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*** In some Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse books, this happened in the MirrorUniverse after the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance defeated the Terran Empire. As punishment, and an example, they turned Earth into a lifeless rock, possibly Vulcan as well.

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*** In some Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse books, this happened in the MirrorUniverse after the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance defeated the Terran Empire. As punishment, and an example, they turned Earth into a lifeless rock, possibly Vulcan as well. [[spoiler:Which could [[PayEvilUntoEvil almost be justified]], if those coexist with [[Series/StarTrekDiscovery Emperor Georgiou laying waste to Qo'noS with a hydro bomb]].]]

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** The destruction of the Hosnian system and the fleet stationed there was the end of the New Republic.


[[ThisCannotBe Said planet falls anyway]], [[OhCrap sending a chilling wave down the spines of the Federation]]. Sometimes it could be a [[DecisiveBattle turning point in the war]], but not always: any faction could suffer a defeat like this and not necessarily be defeated. Perhaps this defeat was due to a [[FailedASpotCheck surprise attack]]. Could have been a PyrrhicVictory for the attackers. Sometimes it's described as a NoodleIncident in some stories. What ever the reason, it's still an incredible loss, and [[NeverLiveItDown no one will ever forget it]]. The defeat likewise can have terrible dramatic consequences because it sets a mentality for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism revanchism]] and trigger a factional fight among groups about who is responsible for the defeat and who do we scapegoat to make sure it doesn't happen again.

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[[ThisCannotBe Said planet planet-ship falls anyway]], anyway]], sending [[OhCrap sending a chilling wave horrible chill down the spines of the Federation]]. Sometimes it could be a [[DecisiveBattle turning point in the war]], but not always: any faction could suffer a defeat like this and not necessarily be defeated. Perhaps this defeat was due to a [[FailedASpotCheck surprise attack]]. Could have been a PyrrhicVictory for the attackers. Sometimes it's described as a NoodleIncident in some stories. What ever the reason, it's still an incredible loss, and [[NeverLiveItDown no one will ever forget it]]. The defeat likewise can have terrible dramatic consequences because it sets a mentality for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism revanchism]] and trigger a factional fight among groups about who is responsible for the defeat and who do we scapegoat to make sure it doesn't happen again.


This trope usually overlaps with HopelessWar, RememberTheAlamo, and LastStand. Often can be a DecisiveBattle, if the balance of power is dramatically shifted as well. See also the sub-trope CapitalOffensive. A CurbStompBattle often is this for the losing side.

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This trope usually overlaps with ATasteOfDefeat, HopelessWar, RememberTheAlamo, and LastStand. Often can be a DecisiveBattle, if the balance of power is dramatically shifted as well. See also the sub-trope CapitalOffensive. A CurbStompBattle often is this for the losing side.


* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limp to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. Denmark basically hit rock bottom, with the King even secretly entertaining the prospect of Denmark simply surrending its independence and becoming a part of Germany. Henceforth Danish foreign policy being dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.

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* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limp to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. Denmark basically hit rock bottom, with the King even secretly entertaining the prospect of Denmark simply surrending its independence and becoming a part of Germany. Henceforth Danish foreign policy being would be dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.


* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limp to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. This led to Danish foreign policy being dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not be able to muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.

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* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limp to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. This led to Denmark basically hit rock bottom, with the King even secretly entertaining the prospect of Denmark simply surrending its independence and becoming a part of Germany. Henceforth Danish foreign policy being dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not be able to muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.


* The Mughal Empire never recovered from Nader Shah's invasion of India in the 1730s-1740s. It culminated in the sack of Delhi which led to the Persians stealing the Peacock Throne of the Emperor and the famous Koh-I-Noor diamond (which would then pass to the Afghanis, then to the Sikh Empire of Raja Ranjitsingh, and then the English who keep it to this day - to much gritting of teeth). Other defeats, like the Maratha Confederacy's loss at the Third Battle of Panipat, the 1757 Battle of Plassey which the East India Company won and defeated the Nawab of Bengal endure as marks of bitterness among Indians about the failure of local rulers to effectively mount a challenge against the English.

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* The Mughal Empire never recovered from Nader Shah's invasion of India in the 1730s-1740s. It culminated in the sack of Delhi which led to the Persians stealing the Peacock Throne of the Emperor and the famous Koh-I-Noor diamond (which would then pass to the Afghanis, then to the Sikh Empire of Raja Ranjitsingh, and then finally to the English who keep it to this day - to much gritting of teeth). Other defeats, like the Maratha Confederacy's loss at the Third Battle of Panipat, the 1757 Battle of Plassey which the East India Company won and defeated the Nawab of Bengal endure as marks of bitterness among Indians about the failure of local rulers to effectively mount a challenge against the English.


* The Mughal Empire never recovered from Nader Shah's invasion of India in the 1730s-1740s. It culminated in the sack of Delhi which led to the Persians stealing the Peacock Throne of the Emperor and the famous Koh-I-Noor diamond (which would pass to the Afghanis than the Sikh Empire of Raja Ranjitsingh and then the English who keep it even today to much gritting of teeth). Other defeats, like the Maratha Confederacy's loss at the Third Battle of Panipat, the 1757 Battle of Plassey which the East India Company won and defeated the Nawab of Bengal endure as marks of bitterness among Indians about the failure of local rulers to effectively mount a challenge against the English.

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* The Mughal Empire never recovered from Nader Shah's invasion of India in the 1730s-1740s. It culminated in the sack of Delhi which led to the Persians stealing the Peacock Throne of the Emperor and the famous Koh-I-Noor diamond (which would then pass to the Afghanis than Afghanis, then to the Sikh Empire of Raja Ranjitsingh Ranjitsingh, and then the English who keep it even today to this day - to much gritting of teeth). Other defeats, like the Maratha Confederacy's loss at the Third Battle of Panipat, the 1757 Battle of Plassey which the East India Company won and defeated the Nawab of Bengal endure as marks of bitterness among Indians about the failure of local rulers to effectively mount a challenge against the English.


* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad Battle of Stalingrad]], for the German forces in the Soviet Union. The Sixth Army was one of the largest German field armies, and the battle became an intense clash of ideologies: Nazism vs communism, Hitler vs Stalin. When the army was cut off, the Nazis immediately put a lid on all media reports regarding Stalingrad. Finally, the last remnants of the Sixth Army surrendered in February 1943. Nearly 100,000 Germans were captured, out of an initial force of 250,000. The scale of the catastrophe was so great that even Goebbels could not camouflage the defeat as he had the numerous other setbacks on the Eastern Front. It was the first time that the Nazis publicly acknowledged a failure in the war effort, causing German civilians to begin doubting their promise of final victory.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad Battle of Stalingrad]], for the German forces in the Soviet Union. The Sixth Army was one of the largest German field armies, and the battle became was soon painted by propaganda as an intense clash of ideologies: Nazism vs communism, Hitler vs Stalin. When the army was cut off, the Nazis immediately put a lid on all media reports regarding Stalingrad. Finally, the last remnants of the Sixth Army surrendered in February 1943. Nearly 100,000 Germans were captured, out of an initial force of 250,000. The scale of the catastrophe was so great that even Goebbels could not camouflage the defeat as he had the numerous other setbacks on the Eastern Front. It was the first time that the Nazis publicly acknowledged a failure in the war effort, causing German civilians to begin doubting their promise of final victory.


* End of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' season one when the [[LaResistance Black Rebellion]] fails spectacularly in the throes of what almost looked like their Finest Hour. HistoryRepeats in season two when the Black Knights are AGAIN defeated, this time by Lelouch, amplified by the fact that it means he now [[{{TakeOverTheWorld}} rules the world]] with an iron fist. [[spoiler: Which is then followed up by him being publicly assassinated by Zero - actually Suzaku in Zero's costume - at his apparent moment of triumph, in order to cement the final step of his [[ThanatosGambit Zero Requiem]]: [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans making himself into an effigy of all the evils of the world and then dying, taking all the world's hatred with him.]]]]

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* End of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' season one when the [[LaResistance Black Rebellion]] fails spectacularly in the throes of what almost looked like their Finest Hour. HistoryRepeats in season two when the [[spoiler:the Black Knights are AGAIN defeated, defeated]], this time by Lelouch, amplified by the fact that it means he [[spoiler:he now [[{{TakeOverTheWorld}} rules the world]] with an iron fist. [[spoiler: fist]]. Which is then followed up by him [[spoiler:him being publicly assassinated by Zero - actually Suzaku in Zero's costume - at his apparent moment of triumph, in order to cement the final step of his [[ThanatosGambit Zero Requiem]]: [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans making himself into an effigy of all the evils of the world and then dying, taking all the world's hatred with him.]]]]


** The Battle of Trafalgar became this for the Combined Navies in the Napoleonic Wars - the French and Spanish lost almost seven times as men as the British, and the majority of their active ships-of-the-line. Not only would they never challenge the British at sea again, it gave the British the ability to strike at will at French and Spanish trade, contributing directly to the collapse of both empires by slowly throttling their treasuries. Indeed, when Napoleon was presented with an embroidery of an Eagle strangling a Lion, he said that it should be the other way round. During the battle itself, the explosion of the ''Achille'' was what signaled the end of the engagement and convinced the Franco-Spanish fleet to run.

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** The Battle of Trafalgar became this for the Combined Navies in the Napoleonic Wars - the French and Spanish lost almost seven times as many men as the British, and the majority of their active ships-of-the-line. Not only would they never challenge the British at sea again, it gave the British the ability to strike at will at French and Spanish trade, contributing directly to the collapse of both empires by slowly throttling their treasuries. Indeed, when Napoleon was presented with an embroidery of an Eagle strangling a Lion, he said that it should be the other way round. During the battle itself, the explosion of the ''Achille'' was what signaled the end of the engagement and convinced the Franco-Spanish fleet to run.



* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limb to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. This lead to Danish foreign policy being dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not be able to muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.

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* The Second Schleswig War of 1864 is this for Denmark, and would come to shape both the general Danish foreign policy and view on warfare for least the next century, if not still affecting to some degree today. The Danish army was poised against the Prussian Army and the Austrian Army, which were superior in both manpower and technology. The leading Danish politicians had seen the war coming for some time, and had hoped to rally either English or Swedish support to the Danish cause, but in the end, these attempts fell through and the Danes were rather hopelessly alone in their fight. Though much of the country was ignited with PatrioticFervor, the more pragmatic members of the Danish government more or less knew that that they had no real chance of actually winning the war, but had hoped to at least put up a successful enough defensive war to fight the Prussians and their Austrian allies to a standstill and eventually sue for a lenient peace deal. These hopes were eventually completely crushed when the Prussian forces won two definitive victories in the spring of 1864, first in the "Battle of Dybbøl" and then in the "Battle of Als". Denmark eventually had to limb limp to the negotiating table and accept a very harsh peace deal, ceding a sizeable chunk of the country, and was as a result thrown into a downright existential crisis as a nation. This lead led to Danish foreign policy being dictated by the view that Denmark simply could not be able to muster an army large enough to successfully defend its territory, especially should it come to a war with Germany, and that armed resistance in such a scenario was only going to amount a needless waste of Danish lives. It also informed a view that warfare was simply not a viable political tool to enforce Danish ambitions, and that diplomacy and careful appeasement of Denmark's neighbors should be the way forward. But the most tangible effect of the defeat was without a doubt the Danish government's decision to peacefully surrender to Nazi Germany when they invaded the country in 1940.

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* In ''VideoGame/GuildWars: Prophecies'' the [[FantasticNuke Searing of Ascalon]] proved to be this for humanity as a whole. The unexpected devastation of Ascalon set off a chain reaction that led to the destruction of Orr and a severe weakening of Kryta. Between the first game and ''VideoGame/GuildWars2'' humanity has only continued to lose territory with many in Ebonhawk still wishing to reclaim a land that now belongs to the Charr.



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** The Battle of the Bulge was Hitler's final offensive against the Western Front, an attempt to divide the forces of the Americans, the British and the French in the Ardennes region of Belgium, an effort that ended in failure as the combined forces of the Western Allies broke what was left of the back of the Nazi war machine.


* In the backstory of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', [[PlanetLooters the Diamond Authority]] suffered one when Pink Diamond's attempt to mine the planet Earth [[CreateYourOwnHero pushes Rose Quartz to start a rebellion]] that ends in Pink Diamond being shattered ([[spoiler:at least, that is how it seems to have happened]]), infuriating her three Diamond siblings to the point of retaliation by Corruption Wave and leaving behind a gem cluster that would destroy the planet and all life on it. (Rose Quartz and Steven counter these two threats respectively.) Blue Diamond to this day remains in an extreme state of grief from Pink Diamond's demise. [[spoiler:This is resolved however when it's revealed Pink Diamond was never shattered, since Rose Qartz and Pink Diamond where ''the same gem'']]

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* In the backstory of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', [[PlanetLooters the Diamond Authority]] suffered one when Pink Diamond's attempt to mine the planet Earth [[CreateYourOwnHero pushes Rose Quartz to start a rebellion]] that ends in Pink Diamond being shattered ([[spoiler:at least, that is how it seems to have happened]]), infuriating her three Diamond siblings to the point of retaliation by Corruption Wave and leaving behind a gem cluster that would destroy the planet and all life on it. (Rose Quartz and Steven counter these two threats respectively.) Blue Diamond to this day remains in an extreme state of grief from Pink Diamond's demise. [[spoiler:This is resolved however when it's revealed Pink Diamond was never shattered, since Rose Qartz Quartz and Pink Diamond where were ''the same gem'']]gem''.]]



* The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuctra Battle of Leuctra]] for Greece. Sparta was considered effectively invincible after centuries of reputation and their recent defeat of Athens. However, once Epaminondas applied this little thing called "proper tactics"... the conservative Laconians lost a thousand of their elite, irreplaceable Spartiates (peers of the realm and citizens, trained for war from birth, alloted a landed estate from the public treasury upon achieving the age of majority, and of which there were never more than 8,000 even at the zenith of Sparta's power) in that single battle, their reputation and hegemony over Greece both shattered forever.

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* The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuctra Battle of Leuctra]] for Greece. Sparta was considered effectively invincible after centuries of reputation and their recent defeat of Athens. However, once Epaminondas applied this little thing called "proper tactics"... the conservative Laconians lost a thousand of their elite, irreplaceable Spartiates (peers of the realm and citizens, trained for war from birth, alloted allotted a landed estate from the public treasury upon achieving the age of majority, and of which there were never more than 8,000 even at the zenith of Sparta's power) in that single battle, their reputation and hegemony over Greece both shattered forever.

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