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** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought ''twice'' about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do. And worse, part of her still wants him badly enough that it is ''willing'' to let him do whatever the Mantle prompts to her.
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** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought ''twice'' about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do. And worse, part of her still wants him badly enough that it is she’s ''willing'' to let him do whatever the Mantle prompts to her.
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* Nemesis "[[DemonicPossession assuming direct control]]" over Cat Sith. As in, Nemesis turns [[FightingFromTheInside a violently spasming Sith]] into a completely still EmptyShell through MindRape so as to have a MeatPuppet to kill Harry with. In particular, the description of the "smug, contemptuous self-assurance" in Sith's eyes being just ''gone'' is utterly chilling along with how "Not-Sith" [[UncannyValley turns Sith's head towards Harry in a graceless manner]] while speaking in a voice "[[CreepyMonotone completely devoid of anything like personality]]."
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* Nemesis "[[DemonicPossession assuming direct control]]" over Cat Sith. As in, Nemesis turns [[FightingFromTheInside a violently spasming Sith]] into a completely still EmptyShell through MindRape so as to have a MeatPuppet to kill Harry with. In particular, the description of the "smug, contemptuous self-assurance" in Sith's eyes being just ''gone'' is utterly chilling along with how "Not-Sith" [[UncannyValley turns Sith's head towards Harry in a graceless manner]] manner while speaking in a voice "[[CreepyMonotone completely devoid of anything like personality]]."
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* After his dismal failure at summoning Mother Winter, Mother Summer shows Harry [[EldritchLocation the Outer Gates]]. It's the literal ''border of reality'' where TheFairFolk wage a ForeverWar against [[EldritchAbomination the Outsiders]], and is described as looking like the Western Front of World War I cranked UpToEleven. Suffice to say, what shortly follows Harry's full realization of what's at stake are easily the four most haunting words in the entire series.
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* After his dismal failure at summoning Mother Winter, Mother Summer shows Harry [[EldritchLocation the Outer Gates]]. It's the literal ''border of reality'' where TheFairFolk wage a ForeverWar against [[EldritchAbomination the Outsiders]], and is described as looking like the Western Front of World War I cranked UpToEleven.up to eleven. Suffice to say, what shortly follows Harry's full realization of what's at stake are easily the four most haunting words in the entire series.
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** Making it worse is that without all the supernatural trappings, a crazed gunman scenario like this [[AdultFear is actually quite the viable scenario in real life]].
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** Making it worse is that without all the supernatural trappings, a crazed gunman scenario like this [[AdultFear is actually quite the viable scenario in real life]].life.
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** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in the Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely a favor by the Mothers.[[/note]]
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** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, waged since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in the Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he Harry came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely just a favor by the Mothers.Mothers and the timescale might actually be slanted in ''favor'' of the mortal realm.[[/note]]
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** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely a favor by the Mothers.[[/note]]
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** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in the Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely a favor by the Mothers.[[/note]]
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* When Harry is shown the the border of reality and the fairies fighting the outsiders. It looks like a WWI Battlefield and makes every threat ever faced in the books look tiny.
** The timescale is also horrifying. The battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates passes much much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting and dying, falling back and losing ground the defenders of the gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.
*** Actually, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much faster in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it this was likely a favor by the Mothers.
** The really horrifying thing? The one that had me feel like someone was hitting my brain's pressure points when I thought of it? An offhand comment Thomas made in ''Backup'', in the light of this new knowledge. He says that they almost wiped out the Fae, but "The G-Men" (aka, the Grimm Brothers and Gutenburg - he being the inventor of the printing press) stopped them. '''Imagine what would have happened if they succeeded'''. I don't think the Outsiders besieging the Outer Gates would have gone away nicely when their opponents faded away, do you? Even if an appropriate replacement could have been found, one with both the will and capacity - there is always confusion when one fighting force is pulling out, and another replacing it. Add to that the fact that the fairies would have had to either break contact for their replacements to step in, or fight until they disappear and have their replacements waiting behind them the entire time, a steady reminder of their own inevitable fate - it would have been a slaughter at a critical moment of weakness. And that's ''best case'', assuming the replacements could have been found ''before'' the fairies had completely lost their ability to hold the walls. Otherwise, the Venator in attempting to protect humanity, would have instead doomed it, and all of reality (possibly multiple realities, considering what Bob said), as Outsiders stormed walls undefended, Gates unguarded. The Gatekeeper of the time - the only one with the knowledge, apart from the Fae - would have either been slaughtered or elsewhere, trying to scare up replacements, and the Outsiders would have been able to sweep through all of reality. An army of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, whose only opponents suddenly vanish and suddenly have a nearly undefended reality, theirs to do with as they will. The road to Reality being overwritten by beings who make Giger and Escher look staid and unimaginative and Vlad Tepes kindly would have been paved with the best of intentions.
*** Not being known by mortals does not affect creatures in the Never Never, it only limits the power they can wield on the mortal plane.
** Even worse: Imagine all of the nasties that are currently allowed to rampage through the world only because the Venators wiped out their countermeasure. It's entirely possible that the Wild Hunt had something that served a similar function to it as Winter to the Outsiders, but because that something was more visible, it got wiped out. Basically the Venators are bad, and they should feel bad.
** The Venators aren't bad. They do the best with what information they have. Which makes it even scarier when they try to do what was described above. Takes [[PoorCommunicationKills Poor Communication Kills]] up to nuclear levels.
** WordOfGod has it that [[spoiler: the Archive secretly directs the Venatori under cover of her false claims of "neutrality". Presumably ''she'' knows the Winter Court is necessary, and wouldn't allow the Oblivion War to unmake them. Heck, one of Ivy's predecessors might even have introduced Mab to the Grimms for all we know.]]
* The sheer amount of times Harry slips in and out of his psychopath side is disturbing to both him and everyone around him. Worst of all Bob said the influence will only grow over time and while he might not succumb to it yet, a few years could do a number to him until he makes Lloyd Slate look like a schoolyard bully.
** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought twice about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do. And worse, she wants him badly enough that she is willing to let him do whatever the Mantle prompts to her.
** The timescale is also horrifying. The battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates passes much much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting and dying, falling back and losing ground the defenders of the gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.
*** Actually, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much faster in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it this was likely a favor by the Mothers.
** The really horrifying thing? The one that had me feel like someone was hitting my brain's pressure points when I thought of it? An offhand comment Thomas made in ''Backup'', in the light of this new knowledge. He says that they almost wiped out the Fae, but "The G-Men" (aka, the Grimm Brothers and Gutenburg - he being the inventor of the printing press) stopped them. '''Imagine what would have happened if they succeeded'''. I don't think the Outsiders besieging the Outer Gates would have gone away nicely when their opponents faded away, do you? Even if an appropriate replacement could have been found, one with both the will and capacity - there is always confusion when one fighting force is pulling out, and another replacing it. Add to that the fact that the fairies would have had to either break contact for their replacements to step in, or fight until they disappear and have their replacements waiting behind them the entire time, a steady reminder of their own inevitable fate - it would have been a slaughter at a critical moment of weakness. And that's ''best case'', assuming the replacements could have been found ''before'' the fairies had completely lost their ability to hold the walls. Otherwise, the Venator in attempting to protect humanity, would have instead doomed it, and all of reality (possibly multiple realities, considering what Bob said), as Outsiders stormed walls undefended, Gates unguarded. The Gatekeeper of the time - the only one with the knowledge, apart from the Fae - would have either been slaughtered or elsewhere, trying to scare up replacements, and the Outsiders would have been able to sweep through all of reality. An army of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, whose only opponents suddenly vanish and suddenly have a nearly undefended reality, theirs to do with as they will. The road to Reality being overwritten by beings who make Giger and Escher look staid and unimaginative and Vlad Tepes kindly would have been paved with the best of intentions.
*** Not being known by mortals does not affect creatures in the Never Never, it only limits the power they can wield on the mortal plane.
** Even worse: Imagine all of the nasties that are currently allowed to rampage through the world only because the Venators wiped out their countermeasure. It's entirely possible that the Wild Hunt had something that served a similar function to it as Winter to the Outsiders, but because that something was more visible, it got wiped out. Basically the Venators are bad, and they should feel bad.
** The Venators aren't bad. They do the best with what information they have. Which makes it even scarier when they try to do what was described above. Takes [[PoorCommunicationKills Poor Communication Kills]] up to nuclear levels.
** WordOfGod has it that [[spoiler: the Archive secretly directs the Venatori under cover of her false claims of "neutrality". Presumably ''she'' knows the Winter Court is necessary, and wouldn't allow the Oblivion War to unmake them. Heck, one of Ivy's predecessors might even have introduced Mab to the Grimms for all we know.]]
* The sheer amount of times Harry slips in and out of his psychopath side is disturbing to both him and everyone around him. Worst of all Bob said the influence will only grow over time and while he might not succumb to it yet, a few years could do a number to him until he makes Lloyd Slate look like a schoolyard bully.
** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought twice about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do. And worse, she wants him badly enough that she is willing to let him do whatever the Mantle prompts to her.
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** The timescale is also horrifying. The battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates passes much much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting and dying, falling back and losing ground the defenders of the gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.
*** Actually, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much faster in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it this was likely a favor by the Mothers.
** The really horrifying thing? The one that had me feel like someone was hitting my brain's pressure points when I thought of it? An offhand comment Thomas made in ''Backup'', in the light of this new knowledge. He says that they almost wiped out the Fae, but "The G-Men" (aka, the Grimm Brothers and Gutenburg - he being the inventor of the printing press) stopped them. '''Imagine what would have happened if they succeeded'''. I don't think the Outsiders besieging the Outer Gates would have gone away nicely when their opponents faded away, do you? Even if an appropriate replacement could have been found, one with both the will and capacity - there is always confusion when one fighting force is pulling out, and another replacing it. Add to that the fact that the fairies would have had to either break contact for their replacements to step in, or fight until they disappear and have their replacements waiting behind them the entire time, a steady reminder of their own inevitable fate - it would have been a slaughter at a critical moment of weakness. And that's ''best case'', assuming the replacements could have been found ''before'' the fairies had completely lost their ability to hold the walls. Otherwise, the Venator in attempting to protect humanity, would have instead doomed it, and all of reality (possibly multiple realities, considering what Bob said), as Outsiders stormed walls undefended, Gates unguarded. The Gatekeeper of the time - the only one with the knowledge, apart from the Fae - would have either been slaughtered or elsewhere, trying to scare up replacements, and the Outsiders would have been able to sweep through all of reality. An army of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, whose only opponents suddenly vanish and suddenly have a nearly undefended reality, theirs to do with as they will. The road to Reality being overwritten by beings who make Giger and Escher look staid and unimaginative and Vlad Tepes kindly would have been paved with the best of intentions.
*** Not being known by mortals does not affect creatures in the Never Never, it only limits the power they can wield on the mortal plane.
** Even worse: Imagine all of the nasties that are currently allowed to rampage through the world only because the Venators wiped out their countermeasure. It's entirely possible that the Wild Hunt had something that served a similar function to it as Winter to the Outsiders, but because that something was more visible, it got wiped out. Basically the Venators are bad, and they should feel bad.
** The Venators aren't bad. They do the best with what information they have. Which makes it even scarier when they try to do what was described above. Takes [[PoorCommunicationKills Poor Communication Kills]] up to nuclear levels.
** WordOfGod has it that [[spoiler: the Archive secretly directs the Venatori under cover of her false claims of "neutrality". Presumably ''she'' knows the Winter Court is necessary, and wouldn't allow the Oblivion War to unmake them. Heck, one of Ivy's predecessors might even have introduced Mab to the Grimms for all we know.]]
** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought
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* The reveal of what exactly is underneath Demonreach. The whole island was created and enchanted by the original Merlin, using magic so powerful that even BOB doesn't understand how it works. The kicker? All of that power was necessary because the island is a prison for {{Eldritch Abomination}}s so powerful that it has 6 ''Naagloshii'' in MINIMUM SECURITY. The inmates are so powerful that the tiny amount of power leakage from all of the beings in the prison- their ''body heat''- is the basis of the massive leyline of dark energy that runs beneath the island. If they ever get out, the world would end. Don't worry, though. They'll never get out because if the enchantments on the prison fail, it triggers the fail-safe mechanism that will slow them down long enough for reinforcements to arrive and get inevitably slaughtered. Oh, and the fail-safe is an explosion that will take out most of the United States.
** Just to cap it off, try imagining what life must've been like for normal people ''before Merlin locked all those abominations away''.
** Oh, and there's at least one way they can get out: As the Warden, Harry has the authority to ''release them''.
* In the cottage, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted the athame that was given to the Leanansidhe at [[Literature/GravePeril Bianca's masquerade party]], causing ''her'' to be infected, which in turn infected a Faerie Queen. What's worse? [[ParanoiaFuel There's no way to tell who's been infected,]] unless you confront them. If they're not infected, you look like you're crazy. If they ''are'' infected, they either [[HeKnowsTooMuch kill you]] or [[TheVirus infect you]].
** Just to cap it off, try imagining what life must've been like for normal people ''before Merlin locked all those abominations away''.
** Oh, and there's at least one way they can get out: As the Warden, Harry has the authority to ''release them''.
* In the cottage, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted the athame that was given to the Leanansidhe at [[Literature/GravePeril Bianca's masquerade party]], causing ''her'' to be infected, which in turn infected a Faerie Queen. What's worse? [[ParanoiaFuel There's no way to tell who's been infected,]] unless you confront them. If they're not infected, you look like you're crazy. If they ''are'' infected, they either [[HeKnowsTooMuch kill you]] or [[TheVirus infect you]].
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** There's an incredibly chilling moment where it's mentioned in an aside [[BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy who some of the previous Winter Knights were]] - Namely, Gilles de Rais, Andrei Chikatilo, John Haigh, and Fritz Haarmann. A.k.a., four particularly infamous ''{{Serial Killer}}s'', three of whom are also generally considered to have been pedophiles.
* Not as horrifying on an apocalyptic scale as most of the below-mentioned stuff is, but early on in the book Dresden shatters a fey lord into pieces. Which given the statement he was making is pretty awesome. But then he starts dancing with Mab as the pieces crunch under his feet. Harry dances with his queen on the crunching frozen gore of their enemies. There are ''supervillains'' who would draw the line at that.
* The terrifying reveal of what exactlyis ''is'' underneath Demonreach. The whole island was created and enchanted by the original Merlin, using magic so powerful that even BOB '''Bob''' doesn't understand how it works. The kicker? All of that power was necessary because the island is a prison for {{Eldritch Abomination}}s so powerful that it has 6 ''Naagloshii'' in MINIMUM SECURITY. '''minimum security.''' The inmates are so powerful that the tiny amount of power leakage from all of the beings in the prison- prison - in essence, their ''body heat''- heat'' - is the basis of the massive leyline ley line of dark energy that runs beneath the island. If they ever get out, the world would end. ''end.'' [[SarcasmMode Don't worry, though. though.]] They'll never get out because if the enchantments on the prison fail, it triggers the fail-safe mechanism that will kill the majority of them and slow them the survivors down long enough for reinforcements to arrive and get inevitably slaughtered. Oh, and the that aforementioned fail-safe is an explosion that will take out most of the United States.
North America.
** Just to cap it off, [[FridgeHorror tryimagining imagining]] what life must've been like for normal people ''before Merlin locked all those abominations away''.
** Oh, and there's at least one other way they can get out: As the Warden, Harry has the authority to ''releasethem''.
* In the cottage, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted the athame that was given to the Leanansidhe at [[Literature/GravePeril Bianca's masquerade party]], causing ''her'' to be infected, which in turn infected a Faerie Queen. What's worse? [[ParanoiaFuel There's no way to tell who's been infected,]] unless you confront them. If they're not infected, you look like you're crazy. If they ''are'' infected, they either [[HeKnowsTooMuch kill you]] or [[TheVirus infect you]].them''.
* Not as horrifying on an apocalyptic scale as most of the below-mentioned stuff is, but early on in the book Dresden shatters a fey lord into pieces. Which given the statement he was making is pretty awesome. But then he starts dancing with Mab as the pieces crunch under his feet. Harry dances with his queen on the crunching frozen gore of their enemies. There are ''supervillains'' who would draw the line at that.
* The terrifying reveal of what exactly
** Just to cap it off, [[FridgeHorror try
** Oh, and there's at least one other way they can get out: As the Warden, Harry has the authority to ''release
* In the cottage, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted the athame that was given to the Leanansidhe at [[Literature/GravePeril Bianca's masquerade party]], causing ''her'' to be infected, which in turn infected a Faerie Queen. What's worse? [[ParanoiaFuel There's no way to tell who's been infected,]] unless you confront them. If they're not infected, you look like you're crazy. If they ''are'' infected, they either [[HeKnowsTooMuch kill you]] or [[TheVirus infect you]].
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** True to his kind, his first appearance is FridgeHorror. Just imagine sitting in a bar and a fricking EldritchAbomination comes in and threatens one of your fellow patrons. That's the stuff of nightmares.
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** True to his kind, his first appearance is FridgeHorror. Just imagine sitting in a bar and a fricking freaking EldritchAbomination comes in and threatens one of your fellow patrons. That's the stuff of nightmares.
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* Not as horrifying on an apocalyptic scale as most of the above, early in the book Dresden shatters a fey lord into pieces. Which given the statement he was making is pretty awesome. But then he starts dancing with Mab as the pieces crunch under his feet. Harry dances with his queen on the crunching frozen gore of their enemies. There are supervillains who would draw the line at that.
* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her. That is all.
* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willingly.
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her. That is all.
* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willingly.
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
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* Titania's arrival in the Montrose Point Bird Sanctuary after Harry summons her to get information on "the contagion" (a.k.a. Nemesis). Not only does she first manifest as horrifying on an apocalyptic scale as a ''tornado'' touching down, but she lifts Harry up by his neck and rants about how she wants to inflict upon him such horrific torments that they would make "[[PretenderDiss Lloyd Slate's fate seem kind by comparison]]."
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted theabove, early in the book Dresden shatters a fey lord into pieces. Which athame that was given to the statement he was making is pretty awesome. But then he starts dancing with Mab as the pieces crunch under his feet. Harry dances with his queen on the crunching frozen gore of their enemies. There are supervillains who would draw the line Leanansidhe at that.
[[Literature/GravePeril Bianca's masquerade party]], causing ''her'' to be infected, which in turn infected a Faerie Queen. What's worse? [[ParanoiaFuel There's no way to tell who's been infected,]] unless you confront them. If they're not infected, you look like you're crazy. If they ''are'' infected, they either [[HeKnowsTooMuch kill you]] or [[TheVirus infect you]].
* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her.That Instead of her being summoned to Earth by the wizard, she ''grabs Harry by his face and pulls him through his gravesite into the farthest reaches of Faerie'', where he's pinned to the earth by her sheer willpower and trapped in absolute darkness. The only light being given off is all.
from the sparks coming off her cleaver as she sharpens it, and Mother Winter then rasps to Harry how "I have a stew to make, and I will [[ImAHumanitarian fill it with your arrogant mortal meat]]." The only thing that makes the whole scene even creepier is how during this, Mother Winter's cleaver is described as being made of steel (''the'' KryptoniteFactor of TheFairFolk)... and the steel is ''[[TheWorfEffect visibly tarnishing under her very touch]]''.
-->'''Mother Winter:''' Ahhh, I like nice clean edges to my meat, manling. ''Time for dinner.''
* In the cottage shared by the Queen Mothers, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes the exact same tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (brief) appearances, Mother Summer ''seemed'' like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood utterly]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality inhuman]] as Mother Winter.
* After his dismal failure at summoning Mother Winter, Mother Summer shows Harry [[EldritchLocation the Outer Gates]]. It's the literal ''border of reality'' where TheFairFolk wage a ForeverWar against [[EldritchAbomination the Outsiders]], and is described as looking like the Western Front of World War I cranked UpToEleven. Suffice to say, what shortly follows Harry's full realization of what's at stake are easily the four most haunting words in the entire series.
-->'''Harry's Narration:''' [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm My senses and mind alike simply could not process everything I was seeing]]. But my heart was beating very swiftly, [[OhCrap and frozen fear had touched my heart]] like Mab's fingers.\\
[[EldritchAbomination The Outsiders]] wanted ''[[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt in.]]''
** The sheer scale of it all is what makes it truly horrifying on an existential level. As Harry looks around the battlefield, he realizes that the layers and mounds of shale making up the battlefield aren't actually shale, but ''bones''. '''Fossilized bones.''' Or, as he puts it, "millions and millions and millions of [[PrecisionFStrike fucktons]] of bones." '''That''' is how many who have fallen in service to defending the Outer Gates from the Outsiders.
** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely a favor by the Mothers.[[/note]]
%%** The really horrifying thing? The one that had me feel like someone was hitting my brain's pressure points when I thought of it? An offhand comment Thomas made in ''Backup'', in the light of this new knowledge. He says that they almost wiped out the Fae, but "The G-Men" (aka, the Grimm Brothers and Gutenburg - he being the inventor of the printing press) stopped them. '''Imagine what would have happened if they succeeded'''. I don't think the Outsiders besieging the Outer Gates would have gone away nicely when their opponents faded away, do you? Even if an appropriate replacement could have been found, one with both the will and capacity - there is always confusion when one fighting force is pulling out, and another replacing it. Add to that the fact that the fairies would have had to either break contact for their replacements to step in, or fight until they disappear and have their replacements waiting behind them the entire time, a steady reminder of their own inevitable fate - it would have been a slaughter at a critical moment of weakness. And that's ''best case'', assuming the replacements could have been found ''before'' the fairies had completely lost their ability to hold the walls. Otherwise, the Venator in attempting to protect humanity, would have instead doomed it, and all of reality (possibly multiple realities, considering what Bob said), as Outsiders stormed walls undefended, Gates unguarded. The Gatekeeper of the time - the only one with the knowledge, apart from the Fae - would have either been slaughtered or elsewhere, trying to scare up replacements, and the Outsiders would have been able to sweep through all of reality. An army of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, whose only opponents suddenly vanish and suddenly have a nearly undefended reality, theirs to do with as they will. The road to Reality being overwritten by beings who make Giger look staid, Escher unimaginative, and Vlad Tepes kindly would have been paved with the best of intentions.
%%*** Not being known by mortals does not affect creatures in the Never Never, it only limits the power they can wield on the mortal plane.
%%** Even worse: Imagine all of the nasties that are currently allowed to rampage through the world only because the Venators wiped out their countermeasure. It's entirely possible that the Wild Hunt had something that served a similar function to it as Winter to the Outsiders, but because that something was more visible, it got wiped out. Basically the Venators are bad, and they should feel bad.
%%** The Venators aren't bad. They do the best with what information they have. Which makes it even scarier when they try to do what was described above. Takes [[PoorCommunicationKills Poor Communication Kills]] up to nuclear levels.
%%** WordOfGod has it that [[spoiler: the Archive secretly directs the Venatori under cover of her false claims of "neutrality". Presumably ''she'' knows the Winter Court is necessary, and wouldn't allow the Oblivion War to unmake them. Heck, one of Ivy's predecessors might even have introduced Mab to the Grimms for all we know.]]
* Nemesis "[[DemonicPossession assuming direct control]]" over Cat Sith. As in, Nemesis turns [[FightingFromTheInside a violently spasming Sith]] into a completely still EmptyShell through MindRape so as to have a MeatPuppet to kill Harry with. In particular, the description of the "smug, contemptuous self-assurance" in Sith's eyes being just ''gone'' is utterly chilling along with how "Not-Sith" [[UncannyValley turns Sith's head towards Harry in a graceless manner]] while speaking in a voice "[[CreepyMonotone completely devoid of anything like personality]]."
-->'''Not-Sith:''' [[SpockSpeak A pity. I would have been more useful to them as an active, covert asset.]]\\
'''Harry:''' Like Mab wouldn't have figured it out. Like she did when you infected Lea.\\
'''Not-Sith:''' [[PreMortemOneLiner Further conversation is not useful to our design.]] ''(jumps at Harry)''
* Nemesis corrupting Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings to Lily into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willingly.
**A And here's a healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What FridgeHorror; what if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.anyone''.
** And in a mix of both this trope and TearJerker, this scene has Lily finally flipping out and nearly killing Dresden. After going on a furious TheReasonYouSuckSpeech pointing out how [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Harry is (indirectly) responsible for]] saddling her with [[BlessedWithSuck the Mantle of the Summer Lady]], she basically hurls a miniature ''sun'' at him that conjures a column of fire '''thirty feet high with the width of a telephone pole''' where it lands. Literally the ''only'' reason Harry survived was that Fix was able to deflect the "mini-sun" from hitting Harry at the last second.
* The reveal of [[GreaterScopeVillain Nemesis]]. A sentient mental "disease" that [[MindControl subverts people]] to the cause of the [[EldritchAbomination Outsiders]]. Said to be responsible for most of Harry's major cases, and also corrupted the
* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her.
-->'''Mother Winter:''' Ahhh, I like nice clean edges to my meat, manling. ''Time for dinner.''
* In the cottage shared by the Queen Mothers, Harry accidentally knocks over a jar, cracking it, and sees that the other jars in the vicinity include the black plague and countless other deadly diseases. The one he cracked? ''[[Literature/TheBible Wormwood]]''.
** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareTheNiceOnes the exact same tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (brief) appearances, Mother Summer ''seemed'' like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood utterly]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality inhuman]] as Mother Winter.
* After his dismal failure at summoning Mother Winter, Mother Summer shows Harry [[EldritchLocation the Outer Gates]]. It's the literal ''border of reality'' where TheFairFolk wage a ForeverWar against [[EldritchAbomination the Outsiders]], and is described as looking like the Western Front of World War I cranked UpToEleven. Suffice to say, what shortly follows Harry's full realization of what's at stake are easily the four most haunting words in the entire series.
-->'''Harry's Narration:''' [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm My senses and mind alike simply could not process everything I was seeing]]. But my heart was beating very swiftly, [[OhCrap and frozen fear had touched my heart]] like Mab's fingers.\\
[[EldritchAbomination The Outsiders]] wanted ''[[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt in.]]''
** The sheer scale of it all is what makes it truly horrifying on an existential level. As Harry looks around the battlefield, he realizes that the layers and mounds of shale making up the battlefield aren't actually shale, but ''bones''. '''Fossilized bones.''' Or, as he puts it, "millions and millions and millions of [[PrecisionFStrike fucktons]] of bones." '''That''' is how many who have fallen in service to defending the Outer Gates from the Outsiders.
** The timescale is also horrifying. This battle has always waged, since the beginning of time. Only, time at the Outer Gates seems to pass much faster than in the mortal world. So for every few hours of fighting, dying, falling back and losing ground that the defenders of the Gates make it through, the mortal world only gets a few extra seconds of existence.[[note]]Granted, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much ''faster'' in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it implies that this was likely a favor by the Mothers.[[/note]]
%%** The really horrifying thing? The one that had me feel like someone was hitting my brain's pressure points when I thought of it? An offhand comment Thomas made in ''Backup'', in the light of this new knowledge. He says that they almost wiped out the Fae, but "The G-Men" (aka, the Grimm Brothers and Gutenburg - he being the inventor of the printing press) stopped them. '''Imagine what would have happened if they succeeded'''. I don't think the Outsiders besieging the Outer Gates would have gone away nicely when their opponents faded away, do you? Even if an appropriate replacement could have been found, one with both the will and capacity - there is always confusion when one fighting force is pulling out, and another replacing it. Add to that the fact that the fairies would have had to either break contact for their replacements to step in, or fight until they disappear and have their replacements waiting behind them the entire time, a steady reminder of their own inevitable fate - it would have been a slaughter at a critical moment of weakness. And that's ''best case'', assuming the replacements could have been found ''before'' the fairies had completely lost their ability to hold the walls. Otherwise, the Venator in attempting to protect humanity, would have instead doomed it, and all of reality (possibly multiple realities, considering what Bob said), as Outsiders stormed walls undefended, Gates unguarded. The Gatekeeper of the time - the only one with the knowledge, apart from the Fae - would have either been slaughtered or elsewhere, trying to scare up replacements, and the Outsiders would have been able to sweep through all of reality. An army of {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, whose only opponents suddenly vanish and suddenly have a nearly undefended reality, theirs to do with as they will. The road to Reality being overwritten by beings who make Giger look staid, Escher unimaginative, and Vlad Tepes kindly would have been paved with the best of intentions.
%%*** Not being known by mortals does not affect creatures in the Never Never, it only limits the power they can wield on the mortal plane.
%%** Even worse: Imagine all of the nasties that are currently allowed to rampage through the world only because the Venators wiped out their countermeasure. It's entirely possible that the Wild Hunt had something that served a similar function to it as Winter to the Outsiders, but because that something was more visible, it got wiped out. Basically the Venators are bad, and they should feel bad.
%%** The Venators aren't bad. They do the best with what information they have. Which makes it even scarier when they try to do what was described above. Takes [[PoorCommunicationKills Poor Communication Kills]] up to nuclear levels.
%%** WordOfGod has it that [[spoiler: the Archive secretly directs the Venatori under cover of her false claims of "neutrality". Presumably ''she'' knows the Winter Court is necessary, and wouldn't allow the Oblivion War to unmake them. Heck, one of Ivy's predecessors might even have introduced Mab to the Grimms for all we know.]]
* Nemesis "[[DemonicPossession assuming direct control]]" over Cat Sith. As in, Nemesis turns [[FightingFromTheInside a violently spasming Sith]] into a completely still EmptyShell through MindRape so as to have a MeatPuppet to kill Harry with. In particular, the description of the "smug, contemptuous self-assurance" in Sith's eyes being just ''gone'' is utterly chilling along with how "Not-Sith" [[UncannyValley turns Sith's head towards Harry in a graceless manner]] while speaking in a voice "[[CreepyMonotone completely devoid of anything like personality]]."
-->'''Not-Sith:''' [[SpockSpeak A pity. I would have been more useful to them as an active, covert asset.]]\\
'''Harry:''' Like Mab wouldn't have figured it out. Like she did when you infected Lea.\\
'''Not-Sith:''' [[PreMortemOneLiner Further conversation is not useful to our design.]] ''(jumps at Harry)''
* Nemesis corrupting Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings to Lily into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willingly.
**
** And in a mix of both this trope and TearJerker, this scene has Lily finally flipping out and nearly killing Dresden. After going on a furious TheReasonYouSuckSpeech pointing out how [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Harry is (indirectly) responsible for]] saddling her with [[BlessedWithSuck the Mantle of the Summer Lady]], she basically hurls a miniature ''sun'' at him that conjures a column of fire '''thirty feet high with the width of a telephone pole''' where it lands. Literally the ''only'' reason Harry survived was that Fix was able to deflect the "mini-sun" from hitting Harry at the last second.
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** Then Murphy shoots Maeve dead on Mab's indication. The entire situation is pure unadulterated AdultFear
** Making it worse is that even without all supernatural trappings, its quite a viable real life scenario.
** Making it worse is that even without all supernatural trappings, its quite a viable real life scenario.
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** Then Murphy shoots Maeve dead on Mab's indication. The entire situation is pure unadulterated AdultFear
Yeah, Nemesis literally forced Mab to kill her own daughter ''by proxy'' to save the world.
** Making it worse is thateven without all the supernatural trappings, its a crazed gunman scenario like this [[AdultFear is actually quite a the viable scenario in real life scenario.life]].
** Making it worse is that
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** It's still creepy as hell when you think about what his Name means. He Who Walks Behind, was always behind Harry, getting closer, and closer, and closer. With a guess [[spoiler:He Who Walks Before]] starts out beside you and walks further and further ahead, no matter how fast you run, you'll never be in time to save anyone because he's one step ahead of you. Either this is another advantage of Harry being a [[spoiler:Starborn, with power over outsiders]], or he just didn't build up enough "distance" to render the situation entirely without hope.
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** It's still creepy as hell when you think about what his Name means. He Who Walks Behind, was always behind Harry, getting closer, and closer, and closer. With a guess [[spoiler:He Who Walks Before]] starts out beside you and walks further and further ahead, no matter how fast you run, you'll never be in time to save anyone because he's one step ahead of you. Either this is another advantage of Harry being a [[spoiler:Starborn, with power over outsiders]], Outsiders]], or he just didn't build up enough "distance" to render the situation entirely without hope.hope.
** True to his kind, his first appearance is FridgeHorror. Just imagine sitting in a bar and a fricking EldritchAbomination comes in and threatens one of your fellow patrons. That's the stuff of nightmares.
*** More FridgeHorror. The Outsiders are under no laws like the White Council, no restrictions like angelic beings or fae (unless not being able to manifest in full power) and cannot be bound. And then they come after a specific individual...
** True to his kind, his first appearance is FridgeHorror. Just imagine sitting in a bar and a fricking EldritchAbomination comes in and threatens one of your fellow patrons. That's the stuff of nightmares.
*** More FridgeHorror. The Outsiders are under no laws like the White Council, no restrictions like angelic beings or fae (unless not being able to manifest in full power) and cannot be bound. And then they come after a specific individual...
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* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willinglym
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
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* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willinglym
willingly.
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almostanyone''.anyone''.
* The sheer MoodWhiplash when Maeve pulls out a gun and shoots Lily, who just wanted to do the right thing, and with it, taking Sarissa away from Mab.
** Then Murphy shoots Maeve dead on Mab's indication. The entire situation is pure unadulterated AdultFear
** Making it worse is that even without all supernatural trappings, its quite a viable real life scenario.
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost
* The sheer MoodWhiplash when Maeve pulls out a gun and shoots Lily, who just wanted to do the right thing, and with it, taking Sarissa away from Mab.
** Then Murphy shoots Maeve dead on Mab's indication. The entire situation is pure unadulterated AdultFear
** Making it worse is that even without all supernatural trappings, its quite a viable real life scenario.
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* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her. That is all.
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* Mother Winter after Harry becomes desperate enough to summon her. That is all.all.
* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willinglym
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
* Nemesis infected Maeve's special veil which she covers Harry with, which turns all of his verbal peace offerings into threats, insults and taunts. And you won't know it unless you are looking for it. Excellent ParanoiaFuel and explaining how she managed to convert Lily to her side willinglym
** A healthy dose of FridgeHorror. What if that power was zero Maeve, and fully Nemesis? It could put conflict between ''almost anyone''.
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*** Actually, following the visit to the Outer Gates, Harry mentions that time usually passes much faster in Nevernever than in the mortal world and the fact that he came back to reality just after he'd left it this was likely a favor by the Mothers.
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** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought twice about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do.
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** His psychopath side itself. It's scary to watch him slip into possessive, primitive desires for people he cares about, especially when before becoming the Winter Knight he wouldn't have thought twice about the things that set him off. And [[TheEmpath Molly,]] when she's close and accidentally triggers his anger, feels all of it, and knows what he wants to do. And worse, she wants him badly enough that she is willing to let him do whatever the Mantle prompts to her.
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** Oh, and there's at least one way they can get out: As the Warden, Harry has the authority to ''release them''.
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** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorroe in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
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** What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorroe [[FridgeHorror in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareNiceOnes [[BewareTheNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
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**What makes it even scarier [[FridgeHorroe in hindsight]]? Those plagues were created by [[GrannyClassic Mother]] [[MotherNature Summer]], who shows them [[BewareNiceOnes exactly same, tender attention which one might show to puppies or grandchildren]]. In all her (though brief) appearances, Mother Summer seemed like [[OnlySaneMan a single truly good faerie in entire series.]] It is very easy to forget that she is just as powerful and [[LightIsNotGood in]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality human]] as Mother Winter.
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Incorrect - coming back applies only to Immortals, which the fey lord might not have been, and the time of death is only from SUNSET on Halloween to the next day, and this was before sunrise even.
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** How about the fact that because [[spoiler:it happened on Halloween, the guy's not coming back from it, ever]]? No wonder the Fae don't want that little bit of info getting out, especially considering [[spoiler:who their enemies are]].
