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Humble Beginnings does not actually mean what it's potholed to here.


An unassuming protagonist from HumbleBeginnings rises up to become TheChosenOne, defeats the EldritchAbomination or the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fantasy fascist regime]], and prevents TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. As the series ends, they settle into a [[HappilyEverAfter comfortable and well-deserved retirement]] as the world's greatest hero.

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An unassuming protagonist [[FromZeroToHero from HumbleBeginnings humble beginnings]] rises up to become TheChosenOne, defeats the EldritchAbomination or the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fantasy fascist regime]], and prevents TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. As the series ends, they settle into a [[HappilyEverAfter comfortable and well-deserved retirement]] as the world's greatest hero.
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** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy. Obi-Wan was at least keeping an eye on Luke. There was less of an excuse for Yoda to cower in a swamp while the Sith conquered the galaxy.

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** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy. Obi-Wan was at least keeping an eye on Luke. There was less of an excuse for Yoda to cower in a swamp while the Sith conquered the galaxy. (To be fair, the last time he fought Sidious head-on, he ultimately ''lost'' the fight and acknowledged that fact afterward.)



* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they are well into their 80s at this point--Zuko's living out his retirement in the Fire Nation (which is ultimately unaffected by the series' events) while Toph's living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they are well into their 80s at this point--Zuko's living out his retirement in the Fire Nation (which is ultimately unaffected by the series' events) while Toph's living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.respectively, with Toph in particular acknowledging that she's too old to get involved in direct fighting anymore [[spoiler:unless it involves saving her family]].
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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in they are well into their eighties. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is 80s at this point--Zuko's living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which Nation (which is ultimately unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is events) while Toph's living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.
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** When ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.

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** When ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is [[AntiMentor actively trying to avoid mentoring.]]

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* When ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.
** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy. Obi-Wan was at least keeping an eye on Luke. there was less of an excuse for Yoda to cower in a swamp while the Sith conquered the galaxy.
* ''Film/{{Tremors}}'': Variant - the original film starred Valentine [=McKee=] and Earl Basset as the heroes. In the first sequel, Earl agrees to face a second Graboid incursion in a Mexican oil field... but ''Val'', who killed the last Graboid, is specifically mentioned as having been previously contacted by the oil field's owners off-screen and refused to get involved again.

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When ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.
** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy. Obi-Wan was at least keeping an eye on Luke. there There was less of an excuse for Yoda to cower in a swamp while the Sith conquered the galaxy.
* ''Film/{{Tremors}}'': Variant - -- the original film starred Valentine [=McKee=] and Earl Basset as the heroes. In the first sequel, Earl agrees to face a second Graboid incursion in a Mexican oil field... but ''Val'', who killed the last Graboid, is specifically mentioned as having been previously contacted by the oil field's owners off-screen and refused to get involved again.
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* ''Franchise/{{Tremors}}'': Variant - the original film starred Valentine [=McKee=] and Earl Basset as the heroes. In the first sequel, Earl agrees to face a second Graboid incursion in a Mexican oil field... but ''Val'', who killed the last Graboid, is specifically mentioned as having been previously contacted by the oil field's owners off-screen and refused to get involved again.
* Played straight, then {{Subverted}} in Film/TronLegacy. Seems Kevin Flynn was happy to let his deranged creation have full run of the Grid while he sat on his ass and meditated. Quorra says he fought back, but was defeated, but we don't see any signs of it in ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising''. In fact he's more than happy to let Sam get trapped in there with him, until Sam delivers a succinct cross of ReasonYouSuckSpeech, YouKeepTellingYourselfThat, and WhatTheHellHero before going off on his own (and blundering into a disaster) and Kevin finally steps up to get involved again.

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* ''Franchise/{{Tremors}}'': ''Film/{{Tremors}}'': Variant - the original film starred Valentine [=McKee=] and Earl Basset as the heroes. In the first sequel, Earl agrees to face a second Graboid incursion in a Mexican oil field... but ''Val'', who killed the last Graboid, is specifically mentioned as having been previously contacted by the oil field's owners off-screen and refused to get involved again.
* Played straight, then {{Subverted}} {{subverted}} in Film/TronLegacy.''Film/TronLegacy''. Seems Kevin Flynn was happy to let his deranged creation have full run of the Grid while he sat on his ass and meditated. Quorra says he fought back, but was defeated, but we don't see any signs of it in ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising''. In fact he's more than happy to let Sam get trapped in there with him, until Sam delivers a succinct cross of ReasonYouSuckSpeech, YouKeepTellingYourselfThat, and WhatTheHellHero before going off on his own (and blundering into a disaster) and Kevin finally steps up to get involved again.
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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, or some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]]. It's a great way to make the previous franchise's hero UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, as some of the problems the new heroes have to face are ''probably'' to old hero's fault to start with. And just as often, old hero succumbs to MentorOccupationalHazard, willing new hero nothing more than a mop and bucket to clean up the mess they partially caused.

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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, or some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]]. It's a great way to make the previous franchise's hero UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, as some of the problems the new heroes have to face are ''probably'' to may be the [[NiceJobBreakingItHero old hero's fault fault]] to start with. And just as often, old hero succumbs to MentorOccupationalHazard, willing new hero nothing more than a mop and bucket to clean up the mess they partially caused.
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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, or some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]]. It's a great way to make the previous franchise's hero UnintentionallyUnsumpathetic, as some of the problems the new heroes have to face are ''probably'' to old hero's fault to start with. And just as often, Old Hero succumbs to MentorOccupationalHazard, willing New Hero nothing more than a mop and bucket to clean up the mess they partially caused.

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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, or some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]]. It's a great way to make the previous franchise's hero UnintentionallyUnsumpathetic, UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, as some of the problems the new heroes have to face are ''probably'' to old hero's fault to start with. And just as often, Old Hero old hero succumbs to MentorOccupationalHazard, willing New Hero new hero nothing more than a mop and bucket to clean up the mess they partially caused.



** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy.

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** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy. Obi-Wan was at least keeping an eye on Luke. there was less of an excuse for Yoda to cower in a swamp while the Sith conquered the galaxy.

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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]].

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Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, or some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]].
exist]]. It's a great way to make the previous franchise's hero UnintentionallyUnsumpathetic, as some of the problems the new heroes have to face are ''probably'' to old hero's fault to start with. And just as often, Old Hero succumbs to MentorOccupationalHazard, willing New Hero nothing more than a mop and bucket to clean up the mess they partially caused.


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** Just following in his teachers' footsteps. Obi-Wan and Yoda were happy to camp out in isolation while the Empire was on the march in the period between the prequels and the original trilogy.


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* Played straight, then {{Subverted}} in Film/TronLegacy. Seems Kevin Flynn was happy to let his deranged creation have full run of the Grid while he sat on his ass and meditated. Quorra says he fought back, but was defeated, but we don't see any signs of it in ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising''. In fact he's more than happy to let Sam get trapped in there with him, until Sam delivers a succinct cross of ReasonYouSuckSpeech, YouKeepTellingYourselfThat, and WhatTheHellHero before going off on his own (and blundering into a disaster) and Kevin finally steps up to get involved again.
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* Richard Hannay, the hero of ''Literature/TheThirtyNineSteps'', goes on to have an illustrious career as a soldier and secret agent in several sequels before retiring to the country with his wife and young son. At the beginning of ''Literature/TheCourtsOfTheMorning'', he declines a request to come out of retirement, and the rest of the supporting cast that the series has gathered go off and have the adventure without him, with the younger Archie and Janet Roylance taking the lead roles.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war.eighties. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]],]] respectively.
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But sometimes, they just don't want to. Maybe they feel like they've already done enough for the world. Maybe all they want to do is hang out [[TheHermit on their island]] or [[HermitGuru in their secluded swamp]] and pretend none of it is happening. Sometimes, the former hero is determined to stay out of it.

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But sometimes, they just don't want to. Maybe they feel like they've already done enough for the world. Maybe they feel they're too old to repeat their earlier feats. Maybe all they want to do is hang out [[TheHermit on their island]] or [[HermitGuru in their secluded swamp]] and pretend none of it is happening. Sometimes, the former hero is determined to stay out of it.
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** The [[LegendaryInTheSequel Hero of Fereldan]] is never seen after ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', despite the Wardens' heavy involvement in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' and the fact that the plot, [[AncientEvil sentient darkspawn]] planning to end the world, seems right up their alley. At the end of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Cassandra mentions that the Warden vanished. In ''Inquisition'', the Inquisitor can send them a letter asking for help, and they will reply that they are [[PutOnABus on their own, unrelated mission]]. Apparently, the developers [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially intended]] to include the Hero of Ferelden as Hawke's Warden contact, but panned it after struggling to find the right [[SuddenlyVoiced voice actors]].
** Hawke qualifies as this InUniverse, because no matter how ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' ends, things are still pretty awful in Kirkwall, and eventually they disappear because they've had enough. The reason that Varric [[spoiler:pretends not to know where Hawke is during the second and third game is because he feels that his friend has [[TheChewToy been through enough]]. He only relents to calling Hawke in when it's absolutely unavoidable.]]

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** The [[LegendaryInTheSequel Hero of Fereldan]] Ferelden]] is never seen after ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', despite the Wardens' heavy involvement in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' and the fact that the plot, [[AncientEvil sentient darkspawn]] planning to end the world, seems right up their alley. At the end of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Cassandra mentions that the Warden vanished. In ''Inquisition'', the Inquisitor can send them a letter asking for help, and they will reply that they are [[PutOnABus on their own, unrelated mission]]. Apparently, the developers [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially intended]] to include the Hero of Ferelden as Hawke's Warden contact, but panned it after struggling to find the right [[SuddenlyVoiced voice actors]].
** Hawke qualifies as this InUniverse, because no matter how ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' ends, things are still pretty awful in Kirkwall, and eventually they disappear because they've had enough. The reason that Varric [[spoiler:pretends not to know where Hawke is during the second and third game is because he feels that his friend has [[TheChewToy been through enough]]. He only relents to calling Hawke in when it's absolutely unavoidable.]]unavoidable]].
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** The [[LegendaryInTheSequel Hero of Fereldan]] is never seen after ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', despite the Wardens' heavy involvement in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' and the fact that the plot, [[AncientEvil sentient darkspawn]] planning to end the world]], seems right up their alley. At the end of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Cassandra mentions that the Warden vanished. In ''Inquisition'', the Inquisitor can send them a letter asking for help, and they will reply that they are [[PutOnABus on their own, unrelated mission]]. Apparently, the developers [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially intended]] to include the Hero of Ferelden as Hawke's Warden contact, but panned it after struggling to find the right [[SuddenlyVoiced voice actors]].

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** The [[LegendaryInTheSequel Hero of Fereldan]] is never seen after ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', despite the Wardens' heavy involvement in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' and the fact that the plot, [[AncientEvil sentient darkspawn]] planning to end the world]], world, seems right up their alley. At the end of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Cassandra mentions that the Warden vanished. In ''Inquisition'', the Inquisitor can send them a letter asking for help, and they will reply that they are [[PutOnABus on their own, unrelated mission]]. Apparently, the developers [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially intended]] to include the Hero of Ferelden as Hawke's Warden contact, but panned it after struggling to find the right [[SuddenlyVoiced voice actors]].

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Wrong. Because things [[HappyEndingOverride never seem to stay fixed]] for very long. Especially not in [[CashCowFranchise Cash Cow Franchises]]

It's been ten years, or twenty, or fifty, and now another, unanticipated evil threatens the world.
[[ChangingOfTheGuard A new hero]] stumbles into the conflict and rises up against this new threat, and they flounder because saving the world isn't easy. They could obviously benefit from the wisdom of someone OlderAndWiser who has been through this before. Surely the [[LegendaryInTheSequel now-legendary original hero]] will resurface to fight alongside their accidental successor. They fixed it last time. It only took them five books or three movies. They can do it again. Even if they want to sit out the fighting, they'll at least be involved as a BadassTeacher.

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Wrong. Because things [[HappyEndingOverride never seem to stay fixed]] for very long. Especially not in [[CashCowFranchise Cash Cow Franchises]]

Franchises]].

It's been ten years, or twenty, or fifty, and now another, unanticipated evil threatens the world.
world. [[ChangingOfTheGuard A new hero]] stumbles into the conflict and rises up against this new threat, and they flounder because saving the world isn't easy. They could obviously benefit from the wisdom of someone OlderAndWiser who has been through this before. Surely the [[LegendaryInTheSequel now-legendary original hero]] will resurface to fight alongside their accidental successor. They fixed it last time. It only took them five books or three movies. They can do it again. Even if they want to sit out the fighting, they'll at least be involved as a BadassTeacher.


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->'''Opal''': Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma?
->'''Toph''': No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that Civil War nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids.

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->'''Opal''': ->'''Opal:''' Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma?
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No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that Civil War nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids.




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* When ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.

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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue, to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he's had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.

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* When ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]'' ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheForceAwakens'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.

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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue, to their cause, he cause. He refuses outright, saying he's had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler: the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]]]] respectively.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]]]] respectively.captured]],]] respectively.
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* When ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.



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* When ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.



* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler: the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]]]] respectively.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler: the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]]]] respectively.respectively.
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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue, to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.

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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue, to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he he's had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.
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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin,the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue,to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.

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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin,the Goodwin, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue,to analogue, to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.
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->'''Opal''': Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma?
->'''Toph''': No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that Civil War nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids.
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', "The Calling"

An unassuming protagonist from HumbleBeginnings rises up to become TheChosenOne, defeats the EldritchAbomination or the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fantasy fascist regime]], and prevents TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. As the series ends, they settle into a [[HappilyEverAfter comfortable and well-deserved retirement]] as the world's greatest hero.

So that's it, right?

Wrong. Because things [[HappyEndingOverride never seem to stay fixed]] for very long. Especially not in [[CashCowFranchise Cash Cow Franchises]]

It's been ten years, or twenty, or fifty, and now another, unanticipated evil threatens the world.
[[ChangingOfTheGuard A new hero]] stumbles into the conflict and rises up against this new threat, and they flounder because saving the world isn't easy. They could obviously benefit from the wisdom of someone OlderAndWiser who has been through this before. Surely the [[LegendaryInTheSequel now-legendary original hero]] will resurface to fight alongside their accidental successor. They fixed it last time. It only took them five books or three movies. They can do it again. Even if they want to sit out the fighting, they'll at least be involved as a BadassTeacher.

But sometimes, they just don't want to. Maybe they feel like they've already done enough for the world. Maybe all they want to do is hang out [[TheHermit on their island]] or [[HermitGuru in their secluded swamp]] and pretend none of it is happening. Sometimes, the former hero is determined to stay out of it.

This trope occurs when a {{Sequel}} installment takes place while the central hero of the previous installment is still alive but features a new hero, and the former hero is absent from the main action. The former hero may appear in the sequel but be unwilling to help or they may have been PutOnABus, but they must be available. Their absence cannot be because they're [[ConvenientComa physically incapacitated]], [[PrisonEpisode imprisoned somewhere else]], or have [[SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome become evil]]. Their lack of involvement must be by their own choice.

Additionally, this trope requires the original hero to have already completed their [[TheHerosJourney Hero's Journey]] and the narrative that prominently featured them to have ended. If a character takes off halfway through defeating the evil and someone else has to take over, or if another mundane person was originally offered the mantle and turned it down before our hero accepted, it's not the trope.

Because this trope requires a hero different from the current one to have previously saved the day, media that falls into this category will always be a sequel, except for the rare case where a {{Prequel}} retroactively causes this. It is most common in HighFantasy or [[EpicMovie similar-scale]] stories and in situations where a completed series gets a SequelSeries that the creator [[FranchiseZombie may not have anticipated]] when the original series was released.

Can be caused by ChangingOfTheGuard when there's no real reason the original hero couldn't have continued to feature instead. Can result in TheyChangedItNowItSucks, and will often cause a BrokenBase between those who like the new hero and those who don't like the new hero or think the original hero ducking out of the limelight was OutOfCharacter, some going as far as [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending the sequel series doesn't exist]].

Compare PassingTheTorch, where the original hero intentionally chooses and trains a successor to fight an evil they both know will come, RogueProtagonist, where the previous hero has outright made a FaceHeelTurn, ScrewThisImOuttaHere, where a character on TheDarkSide decides it's no longer worth it, and WeAreNotGoingThroughThatAgain, when the hero has finished their adventure, only for something else to immediately go wrong. Contrast with RefusingTheCall, where a hero's origin story begins with them refusing to be a hero, only to get pulled into it anyway, and CantStayNormal, where the hero does return to save the day a second time.

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* Not sure how much of a hero we are talking, but in the second book of the ''Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand'', the heroes attempt to recruit James Goodwin,the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wizard's]] analogue,to their cause, he refuses outright, saying he had enough of magic, and never appears afterwards.

[[AC:LiveActionFilm]]
* When ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]'' begins, Luke Skywalker is missing and one of the subplots revolves around trying to find him. He finally shows up in the last scene, where it is revealed that he has been [[TheHermit living as a hermit]] on a secluded planet in a remote part of the galaxy. He spends most of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' being chased around his island by Rey, whom he is actively trying to avoid mentoring.

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* Franchise/DragonAge
** The [[LegendaryInTheSequel Hero of Fereldan]] is never seen after ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', despite the Wardens' heavy involvement in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' and the fact that the plot, [[AncientEvil sentient darkspawn]] planning to end the world]], seems right up their alley. At the end of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Cassandra mentions that the Warden vanished. In ''Inquisition'', the Inquisitor can send them a letter asking for help, and they will reply that they are [[PutOnABus on their own, unrelated mission]]. Apparently, the developers [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially intended]] to include the Hero of Ferelden as Hawke's Warden contact, but panned it after struggling to find the right [[SuddenlyVoiced voice actors]].
** Hawke qualifies as this InUniverse, because no matter how ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' ends, things are still pretty awful in Kirkwall, and eventually they disappear because they've had enough. The reason that Varric [[spoiler:pretends not to know where Hawke is during the second and third game is because he feels that his friend has [[TheChewToy been through enough]]. He only relents to calling Hawke in when it's absolutely unavoidable.]]
* In ''VideoGame/TheLongestJourney'', April Ryan saves not one but two worlds from total annihilation, but at a huge personal cost. As a result, she has become a bitter cynic by the time of ''VideoGame/DreamfallTheLongestJourney'', and refuses to assist the new protagonist, Zoe, when the bad guys put the world in peril once more ten years later.

[[AC:WebComics]]
* ''Webcomic/{{Spacetrawler}}:'' The initial series involved an alien named Nogg gathering six humans to join a fight to free the Eeb species from slavery. In the sequel series set a few years later, Nogg intervenes in a secluded star system's war, and he tries to get the old gang (the ones still alive, at least) back together for this new adventure. The heroes of the last adventure all decline, either because they're busy raising families or because they can't stand Nogg anymore. So Nogg has to gather a new crew.

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* While several members of the [[TheTeam Gaang]] are still alive when ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place, they only show up in a small handful of episodes each. The fact that they don't spend much time fighting is justified, considering they're all in their eighties, but that doesn't explain why Katara, TheHeart of the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender original series]], wasn't involved in trying to settle the dispute between the Water Tribes that took place right in her city and ended up causing a civil war. Zuko and Toph are also still around, but Zuko is living out his retirement in the Fire Nation, which is unaffected by the series' events, and Toph is living [[HermitGuru alone in the Foggy Swamp]]. They only temporarily join the main plot when [[spoiler: the [[BombThrowingAnarchist Red Lotus]] escapes and the [[ItsPersonal Beifongs are captured]]]] respectively.

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