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** The Egyptian Pharaoh Thutmose III tried to erase his predecessor Hatshepsut from history by destroying monuments and essentially painting over hieroglyph murals. The fact that it was ''his mother'', who had led Egypt in a Golden Age (of admittedly strict rule), is just icing on the historical record cake. Oddly enough, he mostly succeeded, as the records that were destroyed have only recently been restored (partially) with advanced technology, and obviously missing some rather significant gaps.

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** The Egyptian Pharaoh Thutmose III (or possibly his son Amenhotep II) tried to erase his predecessor Hatshepsut from history by destroying monuments and essentially painting over hieroglyph murals. The fact that it was ''his mother'', who had led Egypt in a Golden Age (of admittedly strict rule), is just icing on the historical record cake. Oddly enough, he mostly succeeded, as the records that were destroyed have only recently been restored (partially) with advanced technology, and obviously missing some rather significant gaps. This was not done until significantly after Hatshepsut's death, and is believed to have been an attempt by her son and grandson to claim credit themselves for her accomplishments.

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* ''Anime/{{Daltanious}}'': After the BigBad reveals his true motive for destroying the Helios Empire - [[spoiler: centuries of abuse and discrimination towards clones like himself]] - he says this.
--> [[spoiler: '''Dolmen:''' ''"Kento Tate, even if I am dead, don't think for a second that this is over!"'']]
--> [[spoiler: '''Kento:''' ''"W-What?"'']]
--> [[spoiler: '''Dolmen:''' ''"As long as planets have a need for clones, or if clones like us exist on a planet somewhere...our hatred and sadness will never disappear!! There will come a time when the flames of rebellion will flare up again!"'']]
** To specifically avert this, [[spoiler: Harlin establishes the Galactic Federation Republic, a new nation where everyone is equal, clone or not]].


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* ''Anime/FutureRobotDaltanious'':
** After the BigBad reveals his true motive for destroying the Helios Empire ([[spoiler:centuries of abuse and discrimination towards clones like himself]]), he says this.
---> [[spoiler:'''Dolmen:''' Kento Tate, even if I am dead, don't think for a second that this is over!\\
'''Kento:''' W-What?\\
'''Dolmen:''' As long as planets have a need for clones, or if clones like us exist on a planet somewhere...our hatred and sadness will never disappear!! There will come a time when the flames of rebellion will flare up again!]]
** To specifically avert this, [[spoiler:Harlin establishes the Galactic Federation Republic, a new nation where everyone is equal, clone or not]].
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** In "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E13AngelOne Angel One]]", crewmen from a Federation freighter have been stranded on a planet ruled by a {{matriarchy}}. The ''Enterprise'' crew finds them, inadvertently [[NiceJobBreakingItHero revealing their hiding place to the local regime]]. The local leader originally intends to execute them, but Riker invokes this trope to convince her to [[DontCreateAMartyr reduce the sentence]] to exile in a distant region of the planet. She admits that she cannot kill the idea of gender equality, but handling the incident in a low-key manner will keep it from spreading too fast.
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* There were several sects of early Christians that are only known about by official church writings condemning them. In some cases, we only have the names and there must have been others where even that hasn't survived. But in other cases; we know about their ideas because of things like the Nicene Creed, which was writtent to specify ideas within early Christainity that the First Council of Nicaea rejected and which has been preserved by the Orthodox and Catholic Churches for the last 1700 years.

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* There were several sects of early Christians that are only known about by official church writings condemning them. In some cases, we only have the names and there must have been others where even that hasn't survived. But in In other cases; we know about their ideas because of things like the Nicene Creed, which was writtent to specify ideas within early Christainity that the First Council of Nicaea rejected and which has been preserved by the Orthodox and Catholic Churches for the last 1700 years.years, which was written at the First Council of Nicaea to specifically exclude certain ideas that had circulated within early Christainity.
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** "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS4E106HesAlive He's Alive]]" has it work for both good and bad. After Peter betrays his former friend Ernst and shoots him, Ernst warns him that the ideas he fought for -- equality, freedom and justice -- will not die by a single bullet. [[spoiler:At the end, when Peter dies, his SpiritAdvisor UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler returns to the shadows to find another to guide.]] Creator/RodSerling then warns the audience that the ideas that Hitler fought for -- oppression, hatred and prejudice -- are also ideas that will exist so long as people continue to allow them to.
** "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" deals with a man named Romney Wordsworth. He lives in a dystopian future where everything must have a purpose and able to fulfill that purpose or else the State shall declare the person obsolete and remove the person. If the person's purpose is similarly declared obsolete, then that too will carry the same punishment. Among the many things which the State declared obsolete is [[IllegalReligion religion]]. Not just Christianity, though that is Romney's faith as well. Even stating this during his trial on whether he is obsolete or not earns a fiery declaration from the Chancellor that there is no God because the State has proved that there is no God. In reference to this trope, Romney declares, "You cannot erase God with an edict." In a similar vein, after he is declared obsolete and sentenced to die, Romney crafts a plan to implant more than a few dangerous ideas into the audience his execution will be broadcasted to. [[spoiler:Romney has a bomb set up in his apartment and invites the Chancellor to his place, with the latter being ignorant to how Romney will die. Once inside, Romney locks the door and poses a challenge of faiths to the Chancellor; his in the unbending power of the State and Romney's in God. For the next half hour, as the time of the explosion draws near, Romney reads aloud from his Bible passages not just for his own strength but passages that those watching can find strength in to further resist. The Chancellor, knowing that his people won't openly save him as it would be a sign of weakness, breaks on television and screams in the name of God to be let out. In God's name, Romney unlocks the door but remains inside as the explosion kills him. The next day, for his disgraceful actions the Chancellor is now declared Obsolete and taken away by a horde to be killed]].

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** "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS4E106HesAlive "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S4E4HesAlive He's Alive]]" has it work for both good and bad. After Peter betrays his former friend Ernst and shoots him, Ernst warns him that the ideas he fought for -- equality, freedom and justice -- will not die by a single bullet. [[spoiler:At the end, when Peter dies, his SpiritAdvisor UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler returns to the shadows to find another to guide.]] Creator/RodSerling then warns the audience that the ideas that Hitler fought for -- oppression, hatred and prejudice -- are also ideas that will exist so long as people continue to allow them to.
** "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S2E29TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" deals with a man named Romney Wordsworth. He lives in a dystopian future where everything must have a purpose and able to fulfill that purpose or else the State shall declare the person obsolete and remove the person. If the person's purpose is similarly declared obsolete, then that too will carry the same punishment. Among the many things which the State declared obsolete is [[IllegalReligion religion]]. Not just Christianity, though that is Romney's faith as well. Even stating this during his trial on whether he is obsolete or not earns a fiery declaration from the Chancellor that there is no God because the State has proved that there is no God. In reference to this trope, Romney declares, "You cannot erase God with an edict." In a similar vein, after he is declared obsolete and sentenced to die, Romney crafts a plan to implant more than a few dangerous ideas into the audience his execution will be broadcasted to. [[spoiler:Romney has a bomb set up in his apartment and invites the Chancellor to his place, with the latter being ignorant to how Romney will die. Once inside, Romney locks the door and poses a challenge of faiths to the Chancellor; his in the unbending power of the State and Romney's in God. For the next half hour, as the time of the explosion draws near, Romney reads aloud from his Bible passages not just for his own strength but passages that those watching can find strength in to further resist. The Chancellor, knowing that his people won't openly save him as it would be a sign of weakness, breaks on television and screams in the name of God to be let out. In God's name, Romney unlocks the door but remains inside as the explosion kills him. The next day, for his disgraceful actions the Chancellor is now declared Obsolete and taken away by a horde to be killed]].

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