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* Poor Elias Acorn of ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog''. He takes over the throne twice and both times loses it. The first time had Elias unwittingly give Geoffery St. John as an advisor, only to become a TreacherousAdvisor as he used his position to punish Sonic and build up his Secret Service. When an Eggman plot ravaged said Secret Service as well as the Sword of Acorns rejecting him, Elias runs away in shame. He comes back again a year later in-series to take back the throne, only to lose it ''again'' to Ixis Naugus.

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* Poor Elias Acorn of ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog''.''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics''. He takes over the throne twice and both times loses it. The first time had Elias unwittingly give Geoffery St. John as an advisor, only to become a TreacherousAdvisor as he used his position to punish Sonic and build up his Secret Service. When an Eggman plot ravaged said Secret Service as well as the Sword of Acorns rejecting him, Elias runs away in shame. He comes back again a year later in-series to take back the throne, only to lose it ''again'' to Ixis Naugus.






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* In ''FanFic/{{Eugenesis}}'' Prowl has a choice: Being in charge, which he hates (and isn't very good at), or letting [[{{Jerkass}} Grimlock]] take control and run what's left of the Autobots into the ground. Or Springer, though for [[AddledAddict some reason he can't figure out]], Prowl doesn't think this would be a good idea. Follow-up fiction would prove his suspicions about Springer right in all the worst ways.

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* In ''FanFic/{{Eugenesis}}'' ''Fanfic/{{Eugenesis}}'' Prowl has a choice: Being in charge, which he hates (and isn't very good at), or letting [[{{Jerkass}} Grimlock]] take control and run what's left of the Autobots into the ground. Or Springer, though for [[AddledAddict some reason he can't figure out]], Prowl doesn't think this would be a good idea. Follow-up fiction would prove his suspicions about Springer right in all the worst ways.
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* Many versions of RobinHood have King John standing in for Good King Richard.

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* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Maric Theirin is remembered as a much better King of Ferelden than his son Cailan. [[spoiler:Subverted with Alistair if you "harden" his personality and make him King: in that case, he becomes a ruler much better than everyone expected (including him), perhaps on par with his dad and his cameo in ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'' shows that he's not afraid to put his foot down when it matters.]]

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\n* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Maric Theirin is remembered as a much better King of Ferelden than his son Cailan. [[spoiler:Subverted with Alistair if you "harden" his personality and make him King: in that case, he becomes a ruler much better than everyone expected (including him), perhaps on par with his dad and his cameo in ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'' ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' shows that he's not afraid to put his foot down when it matters.]]


















* Emperor Commodus of the Roman Empire. Commodus was the successor and biological son of Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius was viewed as wise and versed in philosophy. While he did not make Rome a prosperous nation, he did maintain its existing success, being the final emperor of the Pax Romana period. He did this largely by preventing anti-Roman offenses, maintaining proper governance while his brother, then co-ruler, fought the Parthian Empire, and Aurelius, then sole emperor, later succesfully repelled Germanic incursions. This positive reputation has endured. Today, Aurelius is renowned as a [[{{ThePhilosopherKing}} Philosopher Emperor]] in the Stoic school of thought, and he is marked as the last of the Five Good Emperors. Commodus was not so well-liked. He was noted as being somewhat lazy and disinterested in statesmanship, partially due to him delegating many of his powers to other individuals working under him, rather than ruling unilaterally. Unlike his father, who aimed to be disciplined and humble, Commodus was vain. He viewed himself as a reincarnation of Hercules and demanded to be addressed as such. He also spent a great deal of time in arenas, acting as an active gladiator, rather than as a spectator. This was seen as unseemly and unbefitting an emperor. Late in his reign, a fire occurred in Rome (the city, not the entire empire). He took this opportunity to "refound" the city, renaming it after himself. He did the same with the months of the year, legions, and Senate. Thus, Commodus, despite being disinterested in ruling, aimed to make himself the center of the empire, with all in it named for him. Commodus's reign was followed by the Year of the Five Emperors, a period of instability, and his decided lack of interest in actually leading his empire has been posited as a cause for the decline and eventual fall of the Roman empire.

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* Emperor Commodus of the Roman Empire. Commodus was the successor and biological son of Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius was viewed as wise and versed in philosophy. While he did not make Rome a prosperous nation, he did maintain its existing success, being the final emperor of the Pax Romana period. He did this largely by preventing anti-Roman offenses, maintaining proper governance while his brother, then co-ruler, fought the Parthian Empire, and Aurelius, then sole emperor, later succesfully repelled Germanic incursions. This positive reputation has endured. Today, Aurelius is renowned as a [[{{ThePhilosopherKing}} [[ThePhilosopherKing Philosopher Emperor]] in the Stoic school of thought, and he is marked as the last of the Five Good Emperors. Commodus was not so well-liked. He was noted as being somewhat lazy and disinterested in statesmanship, partially due to him delegating many of his powers to other individuals working under him, rather than ruling unilaterally. Unlike his father, who aimed to be disciplined and humble, Commodus was vain. He viewed himself as a reincarnation of Hercules and demanded to be addressed as such. He also spent a great deal of time in arenas, acting as an active gladiator, rather than as a spectator. This was seen as unseemly and unbefitting an emperor. Late in his reign, a fire occurred in Rome (the city, not the entire empire). He took this opportunity to "refound" the city, renaming it after himself. He did the same with the months of the year, legions, and Senate. Thus, Commodus, despite being disinterested in ruling, aimed to make himself the center of the empire, with all in it named for him. Commodus's reign was followed by the Year of the Five Emperors, a period of instability, and his decided lack of interest in actually leading his empire has been posited as a cause for the decline and eventual fall of the Roman empire.

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* President Chester A. Arthur. Elevated to the job by the assassination of James Garfield, everyone had expected him to be a corrupt hack as Arthur had been connected with the notoriously corrupt Republican political machine in New York. It wasn't helped by the fact that Garfield's assassin claimed he did the job so Arthur could become President. Instead, Arthur turned out to be a champion of civil service reform, so much so that he was unable to secure a nomination for a term of his own as he had pissed off so many of his old allies. Even Mark Twain, ever cynical of all politicians, claimed Arthur had done a good job.


In the event of the old ruler trying to do something ''about'' the successor to ensure this doesn't happen, you have an InadequateInheritor.

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In the event of the old ruler trying to do something ''about'' the successor to ensure this doesn't happen, you have an InadequateInheritor.
InadequateInheritor. Often overlaps with TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. The inversion is SuperiorSuccessor.


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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': As flawed as Prince Rhaegar was, Viserys could never have hoped to be half the king he would've been, had he lived to take the throne. Jorah lampshades this to Daenerys in "Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things":
-->'''Dany:''' I hit him. I hit the dragon.
-->'''Jorah:''' Your brother Rhaegar was the last dragon. Viserys is less than the shadow of a snake.
-->'''Dany:''' He's still the true king.
-->'''Jorah:''' Truth now. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Do you want to see your brother sitting on the Iron Throne?]]
-->'''Dany:''' [{{beat}}] No.
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* Robotnik in the SaturdayMorningCartoon of ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogAM'' gets his job by [[SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere locking the old ruler in another dimension]]. He then proceeds to turn Mobitropolis into a robotic wasteland where he alone out of all the organic denizens (besides nephew Snively) is free to live a life of luxury in possibly the darkest incarnation of the villain.

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* Robotnik in the SaturdayMorningCartoon of ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogAM'' ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'' gets his job by [[SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere locking the old ruler in another dimension]]. He then proceeds to turn Mobitropolis into a robotic wasteland where he alone out of all the organic denizens (besides nephew Snively) is free to live a life of luxury in possibly the darkest incarnation of the villain.


* Discussed in ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' when Cayleb and Sharleyan's chief advisor worries that while they are beloved by all, their child might end up being this trope. He notes that in history, most successors to exceptional rulers ended up this way, mostly due to AlwaysSomeoneBetter, the "better" being the parent they keep on being compared to. It remains to be seen whether the story vindicates him.

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* Discussed in ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' when Cayleb and Sharleyan's chief advisor worries that while they are beloved by all, their child might end up being this trope. He notes that in history, most successors to exceptional rulers ended up this way, mostly due to AlwaysSomeoneBetter, the "better" being the parent they keep on being compared to. It remains Fortunately, their daughter Alahnah seems to be seen whether the story vindicates him.
have turned out all right.


* UsefulNotes/{{Poland}} routinely had this kind of problem, with great rulers being almost always succeeded with absurdly incompetent ones and not just due to high standard set up by their predecessors. Bolesław Chrobry, the very first king of the country, was followed by his son, Mieszko II, who got booted out of the throne by pagan uprising, was reduced to a duke and lost every single piece of land his father conquered. Casimir III the Great (the only Polish ruler with such nickname) died without a legal heir, so his replacement was first a titular king who never showed up in person and then a teenage girl. Władysław II Jagiełło, a highly successful king of the new dynasty, was followed by his god-awful son, Władysław III, who's biggest achievement was getting himself killed in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Varna the battle of Varna]] - to the point his Polish nickname is "of Varna". Next king, his younger brother, Casimir IV Jagiellon, is widely considered only second best to Casimir the Great... and was followed by ''two'' greatly incompetent sons, Jan and Alexander, both infamous for being utterly incapable of controlling the nobility and constantly folding under any kind of pressure. Their reign, while short-lived (9 and 5 years, respectively), was so terrible, it started the DisasterDominoes leading to Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth becoming a full-blown ElectiveMonarchy - and the elective kings also had the fair share of sketchy successors.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Poland}} routinely had this kind of problem, with great rulers being almost always succeeded with absurdly incompetent ones and not just due to high standard set up by their predecessors. Bolesław Chrobry, the very first king of the country, was followed by his son, Mieszko II, who got booted out of the throne by pagan uprising, was reduced to a duke and lost every single piece of land his father conquered. Casimir III the Great (the only Polish ruler with such nickname) died without a legal heir, so his replacement was first a titular king who never showed up in person and then a teenage girl. Władysław II Jagiełło, a highly successful king of the new dynasty, was followed by his god-awful son, Władysław III, who's biggest achievement was getting himself killed in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Varna the battle of Varna]] - to the point his Polish nickname is "of Varna".Varna"[[note]]Extra points of irony due to Jagiełło agreeing for various privilidges for the nobility, with long-lasting consequences, just to secure this succession[[/note]]. Next king, his younger brother, Casimir IV Jagiellon, is widely considered only second best to Casimir the Great... and was followed by ''two'' greatly incompetent sons, Jan and Alexander, both infamous for being utterly incapable of controlling the nobility and constantly folding under any kind of pressure. Their reign, while short-lived (9 and 5 years, respectively), was so terrible, it started the DisasterDominoes leading to Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth becoming a full-blown ElectiveMonarchy - and the elective kings also had the fair share of sketchy successors. In fact, some of the elective kings were so bad, they've managed to [[UpToEleven made their already awful predecessor look good by comparison]].

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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seongjong_of_Joseon King Seongjong]] put into effect and improved the code of law created by his grandfather, appointed officials based on their abilities instead of their family or political views, and encouraged the publication of books. Unfortunately he was succeeded by his oldest son, UsefulNotes/YeonsangunOfJoseon, who became one of the worst tyrants in Korean history.



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* ''WesternAnimation/PrincessNatasha'': 15 years before the beginning of the cartoon, King Hector died and his son Lubek became the King of Zoravia. Lubek's past actions as the head of Zoravia's Spy Agency and Secret Police made him so hated by the citizens of Zoravia they elected his younger brother Carl as their King. Lubek plots to force the citizens to accept him as their King.


* In ''Manga/MissionYozakurFamily'', the underworld specifically notes that Taiyo, the husband of the tenth head of the Yozakura family, isn't a particularly exceptional spy aside from his dogged determination to improve his skills and protect Mutsumi. This weighs on him as he begins worrying about sullying the Yozakura name and whether or not he ought to be with Mutsumi.

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* In ''Manga/MissionYozakurFamily'', ''Manga/MissionYozakuraFamily'', the underworld specifically notes that Taiyo, the husband of the tenth head of the Yozakura family, isn't a particularly exceptional spy aside from his dogged determination to improve his skills and protect Mutsumi. This weighs on him as he begins worrying about sullying the Yozakura name and whether or not he ought to be with Mutsumi.



* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] on ''LightNovel/TheTwelveKingdoms'' as the next ruler is not necessarilly the child of the previous king, but rather has to be chosen by the Kirin each time the previous one dies. Rulers gain near-immortality on accession (for themselves as well as their family and retainers), so a successful reign may continue indefinitely. Not all rulers are successful, however: Youko's predecessor only ruled for about 6 years before committing suicide to save her kirin from her own incompetence. By comparison, the wise and even-handed En-Ou has ruled for more than 500 years.

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\n* In ''Manga/MissionYozakurFamily'', the underworld specifically notes that Taiyo, the husband of the tenth head of the Yozakura family, isn't a particularly exceptional spy aside from his dogged determination to improve his skills and protect Mutsumi. This weighs on him as he begins worrying about sullying the Yozakura name and whether or not he ought to be with Mutsumi.
* [[DefiedTrope Defied]] on ''LightNovel/TheTwelveKingdoms'' as the next ruler is not necessarilly necessarily the child of the previous king, but rather has to be chosen by the Kirin each time the previous one dies. Rulers gain near-immortality on accession (for themselves as well as their family and retainers), so a successful reign may continue indefinitely. Not all rulers are successful, however: Youko's predecessor only ruled for about 6 years before committing suicide to save her kirin from her own incompetence. By comparison, the wise and even-handed En-Ou has ruled for more than 500 years.


* Robotnik in the SaturdayMorningCartoon of ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehog'' gets his job by [[SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere locking the old ruler in another dimension]]. He then proceeds to turn Mobitropolis into a robotic wasteland where he alone out of all the organic denizens (besides nephew Snively) is free to live a life of luxury in possibly the darkest incarnation of the villain.

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* Robotnik in the SaturdayMorningCartoon of ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehog'' ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogAM'' gets his job by [[SealedRoomInTheMiddleOfNowhere locking the old ruler in another dimension]]. He then proceeds to turn Mobitropolis into a robotic wasteland where he alone out of all the organic denizens (besides nephew Snively) is free to live a life of luxury in possibly the darkest incarnation of the villain.


** Although in the end it OvertookTheSeries and it may not be how the books end, ''Series/GameOfThrones'' showcases in [[GrandFinale its last two episodes]] that [[spoiler:for all of her attempts at not being this, Daenerys Targaryen is no different from her ancestors at all, finally snapping after losing a few too many close ones to the White Walkers and Cersei Lannister and leading a RapePillageAndBurn rampage on King's Landing, with full intent on doing it to the rest of Westeros under the belief that she's "liberating" them. Jon Snow ends up being forced to assassinate her to prevent it.]]


** Jack Hawksmoor was very much this as leader when he took over from the late Jenny Sparks, as the team collectively TookALeaveInJerkass, as they went from being reluctant but willing to use lethal force to a bunch of arrogant jackasses whose default method is the use of lethal force, act unilaterally without thinking about the consequences, and at one point overthrew the U.S. government.

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** Jack Hawksmoor was very much this as leader when he took over from the late Jenny Sparks, as the team collectively TookALeaveInJerkass, TookALevelInJerkass, as they went from being reluctant but willing to use lethal force to a bunch of arrogant jackasses whose default method is the use of lethal force, act unilaterally without thinking about the consequences, and at one point overthrew the U.S. government.


* Jack Hawksmoor was very much this for ComicBook/TheAuthority when he took over from the late Jenny Sparks as leader, as the team collectively TookALeaveInJerkass, as they went from being reluctant but willing to use lethal force to a bunch of arrogant jackasses whose default method is the use of lethal force, act unilaterally without thinking about the consequences, and at one point overthrew the U.S. government.

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* ComicBook/TheAuthority:
** The team itself. It was inspired by the Changers, a rather idealistic group compoared to the nastiness and dirty business the Authority engaged it.
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Jack Hawksmoor was very much this for ComicBook/TheAuthority as leader when he took over from the late Jenny Sparks as leader, Sparks, as the team collectively TookALeaveInJerkass, as they went from being reluctant but willing to use lethal force to a bunch of arrogant jackasses whose default method is the use of lethal force, act unilaterally without thinking about the consequences, and at one point overthrew the U.S. government.


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* Jack Hawksmoor was very much this for ComicBook/TheAuthority when he took over from the late Jenny Sparks as leader, as the team collectively TookALeaveInJerkass, as they went from being reluctant but willing to use lethal force to a bunch of arrogant jackasses whose default method is the use of lethal force, act unilaterally without thinking about the consequences, and at one point overthrew the U.S. government.



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