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* ''Manga/MariaNoDanzai'': [[spoiler:Between his trauma and festering hatred for Okaya's gang, [[TroubledTeen Akihiro Yuda is]] ''[[TroubledTeen not]]'' [[TroubledTeen alright in his head]]. After learning that Maria also wants to kill them and watching her work, Yuda is now obsessed with becoming her instrument, both as a way to be of use to his idol and to [[MustMakeAmends make amends]] to [[ItsAllMyFault Kiritaka]] for [[TakeMeInstead letting him die in his place]]. He even addresses her with the "-sama" suffix when she confronts him, as [[LikeAGodTome he has come to see her as a god]].]]

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* Amamiya Yuuhi of ''Manga/TheLuciferAndBiscuitHammer'' instantly pledges his complete loyalty to Princess Sami after she vows to stop the mages' plot to destroy the world so that she can do so ''herself'' with her own fists.
** Although after fighting the mage's golems, befriending his fellow beast knights, and coming to truly love both Sami and the world, he [[spoiler: decides to stop her by his own hands]].



* Amamiya Yuuhi of ''Manga/TheLuciferAndBiscuitHammer'' instantly pledges his complete loyalty to Princess Sami after she vows to stop the mages' plot to destroy the world so that she can do so ''herself'' with her own fists.
** Although after fighting the mage's golems, befriending his fellow beast knights, and coming to truly love both Sami and the world, he [[spoiler: decides to stop her by his own hands]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[Characters/AmphibiaSashaWaybright Sasha Waybright]] is both this and ToxicFriendInfluence: Sasha combines her controlling attitude toward Anne with a ruthless protectiveness. She used her school status to defend Anne from bullying and believes Anne would be better off if she joined Toad Tower.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[Characters/AmphibiaSashaWaybright Sasha Waybright]] Waybright is both this and ToxicFriendInfluence: Sasha combines her controlling attitude toward Anne with a ruthless protectiveness. She used her school status to defend Anne from bullying and believes Anne would be better off if she joined Toad Tower.
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* Axel to Roxas and Xion in ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. He seems like a pretty cool guy, and he genuinely cares about his friends, but a single playthrough of ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories Chain of Memories]]'' is more than enough to see how wickedly treacherous he can be. This becomes even more apparent towards the end of ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 358/2 Days]]''. He grows so attached to Roxas and Xion that he becomes obsessed with maintaining their friendship and keeping them safe -- however, to achieve this, he lies to them, does questionable stuff behind their backs, and if they try to leave the Organization of their own free will, he attempts to bring them back by force. Things come to a terrible head when Roxas finally gets fed up with this and [[spoiler: eserts the organization]], and Xion ends up initiating a [[spoiler:SuicideByCop that results in her being wiped from existence]]. Axel does redeem himself in the end, but [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath]] -- although, since he's [[spoiler:now BackFromTheDead in the form of his original self]], it's possible that he can finally make his actions speak for it.

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* Axel to Roxas and Xion in ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. He seems like a pretty cool guy, and he genuinely cares about his friends, but a single playthrough of ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories Chain of Memories]]'' is more than enough to see how wickedly treacherous he can be. This becomes even more apparent towards the end of ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 358/2 Days]]''. He grows so attached to Roxas and Xion that he becomes obsessed with maintaining their friendship and keeping them safe -- however, to achieve this, he lies to them, does questionable stuff behind their backs, and if they try to leave the Organization of their own free will, he attempts to bring them back by force. Things come to a terrible head when Roxas finally gets fed up with this and [[spoiler: eserts deserts the organization]], and Xion ends up initiating a [[spoiler:SuicideByCop that results in her being wiped from existence]]. Axel does redeem himself in the end, but [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath]] -- although, since he's [[spoiler:now BackFromTheDead in the form of his original self]], it's possible that he can finally make his actions speak for it.
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In real-life situations, [[UnwantedAssistance they will usually]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame be seen as a liability]] [[ContemptCrossfire to the movement they support]], and will constantly be told to StopBeingStereotypical.

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In real-life situations, they will [[UnwantedAssistance they will usually]] be seen as [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame be seen as a liability]] to the [[ContemptCrossfire to the movement they support]], and will constantly be told to StopBeingStereotypical.
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* From the novel ''Literature/{{Surrender}}'', Finnegan is this to Gabriel.

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* From ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'': ''Literature/XWingSeries'' had TheSpymaster of TheEmpire, Ysanne Isard. She was TheSociopath and fanatically loyal to TheEmperor because they were both [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans power-hungry]] {{sadist}}s, to the novel ''Literature/{{Surrender}}'', Finnegan is this to Gabriel.point she even became his lover. Palpatine, on the other hand, didn't trust her as far as he could throw her (without the Force) and feared that she'd attempt a KlingonPromotion on him [[SelfMadeOrphan like she did her father]].



* The ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTelltaleSeries'' has "John Doe", who manages to be this to Bruce. He's a violent and unsettlingly creepy lunatic who derives cruel pleasure from fighting, mayhem, and destruction, but at the same time, he's a truly loyal friend to Bruce who genuinely cares about him, even ''saving his life'' at a couple of key points in both Seasons. He manages to be simultaneously an innocent victim of mental illness as well as ''scary as hell''.

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* The ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTelltaleSeries'' has "John Doe", "[[ComicBook/TheJoker John Doe]]", who manages to be this to Bruce. He's a violent and unsettlingly creepy lunatic who derives cruel pleasure from fighting, mayhem, and destruction, but at the same time, he's a truly loyal friend to Bruce who genuinely cares about him, even ''saving his life'' at a couple of key points in both Seasons. He manages to be simultaneously [[AdaptationalNiceGuy an innocent victim of mental illness illness]] as well as ''scary as hell''.

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* Some comics have played with the idea that Harley Quinn of ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' was at least slightly cracked ''before'' she met ComicBook/TheJoker and that he simply unleashed her inner crazy, or that she'd still be just as nuts were he out of the picture. When it comes to her successor, Punchline, there's no ambiguity at all: she's nuts. Having watched the Joker during his career, she decided as a college student [[StrawNihilist his worldview]] [[ForTheEvulz fit in nicely with her own,]] and she actively sought him out in order to join him (before murdering her dean to prove her loyalty). It's perhaps for the reason that she seems to have more of Joker's respect than Harley initially did.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'':
** Depending on who is writing, Batman is this to the ComicBook/{{Justice League|OfAmerica}}, and the superhero community at large. Hard not to be when your teammates stumble across detailed plans on how to kill each and every one of them in case they go rogue and have to be put down.
*** He's this especially to ComicBook/{{Superman}}.
*** Although Batman did at one point say that he trusted the Justice League to be the ones to take him down, should he ever [[FaceHeelTurn go rogue]].
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Some comics have played with the idea that Harley Quinn of ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' was at least slightly cracked ''before'' she met ComicBook/TheJoker and that he simply unleashed her inner crazy, or that she'd still be just as nuts were he out of the picture. When it comes to her successor, Punchline, there's no ambiguity at all: she's nuts. Having watched the Joker during his career, she decided as a college student [[StrawNihilist his worldview]] [[ForTheEvulz fit in nicely with her own,]] and she actively sought him out in order to join him (before murdering her dean to prove her loyalty). It's perhaps for the reason that she seems to have more of Joker's respect than Harley initially did.did.
* ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'': ComicBook/{{Huntress}} was this to ComicBook/BlackCanary in pre-reboot series. She was extremely loyal to the Canary personally, but there was no question that she remained one of, if not the, darkest antiheroes in the DC universe. Interestingly, however, she did moderate her behavior so that Canary would be comfortable working with her; Canary did not really see Huntress' dark side until Huntress was about to throw Yasemin off a building and Canary had to talk her out of it. Canary made her final decision to leave the group directly after this incident, which seems not to have been a coincidence.



* Glory to the Chaos King in ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules''.
* Halfway through the ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' story "The Torture Garden", Chief Hershey discovers that one of the members of the strike team she sent to take out the Dark Judges on Dominion falsified his records, and is in fact an AxCrazy nutjob. Sure enough, he turns out to be a secret Death Cultist [[spoiler:who also smuggled in Judge Fear as a WillingChanneler.]]
* ''Skull Island: The Birth of Kong'': In this ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' graphic novel sequel, [[Characters/MonsterVerseSkullIslandExpedition Riccio]] is this. As his SanitySlippage progresses, it becomes more and more clear that he's this regarding his initial respect for the Iwi and his reverence for Kong as a divine being, what with the actions he takes to endanger the Iwi and his conviction Kong is the only thing in the world that matters.
* Megatron's ideology was [[FantasticRacism already]] pretty [[RobotWar extreme]] in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'', but Tarn of the Decepticon Justice Division, introduced in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', is ''worse''. Even ''Megatron'' comes to see him as a dangerous maniac. To anyone less than Megatron, he's TheDreaded.
* Depending on who is writing, Franchise/{{Batman}} is this to the Justice League, and the superhero community at large. Hard not to be when your teammates stumble across detailed plans on how to kill each and every one of them in case they go rogue and have to be put down.
** He's this especially to Franchise/{{Superman}}.
** Although Batman did at one point say that he trusted the Justice League to be the ones to take him down, should he ever [[FaceHeelTurn go rogue]].
* One of the interpretations of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's sidekick ComicBook/{{Bucky|Barnes}} was as the guy who did the backstabbing Cap was too moral to do.

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* Glory to the Chaos King in ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules''.
* Halfway through the ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' story "The Torture Garden", Chief Hershey discovers that one of the members of the strike team she sent to take out the Dark Judges on Dominion falsified his records, and is in fact an AxCrazy nutjob. Sure enough, he turns out to be a secret Death Cultist [[spoiler:who also smuggled in Judge Fear as a WillingChanneler.]]
* ''Skull Island: The Birth of Kong'': In this ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' graphic novel sequel, [[Characters/MonsterVerseSkullIslandExpedition Riccio]] is this. As his SanitySlippage progresses, it becomes more and more clear that he's this regarding his initial respect for the Iwi and his reverence for Kong as a divine being, what with the actions he takes to endanger the Iwi and his conviction Kong is the only thing in the world that matters.
* Megatron's ideology was [[FantasticRacism already]] pretty [[RobotWar extreme]] in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'', but Tarn of the Decepticon Justice Division, introduced in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', is ''worse''. Even ''Megatron'' comes to see him as a dangerous maniac. To anyone less than Megatron, he's TheDreaded.
* Depending on who is writing, Franchise/{{Batman}} is this to the Justice League, and the superhero community at large. Hard not to be when your teammates stumble across detailed plans on how to kill each and every one of them in case they go rogue and have to be put down.
** He's this especially to Franchise/{{Superman}}.
** Although Batman did at one point say that he trusted the Justice League to be the ones to take him down, should he ever [[FaceHeelTurn go rogue]].
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''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'': One of the interpretations of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's Captain America's sidekick ComicBook/{{Bucky|Barnes}} was as the guy who did the backstabbing Cap was too moral to do.



* ComicBook/{{Huntress}} was this to ComicBook/BlackCanary in pre-reboot ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey''. She was extremely loyal to the Canary personally, but there was no question that she remained one of, if not the, darkest antiheroes in the DC universe. Interestingly, however, she did moderate her behavior so that Canary would be comfortable working with her; Canary did not really see Huntress' dark side until Huntress was about to throw Yasemin off a building and Canary had to talk her out of it. Canary made her final decision to leave the group directly after this incident, which seems not to have been a coincidence.
* DC Comics' controversial ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'' storyline turned a small group of lesser Franchise/JusticeLeague members into this for the League at large. While the Big Three heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman went about living and acting on their ideals, lesser members would do necessary "clean-up" jobs to preserve the League's secrets, primarily by having Zatanna wipe minds and reprogram someone's personality. Used as a {{Retcon}} to explain away events where the villains learned (or should have learned) the identities of various heroes, but never acted on them.

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* ComicBook/{{Huntress}} was this to ComicBook/BlackCanary in pre-reboot ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey''. She was extremely loyal to the Canary personally, but there was no question that she remained one of, if not the, darkest antiheroes in the DC universe. Interestingly, however, she did moderate her behavior so that Canary would be comfortable working with her; Canary did not really see Huntress' dark side until Huntress was about to throw Yasemin off a building and Canary had to talk her out of it. Canary made her final decision to leave the group directly after this incident, which seems not to have been a coincidence.
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''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'': DC Comics' controversial ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'' storyline turned a small group of lesser Franchise/JusticeLeague members into this for the League at large. While the Big Three heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman went about living and acting on their ideals, lesser members would do necessary "clean-up" jobs to preserve the League's secrets, primarily by having Zatanna wipe minds and reprogram someone's personality. Used as a {{Retcon}} to explain away events where the villains learned (or should have learned) the identities of various heroes, but never acted on them.



* ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules'': Glory to the Chaos King.



* In ''ComicBook/{{Nexus}}'', Kreed was a super-strong alien called a Quatro who had lived all his life as a member of an assassin's guild. Killing was the only thing he knew how to do, but he had come to find it pointless. When he learned of Nexus, he came to revere him as a man who had learned how to use those skills in a worthwhile cause, and he followed Nexus unquestioningly like a loyal puppy, even at times when Nexus himself was showing terrible judgment, and Kreed would threaten terrible violence to anyone who he perceived as a threat to his hero. When Nexus finally decided he trusted Kreed enough to send him on a mission -- to hunt down and execute a list of murderers for the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens Merk,]] a task Nexus himself had always despised -- Kreed and his fellow Quatro Sinclair went mad with bloodlust, going on a wild killing spree that Nexus was only able to halt after countless innocent people had been already killed.
* DC Hero team, [[ComicBook/BatmanAndTheOutsiders The Outsiders]]. The Outsiders have had three different incarnations over the years. They were founded by Batman, whose ties to the League had become strained. He has stated his intent to use the team as a black ops version of the Justice League, able to take the proverbial "fall" in public opinion where the League cannot.
* In one Creator/JMichaelStraczynski-penned ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' issue, Spidey defeats the villain-of-the-month using a modified version of a plan he had to take down the Hulk, and mentions that most of the Marvel Universe's heroes have plans for taking each other down, although it isn't something they like to talk about.

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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Halfway through the story "The Torture Garden", Chief Hershey discovers that one of the members of the strike team she sent to take out the Dark Judges on Dominion falsified his records, and is in fact an AxCrazy nutjob. Sure enough, he turns out to be a secret Death Cultist [[spoiler:who also smuggled in Judge Fear as a WillingChanneler.]]
* ''Franchise/MonsterVerse'':
In ''ComicBook/{{Nexus}}'', the ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' graphic novel sequel ''Skull Island: The Birth of Kong'', [[Characters/MonsterVerseSkullIslandExpedition Riccio]] is this. As his SanitySlippage progresses, it becomes more and more clear that he's this regarding his initial respect for the Iwi and his reverence for Kong as a divine being, what with the actions he takes to endanger the Iwi and his conviction Kong is the only thing in the world that matters.
* ''ComicBook/{{Nexus}}'':
Kreed was a super-strong alien called a Quatro who had lived all his life as a member of an assassin's guild. Killing was the only thing he knew how to do, but he had come to find it pointless. When he learned of Nexus, he came to revere him as a man who had learned how to use those skills in a worthwhile cause, and he followed Nexus unquestioningly like a loyal puppy, even at times when Nexus himself was showing terrible judgment, and Kreed would threaten terrible violence to anyone who he perceived as a threat to his hero. When Nexus finally decided he trusted Kreed enough to send him on a mission -- to hunt down and execute a list of murderers for the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens Merk,]] a task Nexus himself had always despised -- Kreed and his fellow Quatro Sinclair went mad with bloodlust, going on a wild killing spree that Nexus was only able to halt after countless innocent people had been already killed.
* DC Hero team, [[ComicBook/BatmanAndTheOutsiders The Outsiders]]. ''ComicBook/{{The Outsiders|DCComics}}'': The Outsiders have had three different incarnations over the years. They were founded by Batman, whose ties to the League had become strained. He has stated his intent to use the team as a black ops version of the Justice League, able to take the proverbial "fall" in public opinion where the League cannot.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': In one Creator/JMichaelStraczynski-penned ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' issue, issue of ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManJMichaelStraczynski'', Spidey defeats the villain-of-the-month using a modified version of a plan he had to take down the Hulk, and mentions that most of the Marvel Universe's heroes have plans for taking each other down, although it isn't something they like to talk about.about.
* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Megatron's ideology was [[FantasticRacism already]] pretty [[RobotWar extreme]], but Tarn of the Decepticon Justice Division, introduced in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', is ''worse''. Even ''Megatron'' comes to see him as a dangerous maniac. To anyone less than Megatron, he's TheDreaded.
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*** It's possible for the Warden to play this role to Leliana at the end of her quest, where she is unnerved by a comment about [[NotSoDifferentRemark she and her ruthless former mentor being the same]]. Faced with a crisis of conscience, she asks the Warden for their opinion. At this point, it is possible to either assure her that she's a good person or tell her that she's denying her true self. Choosing the latter will cause Leliana to become more individualistic and open to supporting selfish or morally questionable actions (as well as becoming [[EvilIsSexy more openly promiscuous and non-monogamous]].)

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*** It's possible for the Warden to play this role to Leliana at the end of her quest, where she is unnerved by a comment about [[NotSoDifferentRemark she and her ruthless former mentor being the same]]. Faced with a crisis of conscience, she asks the Warden for their opinion. At this point, it is possible to either assure her that she's a good person or tell her that she's denying her true self. Choosing the latter will cause Leliana to become more individualistic and open to supporting selfish or morally questionable actions (as well as becoming [[EvilIsSexy more openly promiscuous and non-monogamous]].non-monogamous.)
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* In ''VideoGame/ExoptableMoney'', you can purchase a cat for you to send out, which will come back every once in a while with large amounts of money in tow. [[spoiler:After a few goes of this, you send your cat out and it starts taking longer than usual. A ''lot'' longer.]] [[spoiler:You get a letter from Madame Sinclair, about a cat she saw recently, and she mentions that cats have [[MonsterOrganTrafficking other uses]] beyond finding money.]] [[spoiler:She then sends you [[JumpScare a letter]] with [[NightmareFace your cat's gory head]] in it, telling you about the [[SarcasmMode wonders]] of selling cat fur. "You're welcome" indeed.]]

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** Rare protagonist example: Harry Dresden to [[ThePaladin Michael Carpenter]], his good friend, who is a (literal) KnightInShiningArmor and has an uncompromisable code. There are times when Harry will lie, strike, or kill someone Michael cannot harm without breaking his moral code. The first example of this happening is in ''Death Masks'', he asks Michael to leave the room while he [[ColdBloodedTorture breaks the legs]] of Quintus Cassius.

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** Rare protagonist example: Harry Dresden to [[ThePaladin Michael Carpenter]], his good friend, who is a (literal) KnightInShiningArmor and has an uncompromisable code. There are times when Harry will lie, strike, or kill someone Michael cannot harm without breaking his moral code. The first example of this happening is in ''Death Masks'', he asks Michael to leave the room while he [[ColdBloodedTorture breaks the legs]] of Quintus Cassius. He later talks Michael out of beating to death the man who kidnapped and threatened the life of his daughter, simply by saying that if it has to be done, ''Harry'' will do it.
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* DC Comics' controversial ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' storyline turned a small group of lesser Franchise/JusticeLeague members into this for the League at large. While the Big Three heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman went about living and acting on their ideals, lesser members would do necessary "clean-up" jobs to preserve the League's secrets, primarily by having Zatanna wipe minds and reprogram someone's personality. Used as a {{Retcon}} to explain away events where the villains learned (or should have learned) the identities of various heroes, but never acted on them.

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* DC Comics' controversial ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'' storyline turned a small group of lesser Franchise/JusticeLeague members into this for the League at large. While the Big Three heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman went about living and acting on their ideals, lesser members would do necessary "clean-up" jobs to preserve the League's secrets, primarily by having Zatanna wipe minds and reprogram someone's personality. Used as a {{Retcon}} to explain away events where the villains learned (or should have learned) the identities of various heroes, but never acted on them.

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