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** JerkassFacade: Why would good guys need to mask their good heart with their jerk behavior?


** BlackAndGreyMorality: Those bitter, bloodthirsty heroes are fighting for us?

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** BlackAndGreyMorality: BlackAndGrayMorality: Those bitter, bloodthirsty heroes are fighting for us?


** BrutalHonesty: Since telling the truth is seen as a moral thing, why does it have to be cruel and unpleasant?

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** BrutalHonesty: Since telling the truth is seen as a moral good thing, why does it have to be cruel and unpleasant?



** BewareTheNiceOnes: Nice guys don't usually lose their temper.



** BewareTheNiceOnes: Nice guys don't usually resort to violence.


For the villainous / antagonistic version, see SlidingScaleOfAntagonistVileness.

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For Compare HiddenEvil and ReformedButNotTamed, the villainous / antagonistic version, see SlidingScaleOfAntagonistVileness.latter of which overlaps a lot with this. Contrast IndexWithAHeartOfGold, which is like this index, but seen from a different perspective.



** CruelToBeKind: To show kindness to others, you must be cruel.

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** CruelToBeKind: To show kindness to others, Some acts of cruelty are done for the good of the people involved. Do you must be cruel. believe it?
** KnightTemplar: They really believe they're in the right, and they may even look like it. They're also quite wrong.
** NecessarilyEvil: How could an evil deed result in a greater good? Is it really necessary?



** ToughLove: To make your loved ones better people, you gotta treat 'em harshly.

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** ToughLove: To make your loved ones better people, you gotta treat 'em harshly. MiseryBuildsCharacter and all.
** WellIntentionedExtremist: Otherwise good guys who resort to extreme methods to achieve their good goals.



* On Darkness

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* On Darkness and Beings Thereof



** BenevolentMonsters: No matter how dangerous the monsters are, most wouldn't hurt a fly.

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** BenevolentMonsters: No matter how Would you believe that these potentially dangerous the monsters are, most wouldn't hurt a fly.fly?



** FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: Aren't vampires usually considered evil?

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** FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: Aren't vampires Vampires usually prey on people's blood, so shouldn't they be usually considered evil? evil?
** SheepInWolfsClothing: A good guy stays a good guy even if he turns into a monster. Well, can he?



** GuileHero: Good guys aren't supposed to [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Scam Cthulhu]]!



** PragmaticHero: Good guys are [[WellIntentionedExtremist too extreme]] in their goals.

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** PragmaticHero: Good guys are [[WellIntentionedExtremist too extreme]] in who won't hesitate to resort to doing dirty jobs if it can help their goals.good goal.



** ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: (usually) good guys who go against the rules in order to reach a good goal.



** CrazyCatLady: She's very loving towards her pets. Why couldn't she be the same to people?



** JerkassFacade: Why would good guys need to mask their good heart with their jerk behavior?
** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: They're a jerk ''and'' a nice guy. Really.
** LoonWithAHeartOfGold: Can a loon be really a good guy?



** TheSnarkKnight: Good guys should've just tried to live to their standards instead of belittling themselves or other people over it.



** SmitingEvilFeelsGood: Being bloodthirsty is only good when you do it to the bad guys.

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** SmitingEvilFeelsGood: Being bloodthirsty is only good when you do it to the bad guys. Right?



** AntiAntichrist: This evil apocalypse weapon is our hero?

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** AntiAntichrist: This evil apocalypse weapon bringer is our hero?


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** AloofAlly: Good guys should be more open towards their teammates.
** TheFriendNobodyLikes: There must be a good reason why their "friends" don't like him.


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** PsychoSupporter: Is it okay that a mentally-ill person supports the good guys? Just imagine the things they would do...
** RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Good guys who individually seem out-there and don't look like they fit each other.
** SarcasticDevotee: A good teammate shouldn't mock and belittle their teammates.
** SourSupporter: A good teammate should've believed in the team's ability to survive and succeed.
** SuffersNewbiesPoorly: Why would the good team be harsh towards their new member?


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** VitriolicBestBuds: Why would the good guys play pranks with and insult each other?


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** HitmanWithAHeart: How could someone so kind take a job of killing?

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** FaceOfAThug: The character has an intimidating face, even though he/she is actually anything but.


** GrumpyBear: Aren't good guys supposed to have a positive outlook on the world filled with some joy and laughter?


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** GrumpyBear: Aren't good guys supposed to have a positive outlook on the world filled with some joy and laughter?


* GrumpyBear: Aren't good guys supposed to be optimistic with a positive outlook on the world filled with some joy?

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* ** GrumpyBear: Aren't good guys supposed to be optimistic with have a positive outlook on the world filled with some joy?joy and laughter?

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* GrumpyBear: Aren't good guys supposed to be optimistic with a positive outlook on the world filled with some joy?


** AscendedDemon: How could a demonic being be accepted to the circle of the holy?

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** AscendedDemon: How could a demonic being be accepted to into the circle of the holy?



*** ChivalrousPervert and HandsomeLech: These deviants are our heroes?
*** GoodBadGirl and HookerWithAHeartOfGold: These whores are our heroines?

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*** ChivalrousPervert and HandsomeLech: These deviants ''deviants'' are our heroes?
*** GoodBadGirl and HookerWithAHeartOfGold: These whores ''whores'' are our heroines?



** HeroicSeductress - Why is someone this open about their sexuality a good guy?

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** HeroicSeductress - HeroicSeductress: Why is someone this open about their sexuality a good guy?


** ByronicHero: Heroes should be humble and content not selfish and brooding.

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** ByronicHero: Heroes should be humble and content content, not selfish and brooding.



** KnightInSourArmor: Heros aren't supposed to be jaded.

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** KnightInSourArmor: Heros Heroes aren't supposed to be jaded.


Here's an index of tropes that deal with good people being what is [[HiddenDepths totally not expected of them]], or at least isn't the typical behavior you'd expect of your average good guy. This could make a lot of MoralGuardians [[HeroWithBadPublicity complain]] about his morality.

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Here's an index of tropes that deal with good people being what is [[HiddenDepths totally not expected of them]], or at least isn't not the typical behavior you'd expect of your average good guy. This could make a lot of MoralGuardians [[HeroWithBadPublicity complain]] about his morality.


** GoodIsBoring: Aren't Good is supposed to be cool?

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** GoodIsBoring: Aren't Good is guys supposed to be cool?


** LoveableRogue: Why does everyone see that sneaky felon is a hero?

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** LoveableRogue: Why does everyone see that sneaky felon is as a hero?


** FriendlyGhost Depictions of ghosts being friendly and/or jovial instead of frightening.

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** FriendlyGhost FriendlyGhost: Depictions of ghosts being friendly and/or jovial instead of frightening.


** GoodIsBoring: Because EvilIsCool.

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** GoodIsBoring: Because EvilIsCool. Aren't Good is supposed to be cool?

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