Plague that has been unleashed.


** It gets worse considering the new secrets revealed in later expansions. Vitiate used the Iokath supercomputer/superweapon Zildrog as part of the ritual that killed practically everything on Nathema and make himself immortal. He can possess multiple bodies (the Voices/Valkorian/the Outlander), and even act without a physical body as proven on Yavin in the Revan expansion, as well as destroy an entire world like Ziost in this same disembodied state. The implications become even more disturbing with these new revelations. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence What did he become]]? A more evolved Force Ghost? A Force Ghost Parasite? After his final defeat, Nathema got the Force restored to it and life grew back rather quickly, which means he was leeching off of the entire planet and the Force that was linked to it to maintain his immortality. Are there more Iokath weapons like Zildrog on other hidden worlds? Scourge knew some of the Emperor's secrets about this immortality, what would happen if those secrets got out again? Word of God may have claimed that he is gone for good, but that could change anytime just for gaming reasons alone, plus there is also Ziost, is he really gone or does he have a new anchor(s) and is hiding so deep in the galaxy that no one can sense him even in the Force?

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** It gets worse considering the new secrets revealed in later expansions. Vitiate used the Iokath supercomputer/superweapon Zildrog as part of the ritual that killed practically everything on Nathema and make himself immortal. He can possess multiple bodies (the Voices/Valkorian/the Outlander), and even act without a physical body as proven on Yavin in the Revan expansion, as well as destroy an entire world like Ziost in this same disembodied state. The implications become even more disturbing with these new revelations. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence What did he become]]? A more evolved Force Ghost? A Force Ghost Parasite? After his final defeat, Nathema got the Force restored to it and life grew back rather quickly, which means he was leeching off of the entire planet and the Force that was linked to it to maintain his immortality. Are there more Iokath weapons like Zildrog on other hidden worlds? Scourge knew some of the Emperor's secrets about this immortality, what would happen if those secrets got out again? Word of God may have claimed that he is gone for good, but that could change anytime just for gaming reasons alone, plus there is also Ziost, is he really gone or does he have a new anchor(s) and is hiding so deep in the galaxy that no one can sense him even in the Force?

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* At the end, Scourge and Kira finally make their return, coming to ask for the Alliance Commander's help with Tenebrae's last weapon, a ritual that cut power into his very flesh. So long as his original body remained intact, he couldn't be killed--so they destryoed it shortly before the Outlander killed Valkorion in Eternal Throne. Doing so, however, released a sort of dark-side disease that rendered them comatose for over a year before they were rescued. But they were lucky--having already hosted part of his power, they're somewhat resistant to it, with Scourge explicitly comparing it to a vaccine. Satele Shan and those who came with her to rescue the, however, are not so fortunate: they're infected by a disease that seems to be linkingthem into a horrible dark side entity hive mind, perhaps even yet another failsafe by the Emperor to cheat death and bring himself back.

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** For those who follow the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' continuity, which ''The Old Republic'' is classified under due to being a semi-sequel to the [[VideoGame/{{KnightsOfTheOldRepublic}} KOTOR]] [[VideoGame/{{KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords}} series]], the Rakghouls are ''even more horrifying'' due to their origins. They're the fault of the Sith Lord Karness Muur, created through Sith Alchemy for the purpose of helping Muur cheat death and forge an unstoppable army. To do this he channeled Dark Side energies into an ArtifactOfDoom called the Muur Talisman that cases non-force sensitive beings in its proximity to be changed to Rakghouls ''instantly'' so that they may start to spread the plague. Its presence in Taris' undercity is the cause of the "original" Rakghoul plague due to some poor fool, likely seeing the ornate golden talisman and hoping it could be their ticket out of the undercity, getting too close to the lost Sith artifact and becoming the first victim of the new plague. To make matters ''even worse'', the Talisman won't be destroyed, ending the Rakghoul plague forever, until ''137 ABY.''[[labelnote:*]]After the [[Film/{{ANewHope}} Battle of Yavin]][[/labelnote]] ''The Old Republic'' roughly takes place in the year 3653 ''BBY'' [[labelnote:*]]''Before'' the [[Film/{{ANewHope}} Battle of Yavin]][[/labelnote]], which means the Rakghoul plague will still scourge the galaxy for another ''3790 years.'' And given the nature of [=MMOs=] it wouldn't be unrealistic to think that a Flashpoint or even an entire expansion could be based around the Muur Talisman. It ''is'' still out there in the galaxy ''[[ParanoiaFuel somewhere]]'' after all.

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* Vector's story is terrifying, especially in how it's not even framed as such. An Imperial Intelligence project arranged his Joining to the Killiks for the purpose of studying them further. Go back up and read about what the Killiks do under the "General" folder. He claims to not regret the result of this act, and when romanced is apparently able to suppress his connection to the Hive for a time, but... We have a character who has become a member of a group who are not just MindRaped, but anyone who read the Literature/DarkNestTrilogy (their first major appearance and source of their presentation at the time of the publication of the game) knows that the more time that one spends as a Joiner, the harder it is to accept not being a Joiner. The Imperial Agent spends an entire Act devoted to breaking free of mind control. Vector does not even believe he's been subjected to it. And no one really acts as though it is.

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**** Breathe a little easier: According to Franchise/StarWarsLegends, the Killiks had died out on Alderaan long before the Death Star showed up. The bad news? They finally reappeared in modern galactic times during the Literature/DarkNestTrilogy, and pull in several Jedi to their hive, among them Jaina Solo, the daughter of Han and Leia (in that continuity). No word yet of Killiks in the current Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse, though...

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*** Though that is arguably more annoying than horrfying, considering that a reasonably well equipped character can easily beat Arcann if it were not for the cutscenes forcing you to lose.


%% * A meta-example, but if playing a pure-blood Sith, the 'social ability' involves slapping your active companion across the face.



* A meta-example, but if played by a pure-blood Sith, the 'social ability' involves slapping Vette across the face. While domestic abuse may be the least of the Warrior's crimes (depending on the player's choices), it is still very unpleasant to watch, particularly if the player has romanced Vette.


** A meta-example, but using the Warrior's 'social ability' involves slapping Vette across the face. While domestic abuse may be the least of the Warrior's crimes (depending on the player's choices), it is still very unpleasant to watch.

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** * A meta-example, but using if played by a pure-blood Sith, the Warrior's 'social ability' involves slapping Vette across the face. While domestic abuse may be the least of the Warrior's crimes (depending on the player's choices), it is still very unpleasant to watch.watch, particularly if the player has romanced Vette.

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