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* [[http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo_(Temporal) Limbo]] in the Marvel Universe (mainly shows up in association with ''ComicBook/XMen'') is an entire ''dimension'' of timey-wimeyness. When the X-Men entered and got separated, both Wolverine and Colossus encountered long-dead versions of each other, and managed to escape just fine in the end. ComicBook/{{Storm}} was stopped at one point by her older self, who had remained in Limbo for decades studying magic. And ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}} killed his older self.

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* [[http://marvel.wikia.[[https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Limbo_(Temporal) Limbo]] in the Marvel Universe (mainly shows up in association with ''ComicBook/XMen'') is an entire ''dimension'' of timey-wimeyness. When the X-Men entered and got separated, both Wolverine and Colossus encountered long-dead versions of each other, and managed to escape just fine in the end. ComicBook/{{Storm}} was stopped at one point by her older self, who had remained in Limbo for decades studying magic. And ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}} killed his older self.



* ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' has different things happening to the hero as the past is changed. Read the timeline for the trilogy at [[http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Back_to_the_Future_timeline this page]] if you have any questions about how it works. There isn't a single concern here that isn't covered there one way or another. To summarize, you ''can'' create alternate timelines, and any time it ''seems'' YouAlreadyChangedThePast (like Chuck Berry hearing the song he would later write) it's really just causing the same event in a different way (in the original timeline Chuck Berry ''did'' come up with the song entirely by himself).

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* ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' has different things happening to the hero as the past is changed. Read the timeline for the trilogy at [[http://backtothefuture.wikia.[[https://backtothefuture.fandom.com/wiki/Back_to_the_Future_timeline this page]] if you have any questions about how it works. There isn't a single concern here that isn't covered there one way or another. To summarize, you ''can'' create alternate timelines, and any time it ''seems'' YouAlreadyChangedThePast (like Chuck Berry hearing the song he would later write) it's really just causing the same event in a different way (in the original timeline Chuck Berry ''did'' come up with the song entirely by himself).

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** [[LampshadeHanging "You mustn't interfere with the past. Don't do anything that affects anything, unless it turns out you were supposed to do it. In which case, for the love of God, don't not do it!"]]


* ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' introduces time travel as a way to get what is necessary to reset its predecessor's DownerEnding, one scene has Bruce Banner saying he will prevent paradoxes by only "borrowing from the past", and at least twice Banner complains about people thinking time travel works the same way as in the movies. [[spoiler:And the worst part is, it does. At least in that the Avengers cause one paradox in the past (instead of Loki and the Tesseract being returned to Asgard after [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Battle of New York]], Loki uses the Tesseract to escape the Avengers' custody), and during his trip to return the Infinity Stones to their original locations, Captain America manages to live the life with Peggy Carter that he originally couldn't.]]

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* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' which introduces time travel as a way to get what is necessary to reset [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar its predecessor's predecessor]]'s DownerEnding, one scene has Bruce Banner saying he will prevent paradoxes by only "borrowing from the past", and at least twice Banner complains about people thinking time travel works the same way as in the movies. [[spoiler:And the worst part is, it does. At least in [[spoiler:It's explained that instead of creating paradoxes, altering the past would create AlternateUniverses with no effect on their own but the Avengers cause didn't simply want to leave other realities for dead by keeping their stones. Despite this the Avengers inadvertently end up creating at least three alternate timelines; one paradox in the past (instead where instead of Loki and the Tesseract being returned to Asgard after [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Battle of New York]], Loki uses the Tesseract to escape the Avengers' custody), custody while Cap learns Bucky is alive early, one where Thanos and his army died in 2014 around the start of ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', and during his trip to return the Infinity Stones to their original locations, Captain America manages to live the life with Peggy Carter that he originally couldn't.couldn't with an alternate Peggy Carter.]]


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* ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': The alien zones don't always use "time" as we humans understand it, but something called "layers." Chronology can sometimes jump around on its own, via layers, without Fern needing to enter a time machine:
-->'''Staph:''' As you read this letter, our kingdom will have undergone many generations of development... at least from our perception. Don't fret! In your own perception sphere, we are very much alive, and I'm certain you will have an opportunity to drop in and say 'hello.' Does that make sense? Sorry, we still don't really have a handle on how you experience the layers.



* ''Webcomic/BreakpointCity'' can't decide quite how time travel works.

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* %%* ''Webcomic/BreakpointCity'' can't decide quite how time travel works.



* The sequel fic ''[[Webcomic/RichsComixBlog Forever Janette]]'' intentionally invokes the Timey-Wimey Ball by subverting the show's use of SanDimasTime -- by letting the Fifth Doctor meet the Master from the Seventh Doctor's time. It doesn't say how this is possible, other than a passing mention that the two Time Lords are "off-phase" from a common Gallifreyan synchronicity.



* The sequel fic ''[[Webcomic/RichsComixBlog Forever Janette]]'' intentionally invokes the Timey-Wimey Ball by subverting the show's use of SanDimasTime -- by letting the Fifth Doctor meet the Master from the Seventh Doctor's time. It doesn't say how this is possible, other than a passing mention that the two Time Lords are "off-phase" from a common Gallifreyan synchronicity.
* Time travel in ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'' at first ''appears'' to work in a StableTimeLoop fashion, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler:It's possible to "break" a StableTimeLoop, an action capable of ''destroying the entire universe.'' [[OhCrap Several time loops have already been broken]]]]. And now [[spoiler:Every universe, save the "espionage" theme universe, has been destroyed. They got better]]. [[RunningGag And now]] apparently the timeline is too broken to go back pre-1933 (specifically the date of the Reichstag Fire). Complete with a link to this very article.
* ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' has a big fat temporal loop in the Kethenecia arc in Book 3, but really the arc underlies the whole story so far. It's still uncertain if the protagonists can actually change the timeline should they chose to, since so far they did their best to fulfill the prophecies.
* It's openly stated by a member of the TimePolice in ''Webcomic/LsEmpire'' that all bets are off if you time travel via magic.
* Trying to track the [[RetGone timeline changes]] in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' may lead to you repeating this trope name [[MadnessMantra over and over and over again]].
* ''Webcomic/MinionsAtWork:'' [[http://www.theminionsatwork.com/comic/a-paradox-is-not-a-pair-remastered-sorta/ Pretend it never happened]].
* ''Webcomic/{{Narbonic}}'':
** An extended time-travel subplot establishes that it is difficult, but not impossible, to change your own history. Physical time-travel takes all the energy that exists in the Universe [[spoiler:or, as it turns out, in some other universe that's just out of luck]], but it's possible to transfer your consciousness back or forward in time into your own body, and you can undergo changes as a result of altered behavior. For instance, Dave never smoked. At several points, the question of paradoxes comes up, and it is immediately dismissed by pointing out that thinking about it could cause it to happen, so it's better not to.
** The same storyline provides an example of inconsistent time travel effects within a single sub-plot. Dave didn't cease to have ever smoked until after the time travel; however, [[spoiler:Caliban's demotion]], though also caused by the time travel, was established backstory before the time travel occurred.



** The Doctor's [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E10Blink Trope-Naming]] soundbite is used in [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew]] from the Alternia Bound album.

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** The Doctor's [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E10Blink Trope-Naming]] soundbite is used in [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew]] "Arisen Anew"]] from the Alternia Bound album.



* ''WebComic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings'' heavily lampshades this trope. The main requirement to avoid the variety of paradoxes is "Don't think about time travel".

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* ''WebComic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings'' Time travel in ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'' at first ''appears'' to work in a StableTimeLoop fashion, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler:It's possible to "break" a StableTimeLoop, an action capable of ''destroying the entire universe.'' [[OhCrap Several time loops have already been broken]]]]. And now [[spoiler:Every universe, save the "espionage" theme universe, has been destroyed. They got better]]. [[RunningGag And now]] apparently the timeline is too broken to go back pre-1933 (specifically the date of the Reichstag Fire). Complete with a link to this very article.
* ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' has a big fat temporal loop in the Kethenecia arc in Book 3, but really the arc underlies the whole story so far. It's still uncertain if the protagonists can actually change the timeline should they chose to, since so far they did their best to fulfill the prophecies.
* It's openly stated by a member of the TimePolice in ''Webcomic/LsEmpire'' that all bets are off if you time travel via magic.
* ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings''
heavily lampshades this trope. The main requirement to avoid the variety of paradoxes is "Don't think about time travel".



* This is probably gonna be the only way to understand the whole time traveling bit in ''Webcomic/{{Sonichu}}''. To wit, AuthorAvatar Chris is launched into the future where he is able to help those in the future [[CureYourGays make the vaccine for homosexuality]] (even if that's not how it works) before being able to convince his future wife Lovely Weather he is his future self (despite the fact that he'd be ten or so years older) and do the nasty. He comes back, gives Magi-Chan Sonichu a Sonichu Ball and tells him to go back and get some of the vaccine to bring back to the past so they can cure everyone years earlier. And while he does talk to the past version of Lovely Weather, there's the case of the vaccine - if he brought the vaccine back from the past to cure everyone, why would there be a need for it in the future and oh, going cross-eyed.

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%%* ''Webcomic/MinionsAtWork:'' [[http://www.theminionsatwork.com/comic/a-paradox-is-not-a-pair-remastered-sorta/ Pretend it never happened]].
* This is probably gonna be Trying to track the only way [[RetGone timeline changes]] in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' may lead to understand you repeating this trope name [[MadnessMantra over and over and over again]].
* ''Webcomic/{{Narbonic}}'':
** An extended time-travel subplot establishes that it is difficult, but not impossible, to change your own history. Physical time-travel takes all
the whole time traveling bit in ''Webcomic/{{Sonichu}}''. To wit, AuthorAvatar Chris is launched into the future where he is able to help those energy that exists in the future [[CureYourGays make the vaccine for homosexuality]] (even if Universe [[spoiler:or, as it turns out, in some other universe that's just out of luck]], but it's possible to transfer your consciousness back or forward in time into your own body, and you can undergo changes as a result of altered behavior. For instance, Dave never smoked. At several points, the question of paradoxes comes up, and it is immediately dismissed by pointing out that thinking about it could cause it to happen, so it's better not how it works) to.
** The same storyline provides an example of inconsistent time travel effects within a single sub-plot. Dave didn't cease to have ever smoked until after the time travel; however, [[spoiler:Caliban's demotion]], though also caused by the time travel, was established backstory
before being able to convince his future wife Lovely Weather he is his future self (despite the fact that he'd be ten or so years older) and do the nasty. He comes back, gives Magi-Chan Sonichu a Sonichu Ball and tells him to go back and get some of the vaccine to bring back to the past so they can cure everyone years earlier. And while he does talk to the past version of Lovely Weather, there's the case of the vaccine - if he brought the vaccine back from the past to cure everyone, why would there be a need for it in the future and oh, going cross-eyed.time travel occurred.



* This is probably gonna be the only way to understand the whole time traveling bit in ''Webcomic/{{Sonichu}}''. To wit, AuthorAvatar Chris is launched into the future where he is able to help those in the future [[CureYourGays make the vaccine for homosexuality]] (even if that's not how it works) before being able to convince his future wife Lovely Weather he is his future self (despite the fact that he'd be ten or so years older) and do the nasty. He comes back, gives Magi-Chan Sonichu a Sonichu Ball and tells him to go back and get some of the vaccine to bring back to the past so they can cure everyone years earlier. And while he does talk to the past version of Lovely Weather, there's the case of the vaccine - if he brought the vaccine back from the past to cure everyone, why would there be a need for it in the future and oh, going cross-eyed.



* ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': The alien zones don't always use "time" as we humans understand it, but something called "layers." Chronology can sometimes jump around on its own, via layers, without Fern needing to enter a time machine:
-->'''Staph:''' As you read this letter, our kingdom will have undergone many generations of development... at least from our perception. Don't fret! In your own perception sphere, we are very much alive, and I'm certain you will have an opportunity to drop in and say 'hello.' Does that make sense? Sorry, we still don't really have a handle on how you experience the layers.



** On the [=DVD=] commentary for "Roswell," the writers say that they initially intended to avoid doing any time travel stories, because it's basically impossible to make them make sense, but eventually they couldn't resist.

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** On the [=DVD=] commentary for "Roswell," "Roswell", the writers say that they initially intended to avoid doing any time travel stories, because it's basically impossible to make them make sense, but eventually they couldn't resist.resist.
* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'' has characters change the past through time travel frequently, yet also has a number of gags that rely on the assumption of a StableTimeLoop. It's also inconsistent about when characters can or can't remember events that got erased from the timeline.



* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'' has characters change the past through time travel frequently, yet also has a number of gags that rely on the assumption of a StableTimeLoop. It's also inconsistent about when characters can or can't remember events that got erased from the timeline.

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* ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' introduces time travel as a way to get what is necessary to reset its predecessor's DownerEnding, one scene has Bruce Banner saying he will prevent paradoxes by only "borrowing from the past", and at least twice Banner complains about people thinking time travel works the same way as in the movies. [[spoiler:And the worst part is, it does. At least in that the Avengers cause one paradox in the past (instead of Loki and the Tesseract being returned to Asgard after [[Film/TheAvengers2012 the Battle of New York]], Loki uses the Tesseract to escape the Avengers' custody), and during his trip to return the Infinity Stones to their original locations, Captain America manages to live the life with Peggy Carter that he originally couldn't.]]


** During Bendis' run on two Avengers titles he floated the idea that time is both like a livong(which it technically is, embodied by the SentientCosmicForce that is Infinity) that occurs all at once and is damaged by time travel. These theories were hypothesized by Iron Man during conflicts with Kang after one time travel too many to change one moment and defeat Ultron [[TimeCrash broke the spacetime continuum]] and collided multiple potential futures and parallel realities with their present. This would be revisited (or recycled based on how cynical one is) during [[ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} Age of Ultron]] where another conflict with Ultron involving too much time travel led to another crash. This time the effects were further reaching, where insteas multiple people in parallel universes were struck dead and others still were permanently shuffled around the multiverse.

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** During Bendis' run on two Avengers titles he floated the idea that time is both like a livong(which living thing(which it technically is, embodied by the SentientCosmicForce that is Infinity) that occurs all at once and is damaged by time travel. These theories were hypothesized by Iron Man during conflicts with Kang after one time travel too many to change one moment and defeat Ultron [[TimeCrash broke the spacetime continuum]] and collided multiple potential futures and parallel realities with their present. This would be revisited (or recycled based on how cynical one is) during [[ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} Age of Ultron]] where another conflict with Ultron involving too much time travel led to another crash. This time the effects were further reaching, where insteas instead multiple people in parallel universes were struck dead and others still were permanently shuffled around the multiverse.


** During Bendis' run on two Avengers titles he floated the idea that time is both alive in a sense (which it technically is, embodied by the SentientCosmicForce that is Infinity) and that it occurs all at once. These theories were hypothesized by Iron Man during conflicts with Kang after one time travel too many to change one moment and defeat Ultron [[TimeCrash broke the spacetime continuum]] and collided multiple potential futures and parallel realities with their present. This would be revisited (or recycled based on how cynical one is) during ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} where another conflict with Ultron involving too much time travel led to another crash whose effects were further reaching and more permanently shuffled individuals around the multiverse.

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** During Bendis' run on two Avengers titles he floated the idea that time is both alive in like a sense (which livong(which it technically is, embodied by the SentientCosmicForce that is Infinity) and that it occurs all at once.once and is damaged by time travel. These theories were hypothesized by Iron Man during conflicts with Kang after one time travel too many to change one moment and defeat Ultron [[TimeCrash broke the spacetime continuum]] and collided multiple potential futures and parallel realities with their present. This would be revisited (or recycled based on how cynical one is) during ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} [[ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} Age of Ultron]] where another conflict with Ultron involving too much time travel led to another crash whose crash. This time the effects were further reaching reaching, where insteas multiple people in parallel universes were struck dead and more others still were permanently shuffled individuals around the multiverse.

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** During Bendis' run on two Avengers titles he floated the idea that time is both alive in a sense (which it technically is, embodied by the SentientCosmicForce that is Infinity) and that it occurs all at once. These theories were hypothesized by Iron Man during conflicts with Kang after one time travel too many to change one moment and defeat Ultron [[TimeCrash broke the spacetime continuum]] and collided multiple potential futures and parallel realities with their present. This would be revisited (or recycled based on how cynical one is) during ComicBook/{{AgeOfUltron}} where another conflict with Ultron involving too much time travel led to another crash whose effects were further reaching and more permanently shuffled individuals around the multiverse.

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* There's at least one Stand user in every arc[[note]]Except for [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Phantom Blood]] and [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Battle Tendency]], which did not feature Stands at all[[/note]] of ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' capable of manipulating time (and at least one other that can predict the future but not travel through time). All of them seem to operate on slightly different rules as to whether or not the past and/or future can be changed[[note]]With the exception of The World, which can only freeze time, not travel through it.[[/note]].
** The predictive Stand, Thoth, predicts specific events in the near future. No one, not even its user, can stop those events from happening, but they're always vague enough for PropheticFallacy to be in full effect; for example, it predicts that Jotaro would have his head split in half by an explosion, but the brother of Thoth's user disguised himself as Jotaro to avert suspicion and ended up being the one to be hit by an explosion. [[spoiler:Of course, Thoth's predictions might not be so malleable after all - Jotaro dies onscreen ''twice'' in future parts, and both times his head gets split in half in the exact same pattern predicted by Thoth.]]
** In the next part, Yoshikage Kira's 'Killer Queen Bites The Dust' has the power to trap its victim in a [[GroundhogDayLoop one-hour time loop.]] Anything that happens in the loops will happen again in all subsequent loops, though the leadup to those happenings may be different; for example, when Hayato managed to stop the teapot from falling off the table, the handle of Kira's teacup broke a few moments later, spilling tea all over his jacket, and after Rohan triggered [[HavingABlast Killer Queen's bomb]] in the first loop, he still exploded in the subsequent loop even though he didn't trigger the bomb. However, if Kira ends the loops before they complete, events that should have been fixed no longer happen.
** In the part after that, Diavolo has the stand King Crimson, which is so infamously confusing that 'how does King Crimson work' has [[MemeticMutation become a meme]]. First of all, King Crimson itself has a sub-Stand called 'Epitaph' that functions almost identically to Thoth, in that it can predict the future at a range of up to ten seconds, and the predictions it shows cannot be changed but are vague enough to be subject to PropheticFallacy. (This is seen in one story arc when Doppio is granted access to Epitaph but not King Crimson.) King Crimson's power, however, allows it to 'skip' those ten seconds, making it so that any unfavorable outcomes Epitaph predicts simply ''don't'' have to happen.
** Then there's Part Six, where Enrico Pucci eventually evolves his stand into 'Made in Heaven', which has the power to ''accelerate'' time. He uses this power to push the universe forward to the Big Crunch and recreate it. The new universe is exactly identical to the original, except that everyone living in it already knows everything that's ever going to happen to them and is unable to change it.[[note]]This is Pucci's idea of what he refers to as 'Heaven'; a world without surprises.[[/note]] Only Pucci is capable of changing events, though once he's changed someone's fate, they are able to act freely, as anything they do from then on is considered a 'butterfly effect' repercussion of Pucci's actions.
** Finally, in Part Seven, Ringo Roadagain has the stand Mandom, which allows him to rewind time by six seconds. Unlike most previous time-travel arcs, Ringo can freely change anything that happens in those six seconds; he typically allows his enemy to deal him a mortal wound, memorizes their movements and position, then rewinds, dodges their attack, and kills them. He'd probably be the most formidable of all the listed users if not for the fact that ''everyone else'' can also remember what happened in the six seconds Ringo rewinds, and, if they're clever enough to figure out what his power is, can take advantage of it to change ''their'' actions as well.


** Eclipse comes back into play again (this time in a much stabler way) when it's revealed [[spoiler:Lucy's ancestor, Anna, worked with Zeref to send Natsu and the other Dragon Slayers 400 years from the past through the gate. For this to work, the gate in the past was set to lead only to the time when one of Anna's descendants opened it on the other side, leaving specific instructions for them to pass along until it reached Layla, Lucy's mother, on July 7, X777, a good 14 years before the above fiasco happened.]]

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** Eclipse comes back into play again (this time in a much stabler way) when it's revealed [[spoiler:Lucy's ancestor, Anna, worked with Zeref to send Natsu and the other Dragon Slayers 400 years from the past through the gate. For this to work, the gate in the past was set to lead only to the time when one of Anna's descendants opened it on the other side, leaving Anna left specific instructions for them her descendants to pass open the gate on the other side when the time was right, which was passed along until it reached Layla, Lucy's mother, on July 7, X777, a good 14 years before the above fiasco happened.]]


* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. The first thing we hear about time travel is that it's like a picture book; it looks continuous, but it's not, and scribbling on one page won't change the ending, so it's impossible to change the future. That gets thrown out the window pretty quick, with [[StableTimeLoop time loops]] up the wazoo. Several space-time locations get multiple time loops overlapping over them at the same time. However, starting in Novel 9, [[spoiler: the timeline splits-- not diverges, ''splits''-- and later fuses back together]], and in novel 10 it is revealed that [[spoiler:the evil time traveler Fujiwara is from a different future than Mikuru. In his, she's dead--and he wants to fix that, because she's his big sister. Unfortunately, in the timeline she's from (where she survived), her little brother never existed in the first place]]. So it's possible to change the future, right? Maybe. Because when all this craziness is going on, Kyon brings up the picture book analogy again, and it's confirmed that that ''is'' how time travel works (though at the same time it's implied to be an incomplete explanation). The mechanics of time travel in TheVerse are pretty much incoherent now.

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* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. The first thing we hear about time travel is that it's like a picture book; it looks continuous, but it's not, and scribbling on one page won't change the ending, so it's impossible to change the future. That gets thrown out the window pretty quick, with [[StableTimeLoop time loops]] up the wazoo. Several space-time locations get multiple time loops overlapping over them at the same time. However, starting in Novel 9, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the timeline splits-- not diverges, ''splits''-- and later fuses back together]], and in novel 10 it is revealed that [[spoiler:the evil time traveler Fujiwara is from a different future than Mikuru. In his, she's dead--and he wants to fix that, because she's his big sister. Unfortunately, in the timeline she's from (where she survived), her little brother never existed in the first place]]. So it's possible to change the future, right? Maybe. Because when all this craziness is going on, Kyon brings up the picture book analogy again, and it's confirmed that that ''is'' how time travel works (though at the same time it's implied to be an incomplete explanation). The mechanics of time travel in TheVerse are pretty much incoherent now.



* Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/AdamWarlock'', specifically his evil future self The Magus embodies this trope. Adam Warlock met his futureself and immediately The Magus set about trying to ensure Adam would turn into him. This did not work when "Thanos" and the In-Betweener interfered and Adam was given a choice of timelines, wherein he chose the shortest. The Magus appeared again when Adam Warlock attained the Infinity Gauntlet and divested himself of his good self (The Goddess) and his evil self (The Magus). The Magus initiated the Infinity War, but was defeated. Later, to seal the Fault in space caused, in part by the Annihilation Wave, The Phalanx Invasion, and the War of Kings, Adam Warlock [[spoiler: who, as he expanded magical energy slowly started turning into The Magus, used an "unused" timeline to repair the fault. That particular "unused" timeline was the one in which he became The Magus]].

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* Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/AdamWarlock'', specifically his evil future self The Magus embodies this trope. Adam Warlock met his futureself and immediately The Magus set about trying to ensure Adam would turn into him. This did not work when "Thanos" and the In-Betweener interfered and Adam was given a choice of timelines, wherein he chose the shortest. The Magus appeared again when Adam Warlock attained the Infinity Gauntlet and divested himself of his good self (The Goddess) and his evil self (The Magus). The Magus initiated the Infinity War, but was defeated. Later, to seal the Fault in space caused, in part by the Annihilation Wave, The Phalanx Invasion, and the War of Kings, Adam Warlock [[spoiler: who, [[spoiler:who, as he expanded magical energy slowly started turning into The Magus, used an "unused" timeline to repair the fault. That particular "unused" timeline was the one in which he became The Magus]].



** The Flash himself historically averted this trope when at all possible. Barry and Wally repeatedly refused to even try holding the Timey-Wimey Ball. [[spoiler: Until Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}}. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]

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** The Flash himself historically averted this trope when at all possible. Barry and Wally repeatedly refused to even try holding the Timey-Wimey Ball. [[spoiler: Until [[spoiler:Until Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}}. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]



* In the 1980s Marvel ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' comic, one can alter the past to suit the present. However, there is also the possibility that one travels to a different universe that is simply the same as your own. So thus, any attempt to travel back in time to, say, [[spoiler: build a giant cannon to destroy the dark god who created you when he turns his attention to Earth in order to free yourself from his control as Galvatron tried to]], can potentially end in failure as it is not your own universe. [[spoiler: As it turned out, it WAS Galvatron's own universe.]]

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* In the 1980s Marvel ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' comic, one can alter the past to suit the present. However, there is also the possibility that one travels to a different universe that is simply the same as your own. So thus, any attempt to travel back in time to, say, [[spoiler: build [[spoiler:build a giant cannon to destroy the dark god who created you when he turns his attention to Earth in order to free yourself from his control as Galvatron tried to]], can potentially end in failure as it is not your own universe. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As it turned out, it WAS Galvatron's own universe.]]



** But due to [[spoiler: Sam, Aunties and their "employers"]]'s intervention, a new future, different [=CrucibleVerse=] is created by pulling the bad future backwards and, as it can't survive on its own, [[ParallelUniverse branching off from the main timeline like a Siamese twin]]. In new time line, [[spoiler: the souls of those time travellers from the BadFuture]] are put into their younger bodies while alt.Jane [[spoiler: meet her main counterpart to know everything that happened in the now disappeared bad future to change the new twin universe for the better]]. This also cause Life and Death from the main timeline to work double-duty since they partly exist outside of time and space.

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** But due to [[spoiler: Sam, [[spoiler:Sam, Aunties and their "employers"]]'s intervention, a new future, different [=CrucibleVerse=] is created by pulling the bad future backwards and, as it can't survive on its own, [[ParallelUniverse branching off from the main timeline like a Siamese twin]]. In new time line, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the souls of those time travellers from the BadFuture]] are put into their younger bodies while alt.Jane [[spoiler: meet [[spoiler:meet her main counterpart to know everything that happened in the now disappeared bad future to change the new twin universe for the better]]. This also cause Life and Death from the main timeline to work double-duty since they partly exist outside of time and space.



* The time travel in ''Film/AboutTime'' appears to have at least two different modes, but the explanation is very scanty. Tim can go back to a previous occasion and change what he did, but then he can choose to either live from that point onwards, or snap forward to where he jumped from and see what the changes have been. The event described in SecretKeeper seems to suggest [[spoiler: he can also undo these changes.]]

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* The time travel in ''Film/AboutTime'' appears to have at least two different modes, but the explanation is very scanty. Tim can go back to a previous occasion and change what he did, but then he can choose to either live from that point onwards, or snap forward to where he jumped from and see what the changes have been. The event described in SecretKeeper seems to suggest [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he can also undo these changes.]]



* ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'' is really inconsistent with its time travel mechanics. Four friends travel back to one day in 1986 and hijack their younger bodies, so everyone sees them as their younger selves. Except one of the friends - Jacob - wasn't born yet and looks the same in the past as he did in the present, and can also interact with the past, but whenever something happens that might possibly stop his conception he flickers out temporarily. Initially the friends, fearing the ButterflyOfDoom, try to enact a StableTimeLoop by making sure the big events they remember from that night still happen, but then they change their minds and try to make sure the night goes better the second time around. Some of the big events they remember still happen no matter what they do, but no in the way they remember them. Other events they really do alter. Meanwhile they directly or indirectly cause a couple of historical changes. [[spoiler: In the end Lou decides to stay behind and use his knowledge of the future to greatly improve his and everyone's lives. When the other three friends get back they all have much better lives but do not remember them.]]

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* ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'' is really inconsistent with its time travel mechanics. Four friends travel back to one day in 1986 and hijack their younger bodies, so everyone sees them as their younger selves. Except one of the friends - Jacob - wasn't born yet and looks the same in the past as he did in the present, and can also interact with the past, but whenever something happens that might possibly stop his conception he flickers out temporarily. Initially the friends, fearing the ButterflyOfDoom, try to enact a StableTimeLoop by making sure the big events they remember from that night still happen, but then they change their minds and try to make sure the night goes better the second time around. Some of the big events they remember still happen no matter what they do, but no in the way they remember them. Other events they really do alter. Meanwhile they directly or indirectly cause a couple of historical changes. [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the end Lou decides to stay behind and use his knowledge of the future to greatly improve his and everyone's lives. When the other three friends get back they all have much better lives but do not remember them.]]



** ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' goes whole hog on the Timey-Wimey Ball, as Kyle goes to 1984, and finds that the past has already changed thanks to [=SkyNet=] sending Terminators to try to kill Sarah when she was even younger. And that was caused by a ButterflyOfDoom ''in the future'' - [[spoiler: namely, Sknet attacking John while Kyle was going back through time]]. ''Entertainment Weekly'' [[http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/30/terminator-genisys-franchise-timeline-explained tried to explain how things went]] (the writer even lampshades how complicated things get: "If I follow this correctly—and I admit that my nose is bleeding while I type this...").

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** ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' goes whole hog on the Timey-Wimey Ball, as Kyle goes to 1984, and finds that the past has already changed thanks to [=SkyNet=] sending Terminators to try to kill Sarah when she was even younger. And that was caused by a ButterflyOfDoom ''in the future'' - [[spoiler: namely, Sknet [[spoiler:namely, Skynet attacking John while Kyle was going back through time]]. ''Entertainment Weekly'' [[http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/30/terminator-genisys-franchise-timeline-explained tried to explain how things went]] (the writer even lampshades how complicated things get: "If I follow this correctly—and I admit that my nose is bleeding while I type this...").



* ''Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree'' gets...''vague'' with how time travel works. At first at seems like traveling to the past always creates a fresh new timeline, or "string," where none of your other trips happened, and if you screw something up, you can always make a new string where you didn't. However, it turns out that the strings can become tangled if there are too many of them, and making changes to history is like plucking the strings, causing them to "harmonize" with each other. If you get too many strings harmonizing, time itself will [[TimeCrash shatter]] from the vibrations. Jake nearly causes this to happen by [[spoiler: saving JFK's life]], but somehow he's able to save the world by making ''another'' string where that doesn't happen. All of this is explained by a hobo who's been driven insane by a very nasty version of RippleEffectProofMemory (imagine remembering hundreds of different futures all at once, all in equal clarity) so there's a lot the reader never finds out.

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* ''Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree'' gets...''vague'' with how time travel works. At first at seems like traveling to the past always creates a fresh new timeline, or "string," where none of your other trips happened, and if you screw something up, you can always make a new string where you didn't. However, it turns out that the strings can become tangled if there are too many of them, and making changes to history is like plucking the strings, causing them to "harmonize" with each other. If you get too many strings harmonizing, time itself will [[TimeCrash shatter]] from the vibrations. Jake nearly causes this to happen by [[spoiler: saving [[spoiler:saving JFK's life]], but somehow he's able to save the world by making ''another'' string where that doesn't happen. All of this is explained by a hobo who's been driven insane by a very nasty version of RippleEffectProofMemory (imagine remembering hundreds of different futures all at once, all in equal clarity) so there's a lot the reader never finds out.



** Heinlein wrote a short story called ''Literature/ByHisBootstraps'', in which the protagonist exploits a time machine to move himself forward in time. Simple enough. The MindScrew comes in when [[spoiler: he does this by his future self sending back his intermediate self to persuade his past self to enter the machine's portal. When the past self becomes the intermediate self, he attempts to double cross the future self, but that double cross naturally results in him becoming the future self]]. Follow all that?
** For a real, double whammy version of mind screw, read ''Literature/AllYouZombies'' [[spoiler: which chronicles a young man (later revealed to be post-real-sex change) taken back in time and tricked into impregnating his younger, female self (before s/he underwent said sex change); then he turns out to be the offspring of that union (time-relocated yet again), with the paradoxical result that he is both his own mother and father. As the story unfolds, all the major characters -- the young single mother, her seducer, the alcoholic writer, the bartender who recruits him into the time-travel corps, ''and even the baby'' -- are revealed to be the same person, at different stages of her/his life]]. How's your mind doing now?

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** Heinlein wrote a short story called ''Literature/ByHisBootstraps'', in which the protagonist exploits a time machine to move himself forward in time. Simple enough. The MindScrew comes in when [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he does this by his future self sending back his intermediate self to persuade his past self to enter the machine's portal. When the past self becomes the intermediate self, he attempts to double cross the future self, but that double cross naturally results in him becoming the future self]]. Follow all that?
** For a real, double whammy version of mind screw, read ''Literature/AllYouZombies'' [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which chronicles a young man (later revealed to be post-real-sex change) taken back in time and tricked into impregnating his younger, female self (before s/he underwent said sex change); then he turns out to be the offspring of that union (time-relocated yet again), with the paradoxical result that he is both his own mother and father. As the story unfolds, all the major characters -- the young single mother, her seducer, the alcoholic writer, the bartender who recruits him into the time-travel corps, ''and even the baby'' -- are revealed to be the same person, at different stages of her/his life]]. How's your mind doing now?



* In ''Literature/WeCantRewind'', the narrator makes several attempts to make sense of how his world's peculiar form of time travel works for the readers, and then gives up, explaining that he'll probably [[MindScrew lose his mind]] if he keeps this up for much longer. [[spoiler: He mentions that the temporal theorists of Merciar, from which he's writing this account, are doing no better at settling their controversies over how exactly inter-dimensional time travel works, and that most of Merciar's citizens have already given up trying to make sense of it in order to preserve their sanity and advised everyone else to do the same.]]

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* In ''Literature/WeCantRewind'', the narrator makes several attempts to make sense of how his world's peculiar form of time travel works for the readers, and then gives up, explaining that he'll probably [[MindScrew lose his mind]] if he keeps this up for much longer. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He mentions that the temporal theorists of Merciar, from which he's writing this account, are doing no better at settling their controversies over how exactly inter-dimensional time travel works, and that most of Merciar's citizens have already given up trying to make sense of it in order to preserve their sanity and advised everyone else to do the same.]]



* ''VisualNovel/TimeHollow'' suffers from this trope at times. At one point, you [[spoiler: rescue a mother and son from dying in a bus crash.]] Immediately afterwards, time refuses to change. So you try again. And again, nothing happens. [[spoiler: Turns out the mother deliberately RE-changed events to cause her and her son's death.]] This is handwaved with an explanation that objects and people pulled or otherwise sent through a time warp become 'detached' in time. It may make your head hurt a bit more when you are able to talk to [[spoiler: the mother, older, in the timeline in which you saved her,]] even though that timeline, from your perspective, DOES NOT EXIST [[spoiler: because she keeps changing the past to prevent it]].

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* ''VisualNovel/TimeHollow'' suffers from this trope at times. At one point, you [[spoiler: rescue [[spoiler:rescue a mother and son from dying in a bus crash.]] Immediately afterwards, time refuses to change. So you try again. And again, nothing happens. [[spoiler: Turns [[spoiler:Turns out the mother deliberately RE-changed events to cause her and her son's death.]] This is handwaved with an explanation that objects and people pulled or otherwise sent through a time warp become 'detached' in time. It may make your head hurt a bit more when you are able to talk to [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the mother, older, in the timeline in which you saved her,]] even though that timeline, from your perspective, DOES NOT EXIST [[spoiler: because [[spoiler:because she keeps changing the past to prevent it]].



** The series later attempts to explain all this earlier time-travel nonsense during the "Recollections" trilogy of seasons by [[spoiler: explaining that the Red and Blue soldiers are actually simulation troopers meant to test Freelancer troops against a myriad of mad situations and everything they were subjected to in Blood Gulch was in fact a controlled situation they weren't meant to understand]].
** Actually Word of God from Burnie Burns has confirmed that [[spoiler: Church going back in time repeatedly never really happened, and was merely Gamma and Omega trying to cause Alpha to fracture into more A.I. fragments. Nobody moved through time in season 3. Yes this is a major retcon, but as of Season 8 it is considered the canonical explanation]].

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** The series later attempts to explain all this earlier time-travel nonsense during the "Recollections" trilogy of seasons by [[spoiler: explaining [[spoiler:explaining that the Red and Blue soldiers are actually simulation troopers meant to test Freelancer troops against a myriad of mad situations and everything they were subjected to in Blood Gulch was in fact a controlled situation they weren't meant to understand]].
** Actually Word of God from Burnie Burns has confirmed that [[spoiler: Church [[spoiler:Church going back in time repeatedly never really happened, and was merely Gamma and Omega trying to cause Alpha to fracture into more A.I. fragments. Nobody moved through time in season 3. Yes this is a major retcon, but as of Season 8 it is considered the canonical explanation]].



* Time travel in ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'' at first ''appears'' to work in a StableTimeLoop fashion, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler: It's possible to "break" a StableTimeLoop, an action capable of ''destroying the entire universe.'' [[OhCrap Several time loops have already been broken]]]]. And now [[spoiler: Every universe, save the "espionage" theme universe, has been destroyed. They got better]]. [[RunningGag And now]] apparently the timeline is too broken to go back pre-1933 (specifically the date of the Reichstag Fire). Complete with a link to this very article.

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* Time travel in ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'' at first ''appears'' to work in a StableTimeLoop fashion, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's possible to "break" a StableTimeLoop, an action capable of ''destroying the entire universe.'' [[OhCrap Several time loops have already been broken]]]]. And now [[spoiler: Every [[spoiler:Every universe, save the "espionage" theme universe, has been destroyed. They got better]]. [[RunningGag And now]] apparently the timeline is too broken to go back pre-1933 (specifically the date of the Reichstag Fire). Complete with a link to this very article.



** An extended time-travel subplot establishes that it is difficult, but not impossible, to change your own history. Physical time-travel takes all the energy that exists in the Universe [[spoiler: or, as it turns out, in some other universe that's just out of luck]], but it's possible to transfer your consciousness back or forward in time into your own body, and you can undergo changes as a result of altered behavior. For instance, Dave never smoked. At several points, the question of paradoxes comes up, and it is immediately dismissed by pointing out that thinking about it could cause it to happen, so it's better not to.

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** An extended time-travel subplot establishes that it is difficult, but not impossible, to change your own history. Physical time-travel takes all the energy that exists in the Universe [[spoiler: or, [[spoiler:or, as it turns out, in some other universe that's just out of luck]], but it's possible to transfer your consciousness back or forward in time into your own body, and you can undergo changes as a result of altered behavior. For instance, Dave never smoked. At several points, the question of paradoxes comes up, and it is immediately dismissed by pointing out that thinking about it could cause it to happen, so it's better not to.



** In the main continuity of the series, it gets worse when [[spoiler: Future!Dave]] starts incorporating TimeTravel shenanigans. And even ''[[TimeMaster he]]'' doesn't understand all the mechanisms behind it, his advice to the other characters (and the audience) is just basically [[BellisariosMaxim "Don't overthink it."]]

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** In the main continuity of the series, it gets worse when [[spoiler: Future!Dave]] [[spoiler:Future!Dave]] starts incorporating TimeTravel shenanigans. And even ''[[TimeMaster he]]'' doesn't understand all the mechanisms behind it, his advice to the other characters (and the audience) is just basically [[BellisariosMaxim "Don't overthink it."]]



--> '''[[TheWatson Jones]]''' : Nnnnnooo [[http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/i-have-no-idea-how-long-this-arc-will-last I still think that's not how time travel works]]...\\
'''[[AwesomeMcCoolname Commander Badass]]''' : Look, anyone who watches as much ''Doctor Who'' as you do gotta know that technology more 're less runs on bullshit.

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--> '''[[TheWatson Jones]]''' : -->'''[[TheWatson Jones]]:''' Nnnnnooo [[http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/i-have-no-idea-how-long-this-arc-will-last I still think that's not how time travel works]]...\\
'''[[AwesomeMcCoolname Commander Badass]]''' : Badass]]:''' Look, anyone who watches as much ''Doctor Who'' as you do gotta know that technology more 're less runs on bullshit.



--> [[MemeticMutation Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff.]] Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of balls and takes the place of the first ball. The formerly first ball becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Time works the same way.

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--> [[MemeticMutation -->[[MemeticMutation Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff.]] Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of balls and takes the place of the first ball. The formerly first ball becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Time works the same way.



--> '''Staph''': As you read this letter, our kingdom will have undergone many generations of development... at least from our perception. Don't fret! In your own perception sphere, we are very much alive, and I'm certain you will have an opportunity to drop in and say 'hello.' Does that make sense? Sorry, we still don't really have a handle on how you experience the layers.

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--> '''Staph''': -->'''Staph:''' As you read this letter, our kingdom will have undergone many generations of development... at least from our perception. Don't fret! In your own perception sphere, we are very much alive, and I'm certain you will have an opportunity to drop in and say 'hello.' Does that make sense? Sorry, we still don't really have a handle on how you experience the layers.



** However, the episode "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker" appears to utilize a straight StableTimeLoop... however [[spoiler: Timmy's time traveling, in addition to causing Crocker to lose his fairies as a kid, also gave him a much more sophisticated fairy-tracker which he didn't originally have as an adult]], meaning that [[spoiler: Crocker must have lost his fairies]] a slightly different way the "first time around".

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** However, the episode "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker" appears to utilize a straight StableTimeLoop... however [[spoiler: Timmy's [[spoiler:Timmy's time traveling, in addition to causing Crocker to lose his fairies as a kid, also gave him a much more sophisticated fairy-tracker which he didn't originally have as an adult]], meaning that [[spoiler: Crocker [[spoiler:Crocker must have lost his fairies]] a slightly different way the "first time around".



** The entire existence of Lars Fillmore is built on a combination of a StableTimeLoop and an AlternateTimeline. In the future, [[spoiler: Fry meets Lars before going back to his own time. He then takes another trip back in time by an hour, displacing the Fry that existed at that time and turning him into a "time-paradox duplicate." The duplicate eventually becomes Lars, following his other self to the future and inspiring the original Fry to take on the false identity of Lars [[MindScrew once he becomes a duplicate though his upcoming use of time travel]]]].

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** The entire existence of Lars Fillmore is built on a combination of a StableTimeLoop and an AlternateTimeline. In the future, [[spoiler: Fry [[spoiler:Fry meets Lars before going back to his own time. He then takes another trip back in time by an hour, displacing the Fry that existed at that time and turning him into a "time-paradox duplicate." The duplicate eventually becomes Lars, following his other self to the future and inspiring the original Fry to take on the false identity of Lars [[MindScrew once he becomes a duplicate though his upcoming use of time travel]]]].



** After [[spoiler: Thrust shoots Starscream with the [[{{BFG}} Requiem Blaster]],]] we see a shot of Rad as an eight year old waking up in his parents' car and asking tiredly where the Mini-Cons are (implying his "present" mind was momentarily in his past body). Then cut to all the kids - possibly in an alternate future - being told by a slowly dying Hot Shot that the Transformers have all been eaten by Unicron because they didn't know that [[spoiler: the Mini-Cons were servants of Unicron]] and were led to their doom. After this, cut to the kids now being at the moment of the Mini-Cons' creation millions of years ago [[spoiler: inside Unicron. Rad then touches High Wire's hand and frees him (and by association all the other Mini-Cons) from Unicron's control by reminding them of their past[=/=]future happiness together.]] The Mini-Cons then know to go to Earth after they leave Cybertron to meet Rad and the other humans. Cut back to the humans returning mere moments before [[spoiler: Thrust shoots Starscream, whereupon High Wire and his teammates [[CombiningMecha combine into Perceptor]] and knocks the gun away, causing Thrust to miss Starscream completely]]. And none of this is EVER EXPLAINED.
** The Mini-cons who prevented [[spoiler: Starscream from being blasted]] ''weren't'' taken along with the kids' inexplicable time-jump, and there is no reason for them to have done anything differently in the present. It can't even be due to the kids' actions in the past -- the Mini-cons would ''never have gone to Earth to kick off the events of the series'' if not for the kids, so it's not a case of the "old" High Wire [[spoiler: wanting Starscream to die but the "new" one saving him]].

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** After [[spoiler: Thrust [[spoiler:Thrust shoots Starscream with the [[{{BFG}} Requiem Blaster]],]] we see a shot of Rad as an eight year old waking up in his parents' car and asking tiredly where the Mini-Cons are (implying his "present" mind was momentarily in his past body). Then cut to all the kids - possibly in an alternate future - being told by a slowly dying Hot Shot that the Transformers have all been eaten by Unicron because they didn't know that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Mini-Cons were servants of Unicron]] and were led to their doom. After this, cut to the kids now being at the moment of the Mini-Cons' creation millions of years ago [[spoiler: inside [[spoiler:inside Unicron. Rad then touches High Wire's hand and frees him (and by association all the other Mini-Cons) from Unicron's control by reminding them of their past[=/=]future happiness together.]] The Mini-Cons then know to go to Earth after they leave Cybertron to meet Rad and the other humans. Cut back to the humans returning mere moments before [[spoiler: Thrust [[spoiler:Thrust shoots Starscream, whereupon High Wire and his teammates [[CombiningMecha combine into Perceptor]] and knocks the gun away, causing Thrust to miss Starscream completely]]. And none of this is EVER EXPLAINED.
** The Mini-cons who prevented [[spoiler: Starscream [[spoiler:Starscream from being blasted]] ''weren't'' taken along with the kids' inexplicable time-jump, and there is no reason for them to have done anything differently in the present. It can't even be due to the kids' actions in the past -- the Mini-cons would ''never have gone to Earth to kick off the events of the series'' if not for the kids, so it's not a case of the "old" High Wire [[spoiler: wanting [[spoiler:wanting Starscream to die but the "new" one saving him]].

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' can get into this in the "Future Trunks" arc. Previously in DBZ, Trunk's time machine worked firmly on alternate time line theory. DBS sticks to that rule.. for ''that'' time machine. It then introduces divine time travel through the time rings, which works on StableTimeLoop, as do any actions done by the gods using divine ki. However the time machine and time rings are both active, and each can only do its own version of time travel. It gets confusing ''very'' quickly.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'' has characters change the past through time travel frequently, yet also has a number of gags that rely on the assumption of a StableTimeLoop. It's also inconsistent about when characters can or can't remember events that got erased from the timeline.


* ''Film/StarTrek'': WordOfGod has it that instead of erasing the later series, it just split off a new timeline, so that the later series still happened in the original timeline (dubbed "the Prime" timeline in ''Fanon'') but has not in the new timeline. This gets weird as there are many instances of characters from the Prime timeline traveling back to before the split, which means that if a character from the alternate timeline were to travel back to say, [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The orbital Atomic Accident]], [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine The Bell Riots]], or [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact The first Warp Test]] they would find time travelers from the Prime timeline, which from their point of view doesn't exist. Quite a MindScrew... or AssPull, depending on the variance of your mileage. Prior to the film, ''Franchise/StarTrek'' was pretty consistent that time travel changes affect the existing timeline, they don't spawn new timelines (though the existence of parallel but different realities ''were'' established, they just weren't caused by time-travel).

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* ''Film/StarTrek'': ''Film/StarTrek2009'': WordOfGod has it that instead of erasing the later series, it just split off a new timeline, so that the later series still happened in the original timeline (dubbed "the Prime" timeline in ''Fanon'') but has not in the new timeline. This gets weird as there are many instances of characters from the Prime timeline traveling back to before the split, which means that if a character from the alternate timeline were to travel back to say, [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The orbital Atomic Accident]], [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine The Bell Riots]], or [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact The first Warp Test]] they would find time travelers from the Prime timeline, which from their point of view doesn't exist. Quite a MindScrew... or AssPull, depending on the variance of your mileage. Prior to the film, ''Franchise/StarTrek'' was pretty consistent that time travel changes affect the existing timeline, they don't spawn new timelines (though the existence of parallel but different realities ''were'' established, they just weren't caused by time-travel).


* In ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'', the main character Ebony travels back in time to teach a young Voldemort about love. But when she does, the plot really starts to get strange. A few examples are that characters in the past know what will happen in the present, that items will not work in time-periods where its not invented yet and that people can't die outside their native time-period.

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* In ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'', the main character Ebony travels back in time to teach a young Voldemort about love. But when she does, the plot really starts to get strange. A few examples are that characters in the past know what will happen in the present, that items will not work in time-periods where its they're not invented yet yet, and that people can't die outside their native time-period.

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