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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion.

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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion. It's still a rather odd position for him to take, given that he's a ghoul, which are exterminated on sight in Legion-controlled territory. It's also averted in the game's endings where Caesar either didn't have his brain tumor removed leading to his post-game death or was killed by the Courier during the game, as without him to lead the Legion it quickly fragments into anarchy.

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* In ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'', the Clans like to portray their society, which is a caste system with an planned economy where everything is run by and in support of the Warrior Caste as being the epitome of efficiency. In reality it's an absurdly wasteful system that foolishly wastes resources and lives due to insisting on TheSpartanWay as the only way to do things. For more than 100 years prior to their invasion of the Inner Sphere, the Clans had been economically and technologically stagnant.


** In-contrast to the [[FascistButInefficient cripplingly inefficient]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Earth Queen]] and her [[SecretPolice Dai Li]], [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Kuvira and the Earth Empire]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' are portrayed as much more effective in winning over the people and establishing order. She and her organization single-handedly made peace between all of the Earth Kingdom territories after the anarchy brought on by the Earth Queen's death and then quickly establishes herself as its new monarch, gathering nay-sayers and citizens of non-Earth Kingdom descent into re-education camps and developed [[StupidJetpackHitler spirit-energy-based super weapons]] operated on metalbending with intentions on taking back Republic City. Because of her intelligence and skill, Kuvira and the Earth Empire are arguably the largest threat in the entire series.

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** In-contrast In contrast to the [[FascistButInefficient cripplingly inefficient]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Earth Queen]] and her [[SecretPolice Dai Li]], [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Kuvira and the Earth Empire]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' are portrayed as much more effective in winning over the people and establishing order. She and her organization single-handedly made peace between all of the Earth Kingdom territories after the anarchy brought on by the Earth Queen's death and then quickly establishes herself as its new monarch, gathering nay-sayers and citizens of non-Earth Kingdom descent into re-education camps and developed [[StupidJetpackHitler spirit-energy-based super weapons]] operated on metalbending with intentions on taking back Republic City. Because of her intelligence and skill, Kuvira and the Earth Empire are arguably the largest threat in the entire series.


In RealLife, this is [[FascistButInefficient averted]] ''at least'' as often as played straight. Authoritarianism is notoriously plagued by corruption, and even when dictatorships work relatively well, those that are based around a CultOfPersonality tend to crumble on their leader's death. It's noteworthy that in UsefulNotes/NaziGermany itself, the trains were in fact notoriously unreliable... not least because the Nazis promoted the use of automobiles and invested in the autobahns at the expense of trains and the railways even though Germany produced neither rubber nor oil and was one of the world's leading producers of steel and coal (on the grounds that [[TechnologyLevels automobiles were 'more advanced' and 'more modern' than trains]]). Consequently they actually had ''fewer'' trains in 1939 than they had in 1914, and ran out of (unused) tires in mid-July 1941 after the second week of their campaign against the USSR. And, contrary to popular belief, Mussolini did ''not'' [[http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp make the trains run on time]]. Remember also, that fascism came to power in countries which were already developed and that a good deal of its vaunted "efficiency" is blurred by the pre-takeover infrastructure continuing afterwards.

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In RealLife, this is [[FascistButInefficient averted]] ''at least'' as often as played straight. Authoritarianism is notoriously plagued by corruption, and even when dictatorships work relatively well, those that are based around a CultOfPersonality tend to crumble on their leader's death. It's noteworthy that in UsefulNotes/NaziGermany itself, the trains were in fact notoriously unreliable... not least because the Nazis promoted the use of automobiles and invested in the autobahns at the expense of trains and the railways even though Germany produced neither rubber nor oil and was one of the world's leading producers of steel and coal (on the grounds that [[TechnologyLevels automobiles were 'more advanced' and 'more modern' than trains]]). Consequently they actually had ''fewer'' trains in 1939 than they had in 1914, and ran out of (unused) tires in mid-July 1941 after the second week of their campaign against the USSR. And, contrary to popular belief, Mussolini did ''not'' [[http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp make the trains run on time]].time]], his regime actually being [[FascistButInefficient the polar opposite]]. Remember also, that fascism came to power in countries which were already developed and that a good deal of its vaunted "efficiency" is blurred by the pre-takeover infrastructure continuing afterwards.


* * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' probably gets as close to this as possible for [[AnimationAgeGhetto a kid cartoon]] with the Justice Lords, a KnightTemplar AlternateUniverse equivalent to the titular League, who revoked their ThouShaltNotKill dogma, removed free speech, united all world governments under their rule and lobotomized all their supervillains (and, reading between the lines, possibly a few rebellious superheroes as well). End result:

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* * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' probably gets as close to this as possible for [[AnimationAgeGhetto a kid cartoon]] with the Justice Lords, a KnightTemplar AlternateUniverse equivalent to the titular League, who revoked their ThouShaltNotKill dogma, removed free speech, united all world governments under their rule and lobotomized all their supervillains (and, reading between the lines, possibly a few rebellious superheroes as well). End result:

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* * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' probably gets as close to this as possible for [[AnimationAgeGhetto a kid cartoon]] with the Justice Lords, a KnightTemplar AlternateUniverse equivalent to the titular League, who revoked their ThouShaltNotKill dogma, removed free speech, united all world governments under their rule and lobotomized all their supervillains (and, reading between the lines, possibly a few rebellious superheroes as well). End result:
** Their world is bright and clean and has no crime or war, and the Justice Lords keep constant surveillance over the world to the degree that even natural disasters cause minimal casualties, which even has a result of boring the Lords out of their mind for lacking problems to solve (which is pretty much what leads to the creation of the door). Compared to the League's world, with the constant murder and terrorism, superhuman experiments, corruption, and threats such as an evil godlike alien who rules an entire planet, a godlike robot who has the power to destroy an entire planet, hundreds of dangerous villains ranging from evil geniuses to superpowered thugs (all of this continuing for decades up to ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond''), the League's Earth going through three different alien invasions and an unspecified "Near-Apocalypse", the Lords's world would seem safer to many, if not ideal.
** On the other hand, people can be arrested for such things as complaining too loudly about their meal at a restaurant, free elections are suspended as a "temporary measure", and student protesters flee from the sight of Hawkgirl and Green Lantern. Lois Lane describes free speech as "all but dead" as a result of the Lords' actions.
** The end result is the victory of the "traditional" heroes when the Justice Lords attempt to clean up the League's Earth (out of what appears to be nothing more than the goodness of their hearts) and the message that "sometimes [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans Utopia Doesn't Justify The Means]]", but the writers professed the occasional trouble at giving the League the obvious moral high ground.


* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/Injustice2'': [[TakeOverTheWorld Ethical quandaries]] and [[HeroKiller collateral damage]] aside, Superman's Regime put a stop to crime and corruption, brought an end to war all over the world and massively improved humanity's carbon footprint via advances in green energy, among other benefits. Pre-battle intros and especially the prequel comics show that with post-Regime Earth suffering a difficult political climate, the return of several problems without Superman and his allies to keep them in check, Batman's own attempts to improve the world sometimes proving ineffectual, and portions of the world's populace still supporting the Regime and hoping for their return.
** The tie-in comics for ''Injustice 2'' even lampshade this; a U.S. senator gives Batman a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, stating that [[NotSoDifferent main difference between Batman and Superman]] is that Superman's methods actually ''worked''.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/Injustice2'': [[TakeOverTheWorld Ethical quandaries]] and [[HeroKiller collateral damage]] aside, Superman's Regime put a stop to crime and corruption, brought an end to war all over the world and massively improved humanity's carbon footprint via advances in green energy, among other benefits. Pre-battle intros and especially the prequel comics show that with post-Regime Earth suffering a difficult political climate, the return of several problems without Superman and his allies to keep them in check, Batman's own attempts to improve the world sometimes proving ineffectual, and portions of the world's populace still supporting the Regime and hoping for their return.
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return. The tie-in comics for ''Injustice 2'' even lampshade this; a U.S. senator gives Batman a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, stating that [[NotSoDifferent main difference between Batman and Superman]] is that Superman's while Superman may have been a tyrant, at least his methods actually ''worked''.


* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', the capital city of Ankh-Morpork is ruled by one Lord Vetinari, Tyrant. While there are MANY rival factions who would wish to take over, no one does because under Vetinari, everything works. Perfectly. When a rival ruler pops up, Vetinari usually just locks himself in the dungeon, until everyone realizes that it was so much better under him and he gets reinstated. Vetinari's authoritarian rule is explicitly contrasted against the fledgling democracy of neighboring city-state Pseudopolis (which has recently voted not to have to pay taxes).

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* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', the capital city of Ankh-Morpork is ruled by one Lord Vetinari, Tyrant. While there are MANY rival factions who would wish to take over, no one does because under Vetinari, everything works. Perfectly. When a rival ruler pops up, Vetinari usually just locks himself in the dungeon, until everyone realizes that it was so much better under him and he gets reinstated. Vetinari's authoritarian rule is explicitly contrasted against the fledgling democracy of neighboring city-state Pseudopolis (which has recently voted not to have to pay taxes). The main reason this works is that he mostly just persuades the various factions to work together instead of trying to do everything top-down, only rarely directly invoking his authority (and it's a recurring plot point that pretty much nobody in Ankh-Morpork pays taxes either).


* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'', Collectivist ethos reduces food consumption and [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture increases slavery tolerance]]. It also unlocks authocratic goverment types, of which [[EmperorScientist Despotic Hegemony]] is probably the trope's epitome.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'', Collectivist Authoritarian ethos reduces food consumption and [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture increases slavery tolerance]]. It also unlocks authocratic autocratic goverment types, of which [[EmperorScientist Despotic Hegemony]] is probably the trope's epitome.

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** The tie-in comics for ''Injustice 2'' even lampshade this; a U.S. senator gives Batman a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, stating that [[NotSoDifferent main difference between Batman and Superman]] is that Superman's methods actually ''worked''.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/Injustice2'': [[TakeOverTheWorld Ethical quandaries]] and [[HeroKiller collateral damage]] aside, Superman's Regime put a stop to crime and corruption, brought an end to war all over the world and massively improved humanity's carbon footprint via advances in green energy, among other benefits. Pre-battle intros and especially the prequel comics show that with post-Regime Earth suffering a difficult political climate, the return of several problems without Superman and his allies to keep them in check, Batman's own attempts to improve the world sometimes proving ineffectual, and portions of the world's populace still supporting the Regime and hoping for their return.

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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': In the altered version of the ''Mobius: X Years Later'' timeline, Shadow [[TyrantTakesTheHelm marries Sally and takes over the kingdom]]. It's noted that while Shadow's regime was brutal, it still brought peace and stability to all of Mobius.
-->'''Knuckles''': Things may have been bad under King Shadow, but at least he knew how to keep the warmongers in line.

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In some cases, the general populace may actually ''want'' the dictatorship if the alternative is somehow worse. The king may tax his subjects heavily, and he doesn't take kindly to his decisions being questioned...but on the other hand he's also brutally efficient in dealing with the bandits and orcs who would otherwise rob and kill you, and you actually have some chance of living peacefully without ending up on an ogre's dinner menu. When you live in a CrapsackWorld, you often have to make a MortonsFork choice.


* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because the trains run on time.

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* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because because, among [[PoliceBrutality among other things]], the trains run on time.time to the point they don't even brake if someone's on the rails or gets run over.


* Nilfgaard from [[TheWitcher the Witcher cycle]] is a textbook example. It's an expansive empire built around the personality cult of the Emperor, where hanging is what the criminals can hope for if they cooperate, and any dissent is treason. [[PuttingOnTheReich Oh, and the military wear all black]]. It also outcompetes the Nordlings in trade, production, and currency, has a powerful army based on meritocratic principles and quite modern military theory, and generally has better race relations. The Northern Kingdoms generally are a feudal mess occasionally ruled by a skilled king, with the exception of Kovir and Poviss, which declare neutrality and distance themselves from the rest as much as they can.

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* Nilfgaard from [[TheWitcher [[Franchise/TheWitcher the Witcher cycle]] is a textbook example. It's an expansive empire built around the personality cult of the Emperor, where hanging is what the criminals can hope for if they cooperate, and any dissent is treason. [[PuttingOnTheReich Oh, and the military wear all black]]. It also outcompetes the Nordlings in trade, production, and currency, has a powerful army based on meritocratic principles and quite modern military theory, and generally has better race relations. The Northern Kingdoms generally are a feudal mess occasionally ruled by a skilled king, with the exception of Kovir and Poviss, which declare neutrality and distance themselves from the rest as much as they can.

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