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* LeadBassist: Jeroen Paul Thesseling was a Type A, C, and D; not only did he contribute a great deal to the band's sound with his instantly recognizable style and tone, but he also attracted a great deal of press because of it in addition to having already been known in modern classical and microtonal music circles. Klausenitzer also qualifies for the exact same reasons, though his prior fame was as a session player.

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* LeadBassist: Jeroen Paul Thesseling was is a Type A, C, and D; not only did does he contribute a great deal to the band's sound with his instantly recognizable style and tone, but he also attracted attracts a great deal of press because of it in addition to having already been known in modern classical and microtonal music circles. Klausenitzer also qualifies for the exact same reasons, though his prior fame was as a session player.
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* SpecialGuest: They've had a few, with Tymon Kruidenier (Music/{{Cynic}}, Exivious), Ron Jarzombek (Watchtower, Spastic Ink, Blotted Science), Tommaso "Tommy" Talamanca (Sadist), and Florian "Morean" Maier (Dark Fortress) being among the more notable ones. Additionally, [[Music/DefeatedSanity Jacob Schmidt]] and [[Music/{{Death}} Steve]] [[Music/{{Testament}} DiGiorgio]] have filled in on bass for various tours, while [[Music/{{Revocation}} Dave Davidson]] and [[Music/TheFaceless Alex Rudinger]] were going to fill in for Geldschlaeger and Lanser, respectively (the former had left due to disagreements with Kummerer, the latter had injured his hand) on the Summer Slaughter Tour until visa issues forced them to drop off.

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* SpecialGuest: They've had a few, with Tymon Kruidenier (Music/{{Cynic}}, Exivious), Ron Jarzombek (Watchtower, Spastic Ink, Blotted Science), Tommaso "Tommy" Talamanca (Sadist), and Florian "Morean" Maier (Dark Fortress) being among the more notable ones. Additionally, [[Music/DefeatedSanity Jacob Schmidt]] and Schmidt]], [[Music/{{Death}} Steve]] [[Music/{{Testament}} DiGiorgio]] DiGiorgio]], and [[Music/{{Malignancy}} Alex Weber]] have filled in on bass for various tours, while and [[Music/DecrepitBirth Gabe Seeber]] has done the same on drums. Lastly, [[Music/{{Revocation}} Dave Davidson]] and [[Music/TheFaceless Alex Rudinger]] were going to fill in for Geldschlaeger and Lanser, respectively (the former had left due to disagreements with Kummerer, the latter had injured his hand) on the Summer Slaughter Tour until visa issues forced them to drop off.
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* ShoutOut: Christian's main lead in "Forsaken" directly quotes Jake E. Lee's main lead on [[Music/OzzyOsbourne "Bark at the Moon"]].

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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Hard 10 for their earlier material, soft 10 for ''Cosmogenesis'' and everything since then. Occasionally dips to a hard 9 on the more progressive-influenced tracks.



* UpdatedRerelease: ''Retribution'' was remastered and rereleased in 2010 with several bonus tracks and new cover art. The ''Illegimitation'' compilation could also be construed as an updated release of the demo of the same name, but it's got enough added on to count as a new release as well.

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* UpdatedRerelease: ''Retribution'' was remastered and rereleased in 2010 with several bonus tracks and new cover art. The ''Illegimitation'' compilation could also be construed as an updated release of the demo of the same name, but it's got enough added on to count as a new release as well.well.
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* EpicRocking: "Weltseele" tops the scales at 15:15; aside from that, there's "Aevum" (7:51), "Centric Flow" (7:25), "Septuagint" (7:18), "Sermon of the Seven Suns" (7:12), "Hymn to a Nocturnal Visitor" (6:33), "Prismal Dawn" (6:20), "An Epilogue to Infinity" (6:16), "Fractal Dimension" (6:14), "A Transcendental Serenade" (6:13), "Sentiment" (6:11), "Mortification of the Vulgar Sun" (6:09), "Velocity" (6:04), and "Imminent Disaster" (6:02).

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* EpicRocking: "Weltseele" tops the scales at 15:15; aside from that, there's "Aevum" (7:51), "Centric Flow" (7:25), "Septuagint" (7:18), "Forsaken" (7:16), "Sermon of the Seven Suns" (7:12), "Hymn to a Nocturnal Visitor" (6:33), "Prismal Dawn" (6:20), "An Epilogue to Infinity" (6:16), "Fractal Dimension" (6:14), "A Transcendental Serenade" (6:13), "Sentiment" (6:11), "Mortification of the Vulgar Sun" (6:09), "Velocity" (6:04), and "Imminent Disaster" (6:02).
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* ''A Valediction'' (2021)
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* MultinationalTeam: Steffen and Christian are from Germany, while Jeroen is from the Netherlands and David is from Austria, and they have had several other Austrians in the band over the years.
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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon (one of the new members was quickly confirmed to be a returning Jeroen Paul Thesseling, while David Diepold was revealed a few weeks later), and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.

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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon (one of the new members was quickly confirmed to be a returning Jeroen Paul Thesseling, while David Diepold was revealed a few weeks later), later and the return of Music/ChristianMuenzner completed the lineup), and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.
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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and was the first on their list of drummers to contact when Grossmann left. Lastly, David Diepold is known for his popular YouTube channel and overall prodigious technical ability.

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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and was the first on their list of drummers to contact when Grossmann left. Lastly, David Diepold is known for his popular YouTube [=YouTube=] channel and overall prodigious technical ability.
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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon (one of the new members was quickly confirmed to be a returning Jeroen Paul Thesseling), and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.

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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon (one of the new members was quickly confirmed to be a returning Jeroen Paul Thesseling), Thesseling, while David Diepold was revealed a few weeks later), and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.



* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and was the first on their list of drummers to contact when Grossmann left.

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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and was the first on their list of drummers to contact when Grossmann left. Lastly, David Diepold is known for his popular YouTube channel and overall prodigious technical ability.
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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon, and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.

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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon, soon (one of the new members was quickly confirmed to be a returning Jeroen Paul Thesseling), and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.

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At some point in 2020, Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser departed en masse and [[StartMyOwn formed Obsidious]]. Kummerer has stated that he has a new lineup that will be announced soon, and the band will enter the studio to record their fifth full-length.



* RevolvingDoorBand: Had huge problems with this early on. It calmed down a little with the ''Cosmogenesis'' lineup only to flare right back up again when Thesseling left in 2011, which was followed by Muenzner and Grossmann leaving in 2014 and the former's replacement leaving the year after. Only time will tell whether the current lineup will last.

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* RevolvingDoorBand: Had huge problems Like Music/TheFaceless, they have had a long and steady stream of inductions and departures, along with this early on. It calmed down a little with the ''Cosmogenesis'' lineup only to flare right back up again when Thesseling left in 2011, which was followed by Muenzner and Grossmann leaving in 2014 and the former's replacement leaving the year after. Only time will tell whether the current lineup will last.two large-scale departures of major writing members.



* StartMyOwn: Muenzner and Grossmann have solo projects (the latter's first album literally being nothing but songs that Kummerer threw out, though ''The Crypts of Sleep'' is 100% original material); additionally, they have teamed up with Klausenitzer, [[Music/{{Aborted}} Danny Tunker]], and Morean (of Dark Fortress fame) for the progressive metal project Alkaloid (which also had several would-be Obscura songs). Lastly, Kummerer helped start Thulcandra in 2003, though they never released anything other than a demo until 2010.

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* StartMyOwn: Muenzner and Grossmann have solo projects (the latter's first album literally being nothing but songs that Kummerer threw out, though ''The Crypts of Sleep'' is 100% original material); additionally, they have teamed up with Klausenitzer, [[Music/{{Aborted}} Danny Tunker]], and Morean (of Dark Fortress fame) for the progressive metal project Alkaloid (which also had several would-be Obscura songs). Trujillo, Klausenitzer, and Lanser would later go on to do the same with Obsidious in 2020. Lastly, Kummerer helped start Thulcandra in 2003, though they never released anything other than a demo until 2010.



* TheBandMinusTheFace: This was more or less the reaction when Muenzner and Grossmann left, as they were a very major part of the modern Obscura sound (the one that got them famous).
* TrueCompanions: The band as a whole is this with Dark Fortress and Noneuclid, while Muenzner is best buddies with [[Music/{{Aborted}} Danny Tunker]].

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* TheBandMinusTheFace: This was more or less the reaction when Muenzner and Grossmann left, as they were a very major part of the modern Obscura sound (the one that got them famous).
* TrueCompanions: The band as a whole is
famous). Trujillo and Lanser were eventually embraced, but in the wake of the second mass departure, this with Dark Fortress and Noneuclid, while Muenzner is best buddies with [[Music/{{Aborted}} Danny Tunker]].likely the case again.
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* IAmTheBand: Steffen Kummerer.
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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and

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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and was the first on their list of drummers to contact when Grossmann left.
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* ConceptAlbum: Their releases from ''Cosmogenesis'' to ''Diluvium'' were part of a large overarching concept tied to color (blue for ''Cosmogenesis'', green for ''Omnivium'', yellow for ''Akroasis'', red for ''Diluvium'') and stages of existence (creation, prosperity, complete achievement and stagnation, and destruction, respectively.

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* ConceptAlbum: Their releases from ''Cosmogenesis'' to ''Diluvium'' were part of a large overarching concept tied to color (blue for ''Cosmogenesis'', green for ''Omnivium'', yellow for ''Akroasis'', red for ''Diluvium'') and stages of existence (creation, prosperity, complete achievement and stagnation, and destruction, respectively.respectively).

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* ConceptAlbum: Their releases from ''Cosmogenesis'' to ''Diluvium'' were part of a large overarching concept tied to color (blue for ''Cosmogenesis'', green for ''Omnivium'', yellow for ''Akroasis'', red for ''Diluvium'') and stages of existence (creation, prosperity, complete achievement and stagnation, and destruction, respectively.



* JerkAss: Based on statements from former members, the high turnover, and the contentious nature of some of the more recent departures, Steffen Kummerer does not appear to be a very nice person. The departures of Grossmann (who was writing most of ''Akroasis'' until Kummerer suddenly threw out a bunch of his contributions because he didn't like Hannes having almost all of the writing credits despite apparently not really being a prolific contributor himself) and Geldschlaeger (who had to fight with Kummerer about everything, was fired right before a major tour, wasn't publicly credited on the ''Akroasis'' press release until fan outcry forced Kummerer to, which was done in an ''incredibly'' passive-aggressive manner, got a bunch of [=YouTube=] guitar videos of Obscura songs pulled at Kummerer's request, and has been the subject of multiple outright lies and bits of major historical revisionism) in particular paint him in a very unfavorable light.



* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments.

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* LeadDrummer: Hannes Grossmann is known for his extreme technical prowess and versatility, not to mention his compositional ability and skill with multiple other instruments. Sebastian Lanser, meanwhile, was already somewhat known for his own performances in Panzerballett, and



* SmallNameBigEgo: Seems to be the case for Steffen Kummerer. Between his issues with Grossmann (who started getting full songs thrown out on a regular basis just because Kummerer wanted more writing credits even though he apparently didn't even write that much) and Geldschlaeger (who had issues with him that were largely similar and then also became the victim of an incredibly nasty and vindictive attempt at a smear campaign), it's clear that most of his issues with other members stem from his own wounded pride, and his notoriously sloppy live performances do not help his cause.
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** ''Akroasis'' has "Weltseele" (15:12) preceding the outro "The Origin of Primal Expression".
** ''Diluvium'' closes with "An Epilogue To Infinity" (6:16) and the outro "A Last Farewell".
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* LongestSongGoesLast:
** ''Cosmogenesis'' closes with "Centric Flow" (7:25).
** ''Omnivium'' closes with "Aevum" (7:51)
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* ProgressiveMetal: A roughly 50/50 split between this and technical death. ''Diluvium'' is more of a 60/40 split.

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* ProgressiveMetal: A roughly 50/50 split between this and technical death. ''Diluvium'' is more of a 60/40 split.split in favor of prog.
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* ProgressiveMetal: A roughly 50/50 split between this and technical death.

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* ProgressiveMetal: A roughly 50/50 split between this and technical death. ''Diluvium'' is more of a 60/40 split.
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* EpicRocking: "Weltseele" tops the scales at 15:15; aside from that, there's "Aevum" (7:51), "Centric Flow" (7:25), "Septuagint" (7:18), "Sermon of the Seven Suns" (7:12), "Hymn to a Nocturnal Visitor" (6:33), "Prismal Dawn" (6:20), "Fractal Dimension" (6:14), "A Transcendental Serenade" (6:13), "Sentiment" (6:11), "Velocity" (6:04), and "Imminent Disaster" (6:02).

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* EpicRocking: "Weltseele" tops the scales at 15:15; aside from that, there's "Aevum" (7:51), "Centric Flow" (7:25), "Septuagint" (7:18), "Sermon of the Seven Suns" (7:12), "Hymn to a Nocturnal Visitor" (6:33), "Prismal Dawn" (6:20), "An Epilogue to Infinity" (6:16), "Fractal Dimension" (6:14), "A Transcendental Serenade" (6:13), "Sentiment" (6:11), "Mortification of the Vulgar Sun" (6:09), "Velocity" (6:04), and "Imminent Disaster" (6:02).
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* ''Diluvium'' (2018)

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