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** The thirty-plus years he kept Vincent [[spoiler: to experiment on him, turning him into an immortal shape shifter trapped in a coffin until Cloud and Co. freed him.]]

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** The thirty-plus years he kept Vincent [[spoiler: to experiment on him, turning him into an immortal shape shifter trapped in a coffin until Cloud and Co. freed him.]]



** There's not just what he did that's terrifying, but also [[spoiler:what he turns into during your boss battle against him. [[http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120723004344/finalfantasy/images/d/d8/Helletic-Hojo-full-ffvii.png Say hello to Helletic Hojo]]. His third form crosses the BishonenLine, so it's not as scary, but his second form wouldn't look out of place in ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'']].

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** There's not just what he did that's terrifying, but also [[spoiler:what what he turns into during your boss battle against him. [[http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120723004344/finalfantasy/images/d/d8/Helletic-Hojo-full-ffvii.png Say hello to Helletic Hojo]]. His third form crosses the BishonenLine, so it's not as scary, but his second form wouldn't look out of place in ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'']].''Franchise/ResidentEvil''.



** Did he ever truly love or even ''care for'' Lucrecia, or did he just see her as an incubator for his latest project? Did Lucrecia do this willingly or did he string her along with false affection and obfuscate what the end results would be? [[spoiler: Sadly, Lucrecia did agree to experimenting on her unborn son, but she never knew exactly how bad things would turn out to be...]]

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** Did he ever truly love or even ''care for'' Lucrecia, or did he just see her as an incubator for his latest project? Did Lucrecia do this willingly or did he string her along with false affection and obfuscate what the end results would be? [[spoiler: Sadly, Lucrecia did agree to experimenting on her unborn son, but she never knew exactly how bad things would turn out to be...]]



** [[spoiler:It's "the real Cloud" that Cloud encounters, his true self inside of him that's not acting upon a combination of Zack's memories and JENOVA cells. He speaks to Cloud at other points in the game as a voice inside his head. In this particular "conversation", he's telling the outer Cloud that he can't run away from his past because "it's started moving again." "It" referring to JENOVA.]]

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** [[spoiler:It's It's "the real Cloud" that Cloud encounters, his true self inside of him that's not acting upon a combination of Zack's memories and JENOVA cells. He speaks to Cloud at other points in the game as a voice inside his head. In this particular "conversation", he's telling the outer Cloud that he can't run away from his past because "it's started moving again." "It" referring to JENOVA.]]



* ''Dyne''. In Barret's flashback, he's the kindest, most loveable father you could meet. Now? [[spoiler:He's a batshit insane OmnicidalManiac.]] When you meet up with him in person, [[spoiler:Barrett duels him and tries to snap Dyne out of it. Dyne does come to his senses, but he's so stricken with grief that he ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''.]]
** Oh, he's not just [[spoiler:gone insane]], he starts to talk about [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon killing Marlene to take her back to her mother.]] It's enough to push [[PapaWolf Barret]] into the fight at last, when at the start of the scene he was so unwilling to kill his best friend that he just stood there and let himself get shot.]]

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* ''Dyne''. In Barret's flashback, he's the kindest, most loveable father you could meet. Now? [[spoiler:He's He's a batshit insane OmnicidalManiac.]] OmnicidalManiac. When you meet up with him in person, [[spoiler:Barrett Barrett duels him and tries to snap Dyne out of it. Dyne does come to his senses, but he's so stricken with grief that he ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''.]]
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** Oh, he's not just [[spoiler:gone insane]], gone insane, he starts to talk about [[spoiler:[[MoralEventHorizon [[MoralEventHorizon killing Marlene to take her back to her mother.]] It's enough to push [[PapaWolf Barret]] into the fight at last, when at the start of the scene he was so unwilling to kill his best friend that he just stood there and let himself get shot.]]



* During the latter half of the game, whenever you walk into the overworld map, you're greeted by [[spoiler: the haunting sight of Meteor in the sky as it's approaching the planet, accompanied by The Great Northern Cave, a low key, ominous tune that really sinks in the feeling that the whole world is doomed and fighting it is only delaying the inevitable.]]

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* During the latter half of the game, whenever you walk into the overworld map, you're greeted by [[spoiler: the haunting sight of Meteor in the sky as it's approaching the planet, accompanied by The Great Northern Cave, a low key, ominous tune that really sinks in the feeling that the whole world is doomed and fighting it is only delaying the inevitable.]]


!Dirge of Cerberus
* Vincent's backstory is both [[NightmareFuel horrifying]] and [[TearJerker sad]]. There's one flashback scene in ''Dirge of Cerberus'' in which we see Vincent locked in a test tube, just after being infused with the Chaos Gene. It ''does'' keep his body from decaying and returning to the Planet, but its overwhelming power means that Vincent can't control it on his own. Cue the transformed Vincent clawing and banging against the glass, growling and hissing as Lucrecia's panic increases. Had she not implanted him with the Proto-Materia in time...
** There's also a short scene from the original game recreated in ''Dirge'' of Vincent waking up on the operating table - and discovers his Galian Beast form. Cue bloodcurdling scream.
** After the Shinra Mansion stage in ''Dirge'', Vincent's Proto-Materia ([[PowerLimiter the one thing that keeps Vincent's will from being overtaken by Chaos]]) is stolen. He almost immediately starts to spasm and writhe in pain. Later on, while aboard the Shera, from Vincent's perspective, Chaos very much wants out (the screen is washed over red and blurred), but Vincent manages to muster enough strength to restrain himself. When he regains full consciousness, there are huge claw marks on the wall.
*** This ties back to the original game. What's Vincent's reaction when he learns his final Limit Break, Chaos? "I'm becoming less human..."


!Crisis Core
* ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' recreates the game's famous Nibelheim disaster with better 3D. And a SpookyPainting of a girl in Zack & Cloud's room. Despite not doing anything (that we know of) walking up to it prompts you to push X to examine it. Whereupon Zack will comment on how creepy it is. No other paintings in the room are considered noteworthy enough for examination.
* The Genesis Copies. These were [=SOLDIERs=], regular guys, that got injected with just a bit of Genesis' cells, stuffed in Mako tanks, and get turned into mindless drones, stripped of everything that give them their individuality, even their physical appearance, in a process that is potentially very painful. Gah. Made even worse when you think that, when [[spoiler:Genesis first deserted Shinra, the [=SOLDIERs=] he took with him came of their own free will out of loyalty to him and ''they were the ones that wound up as the Copies'']]. And some fans say Genesis isn't that evil.
* In the final mission and also the final area of the game (Banora Underground), you can see a shoulder of Emerald Weapon sticking out of a large formation of crystal.


** And pertaining to the above, the drastic actions that Shinra take when they cause the Sector 7 Plate of Midgar to drop onto the slums below, killing two city's worth of people in the span of half a minute. No evacuation notices, no warnings, no damns given by any of the executives besides [[TokenGoodTeammate Reeve]] (to the point of Palmer clamoring for a ''tax hike''). It's bad enough that countless lives were sacrificed just to (fail to) wipe out AVALANCHE, but then you realize exactly why President Shinra is so damn blasé about it without even being concerned for two bombed reactors: ''[[AndIMustScream all those deaths just made more Mako fuel for the company.]]'' These people would genocide the world if there was a profit to be made, and not even flinch!

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** And pertaining to the above, the drastic actions that Shinra take when they cause the Sector 7 Plate of Midgar to drop onto the slums below, killing two city's town's worth of people in the span of half a minute. No evacuation notices, no warnings, no damns given by any of the executives besides [[TokenGoodTeammate Reeve]] (to the point of Palmer clamoring for a ''tax hike''). It's bad enough that countless lives were sacrificed just to (fail to) wipe out AVALANCHE, but then you realize exactly why President Shinra is so damn blasé about it without even being concerned for two bombed reactors: ''[[AndIMustScream all those deaths just made more Mako fuel for the company.]]'' These people would genocide the world if there was a profit to be made, and not even flinch!

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** And pertaining to the above, the drastic actions that Shinra take when they cause the Sector 7 Plate of Midgar to drop onto the slums below, killing two city's worth of people in the span of half a minute. No evacuation notices, no warnings, no damns given by any of the executives besides [[TokenGoodTeammate Reeve]] (to the point of Palmer clamoring for a ''tax hike''). It's bad enough that countless lives were sacrificed just to (fail to) wipe out AVALANCHE, but then you realize exactly why President Shinra is so damn blasé about it without even being concerned for two bombed reactors: ''[[AndIMustScream all those deaths just made more Mako fuel for the company.]]'' These people would genocide the world if there was a profit to be made, and not even flinch!


** The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mentioned if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.

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** The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mentioned if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and along with everything on it.

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* The Sephiroth Clones in general. In a game full of bright polygonal characters they stand out for being dark, formless blobs that have no distinguishing features whatsoever. They first appear in Nibelheim, mumbling about Sephiroth, but as the game goes on they degrade worse and worse until, near the end of disc one, several of the clones walking to the reunion suddenly keel over and die for positively no reason, and to make things worse as they block your path when you try to interact with them to move them they convulse and then suddenly disappear. Just before this you also see one of them commit suicide, as it jumps off the cliffside right before you can reach them.


* The fact Shinra Inc. essentially runs the world as an autocratic megacorporation with a mixture of resource dependency, military might that includes genetic monstrosities and dangerous supersoldiers, puppet rulers using controllable authority figures, extensively streamed propaganda, and espionage agents that secretly stamp out any dissent is pretty terrifying for the average citizen especially since Shinra is run by corrupt corporate sociopaths who only care about power and profit and will sacrifice entire towns of people at their leisure.

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* The fact Shinra Inc. essentially runs the world as an autocratic megacorporation with a mixture of resource dependency, military might that includes genetic monstrosities and dangerous supersoldiers, puppet rulers using controllable authority figures, extensively streamed propaganda, and espionage agents that secretly stamp out any dissent is pretty terrifying for the average citizen especially since Shinra is run by corrupt corporate sociopaths who only care about power and profit and will sacrifice entire towns of people at their leisure. Worse off, there are genuinely benevolent people like Zack Fair and Cissnei working for Shinra Inc. that have been manipulated into believing the company is for the best for bringing its own form of progress to many despite its many questionable practices, making them work against others who want to be free of Shinra's influence until it's too late.


* The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mentioned if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.

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* The fact Shinra Inc. essentially runs the world as an autocratic megacorporation with a mixture of resource dependency, military might that includes genetic monstrosities and dangerous supersoldiers, puppet rulers using controllable authority figures, extensively streamed propaganda, and espionage agents that secretly stamp out any dissent is pretty terrifying for the average citizen especially since Shinra is run by corrupt corporate sociopaths who only care about power and profit and will sacrifice entire towns of people at their leisure.
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The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mentioned if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.


* [[MadScientist ''Hojo'']]. What's wrong with him? Well...

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* [[MadScientist ''Hojo'']].'''[[MadScientist Hojo]]'''. What's wrong with him? Well...


* [[MadScientist '''Hojo''']]. What's wrong with him? Well...

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* [[MadScientist '''Hojo''']].''Hojo'']]. What's wrong with him? Well...


* [[MadScientist Hojo]]. What's wrong with him? Well...
** After the Nibelheim fire, he kidnaps its survivors, including Zack and Cloud, and subjects them to experiments for four years. Only Zack and Cloud make it out with any semblance of sanity left.

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* [[MadScientist Hojo]].'''Hojo''']]. What's wrong with him? Well...
** After the Nibelheim fire, he kidnaps its survivors, including Zack and Cloud, and subjects them to horrible experiments for four years. Only Zack and Cloud make it out with any semblance of sanity left.



** Hojo really is the king of all assholes in ''Final Fantasy VII''. Not only does he have no ethical standards at all, he's insane to the point of self-destruction and is the father of the BigBad who also wants to wipe out everything. At some point, he figures out the truth of what Jenova actually is (by the time he starts rambling about Reunion Theory), and he simply does not care.
** Not to mention Hojo tried to ''mate'' Aerith and Red XIII as an "attempt to save both races from extinction". It's best not to think about the details.

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** Hojo really is the king of all assholes in ''Final Fantasy VII''.VII'' and that's saying something. Not only does he have no ethical standards at all, he's insane to the point of self-destruction and is the father of the BigBad who also wants to wipe out everything. At some point, he figures out the truth of what Jenova actually is and what it would mean for him and the planet (by the time he starts rambling about Reunion Theory), and he simply does not care.
** Not to mention Hojo tried to ''mate'' Aerith and Red XIII for an experiment as an "attempt to save both races from extinction". [[BestialityIsDepraved It's best not to think about the details.]]


* The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mention if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.

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* The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mention mentioned if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.

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* The revelation that the Shinra Electric Power Company uses machines built to forcibly extract the Lifestream from the earth and process it into efficient and ubiquitous Mako energy and effectively run the world turns nightmarish when you realize the Lifestream is essentially the mass of the souls of all living organisms (including their memories, emotions, and knowledge) generated and funneled into the Planet as its source of Life. Shinra had been converting the souls of humanity into fuel for profit and this had been going on for decades! Not to mention the fact it was mention if Shinra kept depleting the Lifestream's energy then the Planet would atrophy and essentially die and everything on it.


*** It gets even worse: ''A sewer where Don Corneo's gigantic man-eating monster pet Rapps lives!'' All of this points to the revelation that Don Corneo is a serial-killing rapist who preys on trios of women, gives two to his thugs to be ravaged and never seen again, and picks each of his ''brides'' to be fed to his pet monster when he is finished with them and the fact he's been at this for a while with no one stopping him beforehand showcases how horrible the setting really is.

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*** It gets even worse: ''A sewer where Don Corneo's gigantic man-eating monster pet Rapps lives!'' lives!''
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All of this points to the revelation that Don Corneo is a serial-killing rapist who preys on trios of women, gives two to his thugs to be ravaged and never seen again, and picks each of his ''brides'' to be fed to his pet monster when he is finished with them and the fact he's been at this for a while with no one stopping him beforehand showcases how horrible the setting really is.

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