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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Original members Howard Kaylan, Al Nichol, and Chuck Portz all graduated from Westchester High School's class of 1964. Mark Volman attended the same school but graduated a year later. Meanwhile, Jim Tucker and Don Murray studied at nearby Torrance and Inglewood, respectively.

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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Original members Howard Kaylan, Al Nichol, and Chuck Portz all graduated from Westchester High School's class of 1964. Mark Volman attended the same school but graduated a year later. Meanwhile, Jim Tucker and Don Murray studied at nearby Torrance and Inglewood, respectively. Their long relationship with Creator/RhinoRecords for reissues happened in part because Rhino co-chief Harold Bronson was also a Westchester alum, and his older brother went to school with the band members.


* WeUsedToBeFriends: Essentially why Portz and Murray left the band in early 1966 -- they didn't exactly leave on bad terms but felt they were drifting apart from the rest of the guys, especially when offstage.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: Essentially why Portz and Murray and Portz claimed they left the band in early 1966 their 1991 documentary, ''Happy Together'' -- they didn't exactly leave on bad terms but felt they were drifting apart from the rest of the guys, especially when offstage.offstage.
** Howard Kaylan claimed in his autobiography, ''Shell Shocked'', that Murray abruptly left in the middle of a show because he was convinced his bandmates were conspiring to fire him, while Portz sensed the "impending end of the band" and left rock 'n' roll soon after to become a fisherman.


* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Original members Howard Kaylan, Al Nichol, Chuck Portz, Jim Tucker, and Don Murray all graduated from Westchester High School's class of 1964. Mark Volman attended the same school but graduated a year later.

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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Original members Howard Kaylan, Al Nichol, and Chuck Portz, Jim Tucker, and Don Murray Portz all graduated from Westchester High School's class of 1964. Mark Volman attended the same school but graduated a year later. Meanwhile, Jim Tucker and Don Murray studied at nearby Torrance and Inglewood, respectively.


The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for their hit songs including "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "You Showed Me", "Elenore", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".

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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 1963 as a surf-rock band called The Crossfires, switched to their familiar sound and name in 1965, and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for their hit songs including "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "You Showed Me", "Elenore", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".


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* DoubleEntendre: "I'm Chief [[IntercourseWithYou Kamanawanalea]] (We're The Royal Macadamia Nuts)" from the ''Battle of the Bands'' album.


* MoneySong: "Gas Money"

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* MoneySong: "Gas Money"Money," which is actually a cover of a Jan & Arnie original.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: Essentially why Portz and Murray left the band in early 1966 -- they didn't exactly leave on bad terms but felt they were drifting apart from the rest of the guys, especially when offstage.



* YoungerThanTheyLook: When "Happy Together" hit #1, Kaylan and Volman were both 19, but Kaylan could've passed for 30 and Volman for mid-20s.

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* YoungerThanTheyLook: When "Happy Together" hit #1, Kaylan and Volman were both 19, but Kaylan could've passed for 30 and Volman for mid-20s. Also, Kaylan in his later years due to his receding hairline and prematurely graying hair.

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* EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether: Original members Howard Kaylan, Al Nichol, Chuck Portz, Jim Tucker, and Don Murray all graduated from Westchester High School's class of 1964. Mark Volman attended the same school but graduated a year later.


* FunnyAfro: Volman began sporting one in the late '60s, and at one point was reported to have gotten it insured for $100,000.

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* SpringtimeForHitler: Following the success of "Happy Together", the band's label, White Whale Records, placed the band under serious pressure to record a similar-sounding follow-up. As a result, the band wrote "Elenore", a "skewed version" with intentionally cringeworthy lyrics such as, "Elenore, gee I think you're swell, and you really do me well, you're my pride and joy, et cetera..." in hopes that the label would leave them alone. Instead, the label released it as a single, and it became a Top Ten hit. Kaylan blamed the song's success on the production, saying "Truthfully, though, the production on "Elenore" WAS so damn good. Lyrically or not, the sound of the thing was so positive that it worked."

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** Their first hit was a cover of "It Ain't Me Babe" by Music/BobDylan.

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* UncommonTime: "Grim Reaper of Love" has verses in 5/4 time.


** They famously CoveredUp Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe" for their first hit.


* BreakupBreakout: Kaylan and Volman renamed themselves Flo & Eddie and would join Music/FrankZappa's the Mothers of Invention (they can be heard on the albums ''Music/ChungasRevenge'' (1970), ''Music/FillmoreEastJune1971'' (1971), ''Film/TwoHundredMotels'' (1971) and ''Music/JustAnotherBandFromLA'' (1972) and work with everyone from [[Music/MarcBolan T. Rex]] to Music/AliceCooper to Music/DuranDuran and MANY OTHERS. Mark and Howie also lent their voices to the X-rated animated cartoon ''WesternAnimation/DownAndDirtyDuck''. Drummer John Barbata would also move on to Music/JeffersonAirplane, which would become Music/JeffersonStarship not long after he joined.


* BrokenPedestal: According to Howard Kaylan, Jim Tucker left the group after they had an unpleasant encounter with Music/JohnLennon, who he idolized, at a London nightclub in 1967. Amusingly, however, Tucker himself claims that he simply left due to burnout from constantly touring and recording new material.

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* BrokenPedestal: According to Howard Kaylan, Jim Tucker left the group after they had an unpleasant encounter with Music/JohnLennon, who he idolized, at a London nightclub in 1967. Amusingly, however, Tucker himself actually denies this and claims that he simply left due to burnout from constantly touring and recording new material.


** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas and The Grass Roots recorded it as an album track on their respective debut albums, both groups using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, songwriter, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas and The Grass Roots recorded it as an album track on their respective debut albums, both groups using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)


** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension. (Technically, on ''It Ain't Me Babe'', Howe was credited for "studio direction'', with the actual producer credits going to Ted Feigin and Lee Lasseff, the label heads of White Whale Records, The Turtles' record label. Howe would finally get full producer credit on ''You, Baby'', again sharing producer credits with Feigin and Lasseff.)

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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension. (Technically, on ''It Ain't Me Babe'', Howe was credited for "studio direction'', direction", with the actual producer credits going to Ted Feigin and Lee Lasseff, the label heads of White Whale Records, The Turtles' record label. Howe would finally get full producer credit on ''You, Baby'', again sharing producer credits with Feigin and Lasseff.)

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