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The Mamas & the Papas were an American folk rock group from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, California, which formed in 1965 and disbanded in 1968, with a brief reunion in 1971. The group was composed of John Phillips (1935–2001), Denny Doherty (1940–2007), Cass Elliot (1941–1974), and Michelle Phillips, ''née'' Gilliam (b. 1944). Known for their soaring vocal harmonies, the group released five studio albums and seventeen singles, six of which made the ''Billboard'' Top 10, and have sold close to 40 million records worldwide.

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The Mamas & the Papas were an American folk rock group from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, California, which formed in 1965 and disbanded in 1968, with a brief reunion in 1971. The group was composed of John Phillips (1935–2001), Denny Doherty (1940–2007), Cass Elliot ''née'' Ellen Naomi Cohen (1941–1974), and Michelle Phillips, ''née'' Gilliam (b. 1944). Known for their soaring vocal harmonies, the group released five studio albums and seventeen singles, six of which made the ''Billboard'' Top 10, and have sold close to 40 million records worldwide.
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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.[[note]]The title references Creque's (pronounced "Creaky's") Alley, a waterfront district on St. Thomas in the UsefulNotes/UnitedStatesVirginIslands that housed a nightclub where John and Michelle Phillips performed with the New Journeymen in the early '60s.[[/note]]

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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about of the band's formation, struggle for success success, and eventual commercial breakthrough.[[note]]The title references Creque's (pronounced "Creaky's") Alley, a waterfront district on St. Thomas in the UsefulNotes/UnitedStatesVirginIslands that housed a nightclub where John and Michelle Phillips performed with the New Journeymen in the early '60s.[[/note]]
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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich [[note]] she died of a heart attack, in her sleep [[/note]] — although she did die in the same room that [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon]] later died in [[note]] in an apartment in the London district of Mayfair; both of them died at the age of 32 [[/note]].

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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich sandwich.[[note]] she She died of a heart attack, in her sleep sleep. [[/note]] — although she did She did, however, die in the same room that [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon]] later died in in.[[note]] in In an apartment in the London district of Mayfair; both of them died at the age of 32 [[/note]]. 32. [[/note]]
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"Papa John" Philips also helped to organize the Film/MontereyPop Festival in 1967 along with record producer Lou Adler and Alan Pariser. This now-legendary festival provided huge career boosts for Music/JimiHendrix, Music/TheWho, Music/RaviShankar, Music/JanisJoplin, and Music/OtisRedding. (The Mamas & the Papas would end up being the closing act for the festival after Music/TheBeachBoys were unable to close as originally planned.)

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"Papa John" Philips – along with record producer Lou Adler and promoter Alan Pariser – also helped to organize the Film/MontereyPop Festival in 1967 along with record producer Lou Adler and Alan Pariser. 1967. This now-legendary festival provided huge important career boosts for such artists as Music/JimiHendrix, Music/TheWho, Music/RaviShankar, Music/JanisJoplin, and Music/OtisRedding. (The Mamas & the Papas would end wound up being the closing act for the festival after Music/TheBeachBoys when Music/TheBeachBoys, who were originally planned to close, were unable to close as originally planned.attend.)
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The Mamas & the Papas were an American folk rock group from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, California, that formed in 1965 and disbanded in 1968, with a brief reunion in 1971. The group was composed of John Phillips (1935–2001), Denny Doherty (1940–2007), Cass Elliot (1941–1974), and Michelle Phillips, ''née'' Gilliam (b. 1944). Known for their soaring vocal harmonies, they released five studio albums and seventeen singles, six of which made the Top Ten, and have sold close to 40 million records worldwide.

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The Mamas & the Papas were an American folk rock group from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, California, that which formed in 1965 and disbanded in 1968, with a brief reunion in 1971. The group was composed of John Phillips (1935–2001), Denny Doherty (1940–2007), Cass Elliot (1941–1974), and Michelle Phillips, ''née'' Gilliam (b. 1944). Known for their soaring vocal harmonies, they the group released five studio albums and seventeen singles, six of which made the ''Billboard'' Top Ten, 10, and have sold close to 40 million records worldwide.
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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich.

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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich.sandwich [[note]] she died of a heart attack, in her sleep [[/note]] — although she did die in the same room that [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon]] later died in [[note]] in an apartment in the London district of Mayfair; both of them died at the age of 32 [[/note]].

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* HatingOnMonday: "Monday, Monday":
--> ''Every other day, (every other day)''
--> ''Every other day of the week is fine, yeah''
--> ''But whenever Monday comes (But whenever Monday comes)''
--> ''You can find me crying all of the time''

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* HatingOnMonday: "Monday, Monday":
Monday"
--> ''Every other day, (every other day)''
--> ''Every
day)\\
Every
other day of the week is fine, yeah''
--> ''But
yeah\\
But
whenever Monday comes (But whenever Monday comes)''
--> ''You
comes)\\
You
can find me crying all of the time''


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* MutualEnvy: Referenced in "Creeque Alley":
--> ''Zally said "Denny, you know there aren't many\\
Who can sing a song the way that you do, let's go south"\\
Denny said "Zally, golly, don't you think that I wish\\
I could play guitar like you''
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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.[[note]]The title references Creque's (pronounced "Creaky's") Alley, a waterfront district on St. Thomas in the UsefulNotes/UnitedStatesVirginIslands that housed a nightclub where John and Michelle Phillips performed with the New Journeymen in the early '60s.

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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.[[note]]The title references Creque's (pronounced "Creaky's") Alley, a waterfront district on St. Thomas in the UsefulNotes/UnitedStatesVirginIslands that housed a nightclub where John and Michelle Phillips performed with the New Journeymen in the early '60s. [[/note]]
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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.

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* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.[[note]]The title references Creque's (pronounced "Creaky's") Alley, a waterfront district on St. Thomas in the UsefulNotes/UnitedStatesVirginIslands that housed a nightclub where John and Michelle Phillips performed with the New Journeymen in the early '60s.
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Their song "California Dreamin'" was ranked #89 in ''Magazine/RollingStone''[='s=] 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, while their album ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears '' was ranked #112 on the magazine's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.

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Their song "California Dreamin'" was ranked #89 in on ''Magazine/RollingStone''[='s=] 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, while their album ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears '' was ranked #112 on the magazine's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.
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Their song "California Dreamin'" was ranked #89 in ''Magazine/RollingStone''[='s=] 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. Their album ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears;' was ranked #112 on the magazine's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.

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Their song "California Dreamin'" was ranked #89 in ''Magazine/RollingStone''[='s=] 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. Their Time, while their album ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears;' Ears '' was ranked #112 on the magazine's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: When John briefly ousted Michelle from the group in 1966 (as punishment for her having an affair with Music/TheByrds' Gene Clark), Jill Gibson was brought in as a replacement. Like Michelle, Jill was a willowy blonde who sang in a soprano register, and she contributed vocals to a number of tracks on the group's self-titled second album before John decided the chemistry wasn't right and Michelle was brought back into the fold.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: When John briefly ousted Michelle from the group in 1966 (as punishment for her having an affair with Music/TheByrds' Gene Clark), Jill Gibson was brought in as a replacement. Like Michelle, Jill was a willowy blonde who sang in a soprano register, and she contributed vocals to a number of tracks on the group's self-titled second album before John decided the chemistry wasn't right and Michelle was brought back into the fold.
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* ContractualObligationProject: ''People Like Us'', made two years after the group's breakup when their label threatened to sue them for breach of contract.

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!!Studio albums by the Mamas & the Papas:
* ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears'' (1966)
* ''[[SelfTitledAlbum The Mamas & the Papas]]'' (1966)
* ''Deliver'' (1967)
* ''The Papas & the Mamas'' (1968)
* ''People Like Us'' (1971)

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* ContractualObligationProject: ''People Like Us'', made two years after the group's breakup when their label threatened to sue them for breach of contract.



* FatAndSkinny: Cass Elliot (fat) & Michelle Phillips (skinny). One of the few female examples of the trope.

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* FatAndSkinny: Cass Elliot (fat) & and Michelle Phillips (skinny). One of the few female examples of the trope.


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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: When John briefly ousted Michelle from the group in 1966 (as punishment for her having an affair with Music/TheByrds' Gene Clark), Jill Gibson was brought in as a replacement. Like Michelle, Jill was a willowy blonde who sang in a soprano register, and she contributed vocals to a number of tracks on the group's self-titled second album before John decided the chemistry wasn't right and Michelle was brought back into the fold.
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* ContemptibleCover: The original cover for their debut album, ''If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears'', depicted the group sitting in an empty bathtub with a toilet alongside. After the inclusion of the toilet prompted complaints from various MoralGuardians, the album was withdrawn and reissued with an altered cover featuring a graphic box blocking out the toilet.

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[[caption-width-right:310:From left to right: Denny Doherty, Michelle Phillips, John Phillips, Cass Elliot.]]

->''"All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray\\
I've been for a walk on a winter's day\\
I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A.\\
California dreamin' on such a winter's day"''
-->-- "'''California Dreamin[='=]'''"

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->''"All
[[/note]]]]

->''"John and Mitchy were gettin' kind of itchy\\
Just to leave
the leaves are brown folk music behind\\
[[Music/TheLovinSpoonful Zal]]
and the sky is gray\\
I've been
Denny workin' for a walk penny\\
Tryin' to get a fish
on the line\\
In
a winter's day\\
I'd be safe
coffee house [[Music/TheLovinSpoonful Sebastian]] sat\\
And after every number they'd pass the hat\\
[[Music/TheByrds McGuinn]]
and warm if I was in [=McGuire=] just a-gettin' higher\\
In
L.A.\\
California dreamin' on such a winter's day"''
, you know where that's at\\
And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass!"''
-->-- "'''California Dreamin[='=]'''"
"'''Creeque Alley'''"



!! "California Dreamin' on such a Troper's day":

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!! "California Dreamin' !!"California Tropin' on such a Troper's winter's day":



* LoveDodecahedron: Oooh, boy. Michelle and John Phillips were married when the band formed (and they had one child), then Michelle had affairs with both Doherty and [[Music/TheByrds Gene Clark]], as well as a relationship with record producer Russ Titelman. Then, years after both the band and the Phillips broke up, John and his daughter allegedly began another relationship.

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* LoveDodecahedron: Oooh, boy. Michelle and John Phillips were married when the band formed (and they had one child), then Michelle had affairs with both Doherty and [[Music/TheByrds Gene Clark]], as well as a relationship with record producer Russ Titelman. Then, years after both the band and the Phillips broke up, John and his daughter allegedly began another relationship.had sexual relations with [[Creator/MackenziePhillips his daughter]].
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* LoveDodecahedron: Oooh, boy. Michelle and John Phillips were married when the band formed (and they had one child), then Michelle had affairs with both Doherty and [[Music/TheByrds Gene Clark]], as well as a relationship with record producer Russ Titelman. Then, years after both the band and the Phillips broke up, John and [[IncestIsRelative his daughter]] allegedly began another relationship.

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* LoveDodecahedron: Oooh, boy. Michelle and John Phillips were married when the band formed (and they had one child), then Michelle had affairs with both Doherty and [[Music/TheByrds Gene Clark]], as well as a relationship with record producer Russ Titelman. Then, years after both the band and the Phillips broke up, John and [[IncestIsRelative his daughter]] daughter allegedly began another relationship.

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* NonAppearingTitle: "Creeque Alley"

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* NonAppearingTitle: "Creeque Alley"Alley".
* RockStarSong: "Creeque Alley" is a musical memoir about the band's struggle for success and commercial breakthrough.
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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich.

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* UrbanLegend: No, Cass didn't die by choking on a ham sandwich.sandwich.
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[[caption-width-right:300:From left to right: Denny Doherty, Michelle Phillips, John Phillips, Cass Elliot.]]
->''"All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray,\\
I've been for a walk on a winter's day,\\
I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A,\\
California dreamin' on such a winter's day."''
-->"California Dreamin'"

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->''"All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray,\\
gray\\
I've been for a walk on a winter's day,\\
day\\
I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A,\\
A.\\
California dreamin' on such a winter's day."''
-->"California Dreamin'"
day"''
-->-- "'''California Dreamin[='=]'''"

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