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* Creator/BrandonSanderson likes to play with this trope, as part of his love of the MoralityKitchenSink. Tyranny is never preferable, but it can sometimes be a NecessaryEvil.
** In ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive,'' BigGood Dalinar is a control freak who has serious trouble remembering that he might not always know best about everything. However, he is genuinely a moral man and a skilled ruler in a world that otherwise runs on AristocratsAreEvil, meaning that frequently things are better for his taking charge. At one point he asks another character if he's a tyrant, and is told that [[BrutalHonesty yes, he is]] - but right here and now, a tyrant might be what the world needs.
** In ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'', the heroes spend the first book getting rid of EvilEmpire that rules their world, and the second book realising that they need to institute a ''new'' (albeit less evil) empire, because after a thousand years of tyranny their world isn't ready for constitutional monarchy right away.
** In ''Literature/{{Elantris}}'', Sarene is disappointed that "Lord Spirit" is apparently a tyrannical gang boss and not the idealistic community leader she had thought[[note]](he kind of is and he kind of isn't - it's complicated)[[/note]]. However, she can't entirely bring herself to think ill of him, musing that perhaps a tyrant is the only sort of leader a WretchedHive like Elantris is capable of having.


* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Vegas (killing millions of people).

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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Las Vegas (killing millions of people).


* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': In the altered version of the ''Mobius: X Years Later'' timeline, Shadow [[TyrantTakesTheHelm marries Sally and takes over the kingdom]]. It's noted that while Shadow's regime was brutal, it still brought peace and stability to all of Mobius.

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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': In the altered version of the ''Mobius: X Years Later'' timeline, Shadow [[TyrantTakesTheHelm marries Sally and takes over the kingdom]]. It's noted that while Shadow's regime was brutal, it still brought peace and stability to all of Mobius.

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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Vegas (killing millions of people).


* The small Balkan nation of Latveria may be ruled by the iron fist of SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, but it IS prosperous. There is no crime, no poverty, no disease, and some stories imply nobody even needs to ''work'' (for anyone other than Doom, of course) as Doom has robot servants do everything. [[VetinariJobSecurity Latveria also tends to go to hell anytime Doom is removed from power]], and the Fantastic Four have even helped him return to his throne- even if they helped remove him in the first place- because they agree that he is a better ruler than his replacements.

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* The small Balkan nation of Latveria may be ruled by the iron fist of SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/DoctorDoom, but it IS prosperous. There is no crime, no poverty, no disease, and some stories imply nobody even needs to ''work'' (for anyone other than Doom, of course) as Doom has robot servants do everything. [[VetinariJobSecurity Latveria also tends to go to hell anytime Doom is removed from power]], and the Fantastic Four have even helped him return to his throne- even if they helped remove him in the first place- because they agree that he is a better ruler than his replacements.


* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.

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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill however, they still run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.


* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, and any Gem who comes out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by society and usually shattered on-site. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, leading to a galactic empire that runs like a well-oiled machine and has succeeded in colonizing several galaxies. To achieve this, any Gem Gems who comes come out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by Homeworld society and usually shattered on-site.on-site or banished underground. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, and any Gem who comes out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by society and usually shattered on-site. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.


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* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because, among [[PoliceBrutality among other things]], the trains run on time to the point they don't even brake if someone's on the rails or gets run over.

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* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because, among because [[PoliceBrutality among other things]], the trains run on time to the point they don't even brake if someone's on the rails or gets run over.


* It's mentioned a couple times in ''Anime/DeathNote'' that Kira (a supernatural serial killer who kills criminals in order to try to create a better world) succeeds in dramatically reducing crime rates. An interesting example considering that it's only his method of killing that is supernatural; he relies on news reports to identify criminals, meaning that he kills mostly those that have already been apprehended by police. So it is ONLY the rampant use of the death penalty as a deterrent that achieves this effect, not any increase in efficiency of actually catching criminals. (Note that studies have shown that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent in RealLife; though, granted, what Kira does is not capital punishment but outright summary spree murder.) [[spoiler: Its noted that when he dies, the crime rate slowly starts to return to normal; still, better than being [[AllCrimesAreEqual murdered for laziness]], which is where his disciple Teru Mikami ultimately wanted to take things.]]

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* It's mentioned a couple times in ''Anime/DeathNote'' that Kira (a supernatural serial killer who kills criminals in order to try to create a better world) succeeds in dramatically reducing crime rates. An interesting example considering that it's only his method of killing that is supernatural; he relies on news reports to identify criminals, meaning that he kills mostly those that have already been apprehended by police. So it is ONLY the rampant use of the death penalty as a deterrent that achieves this effect, not any increase in efficiency of actually catching criminals. (Note that studies have shown that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent in RealLife; though, granted, what Kira does is not capital punishment but outright summary spree murder.) [[spoiler: Its It's noted that when he dies, the crime rate slowly starts to return to normal; still, better than being [[AllCrimesAreEqual murdered for laziness]], which is where his disciple Teru Mikami ultimately wanted to take things.]]


-->'''Snake''': No matter who wins, the world has no future. Until we stop Liquid and destroy the System, we'll never be free.//
'''Campbell''': Snake, what we call "peace" is an equilibrium kept in check by the war economy. Destroying the System means wiping out the information society, the end of modern civilization. Like it or not, we may have no choice but to protract the System.


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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.
-->'''Snake''': No matter who wins, the world has no future. Until we stop Liquid and destroy the System, we'll never be free.//
'''Campbell''': Snake, what we call "peace" is an equilibrium kept in check by the war economy. Destroying the System means wiping out the information society, the end of modern civilization. Like it or not, we may have no choice but to protract the System.

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* In ''Fanfic/FarceOfTheThreeKingdoms,'' Wei under the Cao regime isn't such a bad place for the commoners (at least, until Cao Rui goes on a building spree). Cao Cao [[PragmaticVillainy is careful not to make the commoners suffer too much]], most of the time, and the state he leaves behind is quite stable for two generations. On the other hand, [[DesignatedHero Shu]] devolves into a straight {{Dystopia}}, as Zhuge Liang and later Jiang Wei drain all its resources for their (staggeringly incompetent) war machine.

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