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* In a world full of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent unique dragons]] The dragons in TabletopGame/{{Epyllion}} are either good-hearted, or antagonistic by outside reasons, but [[RousseauWasRight never evil by choice]]. Becoming corrupted by the Darkness is never a good thing, but it is often unavoidable or sympathetically motivated. ([=PC=]s can gain a shadow even for getting hurt in battle, concealing their identity, or ignoring a friend's advice, among other things.) Nobody is irredeemable, and it's expected that [=PC=]s will often move into the Darkness and out of it.

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* In a world full of [[OurDragonsAreDifferent unique dragons]] The dragons in TabletopGame/{{Epyllion}} ''TabletopGame/{{Epyllion}}'' are either good-hearted, or antagonistic by outside reasons, but [[RousseauWasRight never evil by choice]]. Becoming corrupted by the Darkness is never a good thing, but it is often unavoidable or sympathetically motivated. ([=PC=]s can gain a shadow even for getting hurt in battle, concealing their identity, or ignoring a friend's advice, among other things.) Nobody is irredeemable, and it's expected that [=PC=]s will often move into the Darkness and out of it.


* Until recent editions, this was the case between the [[GoodIsOldFashioned naive, but swiftly learning Tau Emptire]] and the [[ShootTheDog jaded, hardened Imperium of Man]] from ''[[{{Tabletopgame/Warhammer40000}} Warhammer 40,000]]''. However, the optimistic and idealistic the alien Tau were found by, at least by some members of the fanbase, to be too [[WhiteAndGreyMorality idealistic and utopian]] to fit [[CrapsackWorld into the setting]][[note]]This might be an opinion about 5 or 10 years in the making[[/note]]. The Tau have since been "[[GreyAndGreyMorality greywashed]]", and while they do fit the setting's equivalent of the TheFederation, some recent fluff has stated that they may use concentration camps and "re-education" policies on worlds where the Imperium's xenophobic policies are too ingrained. The relationship between the Tau and the Imperium are further complicated by practices of {{Realpolitik}} and outright alliance by certain planets, though the official position is that the Tau must be exterminated someday.

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* Until recent editions, editions firmly set themselves into the iconic BlackAndGreyMorality setting, this was the case between the [[GoodIsOldFashioned naive, but swiftly learning Tau Emptire]] and the [[ShootTheDog jaded, hardened Imperium of Man]] from ''[[{{Tabletopgame/Warhammer40000}} Warhammer 40,000]]''. However, the optimistic and idealistic the alien Tau were found by, at least by some members of the fanbase, to be too [[WhiteAndGreyMorality [[TastesLikeDiabetes idealistic and utopian]] to fit [[CrapsackWorld into the setting]][[note]]This might be an opinion about 5 or 10 years in the making[[/note]]. The Tau have since been "[[GreyAndGreyMorality greywashed]]", and while they do fit the setting's equivalent of the TheFederation, some recent fluff has stated that they may use concentration camps and "re-education" policies on worlds where the Imperium's xenophobic policies are too ingrained. The relationship between the Tau and the Imperium are further complicated by practices of {{Realpolitik}} and outright alliance by certain planets, though the official position is that the Tau must be exterminated someday.



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* Surprisingly for an Assassin, and especially such a prominent one, Ratonhnhaké:ton (or just Connor for short) from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' internalizes the Templar's ideals in order to understand his true duty as an Assassin. (It helps that the Templars in this game as represented by [[spoiler:Haytham]] are far less rabid and more logical and well-intentioned, even if they are all major {{Jerkass}}es.) Connor never buys into the Templar propaganda, since his strong moral compass centers on his belief in freedom (which the Templars explicitly hate), but he never disregards them either. Typically, he acknowledges the wisdom in the Templars' dying words, but refuses to apologize for the deed on the grounds of the Templar in question being an irredeemable asshat.

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Surprisingly for an Assassin, and especially such a prominent one, Ratonhnhaké:ton (or just Connor for short) from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' internalizes the Templar's ideals in order to understand his true duty as an Assassin. (It helps that the Templars in this game as represented by [[spoiler:Haytham]] are far less rabid and more logical and well-intentioned, even if they are all major {{Jerkass}}es.) Connor never buys into the Templar propaganda, since his strong moral compass centers on his belief in freedom (which the Templars explicitly hate), but he never disregards them either. Typically, he acknowledges the wisdom in the Templars' dying words, but refuses to apologize for the deed on the grounds of the Templar in question being an irredeemable asshat.asshat.
** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity'': Arno himself believes in seeking peace, avoiding extremism and partisanship and the likes of Mirabeau and Master de la Serre are looked at with respect for their similar pragmatic approach. [[spoiler:While the Revolutionary Templars, the renegade Assassin Bellec and the revenge obsessed Élise are seen as self-destructive]].

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* Surprisingly for an Assassin, and especially such a prominent one, Ratonhnhaké:ton (or just Connor for short) from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' internalizes the Templar's ideals in order to understand his true duty as an Assassin. (It helps that the Templars in this game as represented by [[spoiler:Haytham]] are far less rabid and more logical and well-intentioned, even if they are all major {{Jerkass}}es.) Connor never buys into the Templar propaganda, since his strong moral compass centers on his belief in freedom (which the Templars explicitly hate), but he never disregards them either. Typically, he acknowledges the wisdom in the Templars' dying words, but refuses to apologize for the deed on the grounds of the Templar in question being an irredeemable asshat.


* ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'': Ashitaka was very much an AllLovingHero, but both Lady Eboshi and San had valid reasons for their actions. The enemy samurais seemed to be bad, but then, you feel if they had been explained then they too would have fair motivations.

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* ** ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'': Ashitaka was very much an AllLovingHero, but both Lady Eboshi and San had valid reasons for their actions. The enemy samurais seemed to be bad, but then, you feel if they had been explained then they too would have fair motivations.


* ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia'' is a pretty surprising and unexpected example of this trope, as[[AllLovingHero Captain Kizuna Hida]] discovers the conflict's nature after realizing that his opponents weren't as bad as he thought, although he is [[GoodIsNotSoft kind-hearted but not soft.]][[spoiler:The conflict between Earth/Lemuria and the AU/Batlantis Empire is this. The people from Batlantis invaded because Genesis, the pillar that supports the heaven and earth in their world, is crumbling down and they need to steal lots of magic power to stop this and prevent the end of the world. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, they don't really care what happens to the world they are invading or the people that live in it. On the other hand the people from "Lemuria" just want to defend their world and rescue those that were left behind when they were invaded. At first they aren't even aware that they are fighting against other humans.]]

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* ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia'' is a pretty surprising and unexpected example of this trope, as[[AllLovingHero as [[AllLovingHero Captain Kizuna Hida]] discovers the conflict's nature after realizing that his opponents weren't as bad as he thought, although he is [[GoodIsNotSoft kind-hearted but not soft.]][[spoiler:The conflict between Earth/Lemuria and the AU/Batlantis Empire is this. The people from Batlantis invaded because Genesis, the pillar that supports the heaven and earth in their world, is crumbling down and they need to steal lots of magic power to stop this and prevent the end of the world. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, they don't really care what happens to the world they are invading or the people that live in it. On the other hand the people from "Lemuria" just want to defend their world and rescue those that were left behind when they were invaded. At first they aren't even aware that they are fighting against other humans.]]


* ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia is a pretty surprising and unexpected example of this trope, as[[AllLovingHero Captain Kizuna Hida]] discovers the conflict's nature after realizing that his opponents weren't as bad as he thought, although he is [[GoodIsNotSoft kind-hearted but not soft.]][[spoiler:The conflict between Earth/Lemuria and the AU/Batlantis Empire is this. The people from Batlantis invaded because Genesis, the pillar that supports the heaven and earth in their world, is crumbling down and they need to steal lots of magic power to stop this and prevent the end of the world. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, they don't really care what happens to the world they are invading or the people that live in it. On the other hand the people from "Lemuria" just want to defend their world and rescue those that were left behind when they were invaded. At first they aren't even aware that they are fighting against other humans.]]

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* ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia'' is a pretty surprising and unexpected example of this trope, as[[AllLovingHero Captain Kizuna Hida]] discovers the conflict's nature after realizing that his opponents weren't as bad as he thought, although he is [[GoodIsNotSoft kind-hearted but not soft.]][[spoiler:The conflict between Earth/Lemuria and the AU/Batlantis Empire is this. The people from Batlantis invaded because Genesis, the pillar that supports the heaven and earth in their world, is crumbling down and they need to steal lots of magic power to stop this and prevent the end of the world. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, they don't really care what happens to the world they are invading or the people that live in it. On the other hand the people from "Lemuria" just want to defend their world and rescue those that were left behind when they were invaded. At first they aren't even aware that they are fighting against other humans.]]


* ''Anime/StellviaOfTheUniverse'' is all about this. There isn't even a single negative character in the series -- even the [[spoiler:aliens]] are good. Or at least, [[spoiler:they expressed regret after slaughtering a Keiti wing almost wholesale]].

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* ''Anime/StellviaOfTheUniverse'' is all about this. There The heroines are kind and selfless while there isn't even a single negative character in the series -- even the [[spoiler:aliens]] are good. Or at least, [[spoiler:they expressed regret after slaughtering a Keiti wing almost wholesale]].



* A common theme of Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's movies. [[AntiVillain The antagonists are sympathetic and/or have reasonable motivations]].

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* A common theme of Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's movies. [[AntiVillain The antagonists are sympathetic and/or have reasonable motivations]].motivations]], while the protagonists are [[NiceGuy kind]][[AllLovingHero -hearted]], or they [[CharacterDevelopment mature to be so.]]



* ''LightNovel/HybridXHeartMagiasAcademyAtaraxia is a pretty surprising and unexpected example of this trope, as[[AllLovingHero Captain Kizuna Hida]] discovers the conflict's nature after realizing that his opponents weren't as bad as he thought, although he is [[GoodIsNotSoft kind-hearted but not soft.]][[spoiler:The conflict between Earth/Lemuria and the AU/Batlantis Empire is this. The people from Batlantis invaded because Genesis, the pillar that supports the heaven and earth in their world, is crumbling down and they need to steal lots of magic power to stop this and prevent the end of the world. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, they don't really care what happens to the world they are invading or the people that live in it. On the other hand the people from "Lemuria" just want to defend their world and rescue those that were left behind when they were invaded. At first they aren't even aware that they are fighting against other humans.]]



* An important theme in ''Theatre/LadyWindermeresFan''. The woman whom the titular character thought to be irredeemably wicked makes an enormous self-sacrifice for her, forcing her to re-evaluate her worldview. Although evil is a subject discussed numerous times, especially by Lord and Lady Windermere, there turn out to be no wicked characters in the play.
* A number of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's comedies, such as ''Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream'', ''Theatre/TwelfthNight'', ''Theatre/LovesLaboursLost'', ''Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew'', ''Theatre/AllsWellThatEndsWell'' and ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor'' involve this. The antagonist, [[NoAntagonist if any]], is an AntiVillain or IneffectualSympatheticVillain.

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* An important theme in ''Theatre/LadyWindermeresFan''. The woman whom the titular character thought to be irredeemably wicked makes an enormous self-sacrifice for her, forcing her to re-evaluate her worldview. Although evil is a subject discussed numerous times, especially by Lord and Lady Windermere, there turn out to be no wicked characters in the play.play; just a misguided but well-meaning and good-hearted woman and a redeemable antagonist.
* A number of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's comedies, such as ''Theatre/AMidsummerNightsDream'', ''Theatre/TwelfthNight'', ''Theatre/LovesLaboursLost'', ''Theatre/TheTamingOfTheShrew'', ''Theatre/AllsWellThatEndsWell'' and ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor'' involve this. The protagonists, regardless of how quirky they are, happen to be [[NiceGuy pretty decent people]]. The antagonist, [[NoAntagonist if any]], is an AntiVillain or IneffectualSympatheticVillain.



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is stated to be this by the creators, with the heroes generally being [[DysfunctionJunction flawed]] but very moral overall, and the villains generally being either {{Anti Villain}}s with clear reasoning for their actions, [[WellIntentionedExtremist extremists]] who are opposed because of their methods, or [[TragicMonster unable to control their actions]]. Well, except [[HateSink Kevin, Marty and Aquamarine]]; they are jerks.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is stated to be this by the creators, with the heroes generally being [[DysfunctionJunction flawed]] but very moral overall, and the villains generally being either {{Anti Villain}}s with clear reasoning for their actions, [[WellIntentionedExtremist extremists]] who are opposed because of their methods, or [[TragicMonster unable to control their actions]]. Well, except [[HateSink Kevin, Marty and Aquamarine]]; they are jerks. It helps that the titular Steven himself is an AllLovingHero.


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* Dave Mason's "We Just Disagree."
-->''There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys. / There's only you and me and we just disagree.''
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* ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful:'' The good guys are good. The bad guys haven't thought things through (Cassilda), let their hearts (or other body parts) rule their actions (Ernie), behave in manners that at first seem shocking but are ultimately harmless (Michael), or could plausibly blame at least some of their issues on overly indulgent parenting (Danny). The only unambiguously evil characters is [[SinisterMinister Pastor Mandeville]].

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* ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful:'' The good guys are good. The bad guys haven't thought things through (Cassilda), let their hearts (or other body parts) rule their actions (Ernie), behave in manners that at first seem shocking but are ultimately harmless (Michael), or could plausibly blame at least some of their issues on overly indulgent parenting (Danny). The only unambiguously evil characters character is [[SinisterMinister Pastor Mandeville]].


* ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful:'' The good guys are good. The bad guys haven't thought things through (Cassilda), let their hearts (or [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other body parts]]) rule their actions (Ernie), behave in manners that at first seem shocking but are ultimately harmless (Michael), or could plausibly blame at least some of their issues on overly indulgent parenting (Danny). The only unambiguously evil characters is [[SinisterMinister Pastor Mandeville]].

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* ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful:'' The good guys are good. The bad guys haven't thought things through (Cassilda), let their hearts (or [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other body parts]]) parts) rule their actions (Ernie), behave in manners that at first seem shocking but are ultimately harmless (Michael), or could plausibly blame at least some of their issues on overly indulgent parenting (Danny). The only unambiguously evil characters is [[SinisterMinister Pastor Mandeville]].

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* ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful:'' The good guys are good. The bad guys haven't thought things through (Cassilda), let their hearts (or [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other body parts]]) rule their actions (Ernie), behave in manners that at first seem shocking but are ultimately harmless (Michael), or could plausibly blame at least some of their issues on overly indulgent parenting (Danny). The only unambiguously evil characters is [[SinisterMinister Pastor Mandeville]].


Contrast BlackAndGrayMorality, where an AntiHero is the best you can expect from the good guys; because TrueArtIsAngsty, though, this trope is a lot less common than that one, at least among works intended for older audiences. If the antagonists only became so due to a negative influence from outside, this may overlap with RousseauWasRight. In that case, the occasional villain may pop up, but they will inevitably be shown to be [[FreudianExcuse a victim of horrible circumstances that shaped them into what they became]] (rather than simply expressing a monstrous nature they always possessed). See also MoralityKitchenSink.

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Contrast BlackAndGrayMorality, where an AntiHero is the best you can expect from the good guys; because TrueArtIsAngsty, though, this trope is a lot less common than that one, at least among works intended for older audiences. If the antagonists only became so due to a negative influence from outside, this may overlap with RousseauWasRight. In that case, the occasional villain may pop up, but they will inevitably be shown to be [[FreudianExcuse a victim of horrible circumstances that shaped them into what they became]] (rather than simply expressing a monstrous nature they always possessed). See also RousseauWasRight, BothSidesHaveAPoint, GoodVersusGood, ALighterShadeOfGray, GreyAndGrayMorality, and MoralityKitchenSink.


** ''WesternAnimation/WallE'', absolutely. On one hand, the titular Wall-E is a [[CuteMachine friendly and lovable robot]] with a sense of curiosity, and EVE started off as cold and demanding until she TookALevelInKindness. On the other hand, the villain of the film was [[spoiler:a robot that was [[PunchClockVillain doing exactly what it was programmed to do]] by programmers who themselves just had incomplete information]], and all the humans soon fell head over heels in love with the world as soon as they were jerked out of their reverie and take responsibility to work to undo their ancestors' mistakes.
** ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'': Marlin may be an OverprotectiveFather, but he [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold means well]] for his son, the titular Nemo. Dory herself is a Ditz, but she comes off as a NiceGirl. Dr. Sherman took Nemo because he mistakenly believed he would not be able to survive on his own with a deformed fin, and Darla is a "fish-killer" because she is a child who doesn't know any better. The other antagonists of the film are simply mindless predators. It's worth noting that both ''Finding Nemo'' and ''WALL•E'' were directed by Andrew Stanton.

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** ''WesternAnimation/WallE'', absolutely. On one hand, the titular Wall-E is a [[CuteMachine [[CuteMachines friendly and lovable robot]] with a sense of curiosity, and EVE started off as cold and demanding until she TookALevelInKindness. On the other hand, the villain of the film was [[spoiler:a robot that was [[PunchClockVillain doing exactly what it was programmed to do]] by programmers who themselves just had incomplete information]], and all the humans soon fell head over heels in love with the world as soon as they were jerked out of their reverie and take responsibility to work to undo their ancestors' mistakes.
** ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'': Marlin may be an OverprotectiveFather, OverprotectiveDad, but he [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold means well]] for his son, the titular Nemo. Dory herself is a Ditz, but she comes off as a NiceGirl. Dr. Sherman took Nemo because he mistakenly believed he would not be able to survive on his own with a deformed fin, and Darla is a "fish-killer" because she is a child who doesn't know any better. The other antagonists of the film are simply mindless predators. It's worth noting that both ''Finding Nemo'' and ''WALL•E'' were directed by Andrew Stanton.


* Creator/IsaacAsimov tended to be this way. He also had no real villains in his books. Asimov and Creator/KurtVonnegut were much alike. In the ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series, the psycho-historians behind the GambitRoulette believe every conflict in human history comes from people not understanding each other. This is no GutFeeling: they have human reactions and brain chemistry [[ScienceMarchesOn down to an exact science]].

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